Zeus komoidos (Slides from an APA Seattle talk January 4, 2013)
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Zeus ΚΩΜΩΙΔΟΣ Zeus’ comic roles from Cratinus to Lucian (and beyond) Jeffrey Rusten, Cornell University American Philological Association Presidential Panel Annual Meeting, Seattle January 4, 2013
Transcript of Zeus komoidos (Slides from an APA Seattle talk January 4, 2013)
Zeus ΚΩΜΩΙΔΟΣ
Zeusrsquo comic roles from Cratinus to Lucian (and beyond)
Jeffrey Rusten Cornell University
American Philological Association Presidential Panel Annual Meeting Seattle
January 4 2013
Most glorious of the immortals invoked by many names ever all-powerful
Zeus the First Cause of Nature who rules all things with Law
Hail It is right for mortals to call upon you since from you we have our being we whose lot it is
to be Gods image we alone of all mortal creatures that live and move
upon the earth Accordingly I will praise you with my hymn and ever
sing of your might
CLEANTHESrsquo HYMN TO ZEUS
Tr M A C Ellery
Silver Tetradrachm of Alexander the Great Kunsthistorisches Museum Vienna
PHIDIASrsquo ZEUS AT OLYMPIA
As Tyrant and usurper --Paranoia (Metis) --Sexual predator (Aristotle to Machiavelli) --Cruelty (Prometheus Ixion) As Father of gods and men --Advisor and umpire --Husband As Monarch --Hearer of petitions renderer of decisions (Thetis) --Punisher of crimes (Odyssey opening) Lloyd-Jones Justice of Zeus (Solon WD) --Has policies (boulai in Iliad and Cypria) that he tries to carry out --Unique no partner or equal Self-conscious and reflective As Political-Philosophical-Religious model and concept --Political hellenistic kings and Roman emperors (Callimachus Dio Chrysostom) --Philosophical pronoia and control (Stoic especially) --Religious fate
ZEUSrsquo IDENTITIES
Zeusrsquo roles in three comic genres --Drama (old and middle comedy) --Art (southern Italian vases) --Dialogue (Lucian)
The comic tyrant
Cratinus Pericles amp Zeus
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Most glorious of the immortals invoked by many names ever all-powerful
Zeus the First Cause of Nature who rules all things with Law
Hail It is right for mortals to call upon you since from you we have our being we whose lot it is
to be Gods image we alone of all mortal creatures that live and move
upon the earth Accordingly I will praise you with my hymn and ever
sing of your might
CLEANTHESrsquo HYMN TO ZEUS
Tr M A C Ellery
Silver Tetradrachm of Alexander the Great Kunsthistorisches Museum Vienna
PHIDIASrsquo ZEUS AT OLYMPIA
As Tyrant and usurper --Paranoia (Metis) --Sexual predator (Aristotle to Machiavelli) --Cruelty (Prometheus Ixion) As Father of gods and men --Advisor and umpire --Husband As Monarch --Hearer of petitions renderer of decisions (Thetis) --Punisher of crimes (Odyssey opening) Lloyd-Jones Justice of Zeus (Solon WD) --Has policies (boulai in Iliad and Cypria) that he tries to carry out --Unique no partner or equal Self-conscious and reflective As Political-Philosophical-Religious model and concept --Political hellenistic kings and Roman emperors (Callimachus Dio Chrysostom) --Philosophical pronoia and control (Stoic especially) --Religious fate
ZEUSrsquo IDENTITIES
Zeusrsquo roles in three comic genres --Drama (old and middle comedy) --Art (southern Italian vases) --Dialogue (Lucian)
The comic tyrant
Cratinus Pericles amp Zeus
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Silver Tetradrachm of Alexander the Great Kunsthistorisches Museum Vienna
PHIDIASrsquo ZEUS AT OLYMPIA
As Tyrant and usurper --Paranoia (Metis) --Sexual predator (Aristotle to Machiavelli) --Cruelty (Prometheus Ixion) As Father of gods and men --Advisor and umpire --Husband As Monarch --Hearer of petitions renderer of decisions (Thetis) --Punisher of crimes (Odyssey opening) Lloyd-Jones Justice of Zeus (Solon WD) --Has policies (boulai in Iliad and Cypria) that he tries to carry out --Unique no partner or equal Self-conscious and reflective As Political-Philosophical-Religious model and concept --Political hellenistic kings and Roman emperors (Callimachus Dio Chrysostom) --Philosophical pronoia and control (Stoic especially) --Religious fate
ZEUSrsquo IDENTITIES
Zeusrsquo roles in three comic genres --Drama (old and middle comedy) --Art (southern Italian vases) --Dialogue (Lucian)
The comic tyrant
Cratinus Pericles amp Zeus
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
