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THINKING OUT LOUD: EXPLORING THE DYNAMICS OF STUDENT ENGAGEMENT
WITHIN FACILITATED WHOLE-CLASS DIALOGUES
A Dissertation
Presented to
The Faculty of the School of Education
Texas Wesleyan University
In Partial Fulfillment
of the Requirements for the Degree
Doctor of Education in Curriculum and Instruction
by
Jeffrey Herr
May 2015
THINKING OUT LOUD: EXPLORING THE DYNAMICS OF STUDENT ENGAGEMENT
WITHIN FACILITATED WHOLE-CLASS DIALOGUES
JEFFREY HERR
Approved:
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Dissertation Chair
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Committee Member
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Committee Member
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Director, Doctoral Program
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Dean, School of Education
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© 2015 by Jeffrey T. Herr
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THINKING OUT LOUD: EXPLORING THE DYNAMICS OF STUDENT ENGAGEMENT
WITHIN FACILITATED WHOLE-CLASS DIALOGUES
ABSTRACT
Jeffrey Herr
This study was designed to explore early adolescent, student-to-student vocal utterances
in relationship to teacher-presented textual dilemmas and student-generated topics during
teacher-facilitated whole-class discussions. Through this study, grade 7 English/Language Arts
students’ vocal expressions were observed and analyzed to better understand the dynamics of
their discussions, as those reveal three modes of thinking out loud: exploratory, disputational,
and cumulative talk. Student-participants chosen from one class of English/Language Arts at a
North Texas charter school were examined for a period of four months using a qualitative,
ethnographic design. The researcher in the current study served as an active participating
observer, facilitating talks and collecting and analyzing narrative transcripts while performing
duties as the sample class’s teacher-of-record. Findings gleaned from this study indicated that the
foundations for enacting vocal exploratory communities of inquiry depended on four attributes:
the presentation of succinct, textual dilemmas, the syntactical wording of topic-questions, the
social dynamics of seventh-grade participants, and the importance of facilitator interjections
throughout.
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
I would like to express my sincere appreciation to my Committee Chair, Dr. Twyla
Miranda, whose guidance, diligence, encouragement, and serenity (in seemingly all situations)
has mentored me through this “steady march” toward degree completion. Without her tireless
efforts in consistent service as the liaison between me and my committee, this project would not
have come to fruition in the timely fashion that it did.
I am also indebted to my committee members, two wise sages of philosophy, Dr. Ron
McManus and Dr. Nakia Pope. Their willingness to comment on my drafts and to offer enduring
advice for revisions helped me to stretch my thinking and prepare a more cohesive paper. A
special thanks should also be extended to two doctoral program professors who have forged an
indelible niche, contributing to my growth as both a thinker and a teaching professional (and
were with me literally every step of the way) – Dr. Aileen Curtin and Dr. Celia Wilson.
The support provided me at home has always proved to be the most indelible of attributes
in which to honor. My parents, Joe and Cheryl Herr, have always stood steadfast to provide for
the well-being of me and my family. Their concern for their children and grandchildren have
been undying and monumental. Though my quest to achieve this degree started and stalled and
started again, my wife, Christina, would never allow me to let those initial dream-like sparks
flicker out. She has demonstrated more than ever (throughout my doctoral program and this
dissertation process) that the giving of one’s self has so many avenues in which to provide. Many
times throughout this process she has whole-heartedly doubled and tripled her extending reach of
dutiful love to accommodate my pursuits. Our four children, Emerson, Isabella, Redding, and
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Vadin, have also endured my sojourns to the back-room to sit and write for extended weeks and
months. It is for them that I continue to drive and push forward persistently.
I owe a special expanse of gratitude to my school, CKA, and to this study’s participants
and their families. Without their agreements allowing me to mine such a non-traditional
collection of data, the current study would have not been conducted in the same way, with me as
the facilitator as well as active participant. Noteworthy throughout my dissertation process has
been the unwavering support of my principal, Kurtis Flood. His belief in the benefits of shared
ideals which emerge from discourse and for allowing me the daily freedom to challenge
traditional methods of teaching, have not gone unnoticed.
I would be remiss in forgetting to express gratitude to my university, Texas Wesleyan,
which holds a special place in my heart. It was here that I first experienced true Socratic talk
(thank you, Dr. McManus); met my mentor and the person I most aspire to emulate, the late Dr.
Ron Reed; first found that questions are more important than answers; and learned from the
greatest respecter of opinions -- in class or out, Dr. Twyla Miranda. Over the past 25 years, I
have attended and graduated from Texas Wesleyan three times with degrees progressing through
three increasing tiers. I realize now that it was the talk that kept me coming back to Wesleyan –
the back-and-forth expression of ideas and opinions in which I have not been privy to elsewhere.
It was the hope of gaining intra-mental, personal knowledge that led me back to Wesleyan time
and again. Now I venture out again with the promise that that wisdom will be shared with the
confidence to embrace the wonder of opportunities to think out loud.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
List of Tables xiv
Chapter Page
I. Introduction to the Study
Background of the Problem 2
From Control to Collaboration: Dialogue as Teaching 2
Dialogic Norms for the Classroom 6
Structuring an Environment for Exploratory Talk 8
Other Social Modes of Thinking 12
Texts for Thinking 14
Studies in Thinking out Loud 16
Need for the Study 17
Significance of the Study 19
Research Questions 19
Limitations and Delimitations of the Study 20
Limitations 20
Delimitations 20
Definition of Terms 21
Chapter I Summary 24
II. Review of Related Literature
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Toward a More Engaged Pedagogy 31
From Praxis to Reasoning: Theories and Empirical Studies 33
Piaget, Vygotsky and a Psychology of Thinking 36
Bahktin, Vygotsky and Freire: The Dialogic and the Dialectic 38
Absolutism, Subjectivism and a Middle Theory 39
Empirical Results from Class Dialogues 41
Dialectical Influences 51
The Origins of Philosophy for Children 53
Community of Inquiry within Philosophy for Children 55
Community of Inquiry as a Catalyst for Critical Thinking 57
Creative Thinking: Engagement within a Community of Inquiry 58
Caring Thinking: The Expression of Empathy within CoI 59
Community of Inquiry as a Process of Reflective Thought 60
Toward an Emergence of Exploratory Talk 61
Explaining the Process of Community Dialogue 65
Necessary Shifts in the Role of a Dialectical Teacher 66
The Facilitator’s Role 67
The Facilitator as a Bridge toward Student Reflectivity 69
The Participant’s Role 71
Criticisms of Philosophy for Children 74
Chapter II Summary 78
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III. Methodology
Introduction 80
Research Questions 81
Research Design 81
Researcher Identity 83
The Background of the Researcher as a Learner 83
The Background of the Researcher as a Constructivist Teacher 85
The Researcher’s Experience at Core Knowledge Academy 87
The Participants and the Setting 87
Setting Foundations 87
The Core Knowledge Approach and the Trivium Hierarchy 88
Further Description of Core Knowledge Academy 91
A Current Site Description of Core Knowledge Academy 93
Participant Selection 95
Data Collection 96
Doing Class Dialogue 100
Timeline 106
Treatment of the Data 108
Provisions for Trustworthiness 111
Chapter III Summary 112
IV. Analysis of Data 113
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Purpose of the Study 113
Research Questions 113
Chapter Overview 114
Part I: Discourse Analysis 115
Class Dialogue 1 – September 5, 2014: Non-Textually Generated Topic
(21:00) 115
Class Dialogue 2 – September 11, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma
Text – “The Heinz Dilemma” (24:00) 130
Class Dialogue 3 – September 19, 2014: Traditional/Classical Fiction –
“The Necklace” (28:30) 143
Class Dialogue 4 – September 29, 2014: Factual Narrative – “Shooting an
Elephant” (26:56) 155
Class Dialogue 5 – October 3, 2014: Non-Textually Generated Topic
(35:45) 166
Class Dialogue 6 – October 9, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Text –
“Frederick” (32:20) 177
Class Dialogue 7 – October 24, 2014: Classical Fiction – “The Tell-Tale
Heart” (30:04) 190
Class Dialogue 8 – October 30, 2014: Factual Narrative – “The Night the
Bed Fell” (29:19) 202
Class Dialogue 9 – November 7, 2014: Non-Textually Generated Topic
(41:13) 212
Class Dialogue 10 – November 14, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma
Text – “The Runaway Trolley” (39:06) 225
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Class Dialogue 11 – November 21, 2014: Classical Fiction – “A Sound of
Thunder” (33:31) 238
Class Dialogue 12 – December 4, 2014: Factual Narrative – “Infamy
Speech” (34:04) 248
Class Dialogue 13 – December 12, 2014: Non-Textually Generated Topic
(28:10) 257
Class Dialogue 14 – December 18, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma
Text – “The Afghan Goatherds” (36:46) 269
Part II: Textual and Non-Textual Influences 281
Dialogues 1, 5, 9, and 13: Non-Textually Generated Topics 282
Dialogues 2, 6, 10, and 14: Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas 292
Dialogues 3, 7, and 11: Traditional/Classical Fiction 301
Dialogues 4, 8, and 12: Factual Narratives 308
Summary of Findings for Research Question 1 316
Part III: Disputes, Agreements, and Community of Inquiry 322
Summary of Findings for Research Question 2 335
Part IV: Ground-Rules Review and Exploratory Talk 336
Summary of Findings for Research Questions 3 348
Chapter IV Summary 348
V. Summary, Conclusions, Implications and Recommendations 350
Survey of the Study 350
Brief Overview of the Problem 350
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Purpose Statement and Research Questions 352
Review of the Study Design 353
Summary of Findings 357
The Presence of a Dilemma 357
Elapsed Time between Read-Alouds and Class Discussions 358
Text Evidence and Vocal Participation 359
Topic-Question Syntax and Engagement Dynamics 359
Influences of Mainly-Exploratory Participants 362
Influences of Argument Sequences on Modes of Discourse 363
Student Participation and Its Effect on Modes of Discourse 366
Gender and Its Effects on Modes of Discourse 368
Facilitator Participation and Its Effects on Discourse 369
Thinking Out Loud and the Emergence of CoI 371
The Effect of Procedural Norms on Exploratory Talk 372
Conclusions 373
The Emergence of Lead-Speakers and Less-Assertive Speakers 373
The Importance of Dilemmas and Timing 374
Non-Textually Generated Discussions and the Advent of Disputes 376
Topic-Question Construction and the Importance of Syntax 377
The Effects of Ground-Rules and Interjections on Discourse 378
Implications for Practice 381
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Recommendations for Future Research 382
Concluding Remarks 383
References 385
Biographical Note 399
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LIST OF TABLES
Table Page
1. Philosophy for Children and Socratic Method 78
2. Textual Listing from the Grade 7 Core Knowledge Sequence 92
3. Philosophy for Children Transcript Example (11-12 year-olds): Do you think all
the time or just some of the time? 98
4. Questions to Stimulate Philosophical Discussion of Stories 102
5. Potential Post-Dialogue Interview Questions for Participants 105
6. Dialogue Schedule 108
7. Discourse Analysis Coding Scheme 111
8. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 1 122
9. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 2 135
10. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 3 146
11. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 4 157
12. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 5 171
13. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 6 183
14. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 7 193
15. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 8 207
16. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 9 217
17. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 10 227
18. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 11 241
19. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 12 254
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20. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 13 264
21. Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 14 278
22. Non-Textually Generated Dialogue Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves 284
23. Categorized Explorations: Non-Textually Generated Questions 286
24. Categorized Disputes: Non-Textually Generated Questions 288
25. Facilitator Moves to Student Explorations and Disputes: Non-Textual Talks 290
26. Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves 294
27. Categorized Explorations: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Questions 296
28. Categorized Disputes: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Questions 297
29. Facilitator Moves to Student Explorations and Disputes: Moral Dilemma Talks 298
30. Traditional/Classical Fiction Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves 302
31. Categorized Explorations: Traditional/Classical Fiction Questions 304
32. Categorized Disputes: Traditional/Classical Fiction Questions 305
33. Facilitator Moves to Student Explorations and Disputes: Fiction Talks 306
34. Factual Narrative Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves 310
35. Categorized Explorations: Factual Narrative Questions 311
36. Categorized Disputes: Factual Narrative Questions 312
37. Facilitator Moves to Student Explorations and Disputes: Factual Talks 315
38. Influential Dynamics Essential for Defining Whole-Class Dialogues 319
39. Exploratory Moves and Critical Inquiries Delivered According to Gender 321
40. Discourse Analysis Coding Scheme 356
41. Influential Dynamics Essential for Defining Whole-Class Dialogues 364
42. Total Explorations, Critical Inquiries, and Disputes Made by Lead-Speakers 366
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43. Exploratory Moves and Critical Inquiries Delivered According to Gender 368
44. Totals of Facilitator Moves in Comparison to Student Explorations and Disputes 370
THINKING OUT LOUD 1
CHAPTER I
Introduction to the Study
As civilized human beings, we are the inheritors, neither of an inquiry about ourselves
and the world, nor of an accumulating body of information, but of a conversation begun
in the primeval forest and extended and made more articulate in the course of centuries.
It is a conversation which goes on both in public and within each of ourselves. And it is
this conversation, in the end, that gives place and character to every human activity and
utterance (Reed, 1998, p. 55).
-Michael Oakeshott (20th Century Philosopher/Political Theorist)
For me, the coming together of the class is the divine vehicle. A set-up. A portal which
winds through the ages, delivering its audience to that first fireside, primeval circle – that place
from whence we observed, inquired, and inferred initially about the trials of the day. The hunt.
The journey. Events of grief and joy.
In this context a classroom becomes sacred. It is the community. A place where the
detachment of the individual merits credibility simply because his or her voice can be shared –
can be heard by another. Yet this phenomenon is but the half of it. It is the trigger (a painter’s
palate) allowing for a discovered return. The reply. An utterance filled with the observations,
questions, and inferences of the situation – the experience of thinking out loud. And so here
begins the dialogue – a step toward completeness – a coming together of voices under the
umbrella of a facilitated, more focused primer. This, to me, is from where an education stems. It
is this thinking out loud in the classroom that enables children to learn how to become human, to
learn to join the conversation that makes us distinctly human.
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Background of the Problem
From control to collaboration: dialogue as teaching.
Dewey (1916) asserted that our humanity becomes evident through our desires to accept
and nurture the experiences made possible by interactions with others. Democracy as an
indicator of humanity becomes the public ideal by which individuals become more human
through engagement in the practices and experiences of social contact. For Dewey (1916),
education served as the method for practicing democracy. Education’s overall aim, as claimed by
Dewey (1916), is to provide individuals the means to reflect and to solve problems in the
company of others – to assure our collaborative coming-together. To attain education’s potential
for instilling and maintaining democracy, as put forth by both Dewey (1916) and Freire (1970),
teachers, as facilitators of learning, must prove ever-mindful of the importance of education’s
relationship to civility.
Dewey (1916) posited that the teaching act should be more reactive than proactive, more
artful than procedural. According to Reed (1998), the task of teaching is to respond
appropriately, to assist the student in responding imaginatively, creatively, and critically to the
situation that presents itself. Try as we might to control the educational landscape or to control
situations that are “truly educational” each situation becomes “what it is and not what it is meant
to be” regardless of the influences from teacher, curriculum designer, or textbook writer (Reed,
1998, p. 55). Discovery, treading heavily on that bridge between the subjective and the objective,
takes place within a situation (Reed, 1998).
For a teacher, much can be said for mapping-out the situation -- thinking ahead, trying to
predict and having plans in place. Yet, in traditional education, this model has been too indebted
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toward coercing conformity and, likewise, discouraging the creative process of critical,
autonomous thinking (Boys, 1999; Cazden, 2001; Reed, 1998; Rogoff, 1990). As theorists from
Dewey (1896) to Piaget (1977) to Freire (1970) have postulated, relationships of constraint
justify the actions of the more powerful participant (the teacher), allowing him or her to impose
views on the less powerful participant (the child) while not feeling obligated to try to understand
the other’s position (Atwood et al., 2010; Cazden, 2001; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990). The
student in this relationship also contributes to this constraint by yielding to the teacher (not
because of his or her truthful views) from a sense of duty or from fear of the consequences of
disagreeing (Atwood et al., 2010). Even with that understood, the teacher, serving as a class’s
more authoritative member, can dissimilarly exist as a necessity within a constructivist setting
(Atwood et al., 2010). As observed by Lipman et al. (1980) and Mercer and Dawes (2008),
students, if left to discuss on their own, may become involved in non-productive talk, some
become left out of discussions, and any intent for collaborative growth becomes wasted. Here, as
proposed by Vygotsky (1978), the teacher as facilitator -- as authority, serves as a chaperone
toward a social intersubjectivity. However, within the traditional, authoritative realities of
teacher-student interactions, the potential power of spoken language is neither controlled
distinctly by the learner nor engaged commonly by facilitating teacher participants in most
educational settings (Cazden, 2001; Mercer & Dawes, 2008).
Within the traditional (and certainly the oldest) three-part sequence of teacher-student
interactions: teacher initiation, student response, and teacher evaluation (IRE), research indicates
that teachers tend to dominate the classroom talk (Burbules, 1993; Cazden, 2001; Nystrand,
1997; Rogoff, 1990). Whether by determining how stories are to be interpreted, regulating the
topic through questioning, controlling who is allowed to answer questions, and deciding if a
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response is correct, there is increasing concern regarding the restrictions imposed by the IRE
method of teacher-student interactions. Furthermore, within this recitation format, students rarely
respond to open-ended questions or even have the opportunity to think critically about complex
issues (Cazden, 2001; Clark et al., 2003).
A combination of student restraint, withdrawal, and fear of interacting not only deprives
students from sharing what they know, it denies the teacher and classmates from observing and
benefiting from what a given student might have to offer (Cazden, 2001; Mercer, 1999; Petress,
2001). Studies conducted over inquiry methods have navigated toward the idea of shared
thinking as a representation for how knowledge is formed (Anderson et al., 2001; Topping &
Trickey, 2007; Reznitskaya et al., 2009 & 2012). Within this fundamental shift in how we
conceive education, learning aims would become resultant of students’ social interactions in
regard to the construction of meaning – not only as individual achievements among participants
(Bandura, 2001; Wegerif & Mercer, 1997; Burbules & Bertram, 2001). Conclusively, the
primary aim of education must be to help children to use language effectively as a tool for
thinking collectively because the existence of classroom-based involvement in collaborative
thinking can make a noteworthy contribution to the advancement of individual children’s
intellectual ability (Mercer, 2004; Vygotsky, 1978).
Piaget (1977) proposed that the construction of knowledge is aided in cooperative
relationships. Constraining involvement quashes the enabling of a student’s ability to fully
explain his or her own position on an issue. Even when there has been a knowledge imbalance
due to a disconnection between teacher-student interactions, cooperative relationships have been
characterized by discussion, reciprocity, and mutual respect (Atwood et al., 2010).
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Lipman et al. (1980) and Boys (1999) advocated a more engaged pedagogical approach
whereby the ways of teaching stimulate learners to participate in creating collaborative
communities of learning that deal with matters of their own interest. These engaged pedagogies,
argued Boys (1999), require a commitment to dialogue and to critical reflection. In addition,
Taylor and Robinson (2009, p. 173) claimed not only that the benefits of dialogue prove essential
to an inquiry-driven curriculum but also that “life by its very nature is dialogic… to live means
to participate in dialogue.” Student voice, as a normal sensation, has its basis in an ethical and
moral practice which aims to give students the right of democratic participation in school
processes (Dewey, 1916; Taylor & Robinson, 2009).
