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From Bashful to Bold: A Spiritual and Pedagogical Insight from Teaching Comparative Theology
Daniel London Engaging Particularities X
New Directions in Comparative Theology Boston College April 1, 2012
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Rabbi Norman Lamm, the current president of Yeshiva University in New York, tells of a time
when he was a student and his teacher asked him to summarize the approach of the Tosafot to a
passage of the Talmud that the class had been studying.1 Young Norman Lamm thought he would
impress his rabbi by repeating the explanation of the passage that his rabbi had taught the class the
previous day. But instead of being impressed, the rabbi said to Lamm, “I know what I am saying. I do
not need you to tell me. What do you think?... The problem is that you check your evil inclination
(yetzer hara) outside the classroom door and come in with your good inclination.2 Next time, bring
your evil inclination with you, and leave your good inclination outside.”3 This idea of bringing your
evil inclination with you into the classroom is summed up in the words of Rabbi Hillel, who said, “A
bashful person cannot learn.”4 This aphorism along with its following adage that the “impatient person
cannot teach” generated considerable thought and discussion in the class “Comparative Theology as
Spiritual Practice,” which I co-designed and co-taught with Dr. Daniel Joslyn-Siemiatkoski at the
Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley CA. Throughout the course, I emphasized the spirituality and
transformative nature of comparative theology. Upon further reflection, I came to see teaching
comparative theology as a spiritual practice, bearing fruits of patience for the teachers and fruits of
courage for the students. This presentation will explore how engaging the particularities of another
tradition’s pedagogy and spirituality enhances and enlivens the pedagogy and spirituality of one’s
1 Tosafot are medieval commentaries on the Talmud 2 The yetzer hara or yetzer ra, the evil inclination or evil impulse. All humans are born with a yetzer ra (physical needs that can become evil: hunger can become gluttony, sexual desire can become sexual abuse…). According to Avot of Rabbi Natan (a homiletical exposition of Pirkei Avot), girls acquire the yetzer tov at age 12 and boys acquire the yetzer tov at 13. According to Genesis Rabbah 9:7, “without the yetzer hara, a human being would never marry, beget children, build a house, or engage in trade.” 3 Norman Lamm, “Knowing vs. Learning: Which Takes Precedence?” in Susan Handelman and Jeffrey Saks, Wisdom from All My Teachers (New York: Urim Publications, 2003) p.18 n.7. 4 Pirkei Avos and Bircas Hamazon: Ethics of the Fathers and Grace After Meals, commentary by Rabbi Meir Zlototwitz (New York: Mesorah Publications, 1999), p. 17, v. 2:6.
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home tradition.5 The class in which we compared the Jewish text Pirkei Avot with the Sayings of the
Desert Fathers and the Gospel of Matthew will serve as a basis for this reflection.
As the class read Pirkei Avot in depth, Hillel’s assertion that “a bashful person cannot learn nor
can an impatient person teach” served as an effective catalyst for us as we engaged texts from the
Christian tradition, helping us to see the same themes of boldness and patience in learning and teaching
in the Apophthegmata Patrum [Sayings of the Desert Fathers] and the Gospel of Matthew. Our
exploration of these themes inspired the more “bashful” students to speak up while inspiring the
teachers to practice patience in response to questions and critique. Moreover, our exploration of these
themes invited us to see our relationship with the divine as a teacher-student relationship that can also
deepen and grow if we moved from bashfulness to boldness in our prayer lives.
From Bashful to Bold in the Classroom
In the spirit of comparative theology, we first delved deep into the outside tradition by spending
several class periods studying Pirkei Avot, a collection of wisdom sayings from rabbis ranging from
the first century BCE to rabbis of the sixth century CE. We even had the students practice the Jewish
approach to reading Talmud called chavruta (which means “friendship” or “companionship”) in which
we had the students break off into pairs and study individual mishna, mostly by having them ask
questions about the text and argue and debate with each other about possible answers. The class was
made up of mostly Christians: several Episcopalians (priests and lay), a couple Catholics, a couple
Lutherans, one Jesuit, one Sufi and one Buddhist. There were no Jewish students in the class and
therefore no one who had any former experience with the Jewish practice of chavruta, which requires
students to bring their “evil inclination” with them, their courage and chutzpah to ask questions and to
argue. Many of the students in the class found this practice particularly challenging since they were
more accustomed to agreeing with one another rather than arguing and debating. Also, their limited 5 Although students came from different home traditions, no one’s home tradition was Judaism...
