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Boston University Coiference on Ethnomethodology an! Conversationlnarysis, and was prouided by Prof George Psathas (Boston

Univlrsiiy). Prof Doug Maynard (University of Wisconsin) arranged

ioi tfr" oiiginat fitm recording to be digitised' Jefferson laterdeveloped t6e talk into the pa[er ott'poetics of ordinary tatk'ijetterson 1996). Some headings here are taken/adapted from thatpaper

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an,when I say we: (.) it's not the royal we:, this is t0.4) jus'everybody's gott tg.Oi to*" handle (0.3) on this phenomenon:' (1'4)

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Athis isA mainty (0.5) to show you (0.9) tuhat (1.2) how this stuffjus' keeps turning uP (1.0)ihe poetics: (0.5) of ordinary conversationru {L'2)u:::m {2.7) thereis a f - a tittte biographicat not';e that I found

interestingr,a I remember afterf rom Harveyv (0.5)(0.7)Gait (0.4) take a look at this utterancev {L'2)it's:'(0.7) breaking my xxx my insanity's breaking their bank book

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repetition t.) sure t0'9)and began to think+ {1.9) where would I look to find (0.3) a

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Ew'lla I had no idea (.) where this thing hadjust then I reatized where it had tcome from

the kind of phenomenon we're studying in the

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and it wasn't anything like I remembered itr (')first of alt I rememb6red it as addressed to me and it r^ras no:t (0.4)it sai-:d have Gail check this out:r (0.5)it was written to himsetf and it was handed to mer (0.6)ie,ionOfy it turns out (0.5) he had a very specific phenomenon inmind (0.3)nui ii tsas ha:ndwritten t0.3) the note vras handrnrritten and I couldn'tread itr, (0 .7 ) r ,

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repetitions! (0.5)I don't think we've looked for 'em Vet Awe didn' know they were

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ili ii ig.Sl clothed tgit clothed in the formal structure (') ofspeechr t0.9)now woods was talkinE about (") sentence structure:r {0.4)inO'e kept insistini "n'insisting

(0,?i this ta:lk {0'4) is: (0'3)put into these beautifut sentences (0'6)because the sentences are so perfect (0.6) you don't see thatthere's alt these noises going onr' (0'5)they're just making these nice sentences (0'5)il;ir inO again he tatks about how (0.9) the pathgloqic?l phenomena

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tatk about yes (.) it's so {0'6) u:::m (0'4)this guy's got formal structures which a:re (0'4) more than sentences(0.6) um (1.2)iequentiai structures all the interactional structures we'retearning about (0.7) disguise it in the same way (0.9)so (.) we can jus, do a nice tittle adaptation of itr, (0.9)o1uy io l,lt b; introducing you to Woods (0.4) and I'll be

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r,lhich considers the needs of a listenerv (1'2)WooOt complained:, (0.7) he has this lovely complaint.throughout:'e those psycfroiics' jusi r"rill not (.) trv:: (0.6) to desiqn theirtalk for a tlistenerr, (0'7)ano it sounds tike (. ) what he- wuz beginning to gtirnpse at was

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it's ki:nd o:f (1.0) a way of:: (0.4) introducing you to thisstuff (0.5iI tthink in a way that might insult your intelligence a !i!! (0.4)what I'm gonnu ri"nt off with is, {0.4} utterly simple:, J}.0)uit*rry simple j-nstances of the phenomena:, (0.5) then I'11 work itup, (0.5) to the more comPlex: t1.3)errorSI'm gonna start with errors! (0.6)and I start with errors becau:se t1-4)a:s Woods notes+ tO.3) you have this (0.4) Vplausible (0'3) smooth