In accordance with Oakeshott’s opening quotation, critical theorist, Paulo Freire, defined
dialogue as “the encounter between men, mediated by the world, to name the world” (Jackson &
Liu, 2008, p. 140). The principal idea supporting the sociocultural perspective on human
intellectual development is that personal growth is incorporated with the longer-term historical
development of our species through dialogic communication (Mercer, 2004). Historically,
dialogue, as a communication form consistent with the pluralistic principles of a democratic
society, has long been favored by educators concerned with empowering students to become
independent thinkers and active citizens (Dewey, 1916; Freire, 1970; Lipman, 1991; Reznitskaya
et al., 2009; Shor, 1992). A process of sustained facilitated discourse (accompanied by a
constructivist curriculum) helps students to develop a sense of their own and others’ identities
(Bourdage-Reninger & Rehark, 2009; Romney, 2005). Myhill (2006) argued that that is exactly
the purpose of such engaged, dialectical pedagogy – to scaffold students’ learning sensitivity so
that they are supported in making meaning and understanding for themselves. In this sense, as
Reznitskaya et al. (2009) discovered, truth is born between people interactively searching for
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truth. Bakhtin (1981) went so far as to claim that utterances have no meaning in and of
themselves but only have significance in the context of a dialogue which includes and rouses
different voices and different perspectives. Through this understanding, dialogue becomes more
than simply mere method – it becomes a way of life which calls for a certain attentiveness to the
skills and emotions that nurture its existence (Bahktin, 1981; Boys, 1999).
Dialogic norms for the classroom.
Many students, as found by Lipman et al. (1980) and Mercer and Dawes (2008), do not
know how to carry on a productive discussion or do not realize that collaborative dialogue is
what they are expected to do by their teacher. Teachers, in turn, many times assume incorrectly
that students know how to create productive discussions in the first place. In fact, the nature of
productive group dialogues is not normally something that teachers and students study, so they
go about classroom life without the benefit of a shared understanding of this important aspect of
social learning (Mercer & Dawes, 2008).
Contemporary employments of a dialogic, inquiry base within current curricula
emphasize collaboration among students in order to transform classrooms into self-correcting
communities of inquiry (Lipman et al., 1980; Young, 1992). In such constructions, learners build
on one another’s ideas as they work toward forming conclusions about significant questions that
are relevant to their lives (Young, 1992). One manner that the quality of talk in a classroom can
be improved, asserted by Mercer and Dawes (2008), is for a teacher to become more aware of
how he or she talks to students. However, in itself a teacher’s realization of his or her own usage
of classroom talk would not be enough; consideration of students’ developing talk repertoires
must also become paramount to understand (Mercer & Dawes, 2008). Teachers who hope to
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engage their students in a more authentic community of talk must alter roles from “being the
authority” to “being in authority” (Young, 1992, p. 103). They become co-inquirers who treat
students as cogent sources of knowledge and opinion (Lipman et al., 1980; Young, 1992).
In regard to method, it is imperative for dialogue participants to meet on equal terms
(with teacher-facilitators) and to take on key roles toward steering class talk – asking questions,
engaging in turn-management, and reacting to other’s answers (Cazden, 2001; Young, 1992).
Talk among students, as argued by Cazden (2001) and Mercer and Dawes (2008), is naturally
more symmetrical than the IRE model of teacher-student interactions allows – it is usually
acceptable for anybody to ask a question, to interrupt a speaker, and to disagree with an opinion.
Students (adolescents, as is the case of the current study) do not have to wait to be nominated to
speak, and they may often take long turns in speaking. Also, digressions into other topics besides
the educational pursuits at hand are considered more acceptable than during traditional teacher-
student talk (Mercer & Dawes, 2008; Reed, 1999).
Inquiry-based learning through dialogic teaching relies, foremost, on questions that are
truly divergent -- those which allow for a wider degree of uncertainty (Dewey, 1916; Lipman et
al., 1980). These questions function to encourage meaningful inquiry into new understandings
(Dewey, 1916; Fisher, 2013; Lipman et al., 1980; Reznitskaya et al., 2012). Moreover, lively
conversations, contended by Boys (1999), depend largely on a student’s ability to ask a good
question – one which draws from others a certain authenticity, extracting “real” speech from the
participants. Teachers, within this construct, facilitate the inquiry by helping students pay
attention to the quality of their reasoning rather than telling or leading participants to succinct
answers. Ideally, teachers should purposefully adopt a position of “scholarly ignorance”,
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refraining from having all the right answers or from simply providing them to students (Glina,
2013; Reed, 1992; Reznitskaya et al., 2012).
The attraction of this type of interaction exists in its communal quality – the room it gives
to different voices and the unexpected turns it may take. Dialogic conversations have flexible
rules of application and evidence allowing for all manner of impressions, ideas, and experiences
to enter (Bahktin, 1981; Boys, 1999). Students may get answers to questions they never thought
of asking but ought to have asked (Boys, 1999).
Accordingly, conversation has limits. The mere sharing of ignorance should not be
confused with dialogic inquiry. Beneficial, dialectic interactions depend upon a common textual
comprehension, attentive listening, regard for other participants, a recognition that each
participant knows more than he or she can say, and a willingness to restrain oneself in order to
hear others (Boys, 1999; Burbules, 1993; Grondin, 2011; Reed, 1992). Ultimately, this type of
power-shift in learning can supply children with the context in which to develop intellectual
capabilities, improve discussion skills and self-expression, and learn to work together by
amassing caring, creative, and critical ways for children to talk and think out loud in school
(Clark et al., 2003; Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 1991).
Structuring an environment for exploratory talk.
Mercer (2000) found that participants within a conversation learn from the experience of
talking when they share a similar understanding of how the exchange should be implemented.
Likewise, Lipman (2003) believed that in order for a community of dialogic inquiry to exist,
students must agree to share in a pursuit to mutually recognize a group-need for a commitment to
reason: a pledge to suspend an individual’s direct beliefs in favor of collective developments.
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Both researchers, Lipman (2003) and Mercer (2000), came to agree that conversations travel on
roads of context constructed of common knowledge -- consistent frames of reference about how
a dialogue should be carried forth. Both also supported the idea that dialogic discussions occur
when students accept a common frame of reference about the way collective thinking operates,
and this becomes evident in the participants’ adoption of established ground rules (Bourdage-
Reninger & Rehark, 2009; Lipman, 2003; Mercer, 2000).
Douglas Barnes (1976), independent from the writings of Lipman (2003), described an
interactive model of collective student talk that, when implemented, serves as a springboard
toward the creation of communities of inquiry. Barnes’ (1976) moniker for talk that involves
thinking with others became known as exploratory talk. Exploratory talk, according to Wegerif
(1996), is a kind of interaction which combines clear reasoning through talk involving
distinguishable hypothesis, challenges and reasons, with a cooperative framework of ground-
rules accentuating the shared nature of the activity and the importance of the active partaking of
all involved. Mercer (2000) added that exploratory talk is that in which ideas are engaged upon
by groups both critically and constructively. Similarly to Lipman’s (1980) guidelines for the
classroom dialogic program, Philosophy for Children, exploratory talk places precedence on the
idea that relevant information should be offered for joint consideration and eventual group
agreement (Mercer, 2000). Also comparable to the norms of Philosophy for Children, during
exploratory talk, student proposals may be challenged and counter-challenged, but in this regard,
reasons must be given and alternative ideas offered (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). By engaging in
exploratory talk, as with Philosophy for Children, participants are to maintain a certain
psychological detachment from their own beliefs and from the unreasoned beliefs of the group
(Wegerif & Mercer, 1997; Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003). This does not mean that all that is
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spoken in dialogue should be accepted as automatic truth or a voice of reason; however, it does
become necessary for students here to engage with and to share the perspectives of others in
order to understand them. Consistent within participation of exploratory talk (as well as within
the aims of Philosophy for Children) is the notion that participants ultimately identify neither
with one’s own self nor with the group but rather with the dialogue (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
This act of suspending belief, according to Lipman et al. (1980) and Fisher (2013), is at the root
of critical thought. In order for an individual learner to truly think deeply and reflectively, he or
she must be primed to suspend their own truth for the sake of allowing others a platform in
which to think out loud. From this temporary, mental acquiescence, the seeds of social learning
are planted – the beliefs of the group can become critically acknowledged, opening avenues of
learning intended by the dialogic process (Fisher, 2013; Lipman et al., 1980; Vygotsky, 1978;
Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). The resulting effect becomes that when engaged in exploratory talk,
“the speaker is more concerned with sorting out his or her own thoughts” (Barnes, 2008, p. 4).
Many times, teachers assume that students know how to involve themselves in productive
discussions. In fact, the nature of becoming involved in quality forms of discourse (in the context
of group, inquiry-based learning) is not normally a topic of teacher-student considerations
(Cazden, 2001; Mercer & Dawes, 2008). The result of such neglect contributes to a general lack
of shared understanding of how best to engage in classroom critical talk (Mercer & Dawes,
2008). However, a situation can be created, contend Mercer and Dawes (2008), whereby the
collective expression, analysis, and evaluation of ideas becomes a collective enterprise. For such
collaborative dialogue to manifest itself within educational settings, a sense of trust, common
endeavor, and a shared understanding of how to engage in a productive discussions must be
made apparent to teachers and students alike. Thus, from a more dialogic perspective, specified
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and agreed upon ground rules must be established and abided by for the exploratory
implementation of Community of Inquiry to take shape (Fisher, 2013; Lipman et al., 1980;
Mercer & Dawes, 2008). The enactment of set, consistent ground-rules in pursuit of Community
of Inquiry through exploratory talk proves essential for both teachers and students progressing
toward the process of thinking out loud. The ground-rules of exploratory talk allow for
challenges and disagreement but these are contained within the cooperative social framework
which is actively maintained and facilitated (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). The following list should
be understood by practitioners of exploratory talk (Mercer & Dawes, 2008, p. 12):
participants engage critically but constructively with each other’s ideas
everyone participates
tentative, unclear ideas are treated with respect
ideas offered for joint consideration may be challenged
challenges are justified and alternative ideas or understandings are offered
opinions are sought after and considered before decisions are jointly made
knowledge is made publically accountable (and so reasoning is visible in the talk)
Though it was found by Lipman (2003) and, later, by Mercer and Littleton (2007) that
raising awareness of the importance of critical, creative, and caring dialogue while teaching
students how to make it happen does increase the occurrences of exploratory talk, there exists at
least two other communicative relationships that embody different ways of thinking together.
While exploratory talk embodies the concept of communicative rationality, both disputational
and cumulative forms of talk also represent ways in which students orient themselves towards
each other in a dialogue (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
Other social modes of thinking.
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Although not as productive for developing the facets of critical, creative, and caring
reflection as exploratory talk, the social modes of disputational and cumulative talk do in fact
emerge out of the same generative questions posed for class dialogues (Mercer et al., 1999;
Mercer & Dawes, 2008; Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). Characterized by disagreement and
individualized decision making, disputational talk allows only few instances for students to offer
constructive criticism to each other. Discourse features of disputational talk indicate short
exchanges consisting of claims and challenges or counter contentions. Each speaker engaged in
disputational talk defines themselves through their difference with others – which emerges
contrary to the aims of exploratory talk (Mercer et al., 1999; Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
Participants engaged disputationally treat collaboration as a competitive game between
individuals each having their own interests. What is said is motivated by the desire to defend or
to promote the interests of the speaker in disagreement to the interests of the others. Much of
what disputational talk embodies arises in the form of argument for the sake of self-satisfaction
(Mercer et al., 1999; Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
Cumulative talk, quite the contrary to both exploratory and disputational talk, develops as
a mode of thinking in which students build positively but uncritically on what the others have
said (Mercer et al., 1999; Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). Participants using cumulative voice use talk
to construct a mutual knowledge by amassing favor from the group. Cumulative talk is
cooperative talk and can in fact lead to knowledge creation through the sharing of perspectives;
however, it is limited from an educational, reflective standpoint in that it does not produce
critically grounded knowledge. Cumulative discourse is characterized by repetitions, validations
from others, and elaborations in the form of anecdotal utterances – personal narratives and
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digressions that lead discussions away from critical exploration (Mercer et al., 1999; Reed, 1992;
Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
In comparison to disputational and cumulative talk, one would expect exploratory talk to
lead to a construction of new knowledge and understanding (Barnes, 1999). In accordance, as
argued by Mercer (1995):
“Exploratory talk, by incorporating both conflict and the open sharing of ideas,
represents the more visible pursuit of rational consensus through conversation.
More than the other two types, it is like the kind of talk, which has been found
most effective for solving problems through collaborative activity” (Mercer,
1995, p. 105).
Exploratory talk, in summation, appears to be more complex than either disputational or
cumulative talk; however, it would be a mistake to dismiss the potential qualities of both
disputational and cumulative talk for generating new knowledge altogether (Wegerif & Mercer,
1997; Barnes, 1999). A potential positive outcome from engaging in disputational and
cumulative talk is that immersion in both may prove useful toward inciting students to think
more about the problem or topic at hand. Apt facilitators constructively use digressions into
disputational and cumulative discourse as points of reminder of the ground rules essential to the
maintenance of more exploratory, critical talk.
In any case, these three modes of thinking out loud -- disputational, cumulative, and
exploratory talk -- are not meant to be descriptive categories into which all observed speech can
be tidily and separately coded, but they are presented as analytic categories that epitomize ways
in which children talk together in collaborative inquiries (Wegerif & Mercer, 1996). However, it
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is in pursuit of exploratory talk that teachers and students should strive. It is during exploratory
talk that the instant and affirmative “yes” of acceptance (cumulative) and the instant “no” of self-
defense (disputational) are both deferred so that a dialogue of difference is established (Mercer et
al., 1999; Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
Texts for thinking out loud.
To be full participants in a literate, democratic, multicultural society, populations in the
future will necessitate capacities to reflect, to think critically, to question the information they are
given, and to be flexible and creative in their aptitude for solving problems. If an objective of
national standards is to bid children to become critical thinkers and readers, it follows that
children should be shown models of critical reading, introducing them to contexts whereby
higher-order thinking is practiced and valued (Cochran-Smith, Feiman-Nemser, McIntyre, &
Demers, 2008; Fisher, 2013; Lipman et al., 1980).
As narrative comprehension is one of the earliest interests to spark the mind and
imagination of a child, so it also serves as the most broadly used way of shaping human
experience. It is the ability of stories to create imaginative yet possible worlds that enlighten
inquiry (Fisher, 2013). Stories, suggested by Lipman et al. (1980) and Fisher (2013), free us from
our present situations while prevailing as life-like, intellectual creations. Stories become
comprehended in a way that makes them mentally challenging yet fixed in human concerns
(Fisher, 2013; Wartenberg, 2009). Stories provide that window for us to glimpse the ways of the
world and the ways of ourselves. And since stories and texts are human creations, they
necessitate acts of translation, of critical reading and thinking, if they are to be made significant
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to the hearer or reader. The meanings of stories must be reconstructed in the mind (Fisher, 2013;
Wartenberg, 2009).
Class dialogues instigated from traditional story-telling sessions do not necessarily
provide contexts for intellectual or moral reflection. In practice, they often lack the pedagogical
context for engaging students in critical discussion (Coles, 1994). However, equally thought-
provoking texts (in lieu of traditional stories) considered ideal for sparking student inquiry are
comprised of the more stylistically-diminished dilemma narratives and philosophical novels
written by Lawrence Kohlberg and Matthew Lipman (Fisher, 2013).
Kohlberg’s primary suggestion for stimulating moral reflection and critical thought was
through using carefully comprised scenarios (most famously, “The Heinz Dilemma”) whereby
students talk to solve relational, real-life practical problems (Kohlberg, 1981). A further
deepening of students’ experience with problem-solving, as indicated by Bloom et al. (1956), can
take place when students are expected to take the position or role of one of the characters from a
scenario and argue from that perspective during class discourse. Likewise, Lipman’s constructed
Philosophy for Children program includes a number of philosophical novels (most famously,
Harry Stottlemeier’s Discovery, 1982) that, according to Lipman (1988), have as a central theme
conflicts of the human mind, and a single intent - to function as catalysts for intellectual debate.
A decisive drawback to the novels, as argued by Coles (1994), is that they are not effective
stories in any literary sense. Criticism from Coles (1994) disclosed that Lipman’s novels do not
hold student interests as stories, yet Lipman (1988) viewed this to be an advantage. From his
perspective, traditional books and stories that students likewise read do not include a rich variety
of philosophical questions, nor do they necessarily offer models of characters as inquiring
thinkers. On this accord, students have been historically provided with books in which anything
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problematic (in terms of everyday dilemmas or philosophic problems) has been removed.
Opponents of this assessment argue that traditional stories (such as Sophie’s World by Jostein
Gaarder, 1991) and the best of children's novels and picture books (such as Frederick’s Fables
by Leo Lionni, 1985) are filled of philosophic curiosities that serve as promoters of critical
inquiry (Coles, 1994; Fisher, 2013; Wartenberg, 2009; Wilks, 1995).
Various non-fiction forms of narrative can also be of interest in prompting exploratory
talk. Popular versions of great worldly mysteries and current news stories prove suitable for
eliciting inquiry and class discussion. Aside from analysis of news content itself, investigating
the angles that differing news organizations and media report the same story can provide plenty
of opportunity for questioning at both literal and moral/philosophical levels. Coupled with the
advent of more easy means for classrooms to gain access to the world of news, current issues of
concern provide students timely and imperative matters for deliberation (Fisher, 2013).
Shor (1992) posited that there exists no greater chance to provoke more free and
exploratory class discourse than by allowing students chances to generate their own topics for
inquiry. Shor (1992) determined that with the emergence of student derived, topical insets into
the Community of Inquiry, participants were more likely to delve securely into the third idiom of
group interaction: a flow of dialogic inquiry free of the IRE teacher-led talk of traditional
learning. According to Shor (1992), it is these generative dilemmas that bridge the schism
between non-academic, social language (the first idiom) and academic, teacher-talk (the second
idiom). Dialogue within the third idiom proves both concrete and conceptual, academic and
conversational, critical and accessible (Shor, 1992).
Studies in thinking out loud.
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Multiple studies comparing individual cognitive advances of students participating in
peer dialogues as opposed to regular, direct instruction have shown: increased student reflection,
greater student-control of ideas, greater aptitude for learning in a collaborative setting, and a
greater formation of foundations for critical reflection (Anderson et al., 2001; Topping &
Trickey, 2007; Reznitskaya et al., 2009 & 2012.) These discoveries (having indicated growth of
individual reflective awareness through dialogic participation) were gleaned from studies
focused on recognizing resulting aptitudes directly related to quantitative analytics stemming
from elementary students’ involvement in class discourses (Anderson et al., 2001; Lipman, 1988,
1995, 2003; Burbules, 1993; Reznitskaya et al., 2012). Although these findings, when compared
separately with results gathered from regular, direct instruction, have shown significant increases
in students’ social and verbal skills, little knowledge exists that describes the observed processes
by which early adolescents actively contribute to the development of personal critical, reflective
literacy during peer dialogues.
Need for the Study
With a lion share of classroom discussion studies linked to the evaluation and analysis of
results stemming from assessments of post-discussion reasoning measures (Anderson et al.,
2001; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 1999; Moshman & Geil, 1998; Reznitskaya et al., 2001;
Reznitskaya et al., 2009; Topping & Trickey, 2007), the current study explored the qualitative
dynamics of students thinking out loud vocally during whole-class dialogues. While most
empirical research on dialogic reasoning has explored the cognitive gains students might achieve
in the aftermath of facilitated philosophical talks (Moshman & Geil, 1998; Reznitskaya et al.,
2001; Reznitskaya et al., 2009; Topping & Trickey, 2007), this study examined the connections
between the textual tools applied to initiate critical discourse and the utterances adolescents
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naturally provide during the talks. Although a fairly wide range of research has been conducted
analyzing the dynamics that take place during and after dialogic efforts with varying
classifications of students (Anderson et al., 2001; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 1999; Moshman &
Geil, 1998; Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Reznitskaya et al., 2009; Topping & Trickey, 2007), the
aim of this inquiry was to evaluate and synthesize the exploratory, disputational, and cumulative
utterances which occurred during whole-class talks with early adolescents. In this case, differing
modes of critical-dilemma texts on level for adolescents (e.g. Harry Stottlemeier’s Discovery,
Bradbury’s “A Sound of Thunder”, Orwell’s “Shooting an Elephant”, “Frederick”, “The Heinz
Dilemma”, and Sandel’s “The Runaway Trolley”) were applied in order to elicit student vocal
engagement. Because the comprehension level of the dilemmas presented was tied to more
abstract constructions of understanding, adolescents who were entering the early stages of
Piaget’s (1977) formal operational stage of cognitive development were studied. Within the
study, grade 7 English/Language Arts students were exposed to both teacher-chosen textual
paradoxes and student-generated dilemmas of interest in exploration of the relationships present
between these prompts and the students’ verbal thoughts. In essence, this study helped to extend
the knowledge of findings related to student-to-student interactions within whole-class talks and
provided exploratory evidence to trigger further research into the relationships between
adolescent philosophical talk and the texts and prompts that initiate those talks.