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knowledge of Judaism, the Mishnah and Pirkei Avot made them feel less confident and less qualified
to assert their arguments, ideas and interpretations. As I visited these chavruta study pairs, I noticed
“bashfulness,” fear of argument and an eagerness among the students for me to tell what to think.
When we reconvened as a whole class, Dan and I tried to subvert their “bashfulness” by inviting them
to ask whatever questions they had about their particular mishna, assuring them that all questions
would be welcome. The students’ “bashfulness” slowly dissipated as they learned that all their
questions were being welcomed and appreciated. We continued this strategy in a second class meeting
in which we started to read Pirkei Avot mishna by mishna by first asking any questions that each
mishna aroused. We purposely held back from answering any of the questions in order to allow the
students and ourselves to be creative, courageous and uninhibited in our asking. After interrogating
several mishnayot, we finally attempted to answer the list of questions that we had created. At this
time, we were encouraged to see that the confidence, which we awoke in inviting questions, continued
into our discussion of answers. Some of the students who were shy during the chavruta began to offer
answers while also challenging other people’s answers, including those of the professors. The students
were finally bringing their “evil inclination” with them to the classroom and we began to see some of
the fruit of our patience as the questions and challenges of the students opened us all up to new ways of
thinking about the mishnayot of Pirkei Avot. As a young professor, I found myself practicing patience
not only with the students whose questions and challenges sometimes seemed unhelpful but also
practicing patience with myself as I tried to find the right words and right way to communicate my
ideas and interpretations to the class. I quickly learned to appreciate the atmosphere of question and
challenge that we created in the classroom as it pushed me to clarify or even modify what I was
attempting to teach and communicate. My teaching experience reminded me of a story in the Talmud
that colorfully illustrates Rabbi Hillel’s mishna that “a bashful person cannot learn nor can an
impatient person teach” (2:6). In tractate Bava Metzia 84a (which is in the same Order as Pirkei Avot:
Nezikin), a story is told about Rabbi Yochanan of the third century and his student Resh Lakish. The
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two studied together for several years until Resh Lakish died and Rabbi Yochanan grew severely
depressed. Other rabbis tried to cheer him up by sending him a brilliant student, but the plan failed
since the student never challenged his teachings. Whenever Rabbi Yochanan opined, the student would
say, “I know another source the supports what you are saying.” Eventually, Rabbi Yochanan said to
him, “Whenever I stated an opinion, Resh Lakish would raise twenty-four objections to what I was
saying…He forced me to justify every ruling I gave, so that in the end the subject was fully clarified.
But all you do is tell me that you know another source that supports what I am saying. Don’t I know
myself that what I have said is right?” (Bava Metzia 84a).6 Like Resh Lakish, the students had grown
out of their initial bashfulness enough to challenge us professors, forcing us to justify and clarify our
teachings.
From Bashful to Bold in the Desert
Most associate desert spirituality with silence, solitude and humility. As we read the
Apophthegmata Patrum, these themes took on a new texture as they reminded us of Rabbi Shimon
from Pirkei Avot who said, “All my days I have been raised among the Sages and I found nothing
better for oneself than silence.”7 However, more than that, our reading of Apophthegmata Patrum was
enhanced by our prior engagement with the particulars of Pirkei Avot, which served as an effective
catalyst for us to reexamine our tradition and its texts and notice themes, which we would otherwise
overlook.8 With Rabbi Hillel’s mishna echoing in our minds, our eyes were peeled for a similar call to
boldness in learning and patience in teaching in the sayings of the desert fathers and mothers.
6 Joseph Telushkin, Hillel: If Not Now, When? (New York: Random House, 2010), 157. 7 Pirkei Avos, p. 15, v. 1:17 8 Daniel Sheridan, Loving God: Krsna and Christ: A Christian Commentary on the Narada Sutras (Dudley, MA: W.B. Eerdmans, 2007), 2.
