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PEDOMAN WAWANCARA
Strategi Akomodasi Komunikasi Intercultural Romantic Relationship
(Studi Kasus: Mahasiswa Indonesia dan Mahasiswa Asing)
Awal: Perkenalan nama, usia, asal dari mana, dan sudah berapa lama menjalin hubungan.
1. Kapan kalian bertemu dan apa yang membuat kalian tertarik untuk berpacaran?
(When did you meet your girlfrend/ boyfriend and what makes you interested in
her/him?)
2. Selama menjalin hubungan satu sama lain, kebiasaan apa yang berbeda dalam
sehari-hari kalian? (What different custom you experience from each other?)
3. Apa yang menarik dari menjalin hubungan dengan seseorang yang berasal dari
negara yang berbeda? (What interesting about having a romantic relationship with
someone from different country?
4. Apakah ada kebiasaan atau budaya pasangan yang aneh menurut kamu aneh?
(Are there any strange habits or culture that you think is strange from your
partner?)
5. Apa pernah berkonflik selama berpacaran? Dan karena apa? (Have you ever
been in a conflict with your girlfriend/ boyfriend?)
6. Apa yang kamu lakukan ketika terjadi konflik dengan pasangan? (What do you
do when you are having an argument with your partner?)
7. Apa hal yang menurut kamu berbeda saat berpacaran dengan orang asing dan
orang yang berasal dari budaya yang sama? (Based on your opinion, what is the
difference between dating foreigner and dating a person that from the same
culture/ country as yours?)
8. Apakah kalian pernah kesulitan untuk berkomunikasi? (Have you ever had
difficulty communicating?)
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9. Apakah kamu pernah mengalami culture shock dengan pacarmu? Have you
ever experience culture shock from your girlfriend?)
10. Apa yang membuat kamu yakin untuk berpacaran dengan orang asing? (What
make you sure to date people from different culture than yours?)
11. Sebelum menjalani hubungan, kalian sebelumnya sudah kenal terlebih dahulu,
apakah ada persepsi yang muncul di benak kalian mengenai pasangan kalian yang
berasal dari negara dan budaya yang berbeda dengan kalian? (Before dating, you
already know your current boyfriend/ girlfriend, do you have any thought about
them coming from different country, like stereotype about them?)
12. Setelah menjalankan hubungan, stereotip seperti apa yang ternyata berbeda
dari pemikiran kalian? (After dating, what stereotype is wrong about your
girlfriend/ boyfriend?)
13. Apakah ada budaya yang berbeda antara kalian dan apakah ada budaya yang
ternyata mirip? (Is there a different culture and similar culture you experience?)
14. Apa ekspektasi kalian dalam menjalin hubungan dengan orang yang berbeda
kebangsaan? (What’s your expectation dating people from a different culture and
country?)
15. Pernah tidak salah satu dari kalian mengalah terhadap suatu masalah atau
kegiatan?
16. Bagaimana cara kalian menyesuaikan diri dengan perbedaan masing-masing?
Jelaskan.
17. Bagaimana cara kalian memaknai budaya yang berbeda, misalnya sifat
individualisme & kebersamaan, dan lain-lainnya?
18. Apakah ada hal yang kalian masing-masing sesuaikan dengan pasangan
kalian? Komunikasi, pakaian, dan lain-lain.
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19. Apakah ada dari value yang berbeda yang kalian miliki? Misalnya dari segi
agama atau value lainnya?
20. Bagaimana pola pikir kalian memengaruhi cara kalian berkomunikasi?
Apakah ada dari cara pola pikir kalian yang berbeda?
21. Apakah ada gaya hidup kalian yang berbeda? Dan apakah hal tersebut
memengaruhi kalian dalam menjalin hubungan?
22. Kalian bisanya berkomunikasi dengan menggunakan Bahasa apa?
23. Apakah salah satu dari kalian tertarik mempelajari Bahasa pasangan?
24. Sebelumnya kalian pernah berpacaran dengan orang yang berasal dari budaya
yang sama? Apakah ada gaya pacaran yang berbeda sekarang kalian berpacaran
dengan orang yang berasal dari budaya berbeda?
25. Apakah ada perihal stereotip yang mempengaruhi hubungan kalian?
26. Sebelum kalian saling berpacaran, menjalin hubungan seperti sekarang,
adakah pandangan negatif tentang satu sama lain dari segi stereotip atau budaya
pasangan?
27. Apakah kalian merasa satu sama lain berusaha mengakomodasi komunikasi
yang terjadi? Misalnya apakah salah satu dari kalian memasukkan kosakata
Bahasa ibu masing-masing percakapan dan lainnya?
28. Apa yang kalian lakukan ketika terjadi perbedaan pendapat?
29. Bagaimana cara komunikasi kalian dalam level non verbal? Apakah ada
gestur, intonasi, sentuhan yang kalian lakukan saat berkomunikasi?
30. Adakah Gerakan tubuh yang kalian sadari dar pasangan kalian masing-
masing? Yang menurut kalian unik atau menarik?
31. Bagaimana cara kalian menyelesaikan konflik yang terjadi dalam hubungan
kalian?
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32. Bolehkan ceritakan saat pertama kali kalian bertemu dan belum memasuki
tahapan pacaran?
33. Apakah selama masa pdkt (pendekatan), ada tidak hal-hal yang berbeda yang
kalian rasakan?
34. Setelah pacaran, apakah ada hal yang kalian rasa berubah dari hubungan
kalian?
35. Apa pandangan kalian terhadap hubungan kalian di masa depan?
36. Saat kalian berselisih atau berkonflik, apa yang kalian lakukan untuk
memperbaiki masalah tersebut?
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TRANSKRIP WAWANCARA 1
Tanggal: Rabu, 21 April 2021 (20:03 – 22:13)
Tempat: ZOOM
Partisipan: SW dan SV
Moderator: Indakhila Vidya Putri - Transkrip sebagai IVP
Peserta:
- SW Mahasiswa DKV Universitas Shu Te yang berlokasi di Kaohsiung,
Taiwan. Sudah menjalani hubungan dengan SV selama 1 bulan
- SV Mahasiswa International Tourism and Hospitality di universitas I-
Shou yang berada di Kaohsiung, taiwan. Sudah menjalin hubungan dengan
SW selama 8 bulan.
Pertanyaan Jawaban
IVP: Okay, Good afternoon
everyone. Maybe before I start
interviewing both of you. I will
introduce myself first. My name is
Indakhila, you can call me Inda.
SW call me Inda.
Maybe before we started, maybe
both of you can introduce yourself
first. SW can introduce yourself in
Indonesia and SV can introduce in
English. You can strart first SW
SW: Just call her Inda
SV: Nice to meet you Inda
IVP: Nice to met you too.
SW: No, no. SV start first
IVP: Ok
SV: Hi, my name is SV. I Come From Russia
studying in Taiwan. I'm 20 almost 21 years old.
And… Yeah, ready to answer your questions. What
else?. If anything else, I can add some more
information about myself.
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- Introduction
IVP: Okay, more information is better.
SV: What else?
IVP: Maybe your major, hobby, etc
SV: Well, my major is international tourism and
Hospitality in I-Shou University and well as for
hobbies, I like to do plenty of stuff Sports, hang out
with friends and of oh yeah I'm quite, quite
desperate person when it comes to the activities I'm
basically the ready.
IVP: Alright, thank you so much! Next SW
SW: Perkenalkan, nama saya SW. Kebetulan
sekarang saya tinggal Kaoshiong, bagian selatan
Taiwan. Saya jurusan Desain Komunikasi Visual di
Shu Te University dan sekarang sama kayak Inda,
ada di tahun terakhir universitas. Hahaha, grogi.
IVP: it’s okay
SW: Untuk Hobi, kalua gak nonton Netflix, baca
novel. Kalau enggak ya itu, ngumpul sama temen.
IVP: Ok, thank you.
IVP: Maybe we can start from the
first question. The first question is.
Okay, for the first question maybe
SV: Well, we meet at a party, a friends gathering.
There was only SW and DS (The host) and DS
girlfriend. So of course they introduce me to SW.
I'mSV, blah blah blah and I thought it would be nice
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SV can answer first. The question
is, How did you meet SW?
to get to know her better and yep. Throughout the
night, we had an opportunity to talk with each other
about different topics and different stuff and it was
so engaging and so interesting. So that we spent
maybe around like 80% of the party just talking but
like basically about our self . So, I was talking about
my life in Taiwan. She was talking about how she
was doing in Taiwan so far. Yep, it was just a nice
time talking to each other.
IVP: Okay, Thank you. Next SW, how was it from
your point of view? Kalau dari pov lu gimana?
SW: Okay, because it's a house party. So of course
we drank and I just, what is it? Like, I just got after
I got out from a relationship, from a long-term
relationship. So what I was planning to do in the
parties just to drink and then meet friends, you
know, like meeting new people and by the time we
really talked only like both of us. I remembered I
was already pretty tipsy almost drunk. Like I
remember Snippets of it but not the full of it. Yeah.
So that’s it. But, but, I remember like, it's so fun.
Like hearing hearing SV telling his stories, like his
life stories and how he decided to come to Taiwan.
IVP: Okay, maybe because we are talking about
your life ini Taiwan, maybe I will ask why did you
guys decide to study in Taiwan for your university?
SW can answer first.
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SW: The reason why I came to Taiwan is because
like my parents are encouraging me to learn
Chinese as you know in that. Like you remembered,
right? Like my options are either going to National
University in Indonesia or going to Taiwan because
like I don't want to go to the private university in
Indonesia because like most of our classmates are
going to that University and yeah. And then after
I… What is it? I see like how much how much is
the total cost of living in Taiwan and also the tuition
fee, like it's not not so much different from
Indonesia, so I decided to come here to also learn
Chinese.
IVP: Okay, SV the same question?