Secondarily, because facilitated student talk as a product of immersion into certain texts
is not guaranteed to result in Community of Inquiry, observations and examinations of
relationships to other modes of discourse require scholarly evaluation. Exploratory talk, though
most desired and pursued in quests for critical, creative, and caring interactions, is not all that
may emerge in any given dialogic setting. Merits (and/or drawbacks) of disputational and
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cumulative talk should also be interpreted and analyzed. It was an aim of the current study to
explore the dynamics of student philosophical talk as it naturally occurs from the presentations of
various stories and prompts.
Significance of the Study
Here, research purposefully designed to explore the existence of philosophical
communities of inquiry, as potentially created through initiations into exploratory talk, proved to
be a melding of two theories of discourse-understanding: dialectic and dialogic. Findings noted
here helped to extend the knowledge indicative of existent relationships that textual and student-
generated dilemmas had on modes of talk and thought, combining the theories of Barnes (1976),
Vygotsky (1978), Shor (1992), Mercer (2000) and Lipman (2003). In addition, the examination
of a group of adolescents thinking out loud provided useful conclusions to an existent body of
knowledge tied frequently to elementary-aged students (Anderson et al., 2001; Dong, Anderson,
Kim, & Li, 2008; Kim, 2001; Wegerif, Mercer, & Dawes, 1999; Reznitskaya, Anderson, & Kuo,
2007; Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Reznitskaya et al., 2009).
Research Questions
Research question 1: How do traditional/classical stories, philosophical stories/moral
dilemmas, factual narratives, and non-textually generated prompts influence early adolescents’
thinking out loud within facilitated whole-class dialogues?
Research question 2: Can Community of Inquiry exist in the included presence of
disputational and cumulative talk?
Research question 3: Do ground-rules promoting exploratory talk influence its actuality?
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Limitations and Delimitations of the Study
Limitations.
As a qualitative exploration into the outward thinking that happens when adolescents talk
as a whole class (due to state and locally controlled curricular mandates), dialogue situations
were limited to one facilitation per week, a marginal number of 25 participants were observed
and interviewed, and potential biases of the researcher as an active participant factored into the
collection of data. While the current study examined the dialogic talk of only one class of grade 7
English/Language Arts students at one particular charter school in North Texas, it faced
additional limitations instituted by state and local curricular restrictions placed on consistent
efforts to engage students in dialogical interactions. While these students had the opportunity to
interact at length for over 30 minutes in each of the 14 designated class periods, an attendance
schedule mandating that classes meet every other day (A/B block schedule implementation)
caused an inhibitor: follow-up activities such as a post-dialogue survey and the completion of
previously started K-W-L charts had to be finished during the class period following the
observed discussions. However, as is the case with many studies involving extended research
with a small number of specific human subjects (17-25 students), the risk of study duplication
was not jeopardized (Creswell, 1997; DeWalt & DeWalt, 2011; Glesne, 2011; Malinowski,
1929). Here, the effort to replicate was diminished due to the circumstance that the researcher
served as the facilitator for all observed class dialogues. The bias of familiarity between
researcher and subjects exists, as every aspect of the observation process involves the
concentrated interactions of both (Creswell, 1997; DeWalt & DeWalt, 2011; Glesne, 2011;
Malinowski, 1929).
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Delimitations.
Even though the researcher-as-participant did invite the emergence of a potential social
bias between investigator and participants within this study, the benefits of such close
involvement between researcher and subjects was also shown to result in in-depth and extensive
findings (Creswell, 1997; DeWalt & DeWalt, 2011; Glesne, 2011; Malinowski, 1929). The
administered facilitation technique during the current study (especially in regard to caring-talk)
allowed for interactive comfort to be achieved due to multiple occurrences of interactions. The
overall experience-level of the facilitator likewise aided to push these observed dialogues
forward toward scholarship. As the examination of one class of seventh-graders limited this
study in terms of research replication, this isolation also allowed for a type of honesty and
realism to be inserted into the talks (Creswell, 1997; Dewalt & Dewalt, 2011; Glesne, 2011;
Malinowski, 1929). Within this study, the students also achieved an accustomed uniformity in
their interactions over time; therefore a continual change in dilemma prompts categories had to
happen from one talk to the next throughout this study in order to preserve a certain originality to
thinking out loud.
Definition of Terms
caring thinking/talk (Gilligan, 1977; Noddings, 1984) – honest and diligent concern and respect
from speaker to listener during Community of Inquiry
Community of Inquiry (Lipman et al., 1980) - whole-class, student-driven dialogue built on
student-initiated questions stemming from a paradoxical text; talks focus on the examination of
critical, creative, and caring elements of speech and thought
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critical thinking/critical reflection – neutral thinking as a suspension to actual, personal beliefs in
order to understand from social interactions
cumulative talk (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997) – uncritical talk in which students consistently agree
with previous speakers
dialectic – Vygotskyan (1978) theory of group talk that presupposes that differences are
contradictions to be overcome
dialogic – Bahktinian (1981) theory of group talk that presupposes that meaning arises only in
the context of difference
dialogue - a group conversation about an intended topic
dilemma – a paradoxical prompt initiated for class discussions; in the case of this study it might
be philosophical, traditional, factual, or topical
disputational talk (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997) – group talk that is characterized by disagreement
and individualized decision making
dynamics – for this study it is the myriad of interactions that student have with each other when
involved in dialogue
engagement - verbal utterances resembling participation on-topic during a class dialogue
exploratory talk (Barnes, 1976) – group talk in which speakers engage critically but
constructively with each other’s ideas
facilitator – the participating teacher involved with a class dialogue
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factual narrative (Fisher, 2013) – pieces of non-fiction (news stories and commentaries) used to
instigate discussion
formal operational stage – final level of Piaget’s (1977) phases of cognitive development
whereby the emergence of abstract thought becomes present; this stage is achieved by children in
early adolescence
generated dilemmas – student-presented topics for discussion related to issues directly affecting
themselves
inquiry-based learning - describes approaches to learning that are based on the investigation of
questions, scenarios or problems -- often assisted by a facilitator
intermental – Vygotskyan (1978) term signifying a shared understanding resulting from
dialectical interaction
intramental – Vygotskyan (1978) term signifying an individual’s understanding resulting from
dialectical interaction
intersubjectivity – Vygotskyan (1978) term meaning “mutual understanding”
intertextuality - the relationship between students and a studied text
IRE (Cazden, 2001) – a traditional teacher-student linear progression of interaction – teacher
Initiation-student Response-teacher Evaluation
Kohlberg dilemmas – moral/ethical paradoxes constructed by Lawrence Kohlberg (1981) used to
instigate critical class dialogue
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lead/dominant-speakers – apprehensive speakers who will engage vocally in class dialogues as
they gain comfort and/or favor with secure speakers
less-assertive speakers – those consistent, initial speakers in a given class dialogue who
generally engage vocally in multiple turns
literacy – here (as defined by Wortham and Kaplan, 2001) it encompasses a level of total
competence and comprehension within a subject area – listening, speaking, reading, writing,
acting, deciding, and reflecting
modes of talk/discourse (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997)– comprised of three distinctive levels of
spoken thought: exploratory, disputational, and cumulative
non-textually generated topic – a form of discourse inquiry that arises out of student or teacher
interests, not from a specific text or story
peer-interaction - students joining together to accomplish tasks with the teacher serving only as
facilitator or guide
philosophical novel/philosophical/moral dilemma – narrative fiction, as first written by Matthew
Lipman (1982) designed to direct students into critical discussions about epistemological,
aesthetic, or ethic dilemmas
Philosophy for Children (P4C) – program and curriculum created by Lipman (1980) that
incorporates Community of Inquiry to thoughtfully reflect toward reasoning
snowball phenomenon (Anderson et al., 2001) - spoken opinion that turns to belief and seems to
spread from one participant to another within a class dialogue; a variation of cumulative talk
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Socratic Method/Circles (Copeland, 2010) - a group-search for objective truth within developing
contemporary societies or classrooms whereby a centralized leader poses overarching questions
for discussion
zone of proximal development - Vygotskyan (1978) term meaning the void between what a
learner can do without social interaction and what he or she can do with help
Chapter I Summary
Social interaction through conversation, as a progression of collective human activity,
also leads individuals to formulate more reflective, creative, and caring arrangements of
reasoning. This socially directed form of literacy identified as critical thinking, surfaces as a
reflective outgrowth of peer interactions, occurring within an individual because of his or her
social participation. As traditional interactions between teachers and students have come to paint
a picture of learning solely as a product of direct instruction resulting from teacher initiation,
student response, and then ultimately back to teacher evaluation, the sociocultural dynamics of
class dialogic interactions exist to revise and reshape such misguided strokes on the educational
landscape.
Taking from the guidance of earlier research detailing methods for facilitating student
discussion toward reasoning in critical, thoughtful ways, the current study explored the
interactions of students who had been exposed to thought-provoking dilemmas and who had
responded through exposure to practical norms set aside by ground-rules promoting exploratory
discourse. Findings related to the observations of their thinking out loud and to the environment
surrounding the observed talks should provide future practitioners with valuable instructional
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measures toward the implementation of reflective classroom talks – instruction mindful of how
the social dynamics of group talk influences growth within individual learners.
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CHAPTER II
Review of Related Literature
Schools, classrooms in particular – as aptly purported bastions of a democratic ideal, so
Dewey (1910) contended, should strive to be places where the furnishing of information is
relevant and vital to a student’s own experiences for fear that they become pedagogical
wastelands. Education and democracy, reasoned Dewey (1916), cannot be separated.
Furthermore, an autonomous context serves as an invaluable premise and a desired goal for a
renewed education system, the aim of which is to inspire the emergence of reflective, critical
thinking. What is more, this intention gives rise to a dialogue founded on inquiry – serving as a
collaborative and needful alternative to more emerging forces of absolute objectivity which
cause violence, ignorance, and injustice (Dewey, 1916; Freire, 1970; Vygotsky, 1978). It is a
“genuine perplexity” built upon these aims that sets hold of any mind and charges it with
alertness and an aptitude for inquiry because it has been stimulated from within (Dewey, 1916, p.
8). Questions, as Dewey (1910) imparts, will force the mind to go wherever it is apt to going. He
and Freire (1970) further postulated that society could not be fully civilized, much less our
schools fully adequate, until students experienced dialectic communities and thereby became
prepared to be participants in a society devoted to inquiry as a sovereign method for dealing with
its problems (Dewey, 1916; Freire, 1970).
Dialogue, in a classical sense, is a public and communal practice (Bahktin, 1981; Dewey,
1916; Lipman et al., 1980; Vygotsky, 1978). Under its variety of names – discourse,
conversation, discussion, talk, and finally, Community of Inquiry -- dialogue proves open to
scrutiny in a way that personal reasoning, as a purely mental activity, cannot (Burbules, 1993;
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Reed & Johnson, 2010). As Dewey (1916) claimed and Vygotsky (1978) later supported, the
individual in a selfish state is nothing; only within the absorption of a dialectical community and
an immersion into experience can he or she obtain a learned personality.
Historically, in a widely accepted Socratic notion, dialogue became that communicative
endeavor allowing truth to emerge as a deconstructive joust, a dislodging thrust prying open the
mental limitations of formerly confident participants (Reed & Johnson, 2010). However, we are
equally drawn into dialogue for its animating spirit of equality and cooperation. Participants do
not use it but enter into it for hopeful immersion into the mutual bonds of appreciation,
challenge, and stimulation (Bahktin, 1981; Burbules, 1993). As the popularity of Socratic
Method would otherwise indicate, dialogue is not fundamentally a form of question-answer
communication, but an engaging social relation whereby emotional and communication virtues
surface in support of these relations (Burbules, 1993; Cazden, 2001; Copeland, 2010; Lipman et
al., 1980). Breakdowns in dialogue’s social concerns thusly become a threat to participation.
Such threats notably take form as monologue, manipulation, and privilege (Bahktin, 1981;
Burbules, 1993; Cazden, 2001; Freire, 1970).
Educational dialogue exists in four forms: conversation, inquiry, debate, and instruction
(Burbules, 1993). As conversation, dialogue is used for understanding a partner; however, a
conversation can become anti-dialogical during a meandering chat filled with self-concerning
personal anecdotes (Burbules, 1993; Reed, 1992). As a form of inquiry, dialogue resolves a
question, a group problem, or a dispute in an outcome attempted and made agreeable to all.
Subsequently, inquiry in a narrow sense becomes a notably ends-driven endeavor (Burbules,
1993; Davey, 2005). Likewise, debate, at its best, with its anti-dialogical posturing, indicates the
challenges and merits of alternative positions. Debates transpire simply and statically as
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arguments: functions at odds with a classroom of care (Burbules, 1993; Fisher, 2013; Noddings,
2007). The fourth form of dialogue, instruction, produces the initiation of reflectively and
critically posed questions designed to lead students toward definite conclusions. Under a
commonplace misinterpretation of the intent of dialogue -- as an endeavor promoting individual
growth through communicative interaction -- instruction, in digression, becomes a manipulation,
bent to the wills of authority: the teacher in the room (Burbules, 1993; Cazden, 2001; Dewey,
1916; Freire, 1970; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990).
Degenerately, instructional forms identified by the moniker of dialogue have become
implemented most favorably by the current educational populous (Cazden, 2001). Class
discussion, as an example of such an implement, has presently become mired in a one-sided
practice of teacher-driven exercises in recitation (Cazden, 2001; Dewey, 1916; Freire, 1970;
Gadotti, 1996; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990). From this type of recitation-teaching, democratic
experience becomes exchanged for an authority-based curricula in unconscious promotion of
inequality (Freire, 1970; Gadotti, 1996; Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Shor, 1992). Dewey (1910)
noted that even teachers during Socrates’ ancient period of schooling would be surprised (at the
end of the day) at the amount of time modern teachers talk as compared to any of their students.
Dewey (1910) further mused that students’ conversation is often confined to answering questions
in brief phrases or in short, disconnected sentences. Explanations during recitation-teaching
become commandingly and narrowly reserved for the teacher, who often amplifies student
responses at the immediate hint of any agreeable utterance from a student in the classroom
(Cazden, 2001; Dewey, 1910; Worthman & Kaplan, 2001).
Shor (1992) further supported Dewey’s (1910) claim: identifying teacher resistance to
constructive, dialogical practice as making a case for the persistent habit of domestication.
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Domestication, as Shor (1992, p. 76) asserts, means molding passive students into receptacles for
“official” knowledge. Domesticated students then become little threat to authoritatively shaped
inequality; they tolerate and even celebrate this current banking structure whereby information is
deposited into the minds of students (Freire, 1970; Gadotti; 1996; Shor, 1992). The outcome
results in a lack of confidence in students’ ability to think and know, which ultimately leads
many teachers toward this authoritative depositing, neglecting the idea that young students are
active, reflective, and cognitive subjects in the process of learning (Shor, 1992). Some devotees
to authoritative teaching, in an accidental twist of irony, believe that minority students have been
especially shortchanged by not getting the information or skills possessed by whites or the elite.
Here, a façade of classroom discourse loses out to misguided honest assumptions that the
accumulation of knowledge achieved through lecture is the quickest and easiest way to present a
retribution for the information lost in bulk due to the oppressions from the past. Little is thought
about a continued didactic oppression still foisted on disadvantaged minorities denied a true,
collaborative voice (Freire, 1970; Haberman, 1991; Shor, 1992; Kohn, 2011).
Haberman (1991, p. 4) identified this tightly controlled routine of knowledge-dispensing,
compliant seatwork as a “pedagogy of poverty.” In this environment students “succeed” without
becoming either involved or thoughtful, and this method is noticeably different from the
collaborative chances common among students in suburban or private schools. Consequently, for
reasons fixed yet unknown, dialogue as the gateway to a critical and rounded education becomes
subverted under the rubble of fear, tradition, and retribution -- all in combination bringing
credence to a didactic tradition while further burying the hope for a more democratic education
(Bahtkin, 1981; Burbules, 1993; Freire, 1970; Haberman, 1991; Kohn, 2011; Lipman et al.,
1980).
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Toward a More Engaged Pedagogy
Advocating for a more dialectic plan for teaching through engaged pedagogies stimulates
students to participate in collaborative learning communities that deal reflectively with vital,
authentic matters (Freire, 1970; Lipman et al., 1980; Shor, 1992; Vygotsky, 1978). Likewise,
engaged methods of teaching require a commitment to dialogue and critical pedagogy (Boys,
1999; Freire, 1970; Gadotti, 1996; Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Lipman et al., 1980; Shor, 1992).
However, assuming that planned dialogue in educative situations always leads to thoughtful
debate proves faulty. Dialogue revolves more around conversation than argument (Bahktin,
1981; Boys, 1999; Burbules, 1993; Vygotsky, 1978). While it has been shown that collaborative
argument scaffolds in ways to benefit the reasoning mind, analytic clarity through argumentation
is not everything (Boys, 1999; Mercer, et al., 1999; Vygotsky, 1978). Collectivity does not
necessarily lead to wisdom (Bahktin, 1981). Those who argue, maintain Burbules (1993) and
Wegerif and Mercer (1997), often listen only to refute -- to compete. In contrast, those involved
in conversation listen to people, to what they know, desire, and imagine. Conversation, like
argumentation, has limits (Boys, 1999; Burbules, 1993). Merely sharing ignorance should not be
confused with conversation (Boys, 1992; Reed, 1992). Conversation depends more on attentive
listening, regard for other people, recognition that each of us knows more than we can say, and,
perhaps most importantly, willingness to restrain oneself in order to hear others (Boys, 1999;
Burbules, 1993).
Analytically lively conversations, as the basis for an engaged pedagogy, depend largely
on all participants asking thoughtful questions (Boys, 1999; Fisher, 2013; Lipman et al., 1980;
Sharp, 1993; Shor, 1992). Dialectical art calls for participants to possess the ability to draw out
speech that respects experience, encourages vocalizing authentically, and allows for comfort
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while speaking in a true voice. Helping students to find their true voices -- to hear others in their
own speech -- poses great challenges. The scars deepened from familial and/or deficient
educative experiences can further weigh suppressive when students are not from a dominant
culture (Boys, 1999; Freire, 1970; Gadotti, 1996; Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Haberman, 1991;
Lipman et al., 1980). Therefore, the art of engaging in critical conversation rests greatly on a
method of affection: a willingness to listen to the lives of others (Boys, 1999; Lipman et al.,
1980).
Freire (1970), in his adamant, classic criticism of a top-down, information-depositing
method of instruction, made clear that educators must engage with students in a problem-posing
curriculum that identifies both teachers and learners as collaborative members in the midst of
Community of Inquiry. Vital to Freire’s (1970) critical theory is the underlying thought that
pedagogical encounters do not change other people; students possess the power to change
themselves, and learners construct their own understandings (Burbules, 1993; Shor, 1992). It is
through this merger that dialogue and conversation blend in social relation, engaging
participants. Subsequently, dialogue becomes a way of life and, if evolving toward education,
calls for attentiveness to the emotions, virtues, and skills that nurture relationships (Bahtkin,
1981; Burbules, 1993). Dialectical education functions within the praxis of critical theory
(Freire, 1970; Gadotti, 1996; Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Shor, 1992). A method of critical
conversation transforms the formerly voiceless in a three-fold manner (Gadotti, 1996).
Critical classroom inquiry, as contended by Burbules (1993), advances conversation
toward dialogue -- an attentive discourse that leads to reflective reason (belief developed through
interaction), analytical memory (understanding how to replicate one’s thinking during future
deliberations), and creative imagination (constructs developed as an extension of conversations).