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The words of Amma Theodora on patient pedagogy leapt out from the page when she said, “A
teacher ought to be a stranger to the desire for domination, vain-glory, and pride; one should not be
able to fool him by flattery, nor blind him by gifts, nor conquer him by the stomach, nor dominate him
by anger; but he should be patient, gentle, and humble as far as possible.”9 The call to boldness in
learning was less apparent to us in our readings of the Apophthegmata Patrum since the desert
literature is so drenched with exhortations to humility and self-deprecation. However, our more careful
reading revealed a similar call to boldness in learning, especially in the disciples’ persistent demand for
answers to their question. In one saying, the disciple Zacharias sees Abba Silvanus “in ecstasy with his
hands stretched towards heaven” for more than four hours. Zacharias asks Abba Silvanus, “What has
happened today, Father?” The Abba responds, “I was ill today, my child.” At this, the disciple seized
the Abba’s feet and said, “I will not let you go until you have told me what you have seen.” The Abba
then said, “I was taken up to heaven and I saw the glory of God and I stayed there till now and now I
have been sent away.”10 The disciple Zacharias boldly demanded a sincere answer from Abba Silvanus
and was not content with his initial response. If Zacharias was not bold in demanding an answer he
would not have learned the truth of Abba Silvanus’ mystical experience.
Another saying in the Apophthegmata Patrum shares a similar call to boldness in learning by
showing the tenacity of another Abba: “[Abba Sarmatus] was often alone for forty days. He completed
this time as though he had done nothing special. Abba Poemen went to see him and said to him, ‘Tell
me what you have seen by giving yourself such great hardship.’ The other said to him, ‘Nothing
special.’ Abba Poemen said to him, ‘I shall not let you go till you tell me.’ Then he said, ‘I have
discovered one simple thing: that if I say to my sleep, “Go,” it goes, and if I say to it, “Come,” it
9 Amma Theodora Saying 5, The Sayings of the Desert Fathers: The Alphabetical Collection, translated by Benedicta Ward (Trappist KY: Cistercian Publications, 1975), p. 83-84. 10 Abba Silvanus Saying 3, Sayings of Desert Fathers, p. 222-223.
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comes.’”11 In the desert literature, the disciples and students are not the only ones who show boldness
in learning. Even the abbas have to put aside their humility and holy bashfulness in order to learn
insights from their fellow practitioners. If Abba Poemen did not boldly demand a more thorough
answer from Abba Sarmatus, he would not have learned about the abba’s mastery over sleep.
Both of the above sayings include the phrase “I will not let you go until…” which is clearly a
reference to Genesis 32:27 when Jacob, while wrestling with a divine being, boldly says, “I will not let
you go, unless you bless me.” Although in the above sayings, the phrase is used between either a
disciple and his abba or between two abbas, the desert literature also shows this same phrase of
tenacity being used between an abba and God in the abba’s prayer for his disciple: “Abraham, Abba
Sisoes’ disciple, was tempted one day by the devil and the old man saw that he had given way.
Standing up, he stretched his hands toward heaven, saying, ‘God, whether you will, or whether you
will not, I will not let you alone till you have healed him,’ and immediately the brother was healed.”12
Here we see the teacher displaying compassion for his student through a patient and persistent prayer
of boldness. Abba Sisoes shows patience and compassion to his student by practicing boldness in
prayer. Although the desert literature mostly advocates profound humility in relation to others and
especially in relation to God, the literature also describes abbas who lay aside their holy bashfulness by
boldly “clinging to God”13 and, in one case, even arguing with God.14
By first reading and reflecting on Rabbi Hillel’s saying that the bashful person cannot learn and
the impatient person cannot teach, we began to see similar themes of boldness and patience between
students and teachers in the desert literature, which we may otherwise have overlooked. Moreover, we
11 Abba Sarmatus Saying 2, Sayings of Desert Fathers, p. 225-226. 12 Abba Sisoes Saying 12, Sayings of Desert Fathers p. 214. 13 Abba Timothy Saying 1, Sayings of Desert Fathers p. 237 14 Abba Moses Saying 13, Sayings of Desert Fathers p. 141.
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began to see a similar boldness between the abbas themselves and even between the abbas and God as
they boldly clung to and argued with God in prayer.
From Bashful to Bold in Christian Discipleship
We also read the Gospel of Matthew in light of Pirkei Avot and once again the disciple-teacher
relationship came to the forefront in our discussions. Throughout the Synoptic Gospels, we noticed
how Jesus often asks his own bold questions as a form of teaching. We recalled that in Luke’s Gospel,
“[Jesus’ parents] found [young Jesus] in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and
asking them questions” (Luke 2:46) and that Jesus continues to ask questions pedagogically throughout
Luke. We also noticed how Jesus himself prays boldly to God in the Garden of Gethsemane, asking for
“this cup” to pass from him (Matthew 26:39). After this petition is denied, Jesus continues to pray
boldly to God, even on the cross, saying, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (27:46).