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you have objects r+hich belo:ng t0.5) very strongly belong toggther:'(0.5)sometimes j-t's contra:sts {0.6} sqmetimes it'S co-members+(0.6)very often as pai-:rs:, {0.3) up dow:n-r (.} back forth+ (-} right left+(1.3)what tseems to happen i:s: (0.9) the whole package gets dropped downr(0.4)and now it's like up t' your tastebudS t' decide which t^lord isgonna come outrr (.)6".uuse (0.5) one word comes ou:t+ i.) another word comes out+ (0.4)

there doesn't seem to be the sort of- (.) qre-selectio! !9.3)that ouqht t- (g.s; t'deliver* (0.6) such an extreme difference as

yes or no or uP or dow:n-r (0'6)you get one+ (0.2) instead of the otheru (0.3)io w- get {.) f'r example (.) j-n one+ (0.3)hi I'm Carol' s s:Lster- ( . ) uh brotherl (0.6)in two:, (0.4) 'cause they won't feel obligated t 5gutl (0.3) tbuv: : r, ( 1. 1)inIG., iO.St and maybe there's a better way of g.etting a- (.)qiving (0.2) than some power! (0.6)Tou.o-(g-4) f was- (.) made my left {9.2, ah my riqht (") signalvt0.6)u::m-(0.2) another one t.) that I jus' found before I got here+(0. s)and the last we heard they were coming south (.) uh northv* awright (.) againrr (.) these things (.) ius' one appears (0.3)wronq (g.El in comes the other one:r (0.7)flaf S one set (0.4) I put them together because you see the completeword:, (0.5)now they get even more interestingr, (.) these are nice becau:se (1.5)this {, )

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you sav it again+ (0.8)ro*"til"s yol hear you did it+ {.) and tsometimes you don't heartyou did it:, (0.a1ift"y're jus' t6.6) right on top of each other: (0'9)aouin (0,3) anotherErm of category error\ (0.8) here you get theerror+ (0.6)you get'an attempt t' corrtect it (.) and in the attempt t' correctit you do the error againr, (1.5)ro i.) in the first tg.gt this one's lovelyr = I don't understandwhat ihe fuss is that he's making but apparently for him (,) it'sa' really important disttinCtion: (0.7)that is he says mothetr io.+) uihen he should have said fatherr (1.2)

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second instance:, $.2) this is a kuh rowr. (0'8)ther.'s only one on the ways and Means committee {.) and r cannotserve on two O".uu:se "hh all these cakes and candy and crap that Iha: vel (0.4)awright'that crap "by the way I might as urell (. ) talk about itnowo+ {0.8)one tO.S) ph:enomenon 1 won't be tatking about but it's one of theones that we cotlect a lot (0.2) is: (0.9)a:nother case of those freely occurring (0.2) like the estimatednumbers (0.+1 there's no; : (6.9) ru:le that says (0.3) it has t' be

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so (.) in number three+ {0'8) an F row (0.5)I hive heard atl this foofaa back and forth (.) about ah coutdn'tfire the three shots in seven seconds and so forth and so on (0'4) Iam fascinated by this: t0.3) okay that wold:r (0'8)a1otfrE. phenomenon shot*s up in thisr, (0.6) Rich Frankel (.) isinterested in the numbers! (0.3)no::t (1.0) necessarily for the sounds and categories although thatt* lO.Zl the thing hels interested in he called members'math:'(0.7 )and r*hat it is is+ (0.5) Y'vratch these numbers (0.+1 ej-ther thenumbers themselves or uh s words with the sounds of numbers liketO.Ol for::th (0.2) has a sound of four (0.7)inO Vou watcn and you say v*hat is the relationship betr*een (0.8)three: seven and fiur+ and it's a simple (.) arithmatic oner (0'5)"awntghf t0.3) three f rom seven equals l-ou-f:' (0'2)and tfiat sounds crazy\ (0.6] it happens alt the timer' (0'5) you

watch them maniputating numbers+ (0.3)not even just in the ltlmbers they're sayi-ng but in the sounds thatsound lik; numbers: tgsl "awright" that's one of : (0'+1 Frankel'srnathematicsr, (0.7) ah: we'tl find a few more of thoser' t0.6)another one\ (g.Sl thi::s (1.2) is: an atttempt (1.4) or perhaps no-this is a try rnarkervAokayA this is an attempt (. ) to get (.) a_phrase (8.4) a bon mot(0.5i a turn of- (') a turn of phrase+ (1.1)itrrnsr RECoRDTNG'FrLE ENDS AT 32:2811 ttsEcsND vrDEo REC0RDTNG FrLE BEGrI

