NFPA Technical Committee on Marine Fire Fighting Vessels
-
Upload
khangminh22 -
Category
Documents
-
view
0 -
download
0
Transcript of NFPA Technical Committee on Marine Fire Fighting Vessels
NFPA Technical Committee on Marine Fire Fighting Vessels
NFPA 1910 (NFPA 1925) First Draft Meeting AGENDA
February 10, 2021
10:00 AM Start Time (ET)
I. Chair Jeffery McBride calls meeting to order on February 10th, 2021.
II. Welcome and Opening Remarks.
III. Introduction of attendees (Attachment A).
IV. Approval of minutes from the previous meeting (Attachment B).
V. Address submitted public inputs and develop any first revisions (Attachment C)
VI. Old business:β’ Recap on process items.
VII. New business:
a. Task Groups for SDM
b. NFPA 1925 alignment
VIII. Date and location of next meeting.
IX. Adjournment.
1
Address List No PhoneMarine Fire Fighting Vessels MAS-AAA
Ken Holland01/11/2021
MAS-AAA
Jeffery P. McBride
ChairEBL Engineers, LLCEBL Fire Engineering8005 Harford RoadBaltimore, MD 21234-5701
SE 9/30/2004MAS-AAA
V Frank Bateman
PrincipalICL Phos-Chek Performance Products LP1137 Rainbow DriveMartinez, CA 94553-4741
M 11/30/2016
MAS-AAA
William Richard Buck
PrincipalPort of Houston Fire Department302 Dogwood AvenueDickinson, TX 77539
E 08/03/2016MAS-AAA
Anthony R. Carli
PrincipalEverett Fire DepartmentChief384 BroadwayEverett, MA 02149
U 7/23/2008
MAS-AAA
Richard E. Chester, Jr.
PrincipalSeattle Fire Department925 Alaskan WaySeattle, WA 98104
U 4/3/2003MAS-AAA
Peter J. Duclos
PrincipalGladding-Hearn, Duclos Corporation1 Riverside Avenue, Box 300Somerset, MA 02725
M 9/30/2004
MAS-AAA
Ralph Enderle
PrincipalLos Angeles Fire Department17355 Rayen StreetSherwood Forest, CA 91325
U 04/11/2018MAS-AAA
Patrick T. Ginnaty-Moore
PrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062Alternate: James E. Johannessen
RT 08/17/2018
MAS-AAA
John J. McDevitt
Principal440 Hampshire RoadDrexel Hill, PA 19026
C 3/21/2006MAS-AAA
Carl J. Micu
PrincipalJohn Deere Power Systems3801 West Ridgeway AvenuePO Box 5100Waterloo, IA 50704-5100
M 3/21/2006
MAS-AAA
Derek J. Noon
PrincipalRobert Allan Ltd.1639 West 2nd AvenueSuite 230Vancouver, BC V6J 1H3 CanadaAlternate: Robert G. Allan
SE 3/4/2008MAS-AAA
Jonathan G. Parrott
PrincipalJensen Maritime Consultants, Inc.1102 SW Massachusetts StreetSeattle, WA 98134-1030Alternate: Melissa L. Hertel
SE 7/26/2007
MAS-AAA
Charles J. Popp, III
PrincipalBoston Fire Department59 Brock StreetBrighton, MA 02135
U 04/05/2016MAS-AAA
William B. Robbins
PrincipalNew England Marine Survey, LLC302 Plains RoadHaddam, CT 06438
SE 10/27/2009
1
Address List No PhoneMarine Fire Fighting Vessels MAS-AAA
Ken Holland01/11/2021
MAS-AAA
Manuel Silva
PrincipalJohnson Controls1467 Elmwood AvenueCranston, RI 02910-3849Alternate: Frank Velardi
M 08/17/2017MAS-AAA
Kenison Lee Tejada
PrincipalFirstNet Authority12201 Sunrise Valley DriveMail Stop 243Reston, VA 20192
U 04/02/2020
MAS-AAA
Donald H. J. Turno
PrincipalSavannah River Nuclear Solutions, LLC142 Dalmatian DriveAiken, SC 29803-5024
U 10/23/2003MAS-AAA
Jeff Vanmeter
PrincipalIDEX Corp/Hale Products607 NW 27th AvenueOcala, FL 34475
M 08/11/2020
MAS-AAA
Robert G. Allan
AlternateRobert Allan Ltd.1639 West 2nd AvenueSuite 230Vancouver, BC V6J 1H3 CanadaPrincipal: Derek J. Noon
SE 7/14/2004MAS-AAA
Melissa L. Hertel
AlternateJensen Maritime Consultants, Inc.1102 SW Massachusetts StSeattle, WA 98134Principal: Jonathan G. Parrott
SE 7/26/2007
MAS-AAA
James E. Johannessen
AlternateUL LLC141 Northridge AvenueLandisville, PA 17538-1914Principal: Patrick T. Ginnaty-Moore
RT 08/17/2018MAS-AAA
Frank Velardi
AlternateJohnson Controls100 Lighting Way, 4th FloorSecaucus, NJ 07094Principal: Manuel Silva
M 08/11/2020
MAS-AAA
Ken Holland
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection AssociationOne Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
5/26/2020
2
WEB CONFERENCE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON MARINE FIRE FIGHTING VESSELS