SV: Well, for me, it was like all of a sudden
decision. I was just planning to, you know, go to
studying Russian University because I could study
there for free. since I've done my graduation tests
like quite well, but all of a sudden, my friend who
was studying here in Taiwan she's like a friend of a
family. And she ask me. “So, what's your plans after
school?” And like, “I don't know. Probably just go
to the Russian University have fun.” And she “how
about studying abroad?” “What, where?” she likes
“Taiwan.” Like, “where the hell is that?” and she
say “Well, yeah. It's a nice Island”. And, by the time
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she told me she was doing… She was doing maybe
like, either sophomore or Junior year.
She was like, “yeah, why don't you come here after
school? Like all you need is just basically English
that's it and it's always better to study abroad rather
than in your own country” and I like “yeah, why
not” so well for about a year. I was studying
English because like, I haven't, I couldn't speak
English at all when she told me about it, and then
yeah, after one year, I applied. I-Shou university.
Yeah, they accepted me and I was like well it seems
like I'm going to Taiwan since that time.
IVP: I’m kinda curious, where do you live in Rusia.
Like where is you city, the name of it.
SV: Well I live in a city called Нижний Новгород
(Nizhny Novgorod).
IVP: Ok… hahaha
SV: It’s actually not that far from Moscow.
Something like, 400… 460 Km. Yeah so, it’s pretty
much in central Rusia.
IVP: Okay, next question. Do you
notice any difference from
nonverbal communication? For
example from the way you touch,
gesture, intonation, and
communication style, etc? Maybe
SW can answer first.
SW: hmmm, maybe because I have been studying
in Taiwan for several years before I meet him, I
kinda don’t feel any difference from him. Or maybe
I’m simply use to it. Maybe what I feel different
from people back in Indonesia is touch. I never had
romantic relationship with people from the same
background or culture from me (dari Indonesia).
But, looking at my friend, I notice most of them is
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not very touchy. When I first talking with SV, he
hold my hand all the time and that was our first
meeting. After dating, we have skinship like
holding hand, hug, resting my head, and other stuff.
I notice that a lot of Indonesian is kinda shy, I
mean… they do some skinship like holding hand
and that’s it mostly. But, not only me, like most of
my friend here does a lot of skinship with their
boyfriend/girlfriend. Maybe because SV is my
second relationship, I have some experience that
makes me feel use to it. Well, at first I kinda feel
overwhelm by the amouth of touching and our
relationship progress quite fast and it just really a
new sensation for me. My ex doesn’t skinship this
much. So, this feel new and at first I kinda feel…
scared? Weird? Not use to it. It’s quite frustrating
because I like him. But, yeah I just not really use to
it.
IVP: How about other stuff, like intonation, gesture,
etc.
SW: Hmmm, I feel like both of us have a very
similar gesture, communication style, and
intonation. What I know is SV is very playful. But,
I don’t think that have anything to do with him
growing up in Rusia. But, I do feel that he is more
likely not to beating around the bush. I mean, Asian
like Indonesia, sometimes feel bad talking to
someone about sensitive subject. But, SV is more…
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more… to the point when talking. And I apprecieate
it. So yeah I think that’s it.
IVP: Please explain more about “to the point when
talking”.
SW: I mean, as Asian we sometimes like to hide
talking about some subject and feel not confortable
talking about it. For example when doing some
mistake. We most likely to hide it rather than talk
about it. But, yeah SV and most of my friends that
come from Western country is more open. Not
hiding stuff.
IVP: Okay, next SV. Same question.
SV: What is the question again?
IVP: Any difference from nonverbal
communication? For example from the way you
touch, gesture, intonation, and communication style,
etc?
SV: Well I don’t really notice it from SW. I think
we do what many couple does. We hold hands,
hugging, and many other stuff. It’s normal for me
and I don’t think that is weird or unusual couple
behavour. One thing that SW tell me about
Indonesian is that sexual stuff is usually for married
couple only, where in Rusia, it’s something that
happen both in marriage couple and dating. Overall
I do think, that is something usual happen in Rusia.
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IVP: How about other stuff like eye contact,
intonation, gesture, any stuff that you feel maybe
different or odd?
SV: Hmm, not really. Maybe… uhh, like she talk
more slowly than me. And I notice that she don’t
talk openly abou certain subject. Like she usually
talk abou someone or something that makes her
mad when it just both of us and when we do meet
with that person, she smile and act casual. I guess
she just doesn’t like drama.
IVP: In your relationship, does skinship occur
frequently?
SV: yeah sure. We like did it many time I think.
Like sometimes I kiss her and I hug her a lot.
IVP: apakah skinship tersebut kayak mengagetkan
buat lu SW?
SW: Awalnya iya, soalnya kayak smooth banget
dia. Kayak udah biasa. Kalau gw kan gak ya. Kayak
di Indonesia itu kan budayanya gak terlalu terbuka
begitu soal pacaran. Pas pertama kali ciuman
(dengan mantan pacar) rasanya kayak nervous
banget sampai gak bisa gerak. Sekarang sih sama
SV udah biasa sih. Kayak lama-lama terbiasa.
Hahahaha.
IVP: Kayak, apa yang lu lakukan buat
menyesuaikan diri dengan skinship kayak gitu?
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SW: Mungkin awalnya rasanya kaget aja ya, tapi
lama-lama kalau misalnya dia pegang tangan gw,
gw bales genggam tangannya. Terus lama-lama gw
juga yang ajak pelukan kayak buka tangan gw, terus
kayak… hahahahah (tertawa, tersipu) begitu deh…
IVP: Okay, next question. What
different custom you experience
from each other? Maybe because
you come from different culture,
Indonesia and Russia. It’s kinda
different. Maybe we can start from
SV first.
SV: I wouldn’t say there are much differences is
just like, yes, some cultural things that are more
specific for the certain for the areas where we've
come from. Like, for example, she can eat spicy
food. No, SHE LIKE spicy food. She loves to eat
spicy food. Like she put chili on everything. I’m
like Jesus Christ. Why, why would you put chili in
basically everything you consume? She's like “yeah
it's nice. I like it”. Yeah for me it's just like still a
mystery because I I myself I cannot get like spices.
It's like I cannot I don't like it, just burns my mouth.
I don't see why people doing it to themselves, you
know, and then and then also rice basically, Asian
food. Asian food for people who've come from
with, you know, Europe and like that areas, like
Asian food is just something else. You know, it's
just something we've never eaten before and yeah.
SW knows how I'm struggling every time I need to
eat because I just don't like food. This is quite.
frustating. But, as for other things like, yeah, maybe
is this about the knowledge and background we
have because I know more about like you know,
European stuff and like basically everything that
that is about like our society and stuff, she knows
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more about Asian because, well, I'm not very, I
wouldn't say I know a lot about Asian culture,
history and stuff. Maybe it's just some Basics and so
is she she does she knows more about Asia like it's
Customs traditions and about some American
maybe European stuff is is that that would be, you
know, a common thing for me would be just like
well I mean and then yeah in the just basic in life,
we exchange our knowledge and Yeah, feeling each
other spaces
IVP: How about you SW?
SW: The only thing that I can. That's very different
for us is like food. This is the only main thing I
guess because someone can't really cannot it rice.
Here we go to Hot Pot, like usually on weekends
like as together with our friends here, who obeyed
hot bun. And usually as like Asians, and then there
are some like, Health Asia Grunts there. They will
be, they will give the rice but server then probably
just eat the meat with the and then cook it in the hot
pot and then he will dump a lot of my mayonnaise
and ketchup and that's basically his meal. Yeah, so
every time we go out together, we can only eat
Western Foods. I'm compromising. I’m
accommodate him. Other than that, maybe there are
some small stuff, but it’s not that big of a deal.
Some people say that I’m more polite than him. But
yeah, growing up we just teach to respect elder,
mind our manner, and stuff like that. But, I also
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think in Taiwan it’s more relax. So by the time I
meet him, I’m kinda already use to some western
stuff. Because, some of my friend is from other
country like Europe.
IVP: Any specific thing that maybe you think it’s
weird or “wow that’s so different from Russia?”
SV: Maybe I think she tell me about Indonesia
medical alternative. Like making a red wound at the
back to let the “wind” outh of the body. I think it’s
very bixare. Other than that, I think yeah, mostly
it’s food that very very unusual for me.
IVP: How about belief, like is that
any difference to that?
SW: Maybe like, because I was, I was raised being
religious, so I am comparing the SV. I am more
religious than him anyway, right? Like growing up I
learn about being a Buddhist, went to Vihara every
week, and overall practice it. Because like, yeah, I
don't know, you better explain this. Like I think,
you know, it better look like this Orthodox and I
don't know.
SV: Yeah, so yeah, it's from what I know from. So I
heard from SW, like Indonesia is very religious
Place. Like most of the people their religious and
follow its like well yeah everyone can say I'm like a
Buddhism Muslim Christian and but people they're
actually follow the religion, telling them to do like
the going to church like they may be to some
praying. In Russia, like, yeah, technically, we were
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Orthodox Christians, but, you know, I haven't, I
haven't met a single religious person in my life
when I was back there (Russia). I mean, yeah, some
people would say like, yeah, I'm believe in god, but
even those who just say they believe in God, it's a
30% - 20%, the others. They just, we don't care, we
don't care if this comes from. Yeah, it just comes in,
there is an explanation to that because in Soviet
Union which A big-ass country before Russian and
a bunch of other countries. So Soviet Union, the
Communists. They said like there is no God and in
the early Soviet Union they were even you know
blowing up all the churches and then they were like
religion was forbidden and of course it left a mark
this society. And yeah, even though later they were
kind of ease up religion stuff but still still
nowadays, you can like see the People are not
religious at all and so was me like yeah, how I was
also like always. I was always considering myself
like yeah, I'm an Orthodox Christian but I haven't
done a single religious thing in my life. I don't
know, any prayers? I only go to churches because
I'm curious about how they look inside and they do
look inside very beautifully, but yeah. I never went
to No. I never pray whatsoever. So yeah. And then
and my parents are like this as well. I don't go to
church. So that's why it's probably affected me that
way. Yeah. But when I come to Taiwan met SW
and then she tells me all about like, how people are
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religious and for me just Well, okay, I guess. Yes,
they know better.