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get (0.9)but the second or third stroke more or tess(.) left si:de (0.6) so that his speech isthink nor*: that with therapy they c'n riqht"olcy so you got it" xxx at first you ha:vet0.4i here you have left and rightl (0.7)

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anything to do (0.2)ah when or way i.l and t0.2) correct (0.7) don't have anything to do

with each other+ {0.4)but directionals ieft and right do! {CI.4) so it's like (0-4) a doubte

distance cross-over (0.8)n*itt,". of them belong to the category in r"rhich they are co-members:

{0.6}ine iu** thing is so in fragment fourrr (0.9) you gonn? gel t.) a word

rfa:tl and a *ord stand:r (0.5) and both of them meet in thecategory having to do with movement upward or downwardv (0.9)in tfiis'case tg.lt fall is used for autumn and stand is used fortoleraterr (0.7 )i-nose categories have (, ) who-knows-uhat to dg with each other:'{0.8)but t.) their cross- over (.) meet (0.5) in a shared categoryr,to. s)mister N say:s (0-5) I voted for Cranston in the fall (-) rnainly'cause I couldn't stand fRafferty:, t0.7)fall 'n' standy (0.3) perfectly tovely talk+ (.) no problem:' (1.1)in the fifth or€+ (0.7) u:::m (1.1) tfi:tled (0.9) and whollyr(0.5) now that's a little bit (0.5) Aurkward:' (0.5)but they do belo:ng together in a category a:f filtednessor emptinGs (.) pickeaness or t0.4) non s- (0.2) no:n ah solidnessr(0.4)hotu it runs toff however is (0.41 wholly has nothing whatever todo with ttna:t10.6) but is referring to a state of faitlr' {0.5)io you get (0.5) the computer business is absolutely filted with guys

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you get Pos:L'Lion: t .)io* i'11'just read it to you an' see: how this thing (8'8) tracksit's way through the entire ffragment:'Athe tsiory hai nothing ruhatever to do rorith any of this:'a (1'2)u:::m this is: t.) by: a riroman urho is um t.) a cocktail waitress and

now she tinds this (.) underage girl t.) is drinking t.) booze outof a qlass (1.0)so on6 of the ah- one of the other guys come up behind me theyalt*ays do: t.)you't no* they- whenever you take a drink away frsm a Ei:rl (0.+)something (.)you alwals have a bouncer with you t0:1) just in case the guy

ig.Zl r,rho's with her decides to come (0.4) t' stand up and thit yal(0. s)Jerry mm hm t0.4)Shiriey.hh so she goes well I don' see vlhat you're so concernedabout (.) vou didn't serve it to mer" (0,7)so I loofeO it her an' I said Cathy I said ( .) I feel personally ( .)affronted (0"5) thatchu would do it in a place that I work (0.3) and

put ne in a position like you just EUt me in (CI.6)

she'i-not taikl-ng about any of, that (.) and it's jus'buildingltself up through it:* (.)she's teiting a storyrr whatever the story is we l:Lsten to itr, (0.2)

as wood says t0.4) it's quite plausible+ (1.0) we take it atface value+ (0.5)and v+e don't look for these quotes' autistic productions that are(.) creeping around t0.3) through the matrix of the ttalkr, (0.5)it's there lg.:t it's there if you lOok for it+ "and you can

ffind it:,'(0.9)u:::m (0.6) the next one (0.5) turned out to be controversial"although I couldn't imagine lt utould ber'" (0.7)the iss[e for this is silnpty thigr,E you ha:ve what looks to me likean eqq image:, (0.8)a:::nd- Athey're talking about clothes:'A t1.2)ah:; (0.4) aLout a pair of pants with a voke in the back:, (0.4)and Ellen says (0.4) you might find something very silnilar to thiswithout the ivo:ke (.j and they're just as easy to whip up:, {2.2)now what's contrwersial about this was I gave it in cla:ss and

threepeopleinthebackstarted(.).iitteringandafterctasslwastotd {0.4)i-t's not e:qq {0.3) and r*hipping up eqgs it's gxen {.) you put ox- a