NFPA 1925 Second Draft Meeting - Web Conference
May 17, 2017
MINUTES
Wednesday, May 17, 2016, Start Time 1:00 p.m. ET
1. Roll call of members, self-introduction of guests. Members attending:
Jeffery McBride, Chair EBL Engineers William Buck Port of Houston FD Carl Micu John Deere Power Systems Derek Noon Robert Allan Ltd. Jonathan Parrott Jensen Maritime Consultants, Inc. Charles Popp III Boston FD William Robbins New England Marine Survey, LLC
Dave Trebisacci NFPA Staff
2. Dave Trebisacci provided the staff liaison report and reviewed the process for reviewing Public Comments,creating Second Revisions. Dave also provided an overview of the revision cycle (F17) for NFPA 1925.
3. Jeff McBride provided welcoming remarks.
4. The Minutes of the May 3, 2016 meeting NFPA, Quincy, MA (attached) were approved. Motion to accept, JeffMcBride; second by Jonathan Parrott. Motion carried without discussion.
5. No Public Comments were received on NFPA 1925. Chairman McBride provided a change to Sections10.6 and A.10.6, and Second Revisions were created (See Second Draft report).
6. There was no old business.
7. There was no new business.
8. Upcoming Meetings - NFPA 1925 next cycle is F2022. The First Draft meeting will be in the January toJune, 2021 window.
9. The meeting was adjourned at 2:00 p.m. on Wednesday, May 17, 2017.
Public Input No. 215-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 33.5 ]
33.5 Nameplates Labels and Instruction Plates.
33.5.1
All labels and marking shall be of a type permanent in nature, shall be capable of withstandingthe effects of extreme weather and temperature, and shall be attached in a manner thatrequires mechanical means to remove.
33.5.2
A nameplate label shall be provided for each control, gauge, and indicator that is clearlymarked with the identification and function of that device.
33.5.3
An instruction plate shall be provided for the foam-proportioning system that includes, as aminimum, a piping schematic of the system and basic operation instructions.
33.5.3.1
Foam concentrate trade names shall not be substituted for foam solution percentage ratios oninstruction plates.
33.5.4
A label that reads βFoam Tank Fillβ shall be provided at any foam tank fill opening and shallindicate the type and proportioning percentage of concentrate required.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Per the definitions and consistent usage in NFPA 1901/1906/1917/1900, the NFPA Glossary of Terms, and other NFPA documents:A Label gives identification or informationAn Instruction Plate gives instructionsA Sign gives a warning.NFPA 1910 should use the same terminology as NFPA 1900 and other NFPA documents use about these items when the apparatus is built.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Oct 30 16:05:58 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
1 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 111-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 35.2.5.1 ]
35.2.5.1
Detectors shall be located in accordance with NFPA 72, NFPA 720, and NFPA 302.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
NFPA 720 was withdrawn in 2018 and incorporated into NFPA 72.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Affiliation: Admin Task Group
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Sep 07 17:03:09 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
2 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 112-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 36.1.1 ]
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
3 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
36.1.1
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
4 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Firefighting equipment that is specified in this chapter and required for a given class of vesselshall be supplied and mounted or stowed as per the AHJ prior to the vessel being placed inoperation in accordance with Table 36.1.1(a) and Table 36.1.1(b).