IVP: Do you have any problem with your different
belief?
SW: Well I don’t necessary think that non religious
person is bad and in modern society, I think it’s
becoming less and less relevant. And I think what
matter is the action not what you belief in. And SV
is a nice person so I don’t really see any problem
with it. To be honest, when we just become official,
I do feel kinda… conflicted? I mean in Indonesia
religion is important and I’m kinda conflicted about
my family and what other stuff. But, I figure rather
than thinking about it, I should give it a try.
IVP: How about you SV?
SV: Yeah, I just think it’s odd because it’s different
from Russia. But, I do believe that people can
believe what they want so yeah… why not?
IVP: What about your parents and family? What
they think about it?
SW: Well my mom is a religious person. But, I
don’t think it’s gonna be a problem… But who
knows?
SV: Well, my parents know SW and they are very
okay with everything.
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IVP: Okay, next question. What is
interesting about having a romantic
relationship with someone from a
different country? Maybe we start
from Sawani first.
SW: I guess like I think it's more interesting in a
way because you learn a lot of like their culture.
They're almost like their culture and I feel like
dating People living people that are not from your
own country. I feel like they're more open-minded
in a way because both of you are not from the same
country. So you are trying… when someone when
the other one is trying to tell you, like, their life
experience or blab la bla, I think they will be more
understanding and will be more open to it than
people with then dealing with people from the same
country. I think like that.
SV: Well, first of all, like she said, it's just feels
different, you know. I've pretty much like… she had
like, relationship with Indonesian boys. I had a
relationship with Russian girls and so I can com…
We can compare and it just it just feels different. It's
just a completely different experience in terms that.
Well, sometimes this you learn like about Look to
the new culture but new country, it's it's just
different. It feels better. There are a lot of ways that
you can improve yourself in this relationship
because you can learn from each other. And there
are just a lot of things that you can teach and learn.
It is amazing.
IVP: Okay, what interesting culture do you
experience from dating each other? Maybe because
you guys already dating for how long?
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SV: Since November. But, before we make it
official, we already exlusive. So aroung 8 month I
think?
SW: yeah I think so.
IVP: So yeah what interesting about Indonesia
culture?
SW: Well, actually my first introduction to
Indonesia happened, I would say on my second day.
Cuz my first friends here were Indonesian. Ah,
yeah. Like I'm mostly in the school. I mostly hang
out with Indonesian as well. Yeah and my first
second year, like if I go somewhere like The party
in the city in the nation through do with you know
Indonesian and why I was hanging out with
Indonesian it’s just because for me like they're just
like such a like cool guy, it was like fun to working
and play with them because like some other Asian I
feel like… let's say Vietnamese or Taiwanese is
more close (private person) like I feel like they're
very close, you know. I would say Indonesian, they
do know how to have fun and for me it was just like
yeah, I was even going like, Indonesia Russia will
be one because we are alike. Boys like… we are
similar in many like views? On the same things. So
would like have some opinion and same thing, you
know, views on the same things and then, yeah,
then I meet my girlfriend and starting to learn more
about Indonesia And what can I say? Yeah, I would
really love to visit Indonesia one day because from
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what I heard, yeah, I mean Indonesia do have some
nice place. Apart from like, Jakarta and stuff. The
real nice Islands how I'm sure I would like yeah.
And since I already love the people, I'm a hundred
percent sure. It's going to be an awesome trip.
IVP: How about you SW?
SW: Hmmm… What interesting about Russian
culture… What interesting about Russian culture,
let me think. It's like so many of it so because like
my boyfried is telling me about the food and that
also did music, mostly about the music. I guess it's
very interesting because he love to listen to what is
it like Russian rocks or rap? And also I guess like
Like bases from several stories while he was having
such a blast when he was still living in Russia. Like
hanging out with his friends and then like, for
example, like swimming in the middle of winter,
like how could you guys do that, like this, you guys
must be, must not be a human to be able to do that.
What else? Yeah, I think it's mostly the same with
him because like, for example, he has comparison
with other Indonesian before, but for me. I've never
been to Russia and the only Russian person I've
ever met and known is only him. So like Mostly is
like also his his own life experience, not only
Russia in general, I guess. I can't really say a lot
about Russia but it's very interesting. Like I learned
a lot about Russia after like it's very different from
other European countries, Like he always say, don't
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compare Russia to other European countries
because it's not because it's very different. Yeah, it's
very interesting that way.
IVP: How about a strange habit? Do you notice any
habbit that you think it’s odd?
SW: Stange habbit… Strange habbit? Hmm I can’t
really think of anything
IVP: Kayak kebiasaan aneh yang mungkin tiba-tiba
dia lakuin gitu?
SW: Iya gw lagi mikir sih, nothing come to minds.
How about you?
SV: For me I think what strange is her chili
consumtion. Like I say before. It’s really weird how
she put chili on everything.
IVP: Okay, next question. Have
you ever been in a conflict with
each other?
SV: Actually not, I don't remember a single conflict,
you know, I mean, it's only been 8 months, but for 8
months, I know. I don't think now, we didn't have
like, a single conflict
SW: Yeah. Yeah. Most of the time we're just
exchanging, thoughts and you cannot say that it's a
conflict. Because we're not arguing
IVP: How about a different opinion? Do you guys
have different opinion abou something sometimes?
SW: Hahaha, Don’t evn start with different opinion.
IVP: Okay, I will start from Sawani first since you
clearly have something to say.
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SW: He have unique opinion about certain subject.
I remember, one of the question that we talk much
is when American election. What is it? Presidental
election? And then he ask me… Who are you? Who
are you gonna vote if you live in America? And I
say of course Biden not Trump. And he say “Why
Biden, Trump is clearly better?” and I was shock
like how is Trump is better because he is racist,
basicly he is… He is not a decent human being in
my… in my point of view. And then he, he started
to explain being recist is… is… In president being
racist is… I kinda forget what he said. Basicly
Trump personality doesn’t really effect him being
the president.
SV: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SW: Like yeah he is saying that sort of stuff that
really bizarre for me.
SV: Yeah, like basicly Trump as a president. Like
he is the only one that didn’t start any war. Like he
didn’t start any war and he do care about the
economic of American. He raise the tax in many
economic sector. Like he is strating to… Like why
he start being a racist is to stop the flow of illegal
immigrant and than the left liberal social media, just
put the image of him being a racist. So yeah now a
lot of people. Like now people just read of him
being bad, when they didn’t know about what he
done during his presidency. So yeah I ask it because
I just wondering what would she do. But then she
say “Of course Biden” and I was like “Why” and
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then she say “because Trump is a racist” and we just
exchange our thought about some subject.
IVP: Any other example beside politic?
SW: We mostly talk about politic. When we are
having some sort of a debate. We mostly talk about
politc, not our personal relationship.
SV: (laughing) Personal relationship, I feel like
there is nothing to talk about.
SW: Yeah, like we don’t have anything to debate.
IVP: How about other different world topic like
environmental or anything else?
SW: hahaha, ask him. If he want to start the debate
about all of this.
IVP: Hahaha, okay, maybe SV want to answer the
question?
SV: Well, we do talk about multiple topic and…
But. It’s usually me who started this topic and I’m
just…
SW: Yeah, he is that friend in a group that like to
talk about that stuff.
SV: yeah, I like talking about main topic about
anything. Like we usually have completely different
view from each other. But, we are pretty open about
everything. So I have to explain to her about my
point of view. Like how is she wrong about her
oopinion. And yeah like we maybe talk about
equality and different stuff, politic as well, yeah we
talk a lot. Like because we have opposite point of
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view, we just have a really open and interesting
conversation. She even call me racist sometimes.
SW: yeah, that because you are. Hahahaha.
SV: I’m not, I’m not, hahahaha.
SW: Like, he would like saying stuff like. There is
no more white supremacy. There is Black and Asian
supremacy. I feel so attack by that statement.
SV: hahahah.
SW: And he like to say stuff like there is no white
privilege. Like what? One time the aunty in the
canteen will give him like free stuff like free fried
chicken and I was like how is it not a privilege. And
he will say like, “no I was just a kind person tahta’s
why they give me a bunch of free stuff.”
SV: I am, I’m just being a nice person, that’s why
they like to give me a bunch of free stuff. It has
nothing to do with skin.
SW: no like, remember whe we went to Indonesian
restaurant and you and the other foreign student get
a discount when me, the one who bring you there
got nothing. And I was just like (exhale). And we
always just talk about stuff like that. Our conflict is
more like that, I don’t think it can called a conflict
because we just exchange our opinion.
SV: yeah so it’s like that.
IVP: So it’s like both of you have a different
opinion?
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SW: Yeah, but like he like to do that. For his own
amusement. Like he want to see other people
reaction.
IVP: It’s quite interesting, but like there is no
conflict because of that different opinion or like one
of you got angry because of that statement?
SV: She… She will get angry sometimes about the
thing I say. But, yeah, it’s never make like a bigger
argument bacuse we know we are not serious or
anything.
SW: yeah, he just like to say that for the sake of..
SV: For the sake of entertainment.
IVP: Hahahaha.
IVP: Okay, moving on to the next
question. How is your dating
history?
Okay, in your opinion, what is the
difference between dating a
foreigner and someone with the
same cultural background as you?
Like how is it progress, and how is
the relationship different?
SW: yeah, yeah
SV: Hmmm (Nodding)
SW: Yeha, I kinda don’t understand because I only
have one Ex and he is not from Indonesia.