yoke on an ox an' then you twhip an oxtl (0.5)ind nour hre're having this controversy about which categorythese things came out of:rA(well) wnetner you wilt agreeA they came out of someurhere no:t (')out of talking about sewing clothes:, (0.6)topicat punsaw: right {0.6} u:::m (CI.9) next setrr (L.7}f'm givin- your next set starts at number tenl* an! that's because I decided not to read through a bunch of theset0.7) u::m (0.3) a bunch of stuff we call topicat puns! 10.0tum what they are- these you find (0.4) absolutely everyr'*here: you'11find them in Harvey's pun paper\ (0.8)what happens is: sbme thing (0.3) some word in the tatk (0.4) is-(0.3) jirl' ptain over apt (0.2) for the talk that it's referring tor'(0.5 )and it's not meant in that seflse ( .) and yet it is over apt!s f'11 just give you a first one on a page f haven't given you! (1.0)

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u:m a woman is tatking about her {0.3} um (0.5} academic career an'

she says I wanted to go to an agricultural college but my mothersteered me ahray from thatr, (1-2)ookayo thousanis of them:, t0.2) you just {.} can't get rid ofthemrr (1.0)I'm not giving you that page what I'm giving you o:n (.).the page

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they're right next to each other:, (0.8)it gets (. ) very interesting when you begi! to find thern spreadout (.) over the course (0.4) of tal,kr (0.7)you begin to watch them jus' (.) creeping through the tatk:' (0.3)alivinE in that talkr," (0.6) (coughs)this oie (0.6) this is one of- one of the ones Harvey found (.) and

we all jus' t0.3) r.rent like thj-s because we didn' see it (0.3)and it'l a very lovely one (0.S) l*hat's lovely about it i:s (0'6) you

don't get the rrlordsv (0.4) you don't get agriculturatcotlege steeredr (0.6)you tfiave a topic going on and it's a very perfect topical pun (0.3)for that'r (0.9)Vthe topic has to doV with this guy: who is getting: {-) apparentlyrestless in his marriage (.) and he has an affalr with anotherwoman+ (0.6)a::nd finally he sa:ys he reports his r.rife has reatized hell maybe

it's good for me to go out, t0.4) and they're going on and on+ (0.4)

no::w in: an assessment of that (.) in (0.4) no:\d (0.5) recipient(.) is gnderstanding and characterizing {. ) that relati-onship whatshe says is: (.) -hwell I think tha- you know- s- a lot of times these situationsDave can very easily reach a staletnate (0.4) and Harvey says (0-2)?sta:::lema:tef Ethat's what he said alrighta (0.6)@ part of j-tr, r now t.) years later people aretooLing through it and someone says you do y'know what+ there's more

to it (2.0) Vlook at lineV tt'rennv four:, (0.4)t{aggie is stitl busy discussing (0.3} characterizing this state."iitionthip (. ) and one of the !{ays she does it is to tquote them

in a conversation with each other in raftich'h one says (0'3)you knovu .hh make -piece of toast dear this type of thing (0.3);aurright" So we got your sta:le mate and we got your toast comingout towards the bottomr, t0.7)"they begin to creep down" t0.7) over the course of rather extendedtalkr, 'hhu:::m and you can look at the-ol'm not gonna read them out tosense (0.6) of what l.re mean bY

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{0.5} such as theY are! (1.1)what'(.) it turns out is if you're- protecting identities (.)if you're messing witl'r the data (. ) you're messing with the data(0. s)you're ripping up the texturet (0.5) if you change a name (0'8) you

itep on i butterfly you know that Bradbury storyr 'hhyou step on a butterfly watch outt* (1.0)you cnairge the na:me t.l and now you have removed t0,5) some of thetexture of the talk (.) it's building it upr (L.zJI witt qive you: (0.3) I have them listed as one trso and three (.)two j-s a series of stuff f watch a lot of football (.) and they pop

up in these announcements of tfootbatl games! (0.6)tire first is just f rom a conversAtionr' (0.3)A says (. ) I Latled Terri and told her to come over around ni-ne

thirtyr, (0.4)B: it's nine thirtY notr (0.2)A (0.3) r*ell then she'tl be here rnomentarityl (0.3)okay: (0.5) Terri t.) momentarily (0.8) the rest of them+ (0.2)the- next set (.) come out of the football broadcast:n (0.6iBill Knox knocked the ball loosel {0.5}Kenny Stabler has really stabi-tised the clubr' (0.7)Chester wlarcol checks inr (0.8)I guess Plunkett's biggest plus is a quarterback (0.7)and gisf,a has really been shining here in the second half (1.1)