Table 36.1.1(a) Firefighting Equipment (U.S. Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Line gun 1 1 1
Pry bar 2 6 ft 2 6 ft 2 6 ft 1Optional/Length
per AHJ1
Optional/Lper AH
Bolt cutter 1 24 in. 1 24 in. 1 24 in. 1 24 in. 1 24 in
Pike pole 2 15 ft 2 15 ft 2 15 ft 1 10 ft or 6 ft 1 6 ft or lo
2 6 ft 2 6 ft 2 6 ft
Scoop shovel 2 2 2 1
Adjustablehydrantwrench
2 2 2 1
Sprinklershutoff/wedge
4 4 4 2
Utility rope 2 100 ft 2 100 ft 2 100 ft 1 100 ft 1 100 f
Floatingstretcher withharness
2 2 2 1
Portableextinguisher
42-A:20-
B:C4
2-A:20-B:C
42-A:20-
B:C1 2-A:20-B:C 1 2-A:10-
Dry chemicalextinguisher
2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 1 80-B:C 1 80-B:
Electricalextensioncords
2 100 ft 2 100 ft 2 100 ft 1 50 ft
Flathead axe 1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb
Pick headaxe
1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb Optionalper AHJ
Halligan toolsor equivalent
2 6 lb 2 6 lb 2 6 lb 1 6 lb
Spannerwrench
8 8 8 4
Sledgehammer
1 10 lb 1 10 lb 1 10 lb 1 10 lb
Grapplinghook
2 2 2 1
Ropes inthrow bag
2 75 ft 2 75 ft 2 75 ft 1 75 ft 1 75 ft
Heaving line 2 75 ft 2 75 ft 2 75 ft 1 75 ft
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
5 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
NFPA 19832500 lifesafety rope
1 100 ft 1 100 ft 1 100 ft Optionalper AHJ
Jet siphons 221β2 in. to31β2 in. or
larger2
21β2 in. to31β2 in. or
larger2
21β2 in. to31β2 in. or
larger
Optionalper AHJ
2
11β2in.to
21β2in.
2
11β2in.to
21β2in.
2
11β2in.to
21β2in.
111β2 in.to 21β2
in.
Positivepressure fan(portable)
2Size per
AHJ2
Size perAHJ
2Size per
AHJ N/A
Gasoline-poweredchain saw
1 1 1
Portableoxygen gascutting set orequal
1 1 1
Hydraulicrescue tool
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
Optionalper AHJ
N/A = Not applicable.
Table 36.1.1(b) Firefighting Equipment (SI Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Line gun 1 1 1
Pry bar 2 1.8 m 2 1.8 m 2 1.8 m 1Optional/Length
per AHJ1
Optional/Lengthper AHJ
Bolt cutter 1 610 mm 1 610 mm 1 610 mm 1 610 mm 1 610 mm
Pike pole 2 4.5 m 2 4.5 m 2 4.5 m 1 3 m or
21.8m
21.8m
21.8m
1.8 m
Scoopshovel
2 2 2 1
Adjustablehydrantwrench
2 2 2 1
Sprinklershutoff/wedge
4 4 4 2
Utility rope 2 30 m 2 30 m 2 30 m 1 30 m 1 30 m
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
6 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Floatingstretcherwithharness
2 2 2 1
Portableextinguisher
42-A:20-
B:C4
2-A:20-B:C
42-A:20-
B:C1 2-A:20-B:C 1
2-A:10-B:C
Drychemicalextinguisher
2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 1 80-B:C 1 80-B:C
Electricalextensioncords
2 30 m 2 30 m 2 30 m 1 15 m Oppe
Flatheadaxe
1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg
Pick headaxe
1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg Optionalper AHJ
Halligantools orequivalent
2 2.7 kg 2 2.7 kg 2 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg Oppe
Spannerwrench
8 8 8 4
Sledgehammer
1 4.5 kg 1 4.5 kg 1 4.5 kg 1 4.5 kg Oppe
Grapplinghook
2 2 2 1
Ropes inthrow bag
2 23 m 2 23 m 2 23 m 1 23 m 1 23 m
Heaving line 2 23 m 2 23 m 2 23 m 1 23 m Oppe
NFPA 19832500 lifesafety rope
1 30 m 1 30 m 1 30 m Optionalper AHJ
Jet siphons 2
65 mmto 90
mm orlarger
2
65 mmto 90
mm orlarger
2
65 mmto 90
mm orlarger
165 mm to 90
mm or larger or
Oppe
2
38mmto65mm
2
38mmto65mm
2
38mmto65mm
138 mmto 65mm
Positivepressure fan(portable)
2Size per
AHJ2
Size perAHJ
2Size per
AHJ N/A
Gasoline-poweredchain saw
1 1 1
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
7 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Portableoxygen gascutting setor equal
1 1 1
Hydraulicrescue tool
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
Optionalper AHJ
N/A = Not applicable.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Update due to document consolidation.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Affiliation: Admin Task Group
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Sep 07 17:06:12 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
8 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 184-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 36.1.1 ]
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
9 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
36.1.1
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
10 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Firefighting equipment that is specified in this chapter and required for a given class of vesselshall be supplied and mounted or stowed as per the AHJ prior to the vessel being placed inoperation in accordance with Table 36.1.1(a) and Table 36.1.1(b).