(Japanese). So I can’t really say how is it different
from dating an Indoneisan. Cause I never had that
experience. But, from listening from my friend like
sometime they will confide in me.Like I notice that
a lot of Indonesian is really take it slow. Like they
will start from a text and yeah, with him I think the
progress is really fast. Like I feel like foreigner is
really active in pursuing the girl/boy. Like not only
texting, they will actually do many thing. Like,
saying “Hey you wanna hang out”. I think maybe
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Indonesian is kinda shy I guess? Yeah I can only
say that.
IVP: How about you SV?
SV: Well, I do have some experience with Russian
girls. And… yeah I mean it’s just feel different from
any of my past relationship. Well I think first of all I
was dating some Russian girl when I was just really
just a different person back then. I started when I
was just 15 or 16 and it ended when I came to
Taiwan. And I’m single for the past 2 year. It was
just, it’s feel really different. From what we talk
about, to what the relationship progress, to how it
feels. It’s just really different. First of all, because I
myself is different person. Comparing to what I was
like, when I was 16, 17, 18 and I don't know, it's
just feel different. It's kind of interesting in a way
because there are more thing to learn (dating a
foreigner). I guess, maybe just actually it's hard to
say what's exactly different, like, or what is better,
what is worse? Is it's Literally dependent on the
person you're dating. You can you can date like a
perfect like girl from your country and then met a
terrible girl from a foreign country and of course
your experience would be like different and vice
versa. So so far I'm enjoying the Relationship with a
SW as a foreigner because it's just like, she's an
amazing person and we have like amazing time
together. And then, yeah. And then when I was
dating a Russian girl with was like, I was in a
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completely different like life situation, I had like
school, I had a plenty of stuff like to do after school,
I didn't have that much of a free time that
relationship was more like just you know, having
fun together hanging out, but we can’t call it
something serious. I have to say that in a way dating
a people from the same culture is easier because we
are more likely to understand each other more. I’m
not saying like feeling and stuff. But more like how
we think. Like in Russia there is a certain topic that
we both know, we both understand, maybe inside
jokes and stuff. Bacuse you know, someone from
the same country can understand where somethings
is coming from. For SW we have so much
difference that it’s fun. We exchange thought, learn
more, and overall if we can be open and
understanding with each other, we can connect in a
much deeper level.
IVP: Ok, that’s very interesting.
IVP: But, let me ask you. Do you guys have any
expectation dating a foreigner?
SW: Hmmmmmmm, I guess it’s more like… For
me I kinda nervous about it because I don’t really
have any idea how it feels like. Maybe I thought it
would be more intense I guess from Indonesian?
More wild? But yeah because my ex boyfriend is
also a foreigner, I think I can adapt better with my
current Boyfriend.
IVP: Ok, how about you SV?
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SV: Maybe because I know a lot of Indonesia
before dating SW, I kinda think maybe we can have
a lot of fun together. But if we are talking like Asian
in general, I kinda expect she is shy and doesn’t talk
much and very-very private. But, yeah so far SW is
really fun and nice.
IVP: OK, next question. Have you
ever had difficulty communicating
with each other? Like maybe there
is some languages barrier between
the two of you?
SW: I would say not really because he and I can
speak English pretty fluently. So there are no
languages barrier for us. Like, we have the same
joks and so we don’t really have difficulty talking
and yeah there are no any barrier between us in
terms of communicating.
IVP: How about accent? I notice when SV speak
there are some accent? And Sawani there is also a
little bit of accent, is there any difficulty with it?
SV: Well, me personaly I don’t think I have any
Russian accent.
SW: yeah, you should hear when he talk in Russian
and now his English don’t really have thick accent
anymore.
SV: So what… It was on my first year in Taiwan,
my accent is still quite thick. Actually SW. Now she
doesn't have this (accent), like, I've heard worse. At
least I did understand her. And then, and I feel like
my accent. Yeah, I might have some accent from
time to time, but basically our… both of our
accents, they're just, you know, something. Pretty
much similar to… yeah. Pretty much (we)
understand each other and like… I'm like, I'm a
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hundred percent sure that we have no problem and
understanding each other. Actually, when we talk
for the first time, at the party. I notice she talk quite
fast and as a result sometimes I can’t catch what is
she saying. But, other than that not really.
IVP: All right.
IVP: Okay, next question. Okay,
maybe we can talk about culture
shock. What made it would be have
already talked about it before, but
what is the what is the time when
you feel like? Wow, it's really
different, it's really shocking for
you. Okay, I'll start from SW first
SW: Us dating right now. I don't experience much
the culture shock, but from hearing your (SV)
stories, I feel like I have a culture shock. Like when
you were when you were 16, you know, what is it?
Like, I think what is it like, After like it sounds like
after like in holidays you will will partying with
your friends and that's us for Indonesia. I don't like
if it's Indonesian culture or it's just like our… how
like, our upbringing because like my family with all
my friends, I'd say we're almost the same like, how
we are raised. So we don't drink alcohol at that age,
we don't party. I think the first time I drank alcohol
was when I came here in Taiwan and I was already
like 19. That's I'm 19 years old. So yeah, yeah. And
even when we have like this 17th birthday
celebration, we don't really drink alcohol, right? It's
just like me have.
IVP: How about you SV?
SV: Well, my only culture shocks. Yeah, wouldn't
even call them shock just differences. I will say this
is spins around the food because there are some
things that Asians eat that I would never ever ever
imagine that a human could possibly eat. Yeah. And
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then it's just yeah. And then also With the weather.
It's too hot in Taiwan for me. And SW told me, it's
even hoter in Indonesia. I mean this winter is nice
but like summer is just something else. Yeah then in
other things I'm pretty much. Okay, I guess
IVP: Ohhh interesting.
IVP: Okay, how about hurdles? I
mean challenge you face in your
relationship?
SW: Hmmmmm…. Apa ya? Challenge? I think it’s
more like the image of our relationship. All of our
friend is very supportive. But, some of people we
know like to judge. Like “oh you don’t like
someone from the same country as you” or “wow
why would a European date an Asian?” something
like that. I mean it doesn’t effect our relationship.
But still.. Ouch?
IVP:Okay, how about you SV?
SV: Well… hmmm I don’t really notice it before?
So I can’t say anything.
SW: yeah I think it’s more like an image of
European dating an Asian, sometimes people talk.
IVP: Okay, I will move to the next
question. Let’s talk about
strereotype. Like SW you know
about Russia before meet SV and
SV you know about Indonesia
before meeting SW. So like, what
stereotype you have about each
other country before dating each
SW: With Russia. I think of Vodka and It's like
what kind of very extreme extreme climate like the
winter is really cold. Yeah, I think I only know what
that I don't know before I met somebody. I don't
really know anything about Russia. Maybe this is
not a stereotype, more like a impression. Like
Russia people is cold and unfriendly, full of
handsome and pretty people. But yeah, I kinda
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other? Maybe I will start with SW
first.
scared of him when we first met. Like he is big and
I kinda imagine him as a cold person and yeah that
makes me kinda intimidated and scared.
IVP: Okay, anything else?
SW: Yeah I think that’s about it.
IVP: Okay, let’s moving on to SV. What is you
stereotype about Indonesian? Before u date SW?
SV: Since I, my only knowledge was coming
directly from Indonesian, not from other because
when I’m I Russia, I’m not really know anything
about Indoensia. Just know that country exist. And
of course, when I come here on my first year in
Taiwan. I meet with my classmates (Indonesian)
and when I was like asking them what Indonesia are
like, “yeah, it's okay, nice place. Just get it, flood
some time now. And people think that we Only
work as domestic helpers but the rest are fine” and
like they told me. What are the stereotypes? But
yeah, I couldn't say I had any problems with
Indonesia. I just knew what the common stereotype
because they told me and that was a Okay I guess.
Like I can’t say it’s my own thinking because.
IVP: Okay, how about negative stereotype? Do you
have any negative stereotype with each other?
SV: Hmmm, I don’t know any negative stereotype.
Yeah I mean, I don’t know if this is stereotype or
no. But I do hear that they like to gossip.
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SW: (Laughing) But yeah, like I told you before
before I meat SV, I don’t really know much about
Russia. So yeah, I don’t really know negative
stereotype about Russia. Maybe cold and
unfriendly, but again, I don’t think it’s like a
sterotype more like an impression.
IVP: Hahaha okay, but like with that stereotype you
have? What stereotype do you think is correct about
each othe culture or what stereotype prove to be
false? Maybe we can start from SW first.
SW: Well, after dating with SV because like I said,
he will tell me stories about Russia, and that I will
be. I will be interested in that and then I will search
in the, on the internet. And then like, of course,
people will come up with stereotypes like the
Adidas, like, Russians like to wear Addidas and it's
true. I can say it's true. Like he has this one pair of
Adidas pens and he really loved it and and then he
teared the pans and he's like, no, no. Like, Russians
love Addidas. And of course winter. Like the
coldest winter I've ever… I've ever felt when I when
I'm here, like in my four years, almost four years of
living in Taiwan, that's my that's the coldest winter
for me because it comes from, it's like 9 degrees
Celsius. And usually, it usually it's only in Taipei
that the temperature is that low, but I was very cold.
Like I even took out my winter coat that I… that
I…. that I wore when I went to Japan and then SV
was just wearing like what is? like like normal
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sweater like just like that. And then when it's like 15
degrees outside, I would wear a sweater and he just
wearing a t-shirt and shorts sound like what? It's not
cold?. He is like “no this is the perfect weather. It's
like it's summer nice in Russia.” Like what in the
world is that?
SV: Hahaha
IVP: hahaha, what about you impression about cold
and unfriendly.
SW: yeah, I’m mean people are different even when
they coming from the same culture. For SV, I think
he is the most friendly person in our group of
friend.