As Tyrant and usurper --Paranoia (Metis) --Sexual predator (Aristotle to Machiavelli) --Cruelty (Prometheus Ixion) As Father of gods and men --Advisor and umpire --Husband As Monarch --Hearer of petitions renderer of decisions (Thetis) --Punisher of crimes (Odyssey opening) Lloyd-Jones Justice of Zeus (Solon WD) --Has policies (boulai in Iliad and Cypria) that he tries to carry out --Unique no partner or equal Self-conscious and reflective As Political-Philosophical-Religious model and concept --Political hellenistic kings and Roman emperors (Callimachus Dio Chrysostom) --Philosophical pronoia and control (Stoic especially) --Religious fate
ZEUSrsquo IDENTITIES
Zeusrsquo roles in three comic genres --Drama (old and middle comedy) --Art (southern Italian vases) --Dialogue (Lucian)
The comic tyrant
Cratinus Pericles amp Zeus
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Zeusrsquo roles in three comic genres --Drama (old and middle comedy) --Art (southern Italian vases) --Dialogue (Lucian)
The comic tyrant
Cratinus Pericles amp Zeus
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
The comic tyrant
Cratinus Pericles amp Zeus
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Cratinus Pericles amp Zeus
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
μόλrsquo ὦ Ζεῦ ξένιε καὶ καραιέ
Come O Zeus patron of foreigners and head of state
CRATINUS NEMESIS FR 118
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Στάσις δὲ καὶ πρεσβυγενὴς Κρόνος ἀλλήλοισι μιγέντε
μέγιστον τίκτετον τύραννον
ὃν δὴ κεφαληγερέταν θεοὶ καλέουσιν
Faction and venerable Time joined in love and bore the greatest ever tyrant him the immortals called their head man
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 258
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Ἥραν τέ οἱ ἀσπασίαν τίκτει Καταπυγοσύνη παλλακὴν κυνώπιδα
And the goddess of the well-reamed ass
bore Hera to gladden the heart a bitch-faced whore
CRATINUS CHEIRONES FR 259
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
CRATINUS PLUTUSES FR 171
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Aristophanesrsquo Absent Zeus Peace Birds Plutus
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
WEALTH Zeus did this to me because he resents mankind You see when I was a boy I vowed that Id only visit the houses of just wise and decent people so Zeus made me blind to
keep me from recognizing any of them Thats how much he resents good people
(tr Henderson)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 87-92
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Chremylus Do you think that Zeusrsquo tyranny and his thunderbolts would worth a dime if you regained your sight for one
moment (tr Henderson adapted)
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 124-6
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
ΧΡ Θάρρει καλῶς ἔσται γάρ ἢν θεὸς θέλῃ Ὁ Ζεὺς ὁ σωτὴρ γὰρ πάρεστιν ἐνθάδε
αὐτόματος ἥκων ΙΕ Πάντ ἀγαθὰ τοίνυν λέγεις
(Chremylus) Cheer up Itrsquos going to be all right for Zeus the savior is here with us hersquos come of his own accord
(Priest) Well you have nothing but good news
ARISTOPHANES PLUTUS 1189-90
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Scholia Aristophanes Peace 741 ἐπεπόλαζε γὰρ ὡς ἔοικε τότε ταῦτα Ἡρακλῆς πεινῶν καὶ Διόνυσος δειλὸς καὶ μοιχὸς Ζεὺς These things it seems were fashionable then gluttonous Heracles cowardly Dionysus and adulterous Zeus
ZEUS ΜΟΙΧΟΣ
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Cratinus Nemesis Hermippus Europa
Platon Europa Sannyrio Danae
Antiphanes Ganymede Eubulus Antiope Alcaeus Antiope
ZEUS-ADULTERER TITLES OF COMEDIES
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-40 Vatican Museum U19 inv 17106
ZEUS AND HERMES APPROACH A TARGET
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
a Phanagoria chous mask 2 b fragment of rf Attic stemmed plate by the painter of Ferrara from Spina late 5th-early 4th century Ferrara Museo archeologico nazionale inv 29307 ARV2 13068 MMC3 AV1 Gilotta 1998 c Paestan rf bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 B C British Museum F 150 PHV2 36 RVP 2176 d Apulian rf bell krater from Ruvo ca 380-370 B C Hermitage 249 (St 1775 W 1121) PHV2 Nr 31 Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
MASK G (GREEN ldquoSMART AND STUPIDrdquo)
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
ATTIC CHOUS AND SOUTHERN ITALIAN CRATER
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
THE PHANAGORIA CHOUS
Ca 400 Hermitage State Museum Taman collection ΦΑ 186947Iconography and Performance conference Getty Villa
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Apulian bell krater by the Iris painter ca 370-360 Hermitage 299
HERACLES EATS OFFERINGS TO ZEUS
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
First quarter of 4th century Taranto 121613
FRAGMENT OF ASSEMBLY OF GODS (ZEUS DIONYSUS)