Table 36.1.1(a) Firefighting Equipment (U.S. Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Line gun 1 1 1
Pry bar 2 6 ft 2 6 ft 2 6 ft 1Optional/Length
per AHJ1
Optional/Lper AH
Bolt cutter 1 24 in. 1 24 in. 1 24 in. 1 24 in. 1 24 in
Pike pole 2 15 ft 2 15 ft 2 15 ft 1 10 ft or 6 ft 1 6 ft or lo
2 6 ft 2 6 ft 2 6 ft
Scoop shovel 2 2 2 1
Adjustablehydrantwrench
2 2 2 1
Sprinklershutoff/wedge
4 4 4 2
Utility rope 2 100 ft 2 100 ft 2 100 ft 1 100 ft 1 100 f
Floatingstretcher withharness
2 2 2 1
Portableextinguisher
42-A:20-
B:C4
2-A:20-B:C
42-A:20-
B:C1 2-A:20-B:C 1 2-A:10-
Dry chemicalextinguisher
2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 1 80-B:C 1 80-B:
Electricalextensioncords
2 100 ft 2 100 ft 2 100 ft 1 50 ft
Flathead axe 1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb
Pick headaxe
1 6 lb 1 6 lb 1 6 lb Optionalper AHJ
Halligan toolsor equivalent
2 6 lb 2 6 lb 2 6 lb 1 6 lb
Spannerwrench
8 8 8 4
Sledgehammer
1 10 lb 1 10 lb 1 10 lb 1 10 lb
Grapplinghook
2 2 2 1
Ropes inthrow bag
2 75 ft 2 75 ft 2 75 ft 1 75 ft 1 75 ft
Heaving line 2 75 ft 2 75 ft 2 75 ft 1 75 ft
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
11 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
NFPA 1983life safetyrope
1 100 ft 1 100 ft 1 100 ft Optionalper AHJ
Jet siphons 221β2 in. to31β2 in. or
larger2
21β2 in. to31β2 in. or
larger2
21β2 in. to31β2 in. or
larger
Optionalper AHJ
2
11β2in.to
21β2in.
2
11β2in.to
21β2in.
2
11β2in.to
21β2in.
111β2 in.to 21β2
in.
PositiveNegativepressure fan(portable)
2Size per
AHJ2
Size perAHJ
2Size per
AHJ N/A
Gasoline-poweredchain saw
1 1 1
Portableoxygen gascutting set orequal
1 1 1
Hydraulicrescue tool
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
Optionalper AHJ
N/A = Not applicable.