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In this regard, analytic class discourse creates a progressive flow, moving from reflection to
action. Moreover, this engagement stems from posing authentic, problematic situations and
framing question prompts which draw students into deeper ways of imagining and thinking. It is
within this engaged pedagogy that formerly docile and passive recipients of information achieve
a voice and, thus, an education (Freire, 1970; Gadotti, 1996; Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Shor,
1992). Providing an outlet for student-autonomy further bridges the affective domain with the
cognitive, allowing for student-generated topical inquiry problems to develop (Mercer, 2008;
Reznitskaya, et al., 2009; Shor, 1992). Likewise, the implementation of dialogical practices
promotes both democracy and diversity, serving as a pedagogical device for learning in
engaging, more non-hegemonic ways (Freire, 1970; Papastephanou, 2012; Shor, 1992;
Worthman & Kaplan, 2001).
From Praxis to Reasoning: Theories and Empirical Studies
Freire (1970) postulated that human beings are naturally inquisitive and communicative.
By nature people are curious about environments, conditions, and situations. Dialogue becomes a
capacity by which people reflect together on the meaning of their experiences and knowledge.
Hence, student experience and understanding become the foundation into which academic skills
and structural knowledge are situated (Dewey, 1910; Freire, 1970; Shor, 1992).
The academic world of knowledge can be fascinating; however, it was built without the
participation of ordinary people and without respect for cultural diversity (Freire, 1970; Gadotti,
1996). Realistically, everyday life is lived far from the benefit of academic study. By
constructing academic themes using topical literature and student-generative question posing, the
critical teacher can hope to build on students’ social, emotional, and cognitive growth (Freire,
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1970; Shor, 1992; Gadotti, 1996). This problem-posing, as a critical engagement method does
not set itself against scholarly knowledge or intellectual passion; it seeks to empower formats for
the study of any theme (Shor, 1992).
Within a problem-posing model, learner-generated/topical themes remain the base for
building student-centered programs currently dominated by bureaucracy and teacher-driven
classes (Shor, 1992). Shor (1992) proposed that student-derived generative themes and prompts
occurred less frequently, and only through the initial delivery of a teacher-posed topical prompts.
Albeit engaging, critical reflection in the classroom was observed to emerge most frequently
from student-generative inquiries. Shor (1992) also found that he could build on the phenomena
of participation by first allowing students to generate themes of social interest. Coincidently, the
critical topics initiated by the class then aided Shor (as their instructor) in future development of
his own, related topical themes. He found, moreover, that, under his quasi-experimental design,
analytical participation remained high throughout the class as a result of his building on the ideas
of students (Shor, 1992).
Shor’s (1992) findings have been corroborated most succinctly through the discoveries of
Habermas (1984). Habermas (1984) contended that dialogue is not confined simply to the act of
talking but that it includes the idea of talking while all the while perceiving that the other is also
a thinking, feeling being like ourselves. Habermas (1984) argued that participants within a
process of communication cannot understand meaning in an objective sense. Objectivity,
Habermas claims, is not present within interaction – as perspectives of another become known.
Here exists a fundamental difference between observers and participants. As a communicator, as
a participant, the conditions of understanding become simultaneously and jointly oriented with
several different dimensions of understanding. In this sense, only an observer can prove
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objective during such interaction. Participants in dialogue conversely achieve a more defined
understanding of multiple and interrelated levels of meaning. Moreover, a passive observer
adversely becomes entrenched with a false sense of the way the knowing process is understood
by those who are actually direct, interactive participants (Habermas, 1984).
Any teaching method oriented toward knowledge, contends Young (1992), yields serious
concerns about validity – especially if it only perceives learners to be objects of external
conformity in the grand production of correct answers for an upcoming test and provides no
opportunity for students to respond analytically to the claims presented. Likewise, it becomes
difficult for any learner who is not permitted dialectic speaking chances (which might reflect the
direction of an argument) to respond to an objective meaning created by his or her teacher.
Students, as argued by Young (1992), must find the problem, idea, lesson, message, or notion
meaningful. Meaning and certain steps toward a solution or understanding must retain value to
the student, and passive observance little advances interests with either problems or solutions
(Young, 1992).
Habermas’ (1984) analysis focused attention more resolutely on the student-task
relationship in comparison to the teacher-as-authoritative-deliverer-of-knowledge. This former
relationship establishes student/teacher interaction much more firmly from within the subject
matter spectrum: the Community of Inquiry. Here, the community, as Dewey (1916, p. 299)
identified, emerged in an interactive balance: “Meanings do not come into being without
language, and language implies two selves involved in a conjoint or shared undertaking.” There,
reasoned Dewey (1916) of Community of Inquiry, existed an origination of theory and
hypothesis forged by students that became something central to both teaching and learning.
Within such a balanced construction, learners have the chance to make judgments about a wide
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range of assertions teachers make when initiating presented lessons of potential facts and/or
theories (Lipman et al., 1980; Shor, 1992; Young, 1992). Learners, as argued by Young (1992),
who often have to wait long periods of time to witness connectedness or relevance in a given
lesson, begin to see a relationship through the Community of Inquiry -- where such significance
for the student becomes more or less guaranteed. However, this invitation for teachers to “step
into the shoes of students and try on their subjects for size” might be better perceived as a
demand more than a request (Young, 1992, p. 45). In turn, these demands from students – if they
are taken as such – may cause undesirable labeling from teachers and other authorities
suggesting an absence in cognitive abilities or moral behaviors. In this sense, such imposing on a
tranquil staple of educational methodology could prove risky in a system dominated by unequal
power (Young, 1992).
Piaget, Vygotsky and a psychology of thinking.
Vygotsky (1978) considered the aptitude to teach and to benefit from instruction as the
fundamental characteristic of what differentiates human beings. His account of the social origins
of thinking called for a reconstruction of the classroom so that dynamic and reasonable dialogue
would form a matrix that would, in turn, generate children's thinking -- thinking that would be
correspondingly vigorous and practical. For Vygotsky, the constructs of knowledge develop
through an individual’s interactions with the world and with the others within that world,
resulting in a “knowing triangle” (Atwood et al., 2010, p. 359). Vygotskyan theory dismantled
what is probably the most common cause of miseducation: failure to convert the classroom into a
community of discursive inquiry -- pointing out the direction in which educators had to progress
if the situation were to be corrected (Daniels, 2012; Lipman, 1991).
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Vygotsky’s major theoretical findings asserted a primacy of social relations in the context
of individual development. According to Vygotsky (1978), every achievement of a child’s
cultural development appears twice: first, on a social level and next, on an individual level.
Within this notion any two opposing directions of thought function as opposites united with one
another during a discourse of ideas. These dialogic exchanges gather generative momentum as
chains of questions permeate discussions both through teacher-student dialogues and through the
establishment of communities of inquiry. Here, it is noted that all moves in social discourse
manifest themselves out of personal, rhetorical origins of speech (Daniels, 2012).
In fact, according to the studies of both Jean Piaget (1977) and Vygotsky (1978), a
child’s developmental acumens of thought become manifest through speech. Where these two
theorists diverge in regard to the origins of personal thought is more noteworthy within the scope
of social pedagogy (Daniels, 2012). For Piaget (1977), egocentric, personal speech served as the
bond uniting all the specific characteristics of child logic. To this end Piaget described
egocentrism as occupying a genetic, structural place between inner (autistic) speech and directed
thought – situated first within the self, progressing next toward socialized talk and finally into
logical thinking (Vygotsky, 1962). As critiqued by Vygotsky (1962), Piaget’s theory of thought
and language enclosed flaws in both psychological and philosophical logic.
Deferring to Vygotsky (1962), the primary function of speech, in both children and
adults, is communication through social contact, a contrasting cleave from Piaget’s (1977) line
on thought and language (Atwood et al., 2010). Vygotsky’s assertion about the origins of
reflective talk differs within the progression of speech through the self and others (interlocutors).
While Piaget (1977) posited that all speech begins in a stage of egocentrism, Vygotsky (1962)
countered that speech originates in a more communicative way, hence the socialized applications
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of our first utterances as infants in context with care-giving others (Atwood et al., 2010; Daniels,
2001). From that initiation, egocentric, inner speech emerges as a learned result of these
communicative origins (Atwood et al., 2010). Vygotsky (1962) adds proof to this claim with an
example of how a child will start conversing with him or herself as a result of talking with
others. Subsequently, when circumstances force him or her to stop and think, he or she is likely
to think audibly. Here, egocentric speech, as Vygotsky (1962) advances, has fractured off from
socialized speech. This splintering, in time, leads to inner speech which aids both inward and
logical quests (Vygotsky, 1962). As such, this natural progression within the dialectic, with its
personal-to-social interplay, marshals in an epistemological framework suggesting that education
take on a discursive, informal construction of shared knowledge – an implication being that such
social, dialectical pedagogy is an essential component of effective teaching. In essence, an
individual becomes self-aware only in and through interactions with others (Atwood et al., 2010;
Bahktin, 1981; Daniels, 2012; Vygotsky, 1962).
Bahktin, Vygotsky, and Freire: The dialogic and the dialectic.
Some forms of talk are better than others for facilitating reflective thought and learning.
In particular, types of discourse that lead to chances for perspective taking are most appropriate
for achieving shared understanding (Atwood et al., 2010; Burbules, 1993; Cazden, 2001;
Lipman, 2003). The term dialogic is commonly attributed to a modernist framework of
classroom talk and has its roots in the Vygotskian and sociocultural traditions that have also
produced education’s critical theory (Freire, 1970; Rule, 2011; Wegerif, 2008). However, the
discourse theories endorsed by both Vygotsky and Freire are declared to be more dialectic than
dialogic (Bahktin, 1981; Rule, 2011; Wegerif, 2008). By definition, dialogic talk presupposes
that meaning arises only in the context of difference and maintains a certain respect of difference
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that can never be fully resolved (Bahktin, 1981). Conversely, dialectic talk assumes that
differences are contradictions that must lead to a movement of overcoming – it assumes that
discourse has a bond or consensus that can be found and reached (Bahktin, 1981; Rule, 2011;
Wegerif, 2008). In their established roles for instigating pedagogies of hope, resolution, and
fulfillment, Freire and Vygotsky, influenced by their upbringings under suppressed poverty and
totalitarian rule respectively, strove for an achievement of growth and development through
involvement in the collective classroom culture. Certain individual cognition was a goal to be
achieved through their dialectic interaction (Rule, 2011; Wegerif, 2008; Vygotsky, 1978).
Russian philosopher, Bahktin, while also a proponent of social learning through dialogue,
believed, on the contrary, that the terms dialogic and dialectic were not entirely interchangeable
(Rule, 2011; Wegerif, 2008). To Bahktin (1981), meaning through talk always implies at least
two voices. He argued that meaning does not become entirely individualized once a discussion
has ended and individuals come to reflect on the content of a talk. Bahktin (1981) contended that
any singular meaning gleaned from discourse was and is a product of an on-going progression of
voices throughout the history of talk and cannot be plucked and deemed monologic. Meaning, as
Bahktin posited, is maintained only and always socially (Rule, 2011; Wegerif, 2008). However,
as has been asserted by Wegerif (2008) and Rule (2011), since the terms dialogic and dialectic
both apply to an understanding of sociocultural meaning (while possessing only slight
differences in definition) they can and have been interchanged freely and logically in the context
of writing and research about collaborative inquiry.
Absolutism, subjectivism and a middle theory.
With the intermingled connection between thought and language lending cognitively
towards communicative, social forms of teaching, a more student-centered base of instruction
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has logically emerged as a pedagogy of best practice (Bleazby, 2011). Didactic forms of direct
teaching from adult to child, heeding the way for an absolutism of objectivity, may force out a
student’s natural inclination to actively reconstruct his or her world in accordance to interests and
understandings (Bandura, 2001; Bleazby, 2011; Cazden, 2001; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990). If
Vygotsky’s (1978) model of social learning is valid, then the egocentric aims of an objective-
based education system hold counter to the natural progression of human thought – from initial
strides in social cognition leading toward inner development. Social learning, as maintained by
Rogoff (1990), Bandura (2001), and Bleazby (2011), requires a more relative, subjective
pedagogy for implementation. Unlike absolutism, subjectivism implies that students will be
allowed to take ownership constructively, free to pursue opinions and truths no less substantial
than those of the adults in the classroom. Subjectivism asserts that every opinion is just as valid
as any other; it is thought to promote democracy, egalitarianism, tolerance, and respect for
differences. According to subjectivist/constructivist theory, the endorsement of any particular
methodology that subscribes to a teacher as the owning authority of knowledge is viewed as a
form of indoctrination and cultural imperialism (Bleazby, 2011; Freire, 1970, Gadotti, 1996;
Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Shor, 1992). However, while subjectivism enables students to
construct their own truths, it does not necessitate the type of reflective thought promoted by a
caring, creative, and critical Community of Inquiry (Bleazby, 2011; Fisher, 2013; Lipman,
1991). Even a subjective and constructive model of instruction leads children to fashion out new
forms of absolute truth as they seek conclusions that appear to be perfect, universal, and settled,
discouraging students from recognizing problems with their own notions and with those of others
(Freire, 1970; Bleazby, 2011; Vygotsky, 1978).
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Therefore, a theory of middle ground incorporating the greatest functional aspects of both
absolutism and subjectivism would seemingly prove best (Bleazby, 2011). With subjectivism’s
emphasis on the constructed, cultural, social, and historical nature of truth and absolutism’s
importance on critical thinking, objectivity and general, personal principles, a rounded pedagogy
of egalitarian concern would best support students’ needs within a functioning democracy
(Bleazby, 2011; Dewey, 1916). Since, through Dewey (1916), Vygotsky (1962), Piaget (1977),
and Bahktin (1981) thinking has been established as a social process (nurturing self-autonomy),
and since truth, as asserted by Vygotsky (1978), derives from a person’s inner monologue, an
incorporating pedagogical methodology lends itself toward wide acceptance in schools and
classrooms (Dewey, 1916; Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Mercon & Armstrong, 2011).
Such an egalitarian, reason-promoting pedagogy emerged in the early twentieth-century.
From the American pragmatist tradition of Charles Peirce (1966) and John Dewey (1910), an
inquiry-based pedagogy instilling the attributes of individual experiences in combination with
communal, whole-class ideas came into being (Mercon & Armstrong, 2011). Since inquiry in
schools depends on the formation of a dialectic community in order to exist, a more student-
centered Community of Inquiry has emerged under the program title of Philosophy for Children
(Lipman, 1991; Sharp, 1993). Here, intense and honest personal sharing combined with
collective understanding allows each individual to expand his or her own ideas. The class, in
turn, becomes an increasingly integrated whole, with each member participating in a shared
thinking process which has been heightened by the contribution of different individual
viewpoints (Lipman et al., 1980; Mercon & Armstrong, 2011; Nussbaum, 2011; Vygotsky,
1962).
Empirical results from class dialogues.
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Mercer (2008) believed that designing and applying analytical frameworks for examining
classroom discourse and its dialogical properties could strengthen the overall willingness for
educators to implement more discourse approaches. While new and rare, these analyses have
shown to provide important information regarding teacher-student, student-teacher, and student-
student interactions in the classroom (Mercer, 2008). Accordingly, much of the empirical
evidence in support of analyzing dialogue in the context of objectivity builds off the
argumentation branch of Burbules (1993) four-part discourse model (Reznitskaya et al., 2009).
Argumentative dialogue, as a communication form consistent with the pluralistic ideals
of a democratic society, has been consistently embraced by educators concerned with their
students becoming autonomous thinkers and active citizens (Dewey, 1938; Freire, 1970;
Reznitskaya et al., 2001). From this aim there arises a substantial need for understanding
relationships between dialogical processes and educational outcomes. To that end there also
exists considerable importance in understanding the mechanisms and educational benefits of
dialogical engagement for developing an individual’s ability to form and justify judgments
(Reznitskaya et al., 2001). Despite consistent appeals for the creation of fostering dialogues,
argues Reznitskaya et al. (2001), researchers are missing empirically-based pedagogical
knowledge that can inform and back the instructional selections of today’s practitioners.
An encapsulated synopsis of empirical studies supporting theories that collaborative
thinking leads to superior individual reasoning has been shown to arise from phenomena related
to collective rationality, participants’ development of a personal argument schema, sustained
periods of philosophical inquiry involvement, and a dialogue groups’ adherence to established
ground-rules (Anderson et al., 2001; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 1999; Moshman & Geil, 1998;
Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Reznitskaya et al., 2009; Topping & Trickey, 2007). Four of the studies
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were undertaken (Moshman & Geil, 1998; Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Reznitskaya et al., 2009;
Topping & Trickey, 2007) with the intent to examine post-dialogic results in student reasoning.
The two remaining studies described here (Anderson et al., 2001; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes,
1999) conversely focused on the observed dynamics present during participants’ involvement in
collaborative discussions.
Individual reasoning, as triggered by direct participation in conversations with a group,
can be defined as a deliberate effort to reach justifiable conclusions. Reasoning, as Vygotsky
(1978) and Bahktin (1981) asserted, includes both collective as well as individual forms of
cognitive action, and consequently, reasoning is thought be a social process (Dewey, 1916;
Freire, 1970; Shor, 1992; Moshman & Geil, 1998). In Moshman & Geil’s (1998) quasi-
experimental study, 143 undergraduate educational psychology students, equally divided
between men and women, were presented with four cards pictured on a sheet of paper. Each card
had either a letter or a number on it. Also inscribed at the bottom of each card was a statement:
“If a card has a vowel on one side then it has an even number on the other side” (p. 233).
Students were asked to test the hypothesis by selecting the card they would need to turn over to
determine precisely whether the hypothesis was valid or invalid for a set of four cards presented.
At the bottom of an evaluation page, participants were asked to justify their solution in writing.
Within three randomly assigned experimental conditions – an individual control condition, an
interactive group, and an individual/interactive group, data was collected. The findings indicated
that the correct response pattern was selected by only 9% of the individuals but by 75% of the
groups. Groups, in this study, characteristically formulated a structure of arguments qualitatively
more refined than those generated by most individuals. The results supported Piagetian and
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Habermasian views of collective rationality: that peer interaction becomes a catalyst for logical
social processes and decisions (Moshman & Geil, 1998).
Periods of sustained involvement in philosophical discussion have also provided
influential results promoting individual reasoning through collaborative dialogic instruction
(Topping & Trickey, 2007). The authors here investigated the cognitive effects of collaborative
philosophical inquiry at a two-year follow up to an on-going long-term study. Participants in the
study had long transferred to high school (two years after the initial study) whereby they were no
longer experiencing a consistent, extensive involvement in classroom communities of inquiry
(Topping & Trickey, 2007). This follow-up study indicated that the sample population had
experienced some attrition greater within the control group than in the experimental group but
that 52 control and 96 experimental subjects were still available to observe. The intervened
students engaged in collaborative inquiry for one hour each week for a period of 16 months but
had been outside the study for two years before the analysis of the current study was taken.
Using the Cognitive Abilities Test, it was found that the significant pre- and post-cognitive
ability gains from the experimental group in elementary school were maintained towards the end
of their second year of middle school. The control group showed a persistent deterioration in
scores from pre- to post-test to the follow-up study. However, the study provided evidence of
maintained cognitive achievement with the experimental group after two years’ lapse in time. As
the Cognitive Abilities Test was administered to all participants again during high school and
given the pattern of sample attrition that occurred, the group score difference was
underestimated. Seemingly, the prior experiences of collaborative inquiry involvement over time
had had a cognitively significant impact on the intervened students of this study (Topping &
Trickey, 2007).
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Another study additionally concentrated on evaluating individual learning achievement
following engagement in dialogic discussions. Here, participants were observed in relationship to
how well they acquired generalizable knowledge of argumentation (Renitskaya et al., 2009).
Within a pedagogical approach called Collaborative Reasoning (small group discussions),
empirical evidence gleaned from a variety of previous studies investigated group processes,
followed individual student participation during the discussions, and evaluated the links
established between the features of social interaction and individual student performance
(Reznitskaya et al., 2009). In each previously administered study (Dong, Anderson, Kim, & Li,
2008; Kim, 2001; Reznitskaya, Anderson, & Kuo, 2007; Reznitskaya et al., 2001), it was found
that elementary-aged students involved in multiple experiences with Collaborative Reasoning
acquired an abstract knowledge system called argument schema. Argument schema theory
suggests that abstract properties of knowledge structures acquired from educational experiences
with argumentation should empower the use of these structures in different contexts and
interactive settings (Reznitskaya et al., 2009).