IVP: How about you SV? I know you say you
personally doesn’t have any stereotype about
Indonesia. But from what you hear and after dating
SW. Likw what you think “oh it’s kinda true”
SV: Honestly, not really. Like I don’t really have
any stereotype and there is nothing SW done so far
that would trigger me like “such typical of
Indonesian” So… I cannot… I cannot say. I cannot
say anything
IVP: Alrighty. Moving on. Like
you have dating from around 5 and
exclusive so around 8 month. What
culture that you think it’s similar
between Russian and Indonesian?
Like ohh actually it’ similar with
what we do in Russia or in
SV: You mean like similarity between Indonesia
and Russia?
IVP: yeah, yeah! Based on your opinion.
SV: There is not much. Maybe I think that we both
like to have fun?
SW: Hahaha, maybe it’s just because we happen to
love having fun.
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Indonesia. Do you have experience
about it?
SV: yeah, maybe just a certain number of people. Bt
yeah, there is some similar thing, in anywhere. But,
yeah I would say there is a lot of difference.
IVP: How about you SW?
SW: Russians are as loud as Indonesians really, you
know. Yeah, they're they're even louder than I was
saying. Yeah, yeah. Because like, if you compare
Indonesian to Taiwanese of personal relations are
very loud, like a bunch of people We're talking but
Ian Russians are louder. Well, at least the same as
us.
IVP: Alright, moving on. How
about your lifestyle? Do you have
different lifestyle from each other?
And does it effect you relationship?
SV: I would say no. I mean like we mostly pretty
similar. Like… I like what she like and she like
what I like.
IVP: How about a simple lifestyle? Like who is the
most responsible or who is the night owl, morning
person and other stuff?
SW: I mean SV and I practically is a night owl. I
can stay awake until 3 am.
SV: Yeah, she like to make me sleep late.
SW: But! I’m still wake up early in the morning. So
I can sleep at 3 am. But wake up at 8 am.
SV: somehow.
SW: Somehow, yeah! But it’s like my resposibilty
so I do it. But yeah on weekend I will wake up
maybe around 12 pm or 1 pm. Just 12 hour of sleep.
IVP: So who are more serious about study or
anything else. Please tell me about it.
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SW: Maybe because in high school I’m super
diligent and just really just studying as hard as I can
in many clases like history and other. And now I
just have like the graphic design, right? And you
don't really have to learn a lot anything. I'm not that
serious but I know that I'm I'm pretty easily get
stressed. Like I is like I can get stressed very easily
from doing the design work design projects, even
though I liked the design and then SV for example
is very chill. like for example now it's the midterm
and he is pretty chill about it. And he do everthing
in the last minute and still get a good score. Yeah. I
know like from my like 8 months that I've known
him and I've never really seen him like really
prepare for a test, you know, like he can he can just
go to class not knowing there is a test on that day
and he would like blah, blah, blah, blah blah and
you also get a very high score.
SV: It’s because I'm very smart
SW: Hmm yeah? Hahahaha. But yeah, because I get
stress easily and he is more chill, I think he really
understanding about it and never really make our
relationship sour or anything.
IVP: How about you SV? Like I feel SW is more
planning and youa re more chill. So yeah what do
you think about it?
SV: Yeah, that's true. So yeah, she's very
responsible and she, she know she helps me a lot
because I don't really because I don't speak Chinese
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first of all. And she can speak Chinese. So she
helped me with many stuff and like yeah I'm
basically I would say she's definitely more
responsible and more responsible than me. I am just
thankfull for that.
SW: Your welcome babe. Hahahaha.
SV: But yeah, like she say, there is not really any
problem with that difference.
IVP: Okay. That on the educational lifestyle. How
about fun stuff? Like night lifestyle?
SW: hahaha. It’s kinda the same.
SV: yeah, after we date. Our night lifstlye is pretty
much the same.
IVP: How is it before?
SV: Maybe I have to say that I drink more and party
more. Like yeah I basicly done that in Russia and
SW like to tell me that she pretty much new in bar
or nightclub.
SW: yea that’s right. Well, when I first met him
even when I was drunk, he thought that I wasn't
drunk when I was talking to him, because I look
normal. I'm like, even before meeting several like I
think I drink sometimes, but now I think I drank
more. as now cause like now we are we on
weekends. We would also hang out with our
friends. So we will go hang out and drink, you
know? So I we at least drink once every week.
Before, maybe it’s like 2 per month. (SW also
starting to vape because of SV).
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SV: What funny about her is that sometimes she can
drink a lot and not drunk and sometime she will
have one can of beer and very tipsy.
SW: yeah, I think it’s depend on my cycle
SV: But other funny things about her is like. She is
very nice person, very polite. But, whenever we go
drinking somewhere and she'll do it. She'll get tipsy
or drunk on our way home. She'll be just like so
aggressive towards everyone. We meet in our way
here. Like I remember is it's like funny stories. Like
on our way home she could rant the passing person
who just like come like beside us and then she
would like “You have a problem with me” or
something like that. I'm pretty sure the person
wasn't even looking. Yeah, are like well, we're
walking back on the road is like a car in front of us,
so we had to make it turn to pass. Through it
actually works like that. Huh? And what an idiot.
Angry… angry… comments involved like annoying
stuff but it's only when she is tipsy or drunk.
SW: because I really like when I'm sober, I will try
to restrain myself Saying that out loud. I was just
like Mumble to myself like it, if you don't, like why
is this guy Raisa like this or part like this? But then
when I'm tipsy or drawing, then there will be no
more sensors, no more censorship.
IVP: How is it SW when drunk? Is it like can make
a conflict between the two of you?
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SV: no, it’s okay. She is still fine. It’s quite funny
actually.
IVP: Do you have any difference value like when
you doing you lifstlye?
SW: Maybe ya… Maybe what I feel the most is like
indualism. I mean I think Russia is more
individualist than Indonesia. So I tend to go to
places with all my friend and rarely going
somewhere alone. But him, like he really doesn’t
care about that stuff. So he can just go somewhere
alone, don’t really think about the other person. As
for me, I really like going somewhere in a group.
SV: yea, I think for me the very Asian thing of her
is that she always try to restrain herself when
talking about certain stuff. That’s why when she got
drunk, it just broke loose. And she’s more like “We
have to plan before going” and I’m pretty much go
with the flow.
IVP: Okay moving on. You both
mainly speak in English when
communicating. Does it sometimes
mix with your first languages? Like
sometime it’s hard to say the word
in English so you say it in Russian
and vice versa.
SV: Yeah, Yeah! Actaully it happen quite a lot.
Like sometime I learn about a certain Indonesian
word ans I tell her like the Russian word for it. Just
sometimes during our talking. I have to say
SW: Yups, it’s like yeah I think it would be nice if I
can speak Russian because I can communicate with
his family and so he can communicate with my
family.
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IVP: tell me what are you usually doing when
spending your time together?
SW: We usually go places, hang out, with our
friend, eat, and when we just doing nothing, we
watch Netflix together and maybe watch some
Youtube. SV like to show me like Russian
Youtuber
IVP: What kind of content u guys usually watch?
Like maybe you like to watch more Indonesia,
Russian, or…
SV: Well mostly we… you know watch stuff in
English like. But yeah, sometime she lke to show
me some Indonesia thing, like promotional video
and stuff. And of course I also show her some
Russian content.
IVP: Okay next question, how do
you accommodate each other when
communicating?
SW: Well we basically can understand each other.
Like I think both of our English is great. Rarely,
when I want to explain him something and he
doesn’t understand, I usually use Google Translate.
Oh like maybe sometime I talk to fast and it’s just
how I speak and sometime he would kinda doesn’t
catch what am I talking about, so now I kinda speak
slower to match him. Oh and like, sometimes
because English is not our first languages and
sometime he and me tend to pronounce something
wrong. So we like to correct each other
pronounciation. Like for example I spell Vehicle
“ve hai kle” and he would correct it.
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IVP: Okay, can you tell me about
your relationship before you date?
Like in your “PDKT” Bahasa
Indonesianya SW. Like what
different from that period to now
dating?
SW: owwww… Hmm it’s like a period before we
date and just like not officialy a couple. But, we do
know that we both interested in heading toward that
direction. But yeah, it doesn’t feel that different
from now because we both honest with each other
feeling like I like you and you also interested in me.
So far the communication also seems really basicly
the same. It’s just I know him better now and
maybe you can say when we “pdkt” I kinda more
worried. Like if he don’t reply my text quickly. But
yeah now because I know him better, I kinda
understand him more.
IVP: How about you SV?
SV: for me… Hmmmmmmmmm… Well to be
honest I feel really fine. Like I know we have a
good communication and we both understand each
other. And if one don’t understand we talk. But
yeah like, the difference now basicly is we putting a
label like “dating”.
IVP: Okay, how do you vision your
relationship in the future? I will
start with SV first
SV: Like, nobody knows the future, but of course,
like yeah, there are many things that might come up
Like, how long will she stay in Taiwan? How long
will I stay in Taiwan? What's our plans after we
graduate? And there's literally no, there is no will
sense planning because everything might turn up,
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you know, accidentally and so I prefer just to enjoy
what do we have now. Just work with what we have
now and like, let's see how the situation develops
and I hope it will develop and like that, our no
relationship will be, you know, satisfied.
IVP: Okay, how about you SW?
SW: Yeah, I think the same with him. Like, see
what is going to happen in the future because of
course, like right now our relationship is really
amazing and I hope and I hope in the future it will
too but of course like there will be changes like
either. It's positive changes or negative changes. I
just hope that we can understand all the changes. If
there will be like, what is it like problems in future.
But, I do think we can solve the problems because I
can talk anything with him.
IVP: So it’s like you stay open and willing to talk
about anything?
SW: yeah… Yeah
SV: yeah, I will say that we both literary can talk
about anything.
IVP: So yeah, I think like you both
have a very different opinion
certain subject, but it never cause an
issue between the two of you? But
like it never make one of you feel
angry about how they think and
stuff?