Table 36.1.1(b) Firefighting Equipment (SI Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Line gun 1 1 1
Pry bar 2 1.8 m 2 1.8 m 2 1.8 m 1Optional/Length
per AHJ1
Optional/Lengthper AHJ
Bolt cutter 1 610 mm 1 610 mm 1 610 mm 1 610 mm 1 610 mm
Pike pole 2 4.5 m 2 4.5 m 2 4.5 m 1 3 m or
21.8m
21.8m
21.8m
1.8 m
Scoopshovel
2 2 2 1
Adjustablehydrantwrench
2 2 2 1
Sprinklershutoff/wedge
4 4 4 2
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
12 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Utility rope 2 30 m 2 30 m 2 30 m 1 30 m 1 30 m
Floatingstretcherwithharness
2 2 2 1
Portableextinguisher
42-A:20-
B:C4
2-A:20-B:C
42-A:20-
B:C1 2-A:20-B:C 1
2-A:10-B:C
Drychemicalextinguisher
2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 2 80-B:C 1 80-B:C 1 80-B:C
Electricalextensioncords
2 30 m 2 30 m 2 30 m 1 15 m Oppe
Flatheadaxe
1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg
Pick headaxe
1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg Optionalper AHJ
Halligantools orequivalent
2 2.7 kg 2 2.7 kg 2 2.7 kg 1 2.7 kg Oppe
Spannerwrench
8 8 8 4
Sledgehammer
1 4.5 kg 1 4.5 kg 1 4.5 kg 1 4.5 kg Oppe
Grapplinghook
2 2 2 1
Ropes inthrow bag
2 23 m 2 23 m 2 23 m 1 23 m 1 23 m
Heaving line 2 23 m 2 23 m 2 23 m 1 23 m Oppe
NFPA 1983life safetyrope
1 30 m 1 30 m 1 30 m Optionalper AHJ
Jet siphons 2
65 mmto 90
mm orlarger
2
65 mmto 90
mm orlarger
2
65 mmto 90
mm orlarger
165 mm to 90
mm or larger or
Oppe
2
38mmto65mm
2
38mmto65mm
2
38mmto65mm
138 mmto 65mm
PositiveNegativepressure fan(portable)
2Size per
AHJ2
Size perAHJ
2Size per
AHJ N/A
Gasoline-poweredchain saw
1 1 1
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
13 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Portableoxygen gascutting setor equal
1 1 1
Hydraulicrescue tool
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
1
Gaspowered
ormanuallyoperated
Optionalper AHJ
N/A = Not applicable.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Shipboard firefighting needs negative pressure fans. Positive pressure fans can be applied in certain applications, but the ideal would be negative pressure. Including both would be optimal, but if only 1 was to be included, the most desirable one would be negative.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Andrew Doyle
Organization: Baltimore City Fire Department
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Oct 15 11:52:54 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
14 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 113-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 36.1.3 ]
36.1.3
All fire service equipment required by this chapter and Table 31.1 shall meet the requirementsof NFPA standards for the particular type of equipment as identified as follows:
(1) NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers
(2) NFPA 1931, Standard for Manufacturer's Design of Fire Department Ground Ladders
(3) NFPA 1961, Standard on Fire Hose
(4) NFPA 1963, Standard for Fire Hose Connections
(5) NFPA 1964, Standard for Spray Nozzles
(6) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) forEmergency Services
(7) NFPA 1983, Standard on Operations and Training for Technical Search and RescueIncidents and Life Safety Rope and Equipment for Emergency Services
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Update due to document consolidation.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Affiliation: Admin Task Group
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Sep 07 17:08:47 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
15 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 186-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 36.3.1 ]
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
16 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
36.3.1 Fire Hose.
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
17 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
All fire hose shall be in accordance with Table 36.3.1(a) or Table 36.3.1(b) and shall meet therequirements of NFPA 1961.
Table 36.3.1(a) Fire Hoses, Fittings and Appliances (U.S. Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Large-diameterhose
600ft
31β2 in. orlarger
600ft
31β2in. orlarger
400ft
31β2in. orlarger
200ft
31β2in. orlarger
N/A
Attack hose(large)
600ft
21β2 in. or3 in.
600ft
21β2in. or3 in.
400ft
21β2in. or3 in.
200ft
21β2in. or3 in.
N/A
Attack hose(small)
600ft
11β2 in.,13β4 in., or
2 in.
600ft
11β2in.,13β4
in., or2 in.
400ft
11β2in.,13β4
in., or2 in.
200ft
11β2in.,13β4
in., or2 in.
200ft
11β2in.,13β4in.,or 2in.
Combinationnozzle withshutoff
4 21β2 in. 4 21β2in.
4 21β2in.
2 21β2in.
2
11β2in. or21β2in.
4 11β2 in. 4 11β2in.
4 11β2in.
2 11β2in.
N/A
Cellar ordistributornozzle
2 21β2 in. 2 21β2in.
2 21β2in.
1 21β2in.