Reznitskaya et al. (2009) used the results of all four previous studies to investigate the
transfer-potential of dialogic discussions. In her encompassing meta-analysis study, Reznitskaya
et al. (2009) employed the same posttest-only quasi-experimental design when analyzing the
four prior examinations. In each study prior to Reznitskaya et al. (2009), intact grade 4 and 5
elementary classrooms were assigned to treatment conditions. Across each of the four studies
(Dong, Anderson, Kim, & Li, 2008; Kim, 2001; Reznitskaya, Anderson, & Kuo, 2007;
Reznitskaya et al., 2001), argumentation development was examined in ten experimental
classrooms that participated in Collaborative Reasoning and ten that did not (Reznitskaya et al.,
2009). In three of the studies (Dong, Anderson, Kim, & Li, 2008; Kim, 2001; Reznitskaya,
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Anderson, & Kuo, 2007), students identified with the Collaborative Reasoning condition
participated in four Collaborative Reasoning discussions. In one study (Reznitskaya et al., 2001),
Collaborative Reasoning students took part in ten Collaborative Reasoning discussions. In all
four prior studies, students in the control sections engaged in their regular reading instruction.
Within one to two weeks of completing their respective educational interventions, all students
were given the same posttest. For the posttest, students were asked to write a reflective essay in
response to a three-page story that was similar to those used as models for the Collaborative
Reasoning discussions. Stories used for the posttest prompt presented only similar moral
dilemmas to the discussion models so as to eliminate bias. In the posttest story, an unpopular boy
named Thomas wins the school pinewood derby race. However, he breaks the rules by not
making the car himself. Thomas confides in his classmate, Jack, who he (Thomas) has received
outside assistance from his older brother in building the car. The students in all of the previous
studies were asked to write an essay reflecting on whether or not Jack should tell on Thomas
(Reznitskaya et al., 2009).
All essays were scored by raters who were unfamiliar with the authors of the reflective
pieces. Raters were unsure whether a reflective piece was written by a student from a
Collaborative Reasoning classroom or from a control classroom. The raters also used an analytic
scoring system that allowed for the generation of low-inference quantitative measurements of
students’ argumentative abilities. The raters first deconstructed each essay into idea units that
represented discrete parts of a reflective proposition. Next, they assigned different codes to
distinct idea elements. Each student essay received three scores corresponding to the outcomes of
these variables. In addition, categories representing actual argument elements were combined to
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form a summary measure indicating the total number of argument-relevant propositions of each
student involved (Reznitskaya et al., 2009).
The findings comprised from all four previous studies (Dong, Anderson, Kim, & Li,
2008; Kim, 2001; Reznitskaya, Anderson, & Kuo, 2007; Reznitskaya et al., 2001) showed that
dialogic interactions appeared to not only influence student learning within social contexts but
also helped students to internalize argumentative skills and to successfully allocate them to new
contexts, such as the administered essay posttest (Reznitskaya et al., 2009). The research on
collaborative reasoning reviewed in Reznitskaya’s et al. (2009) meta-analysis offered new ways
of assessing the value of classroom talk. The effectiveness of dialogic teaching was defined
neither in terms of student awareness of correct answers nor in terms of their capacity for solving
a dilemma and reach a consensus on an issue. Instead, the gauges of effectiveness focused on the
dialogic quality of student thinking. Consequently, when evaluating collective performance,
these Collaborative Reasoning researchers analyzed the distribution of participation, the
divergence of questions, the quality of student arguments, and the acquisition of rhetorical moves
useful in constructing arguments. Similarly, individual student performance was measured by
evaluating written argumentative discourse in terms of the presence of reasons supporting a
chosen position (Reznitskaya et al., 2009).
Empirical findings reflective of phenomena present during collaborative discussions were
also noted. The discoveries of Reznitskaya et al. (2009) and Anderson et al. (2001) further
emphasized participants’ consistent usage of argument stratagems indicative that interactive
scaffolding was occurring. This scaffolding, built by individuals within reflective discussions,
related to a higher-level capacity for reasoning (Reznitskaya et al., 2009). In studies presented by
Reznitskaya et al. (2009) and Anderson et al. (2001), it was established that a kind of snowball
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effect transpired as students actively listened to and processed the beliefs of others that related
vaguely to personal experiences. Students, in development of a higher level of reasoning,
engaged not only in vocal agreement or disapproval but by discussing through a researched list
of stratagems important for obtaining argument skills. Students exhibiting a higher level of
verbal reasoning, identified as dialectic, showed distinctive tendencies toward supporting argued
reasons, introducing counterarguments, and uttering in rebuttal (Anderson et al., 2001;
Reznitskaya et al., 2009; Nussbaum, 2011). Thirteen argument stratagems were consistently
spoken within dialogic settings and observed through research performed by Anderson et al.
(2001).
1. Simple agreement without reasoning
2. Simple disagreement without reasoning
3. Agreement with elaboration
4. Clarification and/or restatement of opinion
5. Request for reasons from another
6. Counterargument
7. Rebuttal
8. Confirming analogy
9. Refuting analogy
10. Inference
11. Deduction
12. Argumentation
13. Self-correction
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Reznitskaya et al. (2009), as reported, also described favorably that individual argument skills
were enhanced through collaborative reasoning discourses.
An additional study mindful of the observed dynamics of students during collaborative
dialogues was undertaken by Mercer, Wegerif, and Dawes (1999). In this study sixty British
primary school students aged 9-10 took part in an experimental, interactive program intended to
improve the quality of children’s collective relationships by developing their awareness of
language use and encouraging adherence to certain ground-rules for talking together (Mercer,
Wegerif, & Dawes (1999). Students were prompted to make predictions and carry out science
experiments to test them. While carrying out these experiments, students’ interactive speech was
documented and observed for the emergence of what the researchers referred to as “exploratory
talk” (Barnes, 1976; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 1999, p. 97). Exploratory talk is a type of
interactive dialogue in which partners engage critically yet constructively with each other’s
ideas. These ideas and suggestions are sought and offered for joint consideration and may be
challenged and counter-challenged, but these challenges must be, in turn, justified (Barnes, 1976;
Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 1999).
Next, researchers gathered and analyzed data regarding the quality of talk and problem-
solving abilities of students identified in target classes for experimentation – before and after
they had taken part in the program. Also, a comparison of analyses between the
target/experimental students and those of the control classes was administered. Each target class
teacher carried out the experimental program with students organized into talking groups for
collaborative activities while the teachers and students of the control classes carried out their
normal curricular activities. Researchers gathered observational data over a period of ten weeks
which would allow them to distinguish any changes in the quality of the students’ talk. Students
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in both the target classes and the control groups were observed and video-recorded in the same
ways over that period. The amount of time dedicated to focal group discussions provided
approximately five hours of video data. An additional four hours of observational data was
gathered by videotaping the focal groups in both the target and control classes carrying out the
program of collaborative talk (Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes. 1999).
It was conclusively found that with the implementation and consistent reminders of
exploratory talk ground-rules during observed collaborative dialogues with target classes, rules’
usage improved the quality of students’ collective vocal engagement (Mercer, Wegerif, &
Dawes, 1999). Mercer, Wegerif, and Dawes (1999) further argued that if the ground-rules of
educational language practices were more carefully explained, justified, and modeled by
teachers, improvements would be noticed in various contexts of whole-class, group-based and
individualized activities in primary classrooms. It was also discovered that being taught to use
exploratory talk helps develop students’ individual reasoning skills and that this finding supports
the assertions of sociocultural theorists (e.g. Dewey, 1910; Freire, 1970; Bahktin, 1981;
Vygotsky, 1981; Rogoff, 1990; Bandura, 2001) that the development of human cognitive
abilities depends on a link between an individual’s “intramental and intermental” consciousness
– facilitated through involvement with language (Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 2008, p. 108).
The evidence presented provides both theoretical and empirical understanding supporting
the attributes of collective, dialogic interactions as pedagogically sound approaches for
promoting the development of critical, creative, and caring thinking in the classroom. The studies
examined outline the basis for a conclusion that suggests that classroom communities of
dialogical inquiry serve as an ideal form of educational praxis (Kennedy & Kennedy, 2011).
Community of Inquiry’s place at the intersection of discourses of argumentation theory,
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communications theory, dialogue theory, social-learning theory, and group psychodynamics
makes it a rich location for the merging of educational theory and practice (Kennedy & Kennedy,
2011).
Dialectical Influences
The inclusion of classroom conversations within the curriculum of modern classrooms
has suffered a constrictive blow (Cazden, 2001; Glina, 2013; Kohn, 2011; Renitskaya et al.,
2009 & 2013). Student emancipation by means of autonomous enlightenment has become
replaced by instruction controlled by objective and objectified practices (Cazden, 2001; Kohn,
2011; Lipman et al., 1980; Papastephanou, 2012; Shor, 1992). In an authentic sense, dialogical
conversations, those which spring forth from the collective, intermental group to elicit reflection
and ultimately escort individuals toward further experimentation and learning, have given way to
teacher-driven models of discourse, designed to meet mandated curricular standards of
objectivity (Cazden, 2001; Kohn, 2011; Lipman et al., 1980; Vygotsky, 1978). Additionally, this
current initiation serves as a placebo, laden with goals toward the accumulation of skills and
facts so that students and their teachers meet compliance (Kohn, 2011; Lipman, 2003). This
practice likewise has come to suppress the advent of individual growth that occurs through
participation in a subjective Community of Inquiry (Dewey, 1916; Kohn, 2011; Lipman, 2003).
Teachers, for various reasons, ignore, or in some cases, hold disregard for the implementation of
whole-class discussions (Cazden, 2001; Glina, 2013; Reznitskaya et al., 2009). Fears steeped in
the traditions of teacher upbringing, close-minded theories of knowledge and learning, narrow
visions of meandering, chaotic chatter, and teaching directed toward high-stakes standards
permeate the list of reasons against implementing a more engaging pedagogy (Burbules, 1993;
Cazden, 2001; Dewey, 1916; Fisher, 2013; Freire, 1970; Kohn, 2011; Shor, 1992).
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Historically speaking, serving as the preferred educational methodology of Socrates and
Aristotle -- enlightening Rousseau, pragmatically serving Dewey and socially engaging
Vygotsky and Freire – collaborative, reflective communities held a quintessential place as
catalysts, sparking the natural expression of knowledge through communication (Freire, 1970;
Gadotti, 1996). Today, constructivist educators understand collective discourse to mirror the
classic, romantic versions of reciprocal talk, imagined as an initiation by Socrates,
deconstructing the wavering thoughts of unsuspecting Athenians (Freire, 1970; Reed & Johnson,
2010). Yet this deconstructive, dialectical game of historic verbal jousting has been reshaped and
grossly altered from its original form. Seemingly now, the former reciprocal methodology of
back-and-forth inquiry which originated from the academy has been hollowed out, defined only
by one-way teacher-to-student discussions tied to an objective aim. (Burbules, 1993; Cazden,
2001; Freire, 1970; Gadotti, 1996). Though autonomous in its Socratic origins, dialogue, as it is
currently implemented, has come to be replaced by a pedagogy of direct instruction -- a teacher-
to-student misinterpretation of engaging talk that aims to honor recitation more than the
development of social literacy (Cazden, 2001; Haberman, 1991).
As Dewey (1896) posited in multiple forums, true education is achieved through
stimulating a student’s powers through involvement into the social situations he or she finds
singularly. Subsequently, student-to-student discourse serves in that regard. Worthman and
Kaplan (2001), in a study undertaken to define Cuban literacy, found that it has come to
encompass much more than the comprehension of textual content. Literacy, as Worthman and
Kaplan (2001) discovered, developed both within and outside the realm of individual reading
comprehension mastery. Literacy conceptually includes ways of talking, listening, reading,
writing, acting, believing, and valuing. In this sense, the narrow definition commonly associated
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with content literacy (reading comprehension) is broadened to include influences more socially
experienced (Worthman & Kaplan, 2001).
As Vygotsky (1978) and Bahktin (1981) theorized, experienced social practices trigger
the affective catalysts of personal cognitive development. Likewise, when these encompassing
aspects of literacy become grounded and emerge out of students’ lived experiences, they too can
contrastingly become diluted and then mislabeled when that lived exchange is suppressed
(Bandura, 2001; Dewey, 1938; Freire, 1970; Kohn, 2011; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990; Shor,
1992).
The Origins of Philosophy for Children
Matthew Lipman, in the late 1960s, surprised and appalled by a consistent inability in
young adults to reason and resolve conflicts through communication with other peers and adults,
established (along with Ann Sharp) a communal elementary school program whereby students
could participate in a public space in order to do philosophy (Lipman, 1991; Weber, 2011).
Philosophy for Children, as Lipman’s (1980) program became known, argued for an active,
practical understanding of philosophy – a divergent program that distinguished itself from the
traditional knowledge-based teachings associated with the history of philosophy (Weber, 2011).
In essence, Philosophy for Children (also identified as P4C) has remained tied to an effort to
define philosophy in terms of an idealism aimed at promoting a relativist, subjective form of
pedagogy – one associated with the ancient Greek conception that represents its true nature
through reasoning (Weber, 2011).
Sharp’s (1993) pedagogical concept for teaching reasoning became manifest by way of
integrating methods of philosophical inquiry and the pragmatist ideal of Community of Inquiry
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in order to facilitate critical, creative, caring, and communal thinking skills – skills essential in
the promotion of democratic citizenship (Bleazby, 2011; Fisher, 2013; Noddings, 2007). In fact,
Lipman (1991) constructed precise criteria toward the achievement of reasoning within the
Philosophy for Children platform. Relevance, precision, consistency, and sufficiency are to be
followed in order to attain good reasoning (Weber, 2011). Yet, in diverting slightly from the
ancients, the creators of Philosophy for Children came to endorse Deweyan meaningfulness over
truth as its goal for its methods of inquiry. To explain, Dewey’s notion of truth-as-meaning
enables P4C to facilitate varying and seemingly incompatible personal attributes, ideals of
thinking, and social practices toward the construction of individual meaning (Dewey, 1916;
Vygotsky, 1978). Through linear participation, one derives -- from this type of cognitive
wrestling between the mind of the self and an understanding of the perceptions of others a
problemization of experience – an individual provocation of self-reflection and inquiry which
leads to self-transformation and growth (Bahktin, 1981; Bleazby, 2011; Lipman, 2003;
Vygotsky, 1978). Toward this ideal, it is that Philosophy for Children integrates a Deweyan ideal
of truth that it is able to overcome the educational problems associated with absolutism and
relativism. Within the P4C program, absolute beliefs of the self are in perpetual struggle with a
myriad of relative perspectives from the group (Bahktin, 1981; Bleazby, 2011; Dewey, 1916;
Lipman, 1991; Vygotsky, 1962). The more one exercises one’s own thinking, actively
participating within the Community of Inquiry, the more those external dialogues become a part
of one’s internal development (Mercon & Armstrong, 2011; Vygotsky, 1978). Moreover,
Philosophy for Children has a precondition: it requires that its participants acquire a self-critical
view of oneself. Those involved must temporarily step back from set beliefs to put into
perspective the role one plays in society (Lipman, 2003; Sharp, 1993; Tibaldeo, 2010).
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Community of Inquiry within Philosophy for Children
Dialogue is both ontological (reflecting the way we are shaped as human beings) and
ethical – the way we should be (Bahktin, 1981; Rule, 2011). Life, reasoned Bahktin (1981), is
naturally dialogic. Bahktin’s (1981) maxim can be interpreted as: Humans participate in dialogue
in multiple ways and this dialogic engagement defines what it means to be human.
Communication through dialogue is present not only in the form of speech but also through the
use of gestures, facial expressions, postures, and a whole range of body language; even apparel
and social behavior constitutes distinct qualities of a dialogue (Bahktin, 1981; Rule, 2011). By
linking the essential assets that initiate a dialogue and the participation of students within a
classroom, the potential exists for the emergence of a Community of Inquiry (Lipman, 2003;
Mercer & Wegerif, 1997; Weber, 2011).
Community of Inquiry, as Lipman (2003) described, is a “playground of thought”,
serving as a public space where children can reconstruct and reinvent their own understandings
of reality within a classroom group to form a coherent connection between passions and certainty
(Weber, 2011, p. 237). Community of Inquiry emphasizes the idea that knowledge is inevitably
fixed within a social context and requires intersubjective agreement within a group inquiry to
bring that knowledge forth, bearing in mind that all findings are temporary and subject to
modification (Bakhtin, 1981; Pardales & Girod, 2012; Seixas, 2012; Shields, 2012; Vygotsky,
1978). In essence, a Community of Inquiry must therefore begin with this shared aspiration.
Furthermore, participation in a Community of Inquiry hopes to give children the tools they need
to question their situation and to begin the search for practical means to change or transform it
(Lipman, 1991; Fisher, 2013). Participants must similarly agree to share in a “commitment to
reasonableness”: a pledge to mutually recognize the need for collaborative involvement
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(Tibaldeo, 2010, p. 3). The crux of expression identifying this form of inquiry is, as Lipman
(2003) asserts, philosophical dialogue. This type of talk differs from conversation, debate, and
mere communication (Burbules, 1993; Lipman, 2003). While philosophical talk can be
argumentative and critical, it can also elicit notable significance for being both creative and
caring. However, not every classroom community is a Community of Inquiry because, for such a
community to exist, there must exist acknowledged and common commitments, norms, actions,
and responsibilities (Lipman, 2003; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 2008).
Identifiable characteristics leading to the realization of reasonable participation within a
community dialogue, maintained Lipman (2003), materialize as both individual and social
competencies. Ideally, those students engaged in a philosophical Community of Inquiry have
been found to possess the following: autonomy, reflectivity, self-correction, sensitivity to
context, ability to use critical thinking, as well as creative and caring thinking, aptitude to argue
and to sustain reasons for personal choices, actions and views (Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003).
Within this model of inquiry, a group of students is given a stimulus, such as a story, a
moral dilemma, a news article or clip, or a scientific problem, and is asked to generate questions
from it regarding anything problematic, perplexing, or interesting (Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003).
The group then reasons aloud – through dialectical speech, pushing forward individual ideas
while also responding to and building upon the ideas of others. This dialogue continues with the
group producing further questions until it becomes satisfied with how they have dealt with the
problem. Participants are then asked to reflect on answers that have arisen and to demonstrate
proof of their learning (Dewey, 1916; Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003). Ultimately, the overall
content of a discourse becomes less important than the quality of the reasoning displayed (Fisher,
2013; Lipman, 2003). Through the act of vocalizing their thinking together, students, following
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the norms and procedures of inquiry, learn to think reasonably (Lipman, 2003; Mercer, Wegerif,
& Dawes, 2008). Critically, in Lipman’s (2003) opinion, students culminate this experience with
a new, or perhaps, continued understanding of important social and collaborative fluencies that
develop listening, empathy, respect, and friendship (Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003; Reed &
Johnson, 2010). This engaged collectivity necessitates three pivotal elements of thoughtful
engagement essential to the Philosophy for Children program: criticalness, creativity, and care
(Davey, 2005; Fisher, 2013).
Community of Inquiry as a catalyst for critical thinking.
The foremost concern and purpose of Philosophy for Children (P4C) is to free
participants from a subservient and fixed existence (Lipman, 2003; Sharp, 1993). Through the
combination of both egocentric and social acts of questioning, reasoning, and investigative
thinking, P4C aims to liberate students from a determined life that becomes acquiescent to
objective ends. Children possess an acute sense of what is happening around them, but they do
not necessarily have profound conceptions of how things can be sequenced so as to begin to
mature on their own (Vansieleghem, 2006). A good thinker, as explained by Fisher (2013), is
reflective in the sense of exercising his or her own powers of being receptive to the thinking of
others.