SW: yeah, I think it’s because we respect each other
opinions, you know, like We have our own opinions
and when we are exchanging our opinions is just
like, oh, I can learn why you have that, kind of
opinion. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't be angry when
you do when you are disagreeing with me. Because
I'm respecting your opinion, and there are reasons
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why you believe in that. So there's no point of being
angry or wanting them to also agree with you, you
know, like, Agree in disagreeing.
IVP: How about you SV like how is it from your
point of view?
SV: same. Like we do discuss different topics but
it's not like they would in any way affect like My
Relations to her and so is it? Yeah, it's interesting to
know other points of view on the same topic and
that's what we do. Basically, we're just exchanging,
thoughts, debating it, discussing it and it's more
entertaining like the whole thing of the debate, it
shouldn’t cause any anger or you know, conflict. It's
just for our own little development and for the sake
of like, you know, just you know, learning more
stuff.
SW: But yeah, me like the main reason is because
like, we respect each other's ears and that's that's
yeah
IVP: okay, maybe I will talk about
etnosentrism. Like do you have
those feeling and like how is it
affecting you relationship?
SW: Okay, maybe I will just give an example of it.
Like in a way we both feel proud of our country.
But yeah, I think that meeting a foreigner in a
foreign land tends to make people more open
minded. So it is not an issue for me.
SV: yeah me too. Like we understand that both our
country have positive and negative. But we do like
to tell each other about our country. Negative stuff,
positive stuf, food, and yeah many more.
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SW: But yeah like sometimes his view of certain
thing is weird for me like for example like he think
that we cannot really achieve equality because like
for example like the jobs, There are works that are
that women can’t do. Like women cannot really do
any man's job. Like, for example, like, at that time I
was very triggering. I'm like, what do you mean?
Like, you know, like women also have this
qualities, blah, blah, blah. like, for example, like,
doing construction, like construction workers, like,
you rarely see women doing that kind of job like
like labor, labor jobs. Particularly women that are
not built for that kind of like woman's body are not
build that way, but of course, like Services were
like, in like office office job was, of course, women
are qualified to because because you're just using
the brings like, the matter of people smarter or not,
but when it comes to physical labor women. Yeah.
SV: Because the thing is the thing is what we boys
do in Russian is just like out of like Russian Society
is very traditional and conservative. Like I know all
this like liberal Trends pretty popular among the
modern world like Racial equality, gender, equality,
gay rights and stuff in Russia. People are just taking
it as a joke, you know? And then of course, yeah.
And since I was like, basically raised in all this
culture and like all these topics and opinions and
actually those opinions their back with like, You
know, actual proves and words and that like, since
that, that seems that I nowadays Society just wants
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to forget. But yeah. And I have this background of
like explaining and knowing how to explain all my
conservative points of view. And I of course, she
like to say “Why like why like what the fuck are
you saying? Like, what is this? Oh hey, what are
you? What are you came from the cave or
something?” And then like I know why and then I'm
just explaining it to her. She's like. Yeah. That
makes sense. That makes makes sense. Yeah, and
it's always like that and then, yeah. So that's pretty
much it. Okay? I'm just, I'm just, I'm just saying. I'm
just saying, Very unpopular opinions and then I'm
baking them up with the proves and then yeah.
SW: Kinda make sense… hahahaha
IVP: Okay, moving on. Like I
rember you say that you met at a
party, a house party and what
makes you both interested with
each other? Maybe physical
appearance or the way they think
and other stuff?
SW: I don't really have. You see that some friends
has told me a lot about SV, like this Russian guy.
So, what is this Russian guy talks a lot about a lot of
things, okay? Like it's also a lot of bullshit. So that
basically what they told me, and then I'm like, oh,
okay, And then he's and then he's like, very childish
and then like my other friend also made him before,
and then like she also said, like, yeah, he's pretty
childish. And then when I met him in the house
party, and I when we talk, what I remember this
like, he's very open, like, very open-minded and
then very knowledge knowledgeable in histories
like he has common interest. With me like reading
what histories stuff, you know, when he talks with
me like he's not childish actually like the way when
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he's bullshitting and being childish is just like how
he wants to see other people's reaction. So, it's like
entertainment for him again. So it's just funny. But
what makes me interested in him is because like,
he's real smart, actually, he's really smart, even
though, like most know, like, most of our friends
will also say that he's smart, even though he isn't act
like it. Even though he goes around acting like is
this dumb person but is actually smart. Yeah, that's
why I'm interested.
IVP: How about his physical appearence, So tell me
about it.
SW: Absolutely. And when we met on, in the house
party, I was kind of afraid to approach him because
because I was like kind of afraid because he is a
buff guy, you know, kind of like a big guy. Now,
when you see him in real life, I don't like Okay, like
I feel kind of intimidated, but then when I, when I,
when I introduce myself, he's very friendly and
nice.
IVP: How about you SV? What is your first
impression of SW and what makes you interested in
you
SV: Oh well, of course, the first like… the first and
we see just like a physical attraction, right? So I
notice that she is a very good-looking girl, and of
course, she caught my eye, she get out of, she got
on my Raider and I'm like, okay, get to know this
girl better and then yeah, then after I talk to her and
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talking and it was so interesting. And then we
started chatting and like, we could talk about
different topics for hours. I was just saying I was
just like, so, you know, it was so interesting to just
spend time with her, just talking and because, you
know, sometimes like some girls, they could be
like, no matter how hot they are, like if they're like
tun tun tun (stupid), there is just like, not bad, like,
right here, that doesn't matter how they look like
they're pouring and like dumb is just like a waste of
time. And but we see why it was just You know, it
was like golden like she has a nice good looking,
she's smart. She's kind, it's. It's so interesting to
spend time with her and I was like, yeah, that's
that's where that's my stop. Told I myself.
IVP: Okay this is the last question
and I’m gonna ask her in Indonesia
because I think she can explain it
better because it’s kind of Important
question. Ok SW kayak bagaimana
sih lu memaknai hubungan u
dengan SV?
(How do you intreprete your
relationship)
SW: Memaknai… Hmm kayak gimana ya. Kalau
menurut gw sih ini hubungan yang gw sama dia
sama-sama… Hmmm saling menghormati gitu deh.
Kayak hubungan yang gak pake ada saling hormat
itu… Kayak love of course juga ada. But. Kita juga
sama-sama saling menghargai gitu. Jadi kita sama-
sama built kepercayaan gitu loh. Hmm jadi kayak
gimana ya? Hahaha.
IVP: Jadi apakah ini hubungan yang ideal menurut
lu?
SW: ya menurut gw ini hubungan yang ideal sih.
Dibandingin sama hubungan lalu gw. Gw dan dia
lebih connect. Kayak experience kita sama gitu loh.
Apa yang kita alamin dari kecil itu kayak sama gitu.
Jadi kita bisa sama-sama ngomong, sama-sama…
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sama dan menurut gw itu penting banget loh. Kayak
walaupun lu pacarana sama orang luar negeri tapi
misalnya cuman bisa Bahasa inggris, tapi kayak
jokesnya atau omongannya gak nyambung gitu
kayak gak konek. Kalau enggak begitu rasanya
pacarannya kayak awang-awang gitu loh. Kayak
ya… Kayak hubungan sama mantan (hahahaha).
Kayak lebih berharga.. hamm tapi gak juga sih,
kayak gw merasa lebih nyaman banget di hubungan
ini. Itu dia! Itu dia kata-katanya: NYAMAN!
IVP: Okay SV, this is the last question and like how
do you interprete you relationship with SW?
SV: How do I interpret my relationship with me?
Interesting.
SW: Right? It's pretty hard question.
SV: Yeah. Well I would say that this relationship is
like something that I personally never had before,
and the for me is such a nice experience now,
because I'm dating an amazing person. Everything
is fine with our relationship, like we don't have any
problems, we discuss everything and if everything
comes up, we Overcome it together. And I would
say this is just like an example of a perfect
relationship and that and that like, I am very happy
and I hope it stays this way. And I'm pretty sure it
will stay this way because I don't think anything can
change with us the way we are. And then that we
We, I'm pretty sure that we will enjoy ourselves as
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much as possible. It’s like everday the relationship
keep getting better and better, it feels nice.
IVP: Okay, thank you so much. Okay, is it like aan
ideal relationship in your mind?
SV:Yeah, that that's for sure
IVP: Okay, this is the end of our
interview. Thank you very much for
all the information and I really
appreciate your time. Terima kasih!
SV & SW: Your welcome
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TRANSKRIP WAWANCARA 2
Tanggal: Sabtu, 24 April 2021 (20:15 – 21:40)
Tempat: ZOOM
Partisipan: YYK dan DS
Moderator: Indakhila Vidya Putri - Transkrip sebagai IVP
Peserta:
- YYK Mahasiswa Bisnis di Universitas I-Shou yang berlokasi di
Kaohsiung, Taiwan. Sudah menjalani hubungan dengan DS selama 1
bulan
- DS Mahasiswa Bisnis di universitas I-Shou yang berada di Kaohsiung,
taiwan. Sudah menjalin hubungan dengan YYK selama 8 bulan.
Pertanyaan Jawaban
IVP: First of all, thank you so much
for agreein to this interview. Maybe
before we started ahh.. we can
strated with the introduction first.
Maybe I will start by introducing
myself first. My name is Indakhila,
I have YYK for about 7 years and
this interview is for my thesis.
Okay, before we started, maybe you
guys can introduce yourself first.
YYK boleh Bahasa Indonesia atau
Bahasa Ingris.
YYK: Okay, I will go first. My name is YYK and
I’m in Taiwan right now and I’m from Indonesia
DS: Hi! I’m Daniel and I’m from Honduras and aa….
I have been dating YYK for 1 year and a half
IVP: Okay thak you so much.
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IVP: Okay. Let's go to the first
question. Okay. First of all, when
did you meet your girlfriend or
boyfriend and what makes you
interested in them? I will start with
YYK first
YYK: We (laughing) actually meet at a nightclub.