N/A
Foameductor withmatchingnozzle(portable)
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
N/
Opt. perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt. per
AHJ N/A
Couplings:
Double male 2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2
Sameas
TypeI
2
Sameas
TypeI
2
Sameas
TypeI
N/A
Doublefemale
2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2
Sameas
TypeI
2
Sameas
TypeI
2
Sameas
TypeI
N/A
Doublemales
2 21β2 in. 2 21β2in.
2 21β2in.
2 21β2in.
Consistentwith hoseused
Doublefemales
2 21β2 in. 2 21β2in.
2 21β2in.
2 21β2in.
Consistentwith hoseused
Reducers:
Large-diameter to21β2 in.
2 2 2 1 N/
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
18 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
21β2 in. to 11β2in.
2 2 2 1 N/
Increasers:
21β2 in. tolarge-diameter
2 2 2 1 N/
Wyes:
21β2 in. Γ 11β2in. Γ 11β2 in.gated
2 2 2 1 N/
21β2 in. gated 2 2 2 1 N/
Large-diameter to2β21β2 in.gated
1 1 1 N/A N/
21β2 in. plug(malethread)
2 2 2 1 N/
21β2 in. cap(femalethread)
2 2 2 1 N/
21β2 in.Siamese
2 2 1 N/A N/
Internationalshoreconnection
2 2 2 1 N/
N/A = Not applicable.
Table 36.3.1(b) Fire Hoses, Fittings and Appliances (SI Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
QtySize(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm)
Large-diameterhose
180m
90 orlarger
180m
90 orlarger
120m
90 orlarger
60m
90 orlarger
N/A
Attack hose(large)
180m
65 or 76180m
65 or76
120m
65 or76
60m
65 or76
N/A
Attack hose(small)
180m
38, 45, or50
180m
38,45, or
50
120m
38,45, or
50
60m
38,45, 50
60m
38,45, 50
Combinationnozzle withshutoff
4 65 4 65 4 65 2 65 238 or
65
4 38 4 38 4 38 2 38 N/A
Cellar ordistributornozzle
2 65 2 65 2 65 1 65 N/A
Foameductor withmatching
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
N/A
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
19 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
QtySize(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm)
nozzle(portable)
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
N/A
Couplings:
Double male 2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
N/A
Doublefemale
2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
N/A
Doublemales
2 65 2 65 2 65 2 65 Consistentwith hoseused
Doublefemales
2 65 2 65 2 65 2 65 Consistentwith hoseused
Reducers:
Large-diameter to65 mm
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mm to 38mm
2 2 2 1 N/A
Increasers:
65 mm tolarge-diameter
2 2 2 1 N/A
Wyes:
65 mm Γ 38mm Γ 38mm gated
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mmgated
2 2 2 1 N/A
Large-diameter to50β65 mmgated
1 1 1 N/A N/A
65 mm plug(malethread)
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mm cap(femalethread)
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mmSiamese
2 2 1 N/A N/A
Internationalshoreconnection
2 2 2 1 N/A
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
20 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
N/A = Not applicable.
Add a piercing nozzle for at least Type I, II and III. This nozzle can be useful in shipbaordfirefighting.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Add a piercing nozzle for at least Type I, II and III. This nozzle can be useful in shipbaord firefighting.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Andrew Doyle
Organization: Baltimore City Fire Department
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Oct 15 11:58:22 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
21 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 190-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 36.3.1 ]
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
22 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
36.3.1 Fire Hose.
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
23 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
All fire hose shall be in accordance with Table 36.3.1(a) or Table 36.3.1(b) and shall meet therequirements of NFPA 1961.
Table 36.3.1(a) Fire Hoses, Fittings and Appliances (U.S. Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
Large-diameterSupplyhose
600ft
3 1 β 2in 3 in . or
larger
600ft
3 1 β 2in 3 in .
orlarger
400ft
3 1 β 2in 3 in .
orlarger
200ft
3 1 β 2in 3 in .
orlarger
N/A
Attack hose(large)
600ft
21β2 in. or3 in.
600ft
21β2 in.or 3in.
400ft
21β2 in.or 3in.
200ft
21β2 in.or 3in.
N/A
Attack hose(small)
600ft
11β2 in.,13β4 in., or
2 in.
600ft
11β2 in.,13β4 in.,or 2 in.