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there's Marvin Gaye he sang the national anthem tonight(0.3) marvellous singerr, (0.7)a nineteen yard touchdown run by Greg Pruitt (0.2) so the Browns arerealty proving tough todayr, (0.7)Witly Lanier nearly took his head off (CI.8)and we have Lawrence MctCutcheon {.) a clutch runner (g-7} you sab/

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F'lcCutcheon {. } clutch t0.4} and my throat is registeringr (1.4)ur:rn tO.+) you saw Jim LeClair have a good clear shot at Franco(0.e)Ptunkett may make the tast ditch attempt throwing to Jim Lash (0.3)

okay for tha:t (.) it's last ditchy (.) you get it collectedin both words t' Jim Lashr (0.4)and the last one is the ever popular (.) Cosell:, (0.5) who say:s(o.s)Nor*-Snee throwing to his favorite receiver who has enormous spee:dpotential:, (1.7) "awright" (0'8)this thi: r:d one (0.4) is a telephone calt (9.9) and it getscompticated and interestingv t0.2)wnai happens is {1.2} you get a questioned asked (0.4) a questlonasked (b'.6) iust after a possible completion+ = and it's in overtapr(1.0)the question is Awhat'sA his name:, (1.2)no::w (0.8) the (0.3) speaker vuho was: gagoing and who was

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and there is now a position for the- (0.3) question to be answered:'(0. a;and ihe question sh'ld be answered with a name! {0'8)and what you get i-s: (0.7) a continuation of the priorr, tB.B)he'|l be lrere-a little after ong:, (.) he's at my house now

firring any unforeseen troublel (0.3) now the answer to the questionhis name is Bartr, t1.0)now when 1 llEten to this (0.7) when he said bar: 1 thought Barney\(0.6) I was wrongy (0.+l but not all that wrong:r (.i "awrightowhat you get is iO.6) in answer position (0.2) although that answer

is not being done there+ (.)that's answer position (0.5) you qet an artifact of the object-thatwj-tl constitute the ansvrer\ t0.3) oand that gets complex:" {0.7)urm tg.Zl I think it's po:ssibte (0.4) we might consider-this as

another ig.Zl po:ssible instance of a suppression and a leakr (0.6)

that is (0.7) you ca:n specificatly suppress (.)now (.) this miybe an instance also or indication of the rewer (0'5)of adjacency pairsr, (0.7)tquesfions let answers! (0.4) Aeven if you don'tA want to (0.6)you're gonna give part of the answerY (0.2)iurright*the ansro,er-1s-sneaking out (') ius'where it ought to go (')although it is- (0.4)the on6 Ar,uho is doing it is sayingA f 'rn not going to answer thatquestion ti1 I'm good and readyr, (CI.6) he answers it anyway\' (0'9)

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xaudience coughingx (0"4)it c'n be a pure sound phenomenon as for(0.5) where you get ninety (0.2) showingnothing to do with numbersr,. so y; get (.) we go maybe {0.4} vre'lI maybe go ninety.mites on a

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heard oh she's starting B and just wrote it in as if that's what had

thupp"n*d:r it was not buh (0.9i it was "b" an you can hearpeople going obo (1'1)now'thai I iigured (0.4) you can't just slap into a transcript as B

dash:, (0.6) you'd better be ve-ty careful about it+ (0.4)because for this (0.3) I wuz gonna make a big tcase about {0'3) lookat that she alrnosi started to say both and switched it back into thenumbers moder, (0.4)now r wouldn't dare let myself make this argument about such a (0.7)very delicate Piece of datar, (0.+;but'tre'tl keep j-t around we'tl use th' null sign and double

able to put it ba:ck (.) into

awright t.) this next one also {0'3) got to be probtematic on

rehearingr, (1.1)what I have was a really nice roul that we'-nt+ (0-5) I'lt iust read itout\E we alt piled out you knovr (.) one after one you know (..) s0 lce

atl said ifris i-s our club (.) anybody urant to- it was a ba:ll you

know (0.2) we got into three races (0'4)so y got one two three (. )