So throughout the Synoptic Gospels, Jesus teaches his students by boldly asking questions
while also showing what it means to be a student of the heavenly Father by boldly asking questions of
God.
Jesus also invites his disciples to boldly ask questions when he said, “Ask and it will be given
to you; search, and you will find; knock and the door will be opened for you. For everyone who asks
receives…” (Matthew 7:7). And furthermore, Jesus describes his role as teacher as one of gentle
patience, when he said, “Take my yoke upon you and learn from me for I am gentle and humble in
heart” (11:29).
In John, Jesus still asks questions, but more frequently tends to offer profound and sometimes
esoteric answers to questions that he himself is asked by his disciples (John 9:1-3 for instance).
From Bashful to Bold in Prayer
The above reflections caused us to consider how these insights from Pirkei Avot, the
Apophthegmata Patrum and the Gospels may impact our own spiritualities and our own relationship
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with the divine Teacher. The invitation from our readings was to move from bashfulness to boldness in
our own prayer life while opening our eyes to those aspects of our tradition, which encourage and
exemplify that movement. As disciples of Jesus, many of us learned to accept that we are invited to
bring our own questions to God in prayer. And if we want to learn and grow in Christ, we ought not be
bashful in our prayers. The words from the Epistle to the Hebrews resonated with fuller meaning in
light of our reflections: “Let us therefore approach the throne of grace with boldness, so that we may
receive mercy and find grace” (Hebrews 4:16).
For her final paper, one student delved deeper still into this theme of boldness before God in
exploring and comparing the Genesis passage in which Abraham “barters with God” to spare Sodom
(Genesis 18) with a story in the Islamic Hadith in which Muhammad “barters with God” via Moses
about the number of prayers Muslims must pray each day. The student initially approached the Genesis
passage with “fear and trembling,” deeply disturbed by God’s violent judgment of Sodom even after
Abraham’s bold bartering, wondering why God would even indulge Abraham at all if God already
knew the outcome. However, after comparing the text to the story in the Hadith and reading a homily
from John Chrysostom, which emphasized the long-suffering patience of God in Genesis 18, the
student came to a profound conclusion. She wrote, “We look for a comparative moment in
comparative theology. My moment came early on when I started to change my question from, ‘did
God know in advance that there were not ten righteous souls in Sodom?’, to ‘why was God so patient
with the prophets?’ God gives us every opportunity to follow the Law, the Gospels, and the Qur’an.
My parting gift is the belief that God is indeed long suffering as described by Chrysostom and Allah is
Most Compassionate as described in the Qur’an.”15 The student’s conclusion helps us to see God’s
patient response to our bold questions. My own reflections on the class and our readings urged me to
15 Maura McKenney, “When the Bargain is Naught? A Comparative Study of Abraham and Muhammad’s Dialogue with God” for “Comparative Theology as Spiritual Practice” GTU SPHR 4705, taught by Professors Dan Jolsyn-Siemiatkoski and Daniel London, December 12, 2011.
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see God as also patient in waiting for us to lay aside our bashfulness in prayer in order to engage with
God more boldly and therefore learn and grow.
By engaging deeply with Hillel’s words in Pirkei Avot and the Jewish practice of chavruta we
began to practice less bashfulness and more boldness and patience both as students and teachers. As a
result, we began to see how our own tradition encourages and exemplifies the movement from
bashfulness to boldness both in learning and spiritual growth. Pirkei Avot acted as an effective catalyst
to help us re-examine our own tradition and to see the call to boldness in learning and prayer in desert
literature, in the Gospels, in the Torah and even in the Hadith. As a result, we were urged to not leave
our evil inclination outside the door of our prayer closet, but to actually bring our evil inclination (our
boldness) with us to God in prayer. We even began to imagine God as Rabbi Yochanan inviting us to
be like Resh Lakish, prodding us to bring our evil inclination to Him in prayer, just as Dan and I
patiently prodded our students to bring their boldness and questions to class.
In this age of easily accessible information, the teacher-student relationship is clearly becoming
more than a passing on of knowledge. By engaging with a particular teaching outside of our tradition
(a specific mishna of Pirkei Avot), we were able to experience the teacher-student relationship as
something much more than a passing on of information. We began to experience the relationship as
one that inspired boldness in the students and patience in the professors while also urging us to see our
relationship with the Divine Teacher in a new light.