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
--Stoics Cleanthes and Chrysippus on his providence and control of fate --Callimachus on a paradigm for Kings --Menippus on the satiric side of the gods
HELLENISTIC PORTRAITS OF ZEUS
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Zeus in the Second Sophistic --Dio Olympian Discourse --Epictetus Discourses --Dio on Kingship 1
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Lucianrsquos favorite divine character
Dialogues of the Gods Assembly of the Gods Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic Icaromenippus
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
ZEUS THE SITCOM DAD
5 Prometheus tells Zeus to avoid Thetis and Zeus frees him 6 Eros advises Zeus on love affairs and Zeus frees him 7 Zeus commands Hermes to kill Argus and save Io 8 Zeus and Hera argue about Ganymede 9 Zeus and Hera discuss Ixion 10 Zeus tries to reassure an unhappy Ganymede 13 Hephaestus agrees to split Zeus head and admires Athena 15 Heracles objects to Asclepius sitting first Zeus stops their fight and calms Heracles 22 Hera criticizes Dionysus Zeus defends him
Dialogues of the Gods
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
ZEUS THE BUMBLING BOSS Assembly of the Gods Zeus goes tragic (also Twice Accused)
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
(Zeus) when Hermes makes the proclamation present yourselves and let each of you bring unmistakable
means of identification and clear proofs his fathers name and his mothers why and how he
became a god and his tribe and clan For if anyone shall fail to put all this in evidence it will make no
difference to the commissioners that he has a huge temple on earth and that men believe him to be a god
(tr MacLeod Loeb)
END OF ASSEMBLY OF THE GODS (19)
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
ZEUSrsquo EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Zeus cross-examined Zeus goes tragic
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
(Zeus) Well now it turned out to be us that all this argument was about Damis the rogue maintained that
we took no thought for mankind and paid no attention to what went on on earth he practically denied our very
existence (οὔτε προνοεῖν ἡμᾶς ἔφασκε τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὔτ ἐπισκοπεῖν τὰ γινόμενα παρ αὐτοῖς οὐδὲν ἄλλο
ἢ μηδὲ ὅλως ἡμᾶς εἶναι)-that was what his argument obviously came to And he had some support
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 17
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
(Zeus) And thats why Ive called this meeting It isnt a thing to be treated lightly gentlemen when you realize that our
position our prestige our income depend entirely on mankind Why if they were to get it into their heads that we dont exist at all or that even if we do were quite indifferent
to them (ἀπρονοήτους εἶναι) theres an end to all the sacrifices and honors and marks of respect we get from
earth Well find ourselves sitting around uselessly up here starving no more feasts-and you know what they mean to us-no more assemblies or games or sacrifices or all-night
vigils or processions So you see its pretty bad and wed all better try and think of some way out of the mess were in
(tr Reardon)
ZEUS TRAGOEDUS 18
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Zeus in defeated retirement Icaromenippus
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Tell me Menippus what views do men have about me I am fully aware of their love of novelty even if you dont tell me
There was a time when they thought me a prophet and a healer and I was everything to them ldquoAnd all the streets were full of Zeus And all mens assemblies ldquo In those days Dodona and Pisa were famous and universally admired and I couldnt even see anything for the smoke of the sacrifices they think Im past my best and theyve done their duty if they sacrifice once
every four years to me at Olympia So you can see that my altars are more frigid than the Laws of Plato or the Syllogisms of
Chrysippusrsquo (tr Costa)
ICAROMENIPPUS 24
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Douglass Parker
ZEUS IN THERAPY
Session 1 FIRST CONTACT
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Bakola Emmanuela 2010 Cratinus and the Art of Comedy Oxford Oxford University Press Berdozzo Fabio 2009 Die figur des Zeus in Lukians Dialogi deorum In Religion und Kritik in
der Antike eds Ulrich Berner and Ilinca Tanaseanu-Doumlbler 71-92 Berlin Lit --- 2011 Goumltter Mythen Philosophen Lukian und die paganen Goumlttervorstellungen seiner Zeit Untersuchungen zur antiken Literatur und Geschichte Bd 106 Berlin New York De