thai ii-gnt you knor* (0.4) we won trso of em (0.6) 's pretty good see

Dave's got a three twennY six:, (')so y'g-t one one (0.4) two three one two threer (0.3) except forone'liitle tpro:btem:, (.) on rehearing it's not into it's intuhtr(0.8)now comes a question:, (1.5) is intuh: t.) for all practical purposes

into an'we say oh good we gotta another rot*:' (0'5)or is intuh stored over here and into stored over therez (0.2) arethey tdifferent objectsr (0-3) tshat is a to what is a tuh (0'3)I have no: idea: tO.+l but j-t's a question raised by this sort ofthing and the problem is {0.6)can i (0.S) without wo: rrying about it stap that into the rowr or can

i rry no t0.3) that's intuh ind intuh is: not to: and I can't justgo forcing it into a one tr,ro threei (0.5)i'* just lonna tet it stay at tthat (.) with that quqstionr' (0.9)the next one:, (0.9) an'it goes: (.) Vit tends up bei-ng somethingfikev (6.8) u:t,m (1.1) a t*o three four rowv (0.4) with a firstr'r okay so y'get first compliment |ve had in three years (0.4) 'hand you exPect me not to:rtand ihat's clearly to: (0.7) and in this case (.) recipient says

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opportunity (1.2)unbtn"t simpie o:ne (0.5) this is from a nineteen sixty three Ibelieve it r^ras (1.3) ah (.) tsensitivity training session for prisongua rdsrind r*hat they,re doing is airing their feellngs about homosexuatsand blacks (.) wno troubte them a 1g!r, t0.6)so Baines says (0.5) when I see a white girt with a colored man Ialruays wanna go over and punch him in the nqse (0.4)and Lventually Guy says (0.3) why vrould you wa- r,rhy wouldcha punch

him in the no:sezand Baines says I don' know I just seeson of a bitch think he is:, (0.5)it's not onty that you get the colorsdistance+ (0.2) but when they do occur

red (.) I mean who does this

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lgr'mat:, (0.5)t see X (0.7) I s- (0.2) I seer, (0-3) "it's not (.) I letter C X"(0.7)when I: see: (0,5) white coloredl (0.7) and the next time thatformat-shows fup (0.4) I tsee: (0.4) co.lor:, (0.3) redr,(0.7)it's even tighter (.) and more beautiful than (0.3) just a bunch ofcolors occurring across a transcriptr, (1.1)number three: I;m giving you a lo::ng transcript iust in ca:se (0.3)anybody has any questions absut what the topic night have been:'(0.s)I'lt tell you what the topic is and you can read it yourself (0.8)u:ttm (0.7) Ken is reporting this lo:ng story about his very firsttrafflc ticketr, (0.3)now I'm onty gonna read you the very last tpart). (S'7)what I want to say is: (.) at least thisv t0.5) the co:p (.) has

onlv been mentionid as a cop! t0.6),rI1! (0.6) at line fift- at line let's start from line fifttee::n(0.3)he sa:ys it's against the law to go over that white 1i.::ne an' hegives me a t0.2) bi::g long lecture he's a tcolored guy\ (0'5)iuddenly comes (0.4) this identification of the co:p:, (0.5) andthat's a sociotogical object:, t0'5)people code things like that they say ah (0.2) index of attitude:(0.8)now what we have here as far as I'm concerned i:s (0'3)Aah you get white (.) so y'get coloredr,A (0.5) that's a phenomenon!(0.6)it a:lso mlght constitute (0.3) a trlqqered leakt, {0.5} that is+(0,8) i-n:: this happens to be group ttherapy::r, t0.3) f for youngkidst (1.2)the speaker may perfectty welt be guarding agalnst ius' the verything he kno:vrs he's gonna sa:y (. ) which is- or he ha:s as a

possible thing to detliverr. (0.5) the cop was a colored cop\ (0.5)and he's supptressing itl (.) he's not gonna do thatr (.) he'sgonna be Ut'Lerly fair and jus' talk about peopte:' (9.4)ior you qe{ the trigger urhite:r (.} boom (.) out it leaks+ (0.5)cotoreO:r-(0.9) something, (0.6) and you can see again an' again+t0.3)