By entering into a philosophical classroom dialogue, an individual’s actions and
expressions are constantly being transformed via self-agreements, forging their validity from
logical thinking strategies (Anderson et al., 2001; Lipman, 2003; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes,
2008; Vansieleghem, 2006). In fact it is such engagement that identifies a participant as being
critical or reflective (Davey, 2005; Fisher, 2013). Additionally inset into this interactive program,
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Community of Inquiry turns the dialogue into an argumentative game in which a participant’s
self-awareness, at every vocal movement, is being converted through a specific code system
(Anderson et al., 2001; Vansieleghem, 2006). Those who then apply this thinking for
themselves, as noted by Bahktin (1981), Vansieleghem (2006), and Vygotsky (1978) are able to
articulate arguments and conclusions which support specific points of view. Community
participants similarly become more adept at formulating new ideas and possibilities that may
have nothing to do with the original arguments in question. This sort of social engagement serves
to elevate the voice of participants involved with P4C from the oppression of a fixed form of
knowledge (Cazden, 2001; Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003). Active participation in such classroom
dialogue sparks critical thought, allowing for the philosophical nature of a student to manifest
itself explicitly through his or her urge to question, to wonder, and to fantasize (Lipman, 2003;
Vansieleghem, 2006).
Creative thinking and engagement within a community of inquiry.
Dialogue is creative if it involves students generating and extending ideas, proposing
hypotheses, applying imagination, or expressing new or inventive ideas (Fisher, 2013). The
promotion of this type of creativity is anchored in a questioning classroom environment whereby
teachers and students value a diversity of opinions. Here, both parties involved ask unusual
questions, make new connections, represent ideas in different ways, try fresh approaches and
solutions to problems, and thoughtfully evaluate new, constructed actions (Cazden, 2001;
Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990).
As posited by Lipman (2003), creative thinking is involved with making meaning
through claims. For instance, allowing a dialectic argument at hand to lead where it may go is
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stipulated as a vehicle for engaging participants. This act of conversation lenience proves
intrinsically creative since being allowed to think for oneself serves to indicate the most
appropriate paradigm of creative though (Lipman, 2003). Lipman (2003) further elucidates this
claim when he contends that invention is at the heart of creative thinking because constructed
P4C dialogues are based on the ideas of children and the arguments that stem from those talks.
Generating ideas that charge these types of dialogues requires inventiveness, not to mention
originality, uniqueness, novelty, productivity, freshness, imaginativeness, and capacities to
synthesize (Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003). Conclusively, a resulting significance toward
improving children’s education rests on the improvement of the quality and creativity of
dialogue between students and their teachers (Burbules, 1993; Cazden, 2001; Fisher, 2013;
Lipman et al., 1980).
Caring thinking: The expression of empathy in a community of inquiry.
Community of Inquiry, as the curriculum model within Philosophy for Children, creates
conditions that exemplify equal, democratic rights and becomes characterized by what Lipman
referred to as “caring thinking” (Fisher, 2013, p. 12). Philosophy for Children associate creator,
Ann Sharp, defines caring thinking as honest and diligent concern for the communal process of
dialogue within a democratic environment (Davey, 2005). With this, Sharp (1993) reflects
Gilligan’s (1977) and Noddings’ (1984) perspective on the ethics of caring with a description
that care exemplifies more of a pedagogical care than an emotional, popular view of care.
Likewise, it becomes important to understand care as a pedagogical caring rather than an
emotional one inasmuch as we can see its benefits to the inquiry process rather than a personal
and emotive worth (Davey, 2005).
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Noddings (1984) further described caring as possessing a regard for the views and
interests of others. For caring to be fulfilled, the individual doing the caring must receive some
sort of endorsement from the one being cared for in order for the act to be complete. Noddings
(1984) held that the meta-dialogue and the processes of caring include such ideas as listening,
turn-taking, respecting, and accommodating differences. Caring for the process and the outcomes
of a classroom community dialogue proves paramount to a successfully engaging inquiry session
(Davey, 2005). By engaging with only limited teacher-facilitation within a particular dialogue,
holding that the participants themselves will take responsibility for the inquiry therein, students
must care for the process to make it useful or else it will simply be a conversation without a
purpose for finding the existing truths present in the talk (Davey, 2005; Reed, 1992).
Community of Inquiry as a Process of Reflective Thought
For Socrates, the dialectic founder of the Community of Inquiry, philosophy was an
activity, an act of doing, rather than a horde of truths to be learned, especially by direct,
authoritative means (Reed, 1996; Fisher, 2013). A principle characteristic of the method
attributed to his name and deeds was the implementation of inductive reasoning: arguing from
particular cases or dilemmas toward the attainment of general truths. Yet, the Socratic Method
was more than this; it was more a diverting from what others thought and said toward an
opportunity for a learner to be the responsible force in his or her understanding. It was an act of
being drawn away from the philosophic tradition of being instructed toward an awareness of
questioning and reflection through the use of the words used to express those beliefs (Fisher,
2013; Lipman et al., 1980; Noddings, 2007). Philosophy, in the Socratic sense, originated as a
linguistic act, emerging as a way to seek structure and echo reality through words (Reed, 1996;
Fisher, 2013). Of what we gleaned from Socrates, knowledge is in fact obtainable in theory but
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must always be questioned in practice. As Socrates believed the posing of questions to be a
process at least as important as finding answers, practitioners today must be aware that perceived
certainty of answers brings about a stop to inquiry, concluding the process toward deeper
thinking (Fisher, 2013; Lipman et al., 1980; Reed & Johnson, 2010).
Lipman’s philosophy can also be said to belong to the tradition of reflective education --
a tradition in which learning to think merits as much value to educational aims as the
accumulation of knowledge and skills (Kennedy, 2004). Lipman et al. (1980) came to understand
thinking as a process of investigation and regarded the classroom as a potential place of inquiry
in which consideration is paid to good thinking and its improvement. Students, within Lipman’s
design, are encouraged to learn cooperatively through actively listening to one another, sharing
their opinions, considering a variety of viewpoints, and exploring differences by casting attention
to their own thinking and the thinking of others (Burgh, 2005; Kennedy & Kennedy, 2011).
Lipman’s Community of Inquiry, as a matter of course, emphasized questioning strategies and
the improvement of a student’s reasoning abilities by having him or her think about thinking
through the discussion of concepts of personal interests (Burgh, 2005; Freire, 1970; Giroux &
McLaren, 1989; Shor, 1992). One singular, evolving outcome of such a typified way of using
language effectively for joint, explicit, and collaborative reasoning is the emergence of what
Mercer and Wegerif (1997) refer to as exploratory talk.
Toward an emergence of exploratory talk.
Exploratory talk, as first identified by Barnes (1976) and further defined by Wegerif
(1996), is a kind of interaction which combines clear reasoning through facilitated talk initiated
through a cooperative framework of ground-rules emphasizing the shared nature and the
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importance of active participation of all engaged. Exploratory talk is that in which ideas are
engaged upon by groups both critically and constructively (Mercer, 2000). Corresponding with
Lipman’s (1980) guidelines for Philosophy for Children, Mercer’s (2000) findings for
exploratory talk indicate that facilitated information should be offered for joint consideration and
eventual consensus. Equivalent to norms of Philosophy for Children, student proposals during
exploratory talk may be challenged and counter-challenged, yet reasons should be provided and
alternative ideas offered (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). Engagement in exploratory talk, as with
Philosophy for Children, requires participants to maintain an emotional detachment from their
own beliefs (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997; Fisher, 2013). Identifiable with participation in
exploratory talk is the notion that participants ultimately side neither with one’s own self nor
with the group but instead with the dialogue itself (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
Often, teachers trust the notion that students know how to engage in productive
discussions (Mercer & Dawes, 2008). In fact, the nature of participating in quality forms of
discourse is not normally a topic of teacher-student considerations (Burbules, 1993; Cazden,
2001; Rogoff, 1990). The effects of this neglect contributes to a general lack of shared
understanding of how best to engage in classroom critical talk (Cazden, 2001; Mercer & Dawes,
2008). However, a situation can be created, contend Mercer and Dawes (2008), whereby the
collective expression, analysis, and evaluation of ideas becomes a collective enterprise. For a
cooperative dialogue to present itself within an educational setting, a sense of trust, common
endeavor, and a shared understanding of how to engage in a productive discussions must be
made apparent to teachers and students alike. From a more dialogic perspective, specified and
agreed upon ground-rules must be established and abided by for the exploratory implementation
of Community of Inquiry to take shape (Lipman et al., 1980; Mercer & Dawes, 2008; Fisher,
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2013). The enactment of workable, consistent ground-rules in pursuit of Community of Inquiry
through exploratory talk proves essential for both teachers and students toward the achievement
of reflective group talk. The ground-rules for exploratory talk allow for challenges and
disagreements, but these are contained within a cooperative and actively facilitated social
framework (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). The following list should be understood by practitioners
of exploratory talk (Mercer & Dawes, 2008, p. 12):
participants engage critically but constructively with each other’s ideas
everyone participates
tentative, unclear ideas are treated with respect
ideas offered for joint consideration may be challenged
challenges are justified and alternative ideas or understandings are offered
opinions are sought after and considered before decisions are jointly made
knowledge is made publically accountable (and so reasoning is visible in the talk)
It was discovered by Mercer and Littleton (2007) that with teachers promoting awareness
of the importance of critical, creative, and caring dialogue, such interaction does increase the
likelihood of occurrences of exploratory talk. However, there exists at least two other
communicative relationships that indicate different ways of thinking together. While exploratory
talk embodies the concept of communicative rationality, disputational and cumulative forms of
talk also represent ways in which students orient themselves towards each other in a dialogue
(Wegerif & Mercer, 1997).
Many times students interact socially within a classroom dialogue in uncooperative and
competitive ways. This type of exhibited discourse resembles what Mercer et al. (1999) refers to
as disputational talk – that which originates out of the egocentric will and becomes manifest
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through confrontational moves in attempt to win an argument. Disputational talk serves as the
epitome of self-centered engagement within a classroom dialogue (Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). Its
emergence makes the classroom community a difficult endeavor since deep, reflective inquiry
hinges on students’ commitment to suspend personal beliefs in favor of philosophical exploration
(Mercer et al., 1999; Wegerif & Mercer, 1997). Disputational talk is made apparent by a
student’s consistent rebuttals and refuting analogies to previous comments, off-topic tangents of
controlling speech, and personal questions in which answers are already known but are asked for
the sake of continuing a rebuttal (Anderson et al., 2001; Mercer et al., 1999; Wegerif & Mercer,
1997).
In contrast (yet its occurrence may hinder the emergence of reflective thought in whole
class discourse) the presence of an over-cooperative structure of dialogue known as cumulative
talk also exists. Cumulative talk, as shown by Mercer et al. (1999), arises when students share
and build information in an uncritical way, allowing for an absence of inquiry to infiltrate a talk.
While cordial in deliverance, cumulative talk is indicative more of affective, emotional growth
among speakers than showing of reflective or cognitive reasoning (Glina, 2013; Wegerif &
Mercer, 1997). Its emergence becomes apparent by the utterances of simply agreement or
analogies and personal narratives given in response to previous spoken explanations (Glina,
2013; Reed, 1992).
Conversely, exploratory talk, as the mode of engagement most indicative of critical
collectiveness, allows for students to participate constructively with ideas of others. For
exploratory talk to exist, according to Mercer et al. (1999), knowledge must be made publically
accountable and reasoning must be noticeably exhibited during a dialogue. Pursuit for the
achievement of a reflective dialectical condition presents a certain incentive for change in the
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traditional roles teachers play in the day-to-day rigors of contemporary classrooms (Cazden,
2001; Lipman et al., 1980; Mercer et al., 1999).
Explaining the process of community dialogue.
The process of Community of Inquiry, reasoned Kennedy (2004), is a dynamic one and
requires participants to possess what Dewey (1910) calls the resolution to maintain a state of
doubt that stimulates exhaustive inquiry – inquiry that becomes linked with reflective thought.
Within such group inquiry, the origination of an argument materializes as, at once, chaotic but
gains direction (Lipman, 2003). It proceeds non-sequentially, unpredictably, and irreversibly and
many times is defined by moments of disorder and ineptitude (Kennedy, 2004). Since everyone
involved within the structure exercises some aspect of control, Community of Inquiry evolves in
a constant state of deconstruction and reconstruction. Therefore, the system is perpetually in
transition (Kennedy, 2004).
Within the space of dialogue, once a generative question emerges, that question becomes
a universal focus – belonging as much to the addressee as to the universal group (Shor, 1992).
This dialogue becomes a space where participants search together for enlightenments to be
shared (Kennedy, 2004; Sharp, 1993). For Socrates, and likewise for our contemporary selves,
the aim of the dialogue was and is to achieve consensus (Fisher, 2013; Reed, 1996). It assumes
that (although we are not so naïve as to think we can ever reach the plain of unified perspective)
it is in fact human nature to move toward an oxymoronic realm of differentiated unity (Kennedy,
2004; Lipman, 2003).
Dialogue, as Community of Inquiry, is the clash of egocentric, internal beliefs assembled
with the collective, external opinions of the community as a whole (Kennedy, 2004; Lipman,
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2003). Within that community, dialogue happens between individuals, between each participant
and the whole group, and between all possible arrangements on the continuum between those
two (Kennedy, 2004; Lipman, 2003). For the individual, it demands a certain extensive process
of thinking for oneself: evaluating and synthesizing the group’s assembly of thoughts in light of
one’s own. This “thinking with others”, as Kennedy (2004, p. 259) suggests, makes possible the
effect for the individual to evaluate his or her own structure of judgment in light of group
determination. Since Community of Inquiry is an open system, this entire process transpires as
nonlinear and unpredictable (Kennedy, 2004; Lipman, 2003). The group may choose to self-
correct as a result of one participant’s influence or, in contrast, the individual may reevaluate
according to the progressing perspective of the group. Regardless, such signs of self-correction
help to define the cognitive suspense that active open systems such as Community of Inquiry
allow. This ability to enter into and sustain dialogue is the capacity for hope – the capacity to
keep up the embrace of the other, to recognize the perspectives of the other, to follow through
with the process as one that is always arriving (Bahktin, 1981; Freire, 1970; Kennedy, 2004).
Necessary shifts in the role of a dialectical teacher.
The Community of Inquiry pedagogy necessitates a shift in the role of the teacher who,
through traditional application, has, more often than not, come to embody Freire’s banker of
knowledge – the provider to inexperienced and acquiescent starved masses (Freire, 1970;
Giroux, 1988; Kennedy, 2004). In contrast, Sharp (1993) reimagined philosophy by exploring a
pedagogical transition: a transition from teacher to facilitator and from a transmission model to a
dialectical model. Moreover, Sharp (1993) drew on Dewey’s (1910, 1916, & 1938) social theory
and logic of inquiry, Peirce’s (1966) concept of knowledge and philosophy of science,
Vygotsky’s (1978) relational, interactional learning theory to reconstruct and develop a term
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originally used by Peirce – Community of Inquiry. Hence, this synthesis recreated philosophy as
a communal, dialogical activity (Lipman et al., 1980; Kennedy, 2004; Kennedy & Kennedy,
2011).
In its origination, Lipman’s (1980) conceived foundations of Community of Inquiry
served as a reassertion of Socratic practice aside from a key and seminal difference: the direction
of argumentation and the source of self-correcting talk were to be no longer controlled by one
leading member of the group (Kennedy, 2004). The distinction is that Community of Inquiry
becomes facilitated by the collective, dialectical process of the group itself. Within Community
of Inquiry the Socratic process of deconstructing and reconstructing participant opinions is
distributed among all partakers, instead of being centralized with a sole leader (Kennedy, 2004).
In other words, the foundation of control within a philosophical Community of Inquiry transfers
from the one to the whole (Lipman et al., 1980). Here, borders are explored, investigated and
pushed against, erected, removed, and altered in a continual progression toward self-correction
(Kennedy, 2004).
The facilitator’s role.
Given that the implicit aim and direction of the group within Community of Inquiry is
progression toward autonomous enablement (so that each individual may exercise some degree
of leadership), the aim of the facilitator becomes to allocate his or her role and thereby become
just another member of the group (Kennedy, 2004; Sharp, 1993). Accordingly, the facilitator
becomes a coach and a catalyst – a stimulus to the overall gestalt of the dialogue. On the most
visible level, the facilitator begins by describing and modeling a sort of language game (as
indicated in Tables 3 and 4, Chapter 3) which initiates the Community of Inquiry (Gregory,
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2007; Fisher, 2013; Kennedy, 2004; Lipman, 2003). Necessary skills like restating the points of
others, calling for clarification, asking for or offering examples of definitions, pointing out
contradictions, and correcting oneself and others in the interests of full and balanced
participation become part of the consistent structure of a facilitator’s job (Anderson, et al., 2001;
Gregory, 2007; Fisher, 2013; Kennedy, 2004). Accurately enough, the facilitator of a dialogue is
still an authority yet an authority who must be conversely dissolved by the group in order for the
group to exude the facilitator’s functions (Kennedy, 2004).
Facilitation as a form of expertise should be governed by a relationship between indirect
and background knowledge – such as Socrates presumes to play in his own dialogical and
historical conversations (Kennedy, 2004; Reed, 1996). The more an expert knows, the more
intuitive he or she becomes at applying that knowledge and understanding that there are no
secure rules for what can or cannot be part of Community of Inquiry pedagogy (Kennedy, 2004;
Kennedy & Kennedy, 2011). An apt facilitator understands each group as a particular collective
of individuals who form a pattern that will in fact never be repeated. Likewise, the way in which
the discussion emerges from a certain group’s discourse will transpire like no other discourse
before or to come (Gregory, 2007; Kennedy, 2004; Kennedy & Kennedy, 2011; Lipman, 2003).
Furthermore, no verbal move made by a facilitator will necessarily have the same impact as the
same move made in another situation. It is only in the influence of active listening, those
reflective moves by which no new ideas come forth but make visible and connect what has
already emerged, that dialogical space and sameness are expected and also maintained (Gregory,
2007; Kennedy, 2004; Kennedy & Kennedy, 2011; Lipman, 2003).
Perhaps the biggest difference between facilitating Community of Inquiry and teaching
within a traditional model is that the facilitator lives the discourse – is an active part of both the
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teaching and the learning of it (Kennedy, 2004; Sharp, 1993). In order for such a dialectic system
to exist, the facilitator must grant its existence – he or she must properly avoid controlling it –
although any move within the dialogue signifies an attempt to control it. However, a dichotomy
ensues as a dialogue progresses toward harmony since ultimate harmony registers the death of
reflective inquiry (Bahktin, 1981; Kennedy, 2004). Consequently, the facilitator should look
upon the system of Community of Inquiry not so much as the source of knowledge but more as a
type of matrix by which knowledge will emerge (Gregory, 2007; Kennedy, 2004; Kennedy &
Kennedy, 2011; Lipman, 2003).
The facilitator as a bridge toward student reflectivity.
The questions that emerge from a discourse group normally mirror a text’s philosophical
dilemma of the world or problematize the text from a philosophical point of view (Fisher, 2013;
Hunter, 2008; Kennedy, 2004; Lipman, 2003). Each individual in the group should be
encouraged to offer a question, and the resulting set of questions makes up the program for the
emergent discourse (Glina, 2013; Kennedy, 2004). These questions also move the discussion
away from the unstructured exchanging of personal anecdotes, items of knowledge or
unsupported remarks, to a discussion with purpose and direction (Reed & Johnson, 2010; Fisher,
2013). Such a discussion plan serves as a backdrop through which the group and individuals
participating move in it as they talk (Kennedy, 2004). The location at which the students meet
the knowledge organized in the designated stimulus, as asserted by Dewey (1896), must be
consistent of their own experiences. Students bring with them psychological knowledge as
opposed to a logical knowledge of conceptual material (Dewey, 1896). Within the Community of
Inquiry, the prior knowledge and assumptions of each participant are distributed throughout the
group, and the facilitator acts (or chooses not to act) with the purpose of bringing participants to
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express in a way that makes individuals available to each member (Kennedy, 2004; Kennedy &
Kennedy, 2011). In other words, the aim of the facilitator here is to move the participants from
the personal-psychological to the social-logical. An attentive facilitator is then consistently
looking for the boundaries, larger pieces of the argument, and possible transformations or the
potential kernels indicative for social transformation to occur (Gregory, 2007; Kennedy, 2004;
Kennedy & Kennedy, 2011).