Gruyter Bosman Philip R 2012 Lucian among the cynics Zeus refuted and the Cynic tradition The Classical Quarterly 62 (02) 785-795
Coenen Juumlrgen 1977 Lukian Zeus tragodos Uumlberlieferungsgeschichte Text und Kommentar Meisenheim Hain
Green J R 2003 Smart and Stupid the Evolution of Some Masks and Characters in Fourth Century Comedy In Theatres of Action Papers for Chris Dearden eds John Davidson and Arthur Pomeroy 118-132 Auckland NZ Polygraphia
Groumlsslein Paul 1998 Untersuchungen zum Juppiter confutatus Lukians Frankfurt am Main New York P Lang
Konstan D and Dillon M 1981 The ideology of Aristophanes Wealth AJPh CII 371-394
McWilliam Janette 2011 Statue of Zeus at olympia new approaches Newcastle upon Tyne UK Cambridge Scholars Pub
Nesselrath H G 2010 Vom kleinen Meisterdieb zum vielgeplagten Goumltterboten Hermes in den Goettergespraechen Lukians In Mythos im Alltag - Alltag im Mythos die Banalitaumlt des Alltags
in unterschiedlichen literarischen Verwendungskontexten ed Christine Schmitz 147-159 Muumlnchen Fink
Rusten Jeffrey 2011 The Birth of Comedy Texts Documents and Art From Athenian Comic Competitions 486-280 BCE with translations by Jeffrey Henderson David Konstan Ralph Rosen Jeffrey
Rusten and Niall Slater Baltimore Johns Hopkins University Press
Most of these slides are posted at Jeffrey Rustenrsquos web page at academiaedu (Thanks to Fred Ahl Richard Green William Levitan and Hayden Pelliccia)
SOME BIBLIOGRAPHY
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Cratinus Thracian Women (PCG fr 72) Ὁ σχινοκέφαλος Ζεὺς ὁδὶ προσέρχεται ὁ περικλέης τᾠδεῖον ἐπὶ τοῦ κρανίου ἔχων ἐπειδὴ τοὔστρακον παροίχεται Here comes Zeus the onion-headed The famous one (pericles) with the Odeion on top of his head now that the vote on ostracism has passed (Cf Plutarch Life of Pericles 249 (on Aspasia) In comedies she is called ldquoOmphalerdquo and ldquoDeianeirardquo and ldquoHerardquo as well Cratinus (fr 259) comes right out and calls her a whore in these words ldquoAnd the goddess of the well-reamed ass bore a Hera to gladden his heart (aspasian) a shameless whorerdquo
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Paestan bell krater by Asteas ca 350-340 British Museum F150
A HUMAN ABDUCTION (NOTE THE LOOKALIKE WITNESS)
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter ca 380 Getty Museum A96 AE 113
ZEUS APPROACHES WHAT HE THINKS IS A WOMAN
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
Apulian bell krater by the Cotugno painter 2nd quarter of 4th century Bari 8014
YOUNG MAN WITH GARLAND APPROACHES A WOMAN WHO IS
TURNED AWAY
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
One of you might say why should I care about your troubles I can quote you Sophocles verse Dread is my suffering Old Cronus is eating and drinking all my children and whats more he doesnt share a single bit with me No he kidnaps anything I give birth to takes it to Megara and sells it and eats the proceeds Hes been afraid of an oracle like a [hare fears a] hound since Apollo once advanced (echresen) him a drachma then didnt get it back and so in rage he advanced him something worth more than drachmas not money or property by Zeus but the fact that a child of his was going to overthrow him as king Its in fear of that the he drinks down all his children PCG ADESPOTA 1062 (Papyrus Societagrave italiana 1175 vol 101932)
Rhearsquos lament in an unidentified comedy
- Slide Number 1
- Cleanthesrsquo Hymn to Zeus
- Phidiasrsquo Zeus at Olympia
- Zeusrsquo identities
- Slide Number 5
- Slide Number 6
- Slide Number 7
- Cratinus Nemesis fr 118
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 258
- Cratinus Cheirones fr 259
- Cratinus Plutuses fr 171
- Slide Number 12
- Aristophanes Plutus 87-92
- Aristophanes Plutus 124-6
- Aristophanes Plutus 1189-90
- Zeus μοιχοσ
- Zeus-adulterer titles of comedies
- Zeus and Hermes approach a target
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Mask G (Green ldquoSmart and Stupidrdquo)
- Attic chous and Southern Italian crater
- The phanagoria chous
- Heracles eats offerings to zeus
- Fragment of Assembly of gods (Zeus Dionysus)
- Hellenistic portraits of zeus
- Slide Number 26
- Slide Number 27
- Slide Number 28
- Slide Number 29
- End of Assembly of the gods (19)
- Slide Number 31
- Zeus tragoedus 17
- Zeus Tragoedus 18
- Slide Number 34
- Icaromenippus 24
- Slide Number 36
- Some bibliography
- Slide Number 40
- A human abduction (note the lookalike witness)
- Zeus approaches what he thinks is a woman
- Young man with garland approaches a woman who is turned away
- Slide Number 44
-