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psychotherapist (.) interested in interaction named Marl t'i George

furif (0.2) and he ran an experiment {0.5) of- wlth monitoring {0:alhe- he ran four different situations (0.5i facing interlocutor (0.4)um um t0.6) nothing (.) nothing on their ears (.) facing theinterlocutor ear pfiones oni (0.3) w- r*hite noise (0.4) beamed jnr(0.4) fac- ah- ah- white noise (.) facing the interlocutor+ (0'2)an, iacing auay frorn the interlocutor t.) an'white noise:, E an'whathe got wai (0.4) th-the less monitoring (.) they could_do: (0'3) oftheir own speech (0,2) the more this sort of stuff (0'3) came uprl

wonderfulr, (0.2) oh that's fabulouls r'Land.t also (0.2) other things (.)

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= wait a minute I have t' e-yo- y' have t be suspicious (.) ofcornments like that {.) that means I hav- I have something to Say on

it Awhen a recipient says oh that's terrificA (0.6) give them room

{.) o,cause they wanna lalk'u:::m (1.3) the kind of talk I do when

i (-) do a lecture in class is: (-) toose to the point of: (0.2)lunacy (0.2) that is witt I jus say whatever happens to occur to merl

(1.4)-thank you very much (1.4) u::m (2.6\ a lo:t of these thingscame off of iO.:l ah interview:s (0.9) things where people: wereforced (0.2) into their ourn resources to talk (0.4) and what itseemed to me ws happening was {A.7) if they were ('} kept out ofthis t0.8) ongoing instant by instant monitoring of each other+ theywere almost in a deprivation self stim situation and the mor- (0.4)the C B- we have some c:itizens band radio stuff (.) where they tatk(0.6) pa: ragraphs Abefore turning over to the other guy-A (0.2) itbegins to sound rea:ltv craizY (0.4) 'cause they're just_nowbolncing off of (0.3) their own input (0.4) "that's reatly nice:ropif it?r corretated urith: wha- corretated other things came out (0.3)there was a guy who had been in his chitdhood an orthodox Jew {0.4)an- and a:ll-oi a sudden (0.3) never (-) done it for years and years(.) began saying xxx shalom every time he mentioned his dead fatheriO.Sl ihere r+as-a woman (0.2) who had bn been brought up (') ah ah

in an ltalian: (.) famity (.) in- i-n United States (.) had gone toschool an' lost all her accent and :rgave this stuffr xxx (0.5)sty:le shift atl the r*ay back down to her childhood acctent

L ahlhuhit was a kind of apun:* on every question asked (0.4) they i') theysuppressed the white noise n asked the question iran turn- (0.4)turned it over again to ahg (0.6) "s-soo there's fxxx

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LwittyouL write these things dourn these references and give them to me

i.l oh that's lovelyr, (0.6) any more2l (2.0)okayt= yeahr,=E oh yeahu::m ig.Sl atthough you make (0.4) a couple of critical comments

ah:: ig.g) about frelA Ain yrA presentation I found it (0.4) sortof (0.7) ama:zing that (0.3) ah: (0.4) what you called_mechanistic(0.i) uf, (0.2) a: sort of tL.2) quasi-automatic (0.6) let's say (0.6)creaiion of f. I topics (0.5) and things like that ah (0.9) that themesa- mechanisms you were {0.8) glossing ah:: (0.6) come really veryclose to: ah:: mechanisms Freud ah:: {0.21

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downgrade Freud (.) cause what I- what I felt about this 'hh I'm notsure if I'm right on this but I uias reading- I do a tittle readingt0.8) u:::m (1:0) the people r"rho preceded Freud were doing jus' thiskind'of v,rork they were cutting it up and talking about contaminationerrors and alt t-hat stuff (0.4i Freud came along and said no {0.8)it's the deepy deeps of your unconscious (CI.5) and what I'm sayingis: (0.3) tre'iOOeO'another dimension (0.4) o:ften to add anotherdimension (0.2) first you take over the urorld (0.2) and then it{0.4t finds its shape igain t0,4} s' now (0.5} the- (.) work on thequotes mechanistic stufi is Ueginning !0.4) surely there-are these

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