Yeah, we went to the same school but we just say hi
to each other.
DS: And then… and then we were invited to the same
party. Yeah the where we are invited on the same
time. So yeah, we met at the party
IVP: How about before the party? Like did you
already like friends before?
YYK: I’ve seen him before but I didn't really know
anything about him or even his name. I know he's a
friend of my senior. That's all I know about him.
IVP: And what makes you interested in your
boyfriend?
YYK: Well, he is a nice guy and kind. Honest, I
respect honesty and honestly, it doesn’t took that long
for me to like in him. It was really straight from the
point, like he's interested in me. So yeah, okay.
IVP: How about you DS?
DS: No, I really enjoy the conversations that we
have. The first time we met. I was looking forward to
meeting her more. It really had a huge impact on me.
My interest in her is when I notice how calm she is,
and how happy she is. Not really easy to get angry,
very funny. That's pretty nice.
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IVP: What do you guys talking about when you first
met? Like what are the topic of the conversation?
DS: it was a year and a half ago had. But, I really
was…
YYK: I remember we're talking about. Well, what
are we were watching.
DS: Yeah, I remember that… we ended up talking
about what we're watching them. Talking abouy our
hobby's, what we do? Yeah, yeah. What you usually
do in your free time. She mention Netflix, and I had
to go on with it. So I started talking about Netflix and
what series we had in common.
IVP: Okay, next question. You
guys come from different country
and culture. What different custom
you experience from each other?
DS: Sorry what?
IVP: Different custom
DS: Different what?
YYK: Custom. Like culture?
IVP: Maybe more like “Kebiasaan”
YYK: Ohhh ok. Kalau misalnya kayak makan bersih
gitu kehitung gak?
IVP: Well apapun, boleh cerita aja.
YYK: Hmm how to say it ya?
DS: Just give me the example.
YYK: Well for me, I grew up in kinda strick
household so I have to clean every meal, clean the
house, don’t use shoe inside, and yeah things like
that. How about you?
DS: Ahh, so kinda like a tradition.
IVP: yeah sure.
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DS: Hmmm, let me think about it. You can go first.
YYK: Tab water I think. He is kinda wasteful. Like
Tab water is one example. When I brush my teeth, I
always close the water. But he always continue
brushing and waste the water. Food as well, he kinda
not always clean his plate. And I think I clean the
house often and he is not. Like I say, I grew up in
kinda strict household, so this thing is not a custom
for me, more like a norm. I mean, we do share house
chore, it’s not just me who clean the house or cook.
We share it and we both do it.
DS: The reason why is I done that is because in my
country (Honduras) we don’t really have water
coming out from a tab. We usually have big container
of water and the small one and from that we brush
our teeth. In the very rare occasion, we will have
water coming out from the tab. So when we have that
occasion, we all will be happy to use it all. Because
we ne never know when it will end.
IVP: Okay, and does that different, differences ever
make you fight with each other. Like cause an
argument between the two of you?
DS: Hmm let me think.
YYK: hmmm
DS: hmm, not really because yeah we just talk about
it and she know why I did it and I understand from
her point of view. But, no we never really have any
argument about our differences.
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IVP: How about like individualism and kolektivism?
DS: I think we are similar in that stuff… like we are
more like…. Ahhhh… we love to go somewhere in a
large group and also we really think more about what
we want, not what I want.
YYK: yeah that true, surprisingly, we are very
similar in that area.
IVP: Okay, next question. What is
interesting about having a romantic
relationship with someone from a
different country? Maybe I will
start from Daniel first.
DS: It is interesting how she see’s the world from her
point of view and her prespective is very different
from mine. So it is interesting. It’s very different
from what I and my in Honduras really.
IVP: Okay, How about you YYK?
YYK: I think it’s really interesting to know the
difference. Like how we were raise, the story of our
country, and many more. Like… I think it’s really
fun to know more about other country. Like hearing
how he is in highschool feels really bizarre and really
really different from me. Him in highschool is really
different, like in highschool if he doesn’t want to go
to school it’s okay. But for us school is like a must!
Like his parents is okay with him.
DS: yeah, it’s not an obligation. Like my parents give
me a lot of freedom about the decisions
YYK: Not like us (Indonesian). We have to go to
school no matter what.
IVP: Intersting, so in some sense DS is more relaxed
as a person than you? Like more chilled?
YYK: I would say so.
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IVP: Okay, next question. Are there
any strange habit that you notice
from your partner? Like maybe you
saw your partner doing something
weird or yeah anything.
YYK: Hmmmm, not really I guess.
DS: Well I don’t know about her. But I do think I
have some habit like how I like to touch people hair
and stuff also this is kinda weird maybe, but we do
have habit to pull bra straps.
IVP: Ohhh okay!
DS: I also notice that she can pretty much eat spicy
food and I thought I can eat spicy, but she is on
another level.
IVP: Okay to the next question,
have you ever been in a conflict or
argument with your partner?
DS: Conflict like fist fight?
YYK: hahahaha
IVP: hahahah, no -no. More like an argument. And if
you ever puch her I will report you. Hahahaha. But
yeah like have you ever fight like have different
opinion on something and it cause an argument?
YYK: I don’t think we have like big fight over
something. But yeah in relationship there is always a
different opinion and I think it’s normal.
DS: Yeah we mostly have different opinion about
certain topic or just small thing. Like where to eat
and yeah that stuff.
IVP: Why do you think you never have a big
argument for 1 and a half year in relationship?
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DS: I think it’s mostly because we both are open
minded. Like we have so much difference that we
really just open about it. Like I think because she is
come from a different country than me, have a
different upbringing, and just growing up different
from me. We just accept it and we certainly can talk
about it. So we don’t really have any argument.
IVP: How about you YYK?
YYK: Yeah same. Like I think we just talk about it.
Like why you think like this and I think like that and
there always a good reason for that. So yeah… Have
we ever fight before? (asking DS)
DS: no yeah…
YYK: yeah no, we are pretty chill with each other.
IVP: Alrighty! Moving on to the
next question. Let’s talk about past
relationship. YYK you have some
ex from Indonesia? And DS do you
have some ex from Honduras?
Okay, based on your opinion. What
is the difference between dating
someone from a different culture
than someone from the same culture
as you?
YYK: Yups
DS: yes
YYK: things that different? Gw boleh jawab pake
Bahasa Indonesia gak?
IVP: Boleh, silahkan.
YYK: Lebih clear.
IVP: Siapa yang lebih clear?
YYK: Dia (menunjuk ke DS). Kayak dulu gw pdkt
sama mantan itu lamaaaaa banget. Kalau sama dia,
gw pdkt cuman kayak dua minggu doang. Terus
kayak udah langsung jadian. Maksud gw itu yah
kayak lebih to the point gitu. Gak pake A B C D E F
G. Jadi memang gw udah tahu intention dia dari awal
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gitu. Kayak dia juga bilang kalau mau pacaran ya
udah langsung. Jadi to the point gitu.
IVP: Oke, ada yang lain?
YYK: yah, sejauh ini mantan gw ada yang baik dan
yang buruk. Yah semua pasti ada yang begitu lah.
Cuman kalau soal pacarana memang semua orang
ada plus minusnya. Cuman yang menurut g woke sih
dari dia dari awal dia deketing gw memang… ehhhh.
Clear.
IVP: Jadi kayak lu udah paham gitu dia maunya apa?
YYK: Iya- iya… ya ngerti gitu loh.
IVP: How about you DS?
DS: What was the question again?
IVP: the difference.
DS: difference in personality?
IVP: No, more like difference between dating
someone from your country and someone from
different country?
DS: Like in dating?
IVP: Like in your relationship?
DS: ahh, in relationship. I guess I feel it more calmer
and before (his ex) is more agresive I guess. Latin
American girl is pretty aggressive I think. Like we
would fight for anything and I would say this
relationship is more calm. Like also the difference
between the environment. Like walking in the street
on Honduras, there will be a high change of guy.. just
flirting with you girl, even though you are holding
her hand. This guy like across the street you know
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will just shouting like “hey baby, would you come
with me?” like there is no respect there. So because
of that, there is always a lot of fighting. Like with her
(his ex) and the situation just not… not… not good
for a healthy relationship. And yeah, I can’t just let
someone just disrespect her like that so sometime we
can fight with that guy because of that. So yeah now
it’s very calm.
IVP: okay, maybe I will ask, DS what is your first
languages?
DS: Spanish
IVP: Ahh, Spanish.
DS: Espanyol
IVP: So English is your second languages?
DS: Yeah
IVP: Ohh okay, have you ever like
had a difficulty in communicationg
with each other?
DS: No for me no. Like she peak English very well
and yeah no…
YYK: Noo.. yeah… I understand him sometimes…
DS: hahaha, sometimes.
YYK: No, I mean (laughing) most of the times I
understand him. But, there will be some times when
he kinda confuse me. But it’s not a big deal because I
will ask him again what he mean. And he told me that
sometimes I speak to fast, so when I talk with him, I
will try to match his speed and talk slowly.
DS: But yeah, there will be times when I misspelled
something.
YYK: Mispronouce sometimes.
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DS: Like yeah, I will say the word in Spanish
because it sounds very similar to (Spanish). So yeah
my pronounce is not the best.
IVP: and how you fix that miscommunication issue?
DS: I wouldn’t say it was an issue. But, yeah one
time she got confused by what I mean and I got
confused because she didn’t understand what I mean.
So we just talk about it.
YYK: yeah I would use google translate if he can’t
understand what I mean.
IVP: How about you accent? Does it ever create
miscommunication. Maybe YYK can answer first.
YYK: Yeah, both yes and no I think. Hahahaha
(laughing). I mean his English has improve a lot from
before. But I never think his accent cause an issue.
Maybe like before, he will use like his accent and
pronounce some word wrong. But yeah, I just ask
him to repeat what he say.
DS: For me, I don’t think she has any accent. Like I
think her English is better than mine.