400ft
11β2 in.,13β4 in.,or 2 in.
200ft
11β2 in.,13β4 in.,or 2 in.
200ft
11β2in.,13β4in.,or 2in.
Combinationnozzle withshutoff
4 21β2 in. 4 21β2 in. 4 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. 2
11β2in. or21β2in.
4 11β2 in. 4 11β2 in. 4 11β2 in. 2 11β2 in. N/A
Cellar ordistributornozzle
2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. 1 21β2 in. N/A
Foameductor withmatchingnozzle(portable)
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt. perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt. per
AHJ N/A
Couplings:
Double male 2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
N/A
Doublefemale
2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
N/A
Doublemales
2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. Consistentwith hoseused
Doublefemales
2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. 2 21β2 in. Consistentwith hoseused
Reducers:
Large-diameter to21β2 in.
2 2 2 1
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
24 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size Qty Size
21β2 in. to 11β2in.
2 2 2 1
Increasers:
21β2 in. tolarge-diameter
2 2 2 1
Wyes:
21β2 in. Γ 11β2in. Γ 11β2 in.gated
2 2 2 1
21β2 in. gated 2 2 2 1
Large-diameter to2β21β2 in.gated
1 1 1 N/A
21β2 in. plug(malethread)
2 2 2 1
21β2 in. cap(femalethread)
2 2 2 1
21β2 in.Siamese
2 2 1 N/A
Internationalshoreconnection
2 2 2 1
N/A = Not applicable.
Table 36.3.1(b) Fire Hoses, Fittings and Appliances (SI Units)
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
QtySize(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm)
Large-diameterhose
180m
90 orlarger
180m
90 orlarger
120m
90 orlarger
60m
90 orlarger
N/A
Attack hose(large)
180m
65 or 76180m
65 or76
120m
65 or76
60m
65 or76
N/A
Attack hose(small)
180m
38, 45, or50
180m
38,45, or
50
120m
38,45, or
50
60m
38,45, 50
60m
38,45, 50
Combinationnozzle withshutoff
4 65 4 65 4 65 2 65 238 or
65
4 38 4 38 4 38 2 38 N/A
Cellar ordistributornozzle
2 65 2 65 2 65 1 65 N/A
Foameductor withmatching
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
N/A
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
25 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Equipment
Type I Type II Type III Type IV Type V
QtySize(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm) Qty
Size(mm)
nozzle(portable)
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
Opt.perAHJ
N/A
Couplings:
Double male 2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
N/A
Doublefemale
2
Consistentwith large-diameterhose used
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
2Same
asType I
N/A
Doublemales
2 65 2 65 2 65 2 65 Consistentwith hoseused
Doublefemales
2 65 2 65 2 65 2 65 Consistentwith hoseused
Reducers:
Large-diameter to65 mm
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mm to 38mm
2 2 2 1 N/A
Increasers:
65 mm tolarge-diameter
2 2 2 1 N/A
Wyes:
65 mm Γ 38mm Γ 38mm gated
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mmgated
2 2 2 1 N/A
Large-diameter to50β65 mmgated
1 1 1 N/A N/A
65 mm plug(malethread)
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mm cap(femalethread)
2 2 2 1 N/A
65 mmSiamese
2 2 1 N/A N/A
Internationalshoreconnection
2 2 2 1 N/A
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
26 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
N/A = Not applicable.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Some settings still use 3" hose as supply hose due to its maneuverability and the its weight. Some LDH is too heavy for piers or moving through other vessel. Having 3" as the minimum allows to stretch supply hose that can be more effective and safer.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Andrew Doyle
Organization: Baltimore City Fire Department
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Oct 15 12:12:58 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
27 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 187-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 36.6 ]
36.6* Medical and First Aid Equipment.