The most straightforward strategy for a dialogic facilitator is to act iteratively. In this
sense, a facilitator circles his or her moves back – restating, connecting, or contrasting current
arguments with previous ones, summarizing – while at the same time looking forward by
offering suggestions for arguments and trying out analyses of the whole developing argument on
the group. Serving as a bridge, the facilitator is constantly observant of the possible associations
among the finest rudiments in the dialogue (Anderson et al., 2001; Gregory, 2007; Kennedy,
2004; Lipman, 2003).
Therefore, effective facilitation requires a form of compassion toward otherness -- to
difference -- and an ability to cultivate a potential in others that may already be present in
himself or herself but has not been drawn out prior (Gregory, 2007; Kennedy, 2004). A
Community of Inquiry facilitator triggers system change by identifying with the system of talk to
the point of where it triggers a psychological bend in himself or herself. This is the result of an
observant state that surfaces behaviorally as a balance and a tension between monitoring and
intervening (Hunter, 2008; Kennedy, 2004). If the facilitator holds back too much, the system of
inquiry is likely to fester and decay. If the facilitator speaks too much, claims Kennedy (2004),
he or she both dictates, and closes the system, or insights chaos. In accordance, a facilitator
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within Community of Inquiry contributes to a flourishing dialogue only when certain
preconditions are met (Hunter, 2008, p. 3)
Readiness to reason;
Mutual respect (of children towards each other, and of children and teachers
towards one another);
An absence of indoctrination.
What distinguishes Community of Inquiry from other pedagogical forms is that the
facilitator, because he or she cannot take a set position outside the group, shares every effect,
every belief, with every other group member. Any movement he or she enables or instigates
within the talk will affect him or her as much as any other participant (Glina, 2013; Gregory,
2007; Kennedy, 2004). This, above all else, seems to be indicative of the major paradigm shift
associated with solving the student-teacher contradiction (Freire, 1970). Through dialogue,
Freire posits, “the teacher-of-the-students and the students-of-the-teacher cease to exist and a
new term emerges: teacher-student with students-teachers” (Freire, 1970, p. 67). As discussed,
Community of Inquiry, as a distinctive educational form, has vast effects toward the evolution of
the formation of social life that seeks to impede the relations of domination (Kennedy, 2004;
Lipman, 2003). Beginning with forging a transition between the traditional adult-child
relationships, the apt facilitation of communities of dialogical inquiry serves as an indispensable
form of power toward the maintenance of individual and group order and constancy (Kennedy,
2004).
The participant’s role.
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As has been discussed, the teacher/facilitator creates central talk-related aims for the
success of a group dialogue, and the further generation of norm-specific ground rules serves an
important pedagogic feature of a Philosophy for Children program (Hunter, 2008; Kennedy,
2004; Mercer et al., 1999). A class’s ground rules exemplify the main characteristics of
exploratory talk, and once established, students are expected to follow them when engaged in
any joint class discourse (Mercer et al., 1999). It is also important for dialogue participants to
feel a sense of ownership and responsibility for any adherence to such ground rules. An example
which seems to typify consistent structures of pre-dialectic ground rules read as follows (Mercer
& Dawes, 2008 p. 12):
Discuss things together. That means:
o ask everyone for her/his opinion,
o ask for reasons why,
o listen to people.
Everyone participates.
Think before you speak.
Respect the ideas of others – do not use only your own.
Unclear ideas should be treated with respect.
Ideas offered for joint consideration may be challenged.
Challenges should be justified and alternative ideas or understandings should be offered.
Be prepared to change your mind.
All opinions are sought and considered before decisions are jointly made.
Share all ideas and information you have.
Seek agreement.
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Since philosophy can be defined as the application of critical and creative thinking to
questions that are difficult, problems, in essence, have more than one possible solution; resolving
those problems is a matter of exercising judgment (Fisher, 2013). Since asking good questions is
at the crux of engaging a group in a philosophical Community of Inquiry, analyzing the make-up
of a good question can be very useful for children to understand (Fisher, 2013). As they become
used to asking and thinking about questions, their inquiries will become more fluent, more
reflexive, more intricate, and more original. Some strategies used to extend and develop student
thinking include (Fisher, 2013, pp. 146-147)
thinking time (Stahl, 1994) – encourage pauses for thought or some quiet moments of
meditation on a topic
think-pair-share (Lyman, 1981) – allow individual thinking time about a question,
invite discussion of the question with a partner, and then allow for the immersion into
class dialogue
ask follow-ups (Zingaro, 2012) – help students to extend or clarify what they have
said by asking questions that challenge their thinking, such as ‘Why?’, ‘Do you agree
or disagree?’, ‘Can you say more?’, ‘Can you give an example?’
withhold judgment – respond to student answers in a non-evaluative way, not saying
whether you agree or disagree, for example, with a positive but neutral response such
as ‘Thank you’, ‘Okay’, ‘That’s interesting’, ‘All right’, ‘A-ha’, ‘I see’
invite the whole group to respond (Glina, 2013) – encourage a response from the
whole class, for instance, by conducting a survey of opinion
ask for a summary – promote active listening by asking for a summary of what has
been said so far
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allow students to nominate speakers (Glina, 2013) – give students the chance to
choose the next speaker in the discourse
play devil’s advocate (Tomlinson & McTigue, 2006) – challenge students to provide
reasons for their views by presenting opposing points of view or by asking students
for a counter-example
invite a range of responses (Lipman et al., 1980) – model open-mindedness by
inviting students to consider alternative viewpoints
encourage student questioning (Dillon, 1988) – invite students to ask their own
questions before, during, and/or after the discussion
Implementing such a critical, creative, and caring approach to methods of inquiry means
taking seriously what children say and think, what they mean, and in what ways utterances make
sense (Fisher, 2013). Children therefore require clear models and frameworks of good dialogue
to assist them in adopting and improving the skills of dialogue and inquiry (Barnes, 1976;
Mercer & Dawes, 2008; Fisher, 2013).
Criticisms of Philosophy for Children
Implemented as a pedagogical program promoting change in educational theory,
Philosophy for Children has also garnered criticisms as well. Contrasting perspectives related to
Philosophy for Children’s purported endorsement of humanism, support of critical pedagogies,
supposed dedication to concretely limited thought, and devotion to the inadequacies of popular
class discussion model, Socratic Method, have called into question the practice of the program.
The act of engaging in philosophy in the classroom aligns itself seemingly with
twentieth-century humanism – the possibility for human beings to define their own essence and
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origins (Biesta, 2011). The problem with humanism, as Biesta (2011) imparts, is that it specifies
a norm definition of what it means to be human before the actual presence of humanity arises.
Ultimately, it stipulates what a child or student must become before providing them the
opportunity to show who they are and who they will be (Biesta, 2011; Vansieleghem, 2005). If
such forms of humanism exist in our educational forums, the possibility also exists for
newcomers to the system to be unable to alter fixed understandings of what it means to be human
(Biesta, 2011). Subsequently, methods tied to the program of Philosophy for Children create an
education focused, to its theoretical detriment, on the production of a particular type of
subjectivity (Biesta, 2011).
Likewise, Gregory (2011) notes that Philosophy for Children’s ambition of equating
critical thinking with an indirect advancement of critical pedagogies seems to have crossed a
political line. Critical thinking, defended on both ends of the political spectrum as a cognitively
and morally neutral aim of deep examination into the problem of how to think, has created recent
uneasiness (Gregory, 2011). Opponents of the Philosophy for Children program sense that an
adherence to the aims of critical pedagogy teach children what to think. Although the thinking
skills that Philosophy for Children instills have been historically supported by conservative
parents, as well as professional philosophers, what has been deemed as a change in the topics
presented for class discussion has, as of late, spurred animosity (Gregory, 2011). Emancipatory
topics, such that have traditionally been discussed within a student’s own home with his or her
parents have, as some critics suggest, ventured to include talks endorsing an anti-heterosexual
and anti-capitalist way of life – topics that conservative parents suggest they would rather have
their children examine in their presence, under their influence (Gregory, 2011). As discovered by
Gregory (2011) and Murris (2000), religious and social conservatives who would rather not have
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their children question traditional values or who view the teachings of critical theorists such as
Dewey, Freire, Vygotsky, Lipman, Mathews, Giroux, and McLaren to be politically motivated
have found disdain with not only the Philosophy for Children program but with the aims of
classroom critical thinking in general.
Such topics have also been admonished under the concern that young children do not
possess the cognitive faculties to do real philosophy at all (Murris, 2000). Claims have been
made imparting that children are only capable of doing concrete philosophy – absent of any
abstract notions of philosophical thought (Murris, 2000; Piaget, 1977; Santrock, 2008). To
illustrate, Lipman et al. (1980), Sharp (1993), Matthews (1984), and Kennedy & Kennedy
(2011), have indicated that children are only capable of concrete reasoning when talking about
such subjects as: death, dreaming, bravery, time-travel, the material composition of foods, and
sharing the television set (Murris, 2000). Moreover, these examples specify that the gateway to
abstract thought, the qua principle (a theory underlying concrete-thought research), cannot be
comprehended by young children. Murris (2000) further contends that it is true to insist that
children cannot think abstractly from concrete examples. There exists a difficulty for pre-
adolescents to construct general conclusions and apply those to other more concrete cases in
order to form analogies (Murris, 2000).
Murris (2008) does however approve of the kind of traditional Socratic deconstructive
techniques that some practitioners of Philosophy for Children have promoted since the
beginning. She argues that a Philosophy for Children methodology can initiate the process of
removing the certainty with which people take for granted the meaning of ordinary abstract
principles (Smith, 2011). On the other hand, de Bono (1994) is somewhat critical of the Socratic
Method. De Bono (1994, p. 216) claims that the Socratic Method is practiced in schools in such a
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way that it “uses adversarial argument and refutation to explore a subject, and it is fashioned
upon dichotomies and opposites in order to force a judgment choice from which we seek to
derive true definitions.” De Bono (1994), along with critical theorists Freire (1970), Giroux and
McLaren (1989), Shor (1992) and Gadotti (1996), debunk the Socratic Method structure, which
has become very pervasive and influential in Western schools. They have found fault with the
Socratic Method’s rigid rules, harsh judgments, and high degree of righteousness whereby, they
claim, the loss of autonomy will become manifest during its practice. As mentioned previously,
de Bono (1994) struggles with an inadequacy he perceives as prevailing within the practice of
Socratic Method (which has been defined as a group-search for objective truth within developing
contemporary societies) (Copeland, 2010). Conversely, de Bono (1994) speculates that what is
needed for modern life is a creative, more effective approach to problem solving. He introduces
what he argues is a more fundamentally different method of thinking – parallel thinking.
De Bono’s (1994) notion of parallel thinking rejects the adversarial framework of
Socratic Method in favor of a type of thinking out loud that emphasizes the possibility and
creation of understanding (Burgh, 2005; de Bono, 1994; Lipman, 2003). Parallel thinking entails
the presentation of ideas alongside each other. Within this model there exists no clash, no
dispute, and no either/or dichotomies. There instead exists a genuine exploration of a subject
from which conclusions and decisions may be derived through a design process whereby choices
are not limited to the rejection of one idea in favor of the other (de Bono, 1994). Furthermore, if
a problem cannot be solved initially through parallel thinking by removing the cause, an
alternative course of action is presented as a way forward (Burgh, 2005). Burgh (2005), in
contrast, contends that the Socratic Method, if used properly in Philosophy for Children, is not
adversarial and is in fact tied to the ancient philosopher’s quest to foil an unexamined existence
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by means of applying a thirsty embrace of opinions. Serving as a provision for dialogic
practitioners, Fisher (2013, p. 137) developed a comparison chart between Philosophy for
Children and Socratic Method indicating certain commonalities and differences in their
approaches (see Table 1). Yet de Bono (1994) raises the argument that if a proper method is so
readily neglected and so rarely used well, then that method is defective and further claims that
there is little point in saying that it ought to be used properly (Burgh, 2005).
Table 1
Philosophy for Children and Socratic Method
Philosophy for Children Socratic Method
Philosophical story as starting point Philosophical question as starting point
Free-ranging discussion Focus on one question or problem
Expression of alternative viewpoints Aim for consensus of opinion
Inquiry through dialogue Dialogue includes a meta-discourse
Questions written before discussion Questions written during discussion
Oral review of discussion Written review of discussion
Follow-up activities and exercises Further dialogue
Chapter II Summary
Social learning in the classroom has been theorized about, empirically examined, and
practiced as an extension of what best elicits critical, creative, and caring thinking with students.
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The crux of a social learning pedagogy develops through language, and through the process of
thinking out loud students are enabled (with an adherence to dialectical norms) to gain reflective
insights and understandings about presented dilemmas and paradoxes within class disciplines.
Whether or not students learn more dialogically (growing through the acceptance of differences)
or more dialectically (growing as differences are overcome), learning has been shown to be
developed best within the facilitated interactions of class dialogues.
Though closely tied with conversation (subjectively) and/or debate (objectively), class
dialogues tend to occupy a middle ground which allows for reflectivity to emerge in various
forms of talk. A program implementing the consciousness of middle-ground reasoning through
facilitated talk is known as Philosophy for Children. The curriculum model for Philosophy for
Children exists with instruction promoting a classroom culture known as Community of Inquiry.
Community of Inquiry, manifest by its presentation of textual dilemmas, student delivery and
control, and respect for speakers and ideas has made it a constructive learning environment both
praised and admonished for its allowances directed toward student autonomy.
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CHAPTER III
Methodology
Introduction
The purpose of the current study was to document, analyze, and understand the
relationships existent between presented dilemma-texts and paradoxes and how a class of early
adolescents thinks out loud. During this study, the application of theories and findings connected
to social learning through language, Philosophy for Children (along with P4C’s pedagogical
method, Community of Inquiry), and modes of discourse (exploratory, disputational, and
cumulative talk) were employed to assist an analysis of collected narrative transcripts, participant
interviews, and participant surveys. The current study intended to unite the liberating social
learning theories of Dewey (1916), Freire, (1970), Vygotsky (1978), Bahktin (1981), Lipman
(2003), and Shor (1992) with the dialogic procedural norms instituted by Barnes (1976),
Wegerif, Mercer, and Dawes (1999), and Anderson et al. (2001) toward understanding the nature
of adolescent thinking resulting from whole-class talk generated by dilemmas present in
literature and those emerging from lived experience. By incorporating predicaments posed by
suggested dilemma-texts and student-generated topical ideas ripe for discussion (Fisher, 2013;
Kohlberg, 1981; Lipman, 2003, Shor, 1992; Wartenberg, 2009), the emergence of reflective class
talk originated. Initiation into class dialogues further transpired through the integration of
problems posed by traditional/classical stories, since the school curriculum of the research site
adhered to E. D. Hirsch’s (1987) Core Knowledge pedagogy – a classical education model.
Findings from this study will potentially extend the knowledge connected with adolescent social
reasoning and the catalysts promoting reflective engagement. Conclusions derived from the
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current study open avenues for future research of facilitator roles within whole-class talks,
question-prompt construction, dilemma influences on dialogues, and participant responses in
relationship to their prior discourse experiences.
Research Questions
Research question 1: How do traditional/classical stories, philosophical stories/moral
dilemmas, factual narratives, and student/teacher generated prompts influence early adolescents’
thinking out loud within facilitated whole-class dialogues?
Research question 2: Can Community of Inquiry exist with the included presence of
disputational and cumulative talk?
Research question 3: Do ground-rules promoting exploratory talk influence its actuality?
Research Design
The current study implemented a qualitative approach, grounded experimentally and
iteratively from data collected through whole-class dialogic observations, individual student
interviews and surveys, and previous theoretical and empirical studies described in Chapter II of
this dissertation. The qualitative, ethnographic design employed in this study allowed me, as
facilitating participant, to gain an understanding of the relationship between dilemma-text
choices and those reflective dynamics exhibited by early adolescents while thinking out loud. As
maintained by Howe (1988) and Lincoln and Guba (1985), a ethnographic researcher becomes a
mechanism for data collection as he or she observes, interviews, and interacts with research
participants. As described by Glesne (2011, p. 17), ethnography allows for the researcher to
cultivate and build “thick descriptions” needed for understanding how groups construct and share
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meaning. My immersion into these classroom talks as a facilitator also allowed me to observe
and document students’ vocal thoughts and facial cues more so than if I took part as a direct
participant in deliberating posed questions along with the students. Active participation, as
asserted by DeWalt and Dewalt (2011) and Glesne (2011), does not indicate full participation,
whereby the participant-observer takes part in all aspects of the immersion process. Active
participation allows for an observer to remain somewhat removed from the totality of an activity
or event in order to lessen influences from observer to major participants. As an active
participant, researchers take part inasmuch as their involvement can limit biases in their collected
data. Full participation conversely melds the roles of both the observer and participants, making
dual roles difficult to accomplish (DeWalt & DeWalt, 2011; Glesne, 2011). In my roles as both
active participant and teacher, I was able to jot field notes and also guide students to extend and
develop their thinking.
Close analysis related to the effects of dilemma-texts and student generated topics on
reflective thought added a phenomenological characteristic to this study. While observations and
analyses of students’ vocal thoughts proved paramount to the findings of this study, occurrences
of thinking out loud were also investigated in regard to their catalysts. A major part of the current
study was to understand the dynamics of how prompted textual predicaments help generate a
Community of Inquiry and sustain vocal thinking. As this study progressed, the element of
mystery that existed before the initiation of data collection gave way to understanding during my
analyses. A better cognition of the effects of read-aloud dilemmas and topic-question
constructions on vocal expressions, as well as the importance of facilitator dynamics toward the
emergence of exploratory talk, became understood because of the environment presented for the
enactment of this study.
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Researcher Identity
As a middle school teacher at Core Knowledge Academy as well as a doctoral candidate
at Texas Wesleyan University, I conducted the current study in a dual role. As both the grade 7
English/Language Arts teacher to this study’s participants and the author of this dissertation, I
served as an active-participant observer. Active participation in this study was identifiable by
me, as ethnographer, engaging in the facilitation of whole-class dialogues (DeWalt & DeWalt,
2011). The active-participant role for me in the current study functioned under three divisions.
My role as the classroom’s authority, as Glina (2013) asserts, necessitated me to be the teacher
(who interacts to cultivate shared possession of the discourse and to redistribute control of the
talk amongst participants), the facilitator (who is an equal participant in the discourse and who is
positioned to model the norms of exploratory talk), and the researcher, maintained by DeWalt
and DeWalt (2011) and Glesne (2011) (who documents the witnessed and observed experiences
of seventh-graders thinking out loud). This division of identity was actually well suited for
instruction within a constructivist model (Cazden, 2001; Freire, 1970; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff,
1990; Shor, 1992). Here, the teacher engages in minimal direct instruction before allowing his or
her students to use their interactive capabilities to determine the direction of the learning –
permitting the teacher to assist students with extending and developing their thinking (Bandura,
2001; Cazden, 2001; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990). As a teacher keen on creating a classroom
template that embraces social discovery and the exploratory thoughts that spring forth from it, I
had been involved in multiple pilot studies under this division and was comfortable with
immersing myself into a three-part role during this study as well.
The background of the researcher as a learner.
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Growing up and being formatively educated in a rural town, I did what I was told. I
listened to directions, took notes for regurgitation, excelled with lectured facts, did my
homework, and steadfastly negotiated the path set before me, and others, to follow. In
classrooms, I spoke only from a raised hand, and a monologue was never intended unless I was
called upon to produce a monologue: my utterances were purposely short and objectified. I was,
and still consider myself, slow to critically examine instances quickly.
In my youth, personal, critical reflections raced up and down the same two-lane street:
What I evaluated, what challenged or solidified my belief, came by way of authority – the
teacher in the room. Second-guessing was only a personal, mental exercise -- never a vocal one.
However, I rose in this way to “academic” prominence. I became “smart” and maintained the
outward and inward perceptions of an ideal student: the type of student I anticipated my
authorities desired to cultivate. At home, I was much the same. As our familial adherence to truth
was a more objective one; reflective, outward thinking was not a pastime in which we engaged.