IVP: Have you like adjust the way you communicate
to accommodate each other?
DS: Sorry what?
IVP: Adjust the way you talk. For example talk more
slowly, or talk faster. Yeah things like that.
YYK: Ohhh! Yeah, I think I talk more calmer now,
like before I like to talk loudly. Because I think in
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general Indonesian is quite noisy. But now I think I
talk calmer, slower than before.
DS: Yeah I notice many Indonesian is really loud.
But I do think we both talk slower now, just to you
know talk better. Like we are not trying to race or
rapping.
IVP: hahaha
YYK: yeah, hahahaha.
IVP: Alright moving on to the next
question. Do you have any story
about culture shock in your
relationship. Like culture shock by
your partner.
YYK: Ahhh, you know that Indonesian love to use
aircon. when I'm together with him, he doesn't like to
use aircons. We use the, the fan.
IVP: Really, why?
DS: Yeah. Yes, again, (hahaha) we don't have such
technology. We're basically caveman. Yeah, I know
that most of the house, like, I would say, 80% of the
houses, we don't have air condition. You will only
find it on offices, actually.
IVP: Okay. How about food? I heard that for some
foreigner, Asian food can be quite something. How
about you guys? Have you ever experienced?
DS: Yeah, I know, some of my friend cannot eat that.
But yeah, actually I can eat anything.
YYK: He can spicy food too.
IVP: really that nice!
DS: Yeah, I'm being trained at first when I was dating
her at the beginning and I wouldn’t eat spicy food at
all. But I… But everything she cooks or she buys
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something it will be spicy. So I've been getting used
to it.
IVP: Okay, what are your plan for the future? And
how do you think your relationship will progress?
DS: For now, the plan is just to stay.. for me the plan
is just to stay here in Taiwan. Hopefully in 5 or 6
year move to Canada.
YYK: yeah, for now work in Taiwan.
DS: And yeah, we are gonna stay in Taiwan and see
how it goes.
IVP: Do you ever face a challenge
in your relationship? Or a hurdles.
Like… Hambatan.
YYK: Ohh yeah. Hmmmmm maybe the future?
IVP: How so?
YYK: Like what will we do for the future? Where
will we stay? And yeah things like that. But yeah, we
rather see how things goes and enjoy what we have
now.
IVP: How about you DS?
DS: yeah, yeah.. Me too, like we just enjoy what we
have now. But, in the future sometimes we think like
what will happen and yeah so many things.
IVP: Okay, next question. Do you
have any stereotype about each
other country? Maybe I will start
from DS frist. When you heard
about Indonesia what comes to your
mind?
DS: What comes to my mind when I heard Indonesia.
YYK: hahaha.
DS: Hmm, spiciness beyond my belief, weird mint
ciggarate.
IVP: How about stereotype?
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DS: Stereotype? Hmmmm… well loud. That was the
first thing I heard when I’m here in Taiwan. Like I
was in the canteen with my brother in my first year.
And there is a massive noise coming from a table. I
ignore it. But, my brother was like, see that table over
there? That’s Indonesian. They are so loud all the
time. And I was like. Ahh I see.
YYK: hahahaha.
IVP: Hahaha. Anything else?
DS: hmm what else. Ohh yeah! Your drama is
ubelievable. And also the gossip. Like if one person
know some news, hust give it some time and all the
other Indonesian will know.
IVP: Okay, so loud and… ahhh, drama
DS: yeah.
IVP: How about you YYK? Do you have any
stereotype about Honduras?
YYK: Honestly, I don’t even know anything about
Honduras. But. Yeah after going on with him, I
started to search more about the country and then I
find that there are so many criminal over there. At
first I kinda became warry of him. But soon, I realize
that him and his country is not the same. He is nice
and honest and very very kind.
DS: yeah, Honduras is a country with the highest
murder rate.
YYK: yeah, yeah, I heard that your… apa sih? Kayak
miss Indonesia gitu. Miss Honduras. She got killed
by her boyfriend.
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IVP: Does that stereotype effect you? I will start
from YYK.
YYK: No, not really. Like I don’t even know
anything about Honduras until him. But I do got quite
shock by how violence his country. But, he is very
kind, honest, and nice, so I think it’s because I know
him before know his country. So that thing doesn’t
really effect me. Sure I got warry. But, well it doesn’t
really make me… make me… scared of him?
DS: Well for me, I know about some Indonesia
before I met her. That’s why I’m quite surprise how
calm, mature, and overall very kind person. I mean
she can get loud sometime. But, I don’t think it’s
really bother me.
IVP: how about etnosentrisme,?
DS: Not really, it’s more like I know every country
have plus and minus and with Honduras, it’s really
hard to feel… proud? I mean I sure love my country.
But, all the crime is the reason I went abroad to
study. So I know well negative thing from my
country.
YYK: me neither. Rather, sometime I feel like my
country (Indonesia) is inferior. Like we have some
problem that other country doesn’t have. So yeah…
IVP: Okay moving on. Do you
have any difference in the way you
think? Like different belief?
YYK: Well, growing up I am a budhist and I follow
the Pancasila (Buddhism Pancasila) and growing up
he is a Christian.
DS: Yeah. But, i’m agnostic now.
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Different value? For example
religion and mindset.
IVP: How about you mindset and other stuff? Like
the way you both think? Does it have any difference?
DS: actually we both have quite similar mindset. Like
we are quite alike. We are both open minded and
we… yeah I think. Maybe the only difference I see is
that how we grow up. I mean in Honduras I’m not
poor. But, I don’t have the same access like her
childhood. Honduras is kinda rough like I can’t go
after 8 PM because it’s dangerous and hearing how
her growing up, visiting this country, that country,
and so many places. I understand that she is quite
rich. But, yeah still. She is very mature and calm.
Yeah it’s nice.
YYK: yeah what he say. I mean I think our biggest
issue is that how we grow up is different and
sometimes it effect how we think. Like the case of
the aircon, tab water, and yeah some other thing. I
realize that’s how he grew up and it’s not really a
problem with me.
IVP: How about different in your believe? Is it create
any problem? I
DS: No, I don’t think so, she allowed to believe what
she believe.
IVP: Ohh, dan YYK apakah dengan perbedaan
agama yang lu miliki. Kayak tadi DS bilang dia
agnostic. Apakah itu tidak masalah buat lu?
YYK: Dia respect gw sebagai Buddhist ya gw juga
respect dia sebagai agnostic. Dan diri dia sebagai
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agnostic itu bukan hal penting yang bisa menjadi
masalah buat kita. Walaupun, awalnya gw sempet
merasa khawatir juga karena kan dari dulu orang tua
ajarin keyakinan harus sama dan lain-lain. Mungkin
lebih takut apa orang tua setuju atau enggak di masa
depan dan apa yang orang lain pikirkan.
IVP: Do you interested in learning each other
languages?
DS: yeah. Actually she told me a lot of Indonesian.
Especilly swear word. So yeah I’m pretty interested
in her languages.
YYK: yeah, but we watch Netflix show money heist
and it’s in Spanish so I also want to learn it.
DS: yeah I want to learn Indonesia so I can talk to
your parents.
YYK: yeah me too. I want to talk to your family.
IVP: Okay, next I will talk about
body languages, non verbal
conversation. Is there any different
you both feel? Like maybe from
skinship, intonation, accent, and
yeah other stuff.
YYK: Well I do feel like he more like wild. I mean in
Indonesia we… ahhh… dating mean like holding
hand and yeah not really that wild I guess. Here to
put it simply like more touching and yeah (laughing)
DS: Well I just did what normal for me. Hugging,
holding hand, kissing? Yeah. She did told me it’s
kinda unsual in Indonesia. But other than toching, I
guess it’s pretty normal for both of us?
IVP: How about other stuff like intonation? Gaze?
YYK: well I do notice that his gaze is kinda strong?
Like not what I use too with my other friend.
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DS: For me not really. But, I kinda remember a funny
story that when I first hug her, she kinda become
tense? And when I kiss her, she became lika stone
and her face beat red. It’s funny because she usually
pretty calm.
YYK: (laughing) hahahaha? Really?
IVP: Hahaha.
IVP: Okay, next question what is
the difference before and after you
dating?
DS: Well before I went to study in Taiwan, I’m
quite… you know that school is not mandatory for us
back in Honduras. And now I kinda become more
serious I guess? And well that still before dating her.
But yeah, I’m trying to became more relaxed and I
quit racing… and yeah overall I thing she bring a
positive change in me.
YYK: hmmm, I notice that the world is full of
different people and yeah, he is just so different from
all my ex boyfriend.
IVP: Okay last question. How do
you intreprete your relationship
kayak gimana sih cara lu memaknai
hubungan lu saat ini?
YYK: Hmm, gw sekarang kayak lebih enjoy dengan
apa yang gw punya sekarang. Gak terlalu mikir apa
yang.. kayak apa yah.. Lanjutanya. Kayak ya enjoy
aja apa yang dipunya sekarang. Like we have fun, we
enjoy each other company. Kalau misalnya tidak
lanjut lagi gak papa dan memang kita lebih pengen
nikmati apa yang ada saat ini.
IVP: How about you DS?
DS: Hmmmmmmmmm, I guess I also enjoy this
relationship… and also I want to experience it
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without worry about the future. We are having fun
with each other, we are not really worry about the
future. Rather, we try to enjoy what we have and…
yeah just have fun.
IVP: Okay than, That is the last
question. Thank you very much for
all the information. And all best for
you.
DS: Your welcome. Glad I can help.
YYK: Good luck skripsinya nda!
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FORM KONSULTASI SKRIPSI / TUGAS AKHIR
Nim Mahasiswa: 00000026201
Nama Mahasiswa: Indakhila Vidya Putri
Program Studi: Strategic Communication
Nama Dosen Pembimbing: Dr. Bertha Sri Eko Murtiningsih, M.Si
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