All vessels shall carry basic medical and first-aid supplies as specified by the AHJ andcoordinated with the user, as applicable, based on the intended use and mission of the vessel.Minimum medical and first aid equipment requirements see 41.13.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Section 41.13 denotes what minimum medical and first aid equipment should be carried. The change is to reference that standard so there is no confusion about minimum medical and first aid equipment.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Andrew Doyle
Organization: Baltimore City Fire Department
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Oct 15 12:03:20 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
28 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 114-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 38.2.1 ]
38.2.1
Outboard engines shall be permitted to be gasoline fueled and shall comply with ABYC H-26,Powering of Boats; ABYC S TH -12 , Outboard Motor Transom and Motor WellDimensions Outboard Engine Mounting Guide ; and ABYC S-30, Outboard Engine and RelatedEquipment Weights.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
ABYC S-12 was withdrawn and replaced with ABYC TH-12.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Affiliation: Admin Task Group
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Sep 07 17:31:15 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
29 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 115-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 38.2.4 ]
38.2.4
Mountings of the outboard engines and fit of the outboard(s) with a transom shall comply withABYC S TH -12, Outboard Motor Transom and Motor Well Dimensions Engine Mounting Guide .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
ABYC S-12 was withdrawn and replaces with ABYC TH-12.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Affiliation: Admin Task Group
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Sep 07 17:34:05 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
30 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 188-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 41.14.2 ]
41.14.2
Where a davit or mechanized crane is fitted, it shall have a minimum safe working load of 500 lb(227 kg), at full horizontal extension. Davits shall be maintained in accordance with Chapter18.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The proper care and maintenance of davits are important. Chapter 18 - Winches, should be revised to include the proper care and maintenance of davits as well to ensure they are fully mission capable.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Andrew Doyle
Organization: Baltimore City Fire Department
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Oct 15 12:06:59 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
31 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 189-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 42.1.2.1 ]
42.1.2.1
All Type I through Type IV vessels shall be equipped with at least two fixed-mount, 25 watt,VHF-FM radios.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Provides for the vessels to have more than the standard is the owner desires.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Andrew Doyle
Organization: Baltimore City Fire Department
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Oct 15 12:08:50 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
32 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 116-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. 45.4 ]
45.4 Delivery Documentation.
The builder shall supply no fewer than two copies of the following documentation at the time ofdelivery:
(1) Copy of test and trials report
(2) Full set of original equipment manufacturerβs manuals
(3) The edition of NFPA 1925 1910 to which the vessel was constructed
(4) The original classification of the vessel in accordance with the types of marine firefightingvessels listed in Chapter 31
(5) A list of basic equipment and related items required by the classification as found in Table36.1.1(a) [or Table 36.1.1(b)] and Table 36.3.1(a) [or Table 36.3.1(b)]
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Update due to document consolidation.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Affiliation: Admin Task Group
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Sep 07 17:38:33 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
33 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 152-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. A.34.1 ]
A.34.1
It is the responsibility of the purchaser to provide the contractor with sufficient information toenable the contractor to prepare a bid and a complete description of the apparatus thecontractor proposes to supply. Completion of the Apparatus Purchasing Specification Form inAnnex B E of NFPA 1901 1900 should provide the information required in the various sectionsof this document.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Update due to document consolidation.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Affiliation: Admin Task Group
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Sep 08 17:19:48 EDT 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
34 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM
Public Input No. 229-NFPA 1910-2020 [ Section No. A.34.1 ]
A.34 30 .1 3.2
It is the responsibility of the purchaser to provide the contractor with sufficient information toenable the contractor to prepare a bid and a complete description of the apparatus thecontractor proposes to supply. Completion of the The Apparatus Purchasing SpecificationForm in Annex B of NFPA 1901 should provide the information required in the various sectionsof this document E of NFPA 1900 might raise some other issues to consider while specifying afirefighting vessel .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Move section. 34.1 deals with Personnel Training and this annex item has nothing to do with personnel training. Section 30.3.2 deals with the Determination of Needs Study and references Annex H which is somewhat similar in intent to 1900 Annex E.Revise wording. NFPA 1900 Annex E deals with the specification process and requirements for automotive fire apparatus. While it might raise some issues that should be considered in specifying a firefighting vessel, it is not accurate to say that it will "provide information required in the various sections of this document." This wording was lifted from NFPA 1900 and needs to be modified for this document.NOTE: NEED TO MOVE * FROM 34.1 TO 30.3.2.NOTE: ANNEX E WILL PROBABLY GET RE-LETTERED IN THE FIRST DRAFT PROCESS.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Stalnaker
Organization: Goshen Fire Company
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Nov 02 10:22:57 EST 2020
Committee: MAS-AAA
National Fire Protection Association Report https://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPar...
35 of 35 1/11/2021, 12:57 PM