Talking at home revolved more around wit, humor, and directives more than around the depth of
subjective discourse. When I left for college, I was reflectively impoverished – destitute in the
ways of critical thinking, wealthy with the triviality of facts and skills.
In college I became more exposed to group discussions and intended talk – in the
classroom and in the dormitory. I rarely offered outwardly to any group. My mind was always
set from the narrowness of my upbringing. If I did engage, my expressions emerged in the form
of quips and humor – as a defense for my reflective insecurities. Classroom talk, to me, was a
cop-out designed for others – a wishy-washy exercise for avoiding the facts of a thing. However,
the more incidences of subjective dialogue I encountered (and the more topics of interest I
became exposed to), the more I eventually wished I possessed the instincts to reflectively join in
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with something topical or profound. Yet I couldn’t risk the blunder – the letdown to others and to
myself -- an embarrassed acknowledgement of my inexperience as an outward thinker.
Nevertheless, within this period of inner, mental confinement, I took a chance to find myself. By
chancing a leap toward critical social interaction – a conscious embrace and participation in
reflective talk that mattered -- I steadily became a more openly thoughtful me.
All along there existed an apprehension to break away from my confines as an absolutist
– someone confident only in the truths deriving from his own experiences. At the age of twenty-
one the theories and beliefs accumulated from my formative education gave way to an embrace
and an integration with the pluralistic perspectives in which I was becoming more exposed. I
began to thirst for opportunities to learn collaboratively, philosophically, and dialectically.
Mentors to emulate were entering into my life, and they were (either directly or indirectly)
influencing a crystallizing change in me that would come to define me as a thinker and,
eventually, a teacher. The “me” hidden within my psyche, rarely considered of personal value,
had been engaged. Professors, their children, and their network of acquaintances and friends at
the university I attended guided me toward a path of critical thought. Philosophy and religion
professors along with Philosophy for Children scholars opened my mind to think differently
about the world. They initiated a belief that I came to grasp some twenty-five years ago:
Understanding can be constructed by an individual through experiences and dialogical
interactions with others – through thinking out loud.
The background of the researcher as a constructivist teacher.
As I entered into the classroom as an afterthought (I was desiring an exit from a corporate
job), I was fueled through the early years of my certification process by realistic opportunities to
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emulate my mentor. He was a philosopher in the classroom, a great respecter of opinions -- a
listener who would seemingly only interject his own thoughts if asked directly or if the
discussion at hand was at an impasse. He calmly and politely posed questions which prompted
his students to pry deeply into their own belief systems in order to evaluate the worth of their
thoughts. In essence, he opened cerebral caverns that allowed his students to fall into themselves.
I found his instructional methods ingenious, liberating, and compassionate; I hoped, as a new
teacher, to hone my own skills as a thoughtful facilitator of learning. He personified how I
wanted to teach and to live.
As a new teacher at a middle school in the rural Texas town in which I was raised, I had
my mind set on interjecting my worldly discoveries on youngsters who I assumed were copies of
my former self. However, without the experience and technique that a teacher accrues through a
certification program or a study of pedagogy, I was presenting myself to my students as a mere
misperception of what my mentor personified. My students, likewise, were not at all falling into
themselves, and I was struggling to keep my wits from steadily drifting toward the skills-driven
existence of a standards-teaching robot. Somehow, though, I knew I could do better; I knew I
could become the type of teacher I had imagined.
I was and have never been privy to consistent and planned reflective interactions with
other teachers, made possible by the administrators of school districts in which I have worked.
The gist of my experience as a constructing participant in professionally engaging talk has only
existed in a university setting. When I returned to the university of my undergraduate degree to
pursue teacher certification with a Master’s degree, the positive force by which I entered the
classroom returned. Equipped with the support of likeminded, constructivist ideas from
professors and students in various classes of pedagogical methodology, I was again revitalized to
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exemplify the confidence required to resonate as a teacher who allowed for a mutual interaction
with my students in the construction of knowledge. Again it was the opportunity to participate in
reflective talk with others that energized my confidence and well-being as a teacher. It was the
active listening, the pursuit of clarification through questioning, the generation of socially
constructed ideas, and the comfort and means by which to offer my own critical and creative
sentiments that activated my own learning. Through this second experience in college, I had
learned more definitively how to practice the methods of my mentor and, perhaps more
importantly, I was falling into myself as a teacher and as a person through an asset of his legacy:
thinking out loud.
The researcher’s experience at Core Knowledge Academy.
As a current seventh- and eighth-grade English/Language Arts teacher going into my
third year at CKA (my twentieth year overall), my perceptions of the school have been mixed.
While given the freedom from my principal to apply a constructivist, instructional approach, this
approach is not conceptually practiced by other teachers in other disciplines on our grade 3
through 8 campus. Most teaching techniques witnessed in grades 6-8 (the middle school) have
revealed the instructional variations of direct lecture. While the lecture/note-taking method has
existed as a staple throughout the tenure of classical education, its mandated use has not been
officially promoted by administrators at CKA or by Core Knowledge founder E. D. Hirsch
(1987).
The Participants and the Setting
Setting foundations.
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Core Knowledge Academy (CKA), a kindergarten through grade 8 charter school located
in a large suburban area of the North Texas metroplex, was formed, as many public charters, out
of parental displeasure with traditional public school options. According to founding member
(and CKA’s first board president), Patrick Barton, the absence of a basic-skills focus within the
public school curriculum of the late 1990’s led him and other parents to explore the charter
alternative for their pre-school aged children. At that time, the only schools matching that
description were expensive private schools located away from Barton’s suburban home-district.
After a casual meeting with William Schulman (then administrator of the Texas Education
Agency and now current Texas Education Commissioner), Barton got the intuition to pursue a
charter school option for his child and for the children of other likeminded parents. In search of
an established curriculum that pedagogically supported the Trivium hierarchy of classical
education and a Latin program, Barton became familiar with and aligned the fledgling charter
school with E.D. Hirsch’s (1987) Core Knowledge approach in 1999. For the past fifteen years,
CKA has existed in cohesion under the Core Knowledge umbrella – which aided in accrediting
the school in its formative years (“P. Barton”, personal communication, July 17, 2014).
The Core Knowledge approach and the trivium hierarchy.
The Core Knowledge approach originated as an educational reform sequence based on
the foundation that a grade-by-grade core of common learning is essential to ensure a sound and
fair education (Hirsch, 1993). As claimed by Hirsch (1993), the Core Knowledge sequence
subsists to provide students with a scope for achieving high academic skill. Hirsch (1993)
contended that such high levels of skill are based upon the acquisition of broad general
knowledge, and offering universal access to this shared knowledge should be the primary duty of
schooling.
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An underlying belief within the Core Knowledge program is that superior reading skill is
highly correlated with most other academic skills. The ability to write well, learn rapidly, solve
problems, and think critically are tied to reading skill (Hirsch, 1987). Therefore, according to
Hirsch (1987 & 1993), to concentrate on helping students to acquire high level reading skills is
to focus on a whole range of educational issues. To this end, the Core Knowledge sequence
supports a focus on its students learning a wide range of fundamental knowledge (Hirsch, 1987
& 1993). As maintained by Hirsch (1987 & 1993), fundamental knowledge is the key to rapid
assimilation and the learning of new skills. Hirsch (1987 & 1993) postulated that it is because the
needs of a modern economy are so unpredictable that students require a broad base of general
knowledge in order to prove successful. For that reason, high literacy provides the flexibility to
learn new things at a faster rate (Hirsch, 1987 & 1993). Since the Core Knowledge sequence sets
no requirements about how specified knowledge should be presented, individual schools (like
Core Knowledge Academy) can allow their teachers great scope for independence and creativity.
In fact, Hirsch (1987) recommends that the Core Knowledge list of accelerated texts comprise
only fifty percent of the classical method content for reading. Teachers are encouraged to expose
their students to other reading texts outside of those suggested by the core. The only stipulation
mandated upon Core Knowledge schools is an adherence to the three-stage Trivium hierarchy for
truth-finding (Hirsch, 1987 & 1993).
A staple instructional progression implemented within the Core Knowledge sequence is
that of the Trivium hierarchy (Hirsch, 1987). The Trivium is a systematic method of critical
thinking for deriving truth from any information coming into the mind through the five senses
(Sayers, 1947). As constructed in medieval universities, the Trivium is comprised of three
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subjects, taught in a specific order: grammar, logic, and rhetoric. If the three steps become taught
out of order, according to Sayers (1947) and Joseph (2002), truth cannot be clearly resultant.
Transitions from grammar to logic to rhetoric reflect the development of students and
their education progresses (Joseph, 2002; Sayers, 1947). Grammar, as identified by Sayers
(1947) should be taught first, indicating the fundamental study of different basic disciplines.
Grammar, as the input or knowledge stage (tied to but not solely descriptive of language skills
associated with sentence structure), exists as the step by which students come to terms with
defining the objects and information around him or her. Grammar provides the basic simplistic
symbols of language necessary to communicate. As such, the basics of reading, writing, and
mathematical computation are instilled during the grammar stage of the Trivium. Grammar
school, as it was once commonly identified, normally continues through grade 5 (Joseph, 2002;
Sayers, 1947).
Logic pertains to a more detailed stage of the Trivium, as contended by Sayers (1947)
and Joseph (2002). Analytic questions begin to arise to be pondered during the logic stage. Logic
(also referred to as dialectic), as advanced by Joseph (2002), forms the mechanics of thought and
analysis. The logic stage, in a sense, is defined by processes of working through speech and
writing allowing for an individual to construct truth. During the logic or understanding stage,
students from grades 6 through 8 move toward identifying fallacious arguments and the removal
of contradictions in speech and writing, allowing for the symbols learned during the grammar
stage to be pieced together (Joseph, 2002; Sayers, 1947). As maintained by Sayers (1947) and
Joseph (2002), logic produces a body of knowledge that can now be trusted and progresses
toward truth.
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The final stage of the Trivium is a progression of the first two whereby the teaching of
rhetoric addresses the place where previous knowledge is brought to fulfilment. Rhetoric (also
referred to as wisdom), usually implemented during grades 9 through 12, is the use of language
to instruct and persuade. An activity such as debate exemplifies an assignment related to rhetoric.
In debate, the basic grammar skills associated with word identity in combination with a certainty
achieved from the phase of deliberation (logic) allows for an individual to exceed at winning an
argument and ultimately persuading an opponent to alter his or her beliefs. In this sense, rhetoric
takes the comprehensive knowledge gained in the logic stage and manipulates it as a means to an
educational end (Joseph, 2002; Sayers, 1947).
Further description of Core Knowledge Academy.
The Core Knowledge Foundation and CKA’s mission is to provide its students with a
high-quality, well-rounded education at an accelerated pace. The aspect of high-quality stems
from the Core Knowledge sequence and a classical approach dictated by the Trivium hierarchy
(Core Knowledge Foundation, 2014). CKA supports well-roundedness through its multi-
disciplinary course offerings reminiscent of a traditional liberal arts approach. The school no
longer offers Latin, yet high school level Spanish and Algebra are credited to enrolled middle
school students (J. Herr, personal observations, August-May, 2013).
As Sayers (1947) and Hirsch (1987) asserted, a central focus of the classical model of
education is on students’ ability to read at a high, critical level in order to acquire fundamental
knowledge, progressing through the Trivium toward truth and certainty. Likewise, CKA’s
principal intent is to provide a means for the acquisition of essential knowledge through the
reading and analysis of accelerated texts. Accelerated texts, as identified within the Core
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Knowledge sequence (Core Knowledge Foundation, 2014), include classical and traditional
poems, stories, novels, essays and speeches, autobiography, and drama lauded throughout the
canon of Western civilization. The Core Knowledge sequence (Core Knowledge Foundation,
2014, p. 178-179) delineates a listing of these classic texts in such a grouping as to accelerate
each grade level (1-8) one year above average. Therefore, my grade 7 students will be exposed to
texts generally accessible to eighth-graders in a traditional public school setting. Furthermore,
my own student-participants will read various texts from this listing (see Table 2), and my study
will incorporate six Core Knowledge reading recommendations.
Table 2
Textual Listing of the Grade 7 Core Knowledge Sequence
Poems
Annabel Lee (Edgar Allan Poe)
Because I could not stop for Death (Emily Dickinson)
The Charge of the Light Brigade (Alfred Lord Tennyson)
The Chimney Sweeper (William Blake)
The Cremation of Sam McGee (Robert Service)
Dulce et Decorum Est (Wilfred Owen)
Fire and Ice; Nothing Gold Can Stay (Robert Frost)
Heritage (Countee Cullen)
Macavity: The Mystery Cat (T.S. Eliot)
The Negro Speaks of Rivers; Harlem; Life is Fine (Langston Hughes)
This is Just to Say; The Red Wheelbarrow (William Carlos Williams)
Short Stories
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“The Gift of the Magi” (O. Henry)
“The Necklace” (Guy de Maupassant)
“The Secret Life of Walter Mitty” (James Thurber)
“The Tell-Tale Heart” (Edgar Allan Poe)
Novels
The Call of the Wild (Jack London)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (Robert Louis Stevenson)
Essays and Speeches
“Shooting an Elephant” (George Orwell)
“The Night the Bed Fell” (James Thurber)
“Declaration of War on Japan” (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
Autobiography
Diary of a Young Girl (Anne Frank)
Drama
Cyrano de Bergerac (Edmund Rostand)
A current site description of Core Knowledge Academy.
Currently incorporating grades K-8 at two campus locations (K-2 at the primary campus
and grades 3-8 at the intermediate/middle school campus), Core Knowledge Academy has
operated as a charter school option in North Texas for fifteen years. The site used for my study,
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the grades 3-8 campus, was acquired by the school in 2011 from a private, parochial school.
Grades 3-5 are housed in one main building while grades 6-8 operate in various other portable
buildings and in a three-story brick castle, the latter location perhaps fitting for a school so tied to
the classical model of learning.
The overall student population of CKA is approximately 1,400 -- kindergarten through
grade 8. The ethnic make-up of Core Knowledge Academy has steadily begun to shift and
diversify since the expansion to dual campuses in 2011. The Anglo majority has decreased to 48
percent of the total student population while the African-American population has risen to near
21 percent since the expansion. CKA’s Asian-American, Arab-American, and Hispanic
populations have also risen slightly since the 2011 expansion to 11 percent, 10 percent, and 10
percent respectively.
Core Knowledge Academy is fed largely by students from two very populated public
school districts: Llano Vista (city population of over 400,000) and Muller (city population of
over 100,000). As these burgeoning districts have continued to increase in size, so too has an
identifiable movement by some parents to relocate their children to schools with smaller overall
populations and significantly smaller class sizes. This coming school year (2014-2015), Core
Knowledge Academy’s enrollment will increase from the last, yet its numbers will still remain
substantially less than neighboring public school populations. Middle grades 6-8 at CKA (the
division from which my participant sample will come) will house approximately 340 students
this school year (2014-2015), and of that population, nearly 120 students will be enrolled in the
seventh grade. From the roughly 120 total seventh-graders, I teach 51 of those students. One of
my two seventh grade classes was chosen for this current study.
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Participant Selection
The participants of this study originated wholly from a single seventh-grade
English/Language Arts class at Core Knowledge Academy. This past spring I was informed by
the middle school principal that I would teach two sections of seventh-grade ELA. From one of
these two classes of seventh-graders, I identified my study-sample of participants. I chose to
study a class of students from B-block, fifth-period. The sample class of participants was
comprised entirely of mixed-gender twelve and thirteen year-olds of various ethnicities: Anglo,
African-American, Asian-American, Arab-American, and Hispanic. Although comprised of 25
students, the ratio of girls to boys coupled by an even mix of ethnicities identified my B5 class as
the better exploratory option for the current study. Fourteen girls and 11 boys were enrolled in
this research class. My research class was comprised of 14 Anglos, five African-Americans,
three Asian-Americans, two Hispanic-Americans, and one Arab-American. Twenty-two of 25
participants had a previous experience in sixth grade at CKA, but none had had me as a teacher.
This class of participants was exposed mainly to an Initiate-Response-Evaluation (IRE) structure
of schooling, and their prior experiences with class dialogues, Community of Inquiry, and
exploratory talk were non-existent to the point of this current study. Furthermore, the
participants’ acquaintances with this study’s examination texts were vague or totally unfamiliar
as the dilemmas and paradoxes chosen for discussion derived from the accelerated Core
Knowledge canon for seventh-grade. Furthermore, the philosophical/moral dilemmas were
chosen from a learning program (P4C) in which participants were also unfamiliar. Within this
researched class, nine students emerged as dominant-speakers who consistently always led the
group in verbal engagement. A small number of other participants proved to be non-dominant
speakers who gained confidence in engaging as their relationships with our lead-speakers
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deepened and matured. Also within this participant-group there four or five students who
consistently engaged very little or perhaps not at all. Cues of understanding gleaned from silent,
selective, and dominant speakers were observed and analyzed during this study.
Data Collection
As an active participant, facilitating and observing all aspects of examined dialogues for
this study, I collected narrative data that resulted from natural English/Language Arts instruction
within my classroom. As the teacher, I presented the norms for discussion, chose and provided a
means for dilemma-text comprehension, and facilitated whole-class dialogues which extended
and deepened the thinking of individual participants. As the researcher of this study, I focused
my observations on the vocal moves and facial cues participants made during enacted dialogues.
During each examined dialogue, I intently engaged in active listening and visual observation,
transferring mental notes to field notes within a hard-copy, spiral journal. Each dialogue’s field
notes of participant/facilitator responses were then typed into a verbatim transcript (via iPad
audio recordings that were deleted following transcription) and filed and saved electronically
into Microsoft Word 2013. Each dialogue’s transcripts and its coinciding field notes were then
coded, analyzed, and triangulated (twice) with associated individual interviews and surveys
(conducted during the next class period following the dialogue) along with theoretical and
empirical conclusions gleaned from Bahktin (1981), Barnes (1976), Fisher (2013), Lipman
(2003), Shor, 1992, Vygotsky (1978), and Wegerif, Mercer, and Dawes (1999). Table 3
represented the type of narrative transcript that derived from my compilation of audio recordings.
This template was further indicative of student-to-student/student-to-teacher relationships and
facilitator moves consistent in Philosophy for Children discourse.
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Table 3 (Fisher, 2013 pp. 138-140)
Philosophy for Children Transcript Example (11-12 year-olds): Do you think all the time or just
some of the time?
Facilitator: Do you think all the time or just some of the time?
Richard: It depends on what you mean by thinking.
Facilitator: What do you think it means?
Richard: When you’re asleep you are not really thinking because you are not talking to
yourself in your mind.
Mark: You only think some of the time.
Toby: You relax.
Nick: You rest.
Alex: You’re not just relaxing… you can sleep.
Paul: When you’re asleep, your mind is still working… like it is dreaming and stuff like
that.
Facilitator: So thinking is different from your mind just working?
Sarah: Thinking is talking to yourself in your mind. You say things to yourself, like you’re
talking.
Lucy: And talking to other people.
Emma: I think that thinking is talking in words.
Facilitator: Can you think without words?
Tom: You can think without words… you can think in pictures as well.
Leonard: I agree with Tom. You can think in words and pictures, like I’m thinking of a
cartoon, and that’s words and pictures.
Facilitator: Does everyone agree that you can think in words and pictures?
Students: Yeah.
Facilitator: Have we decided that we think while we’re asleep?
Tom: No, you’ve got to be conscious. You’ve got to know you are thinking, otherwise you
are not thinking.
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Duncan: I disagree with Tom. If you dream you are thinking…
Tom: No, because you can’t change anything about it. You don’t know what’s happening.
Nick: Thinking is your thoughts. Your thoughts is what you get when you think. I think he
thought…
Facilitator: Perhaps it would help to ask… can you think without thinking of something?
Toby: You can’t think without thinking.
Helen: You’ve got to think of something. If you don’t…
Lisa: You can’t think of nothing.
Helen: No, I agree with Paul, there is always something going on in your head. There’s no
time when there’s nothing going on or you’d be dead. A dead head.
Richard: What happens when you’re unconscious?
Lee: You’re still thinking, but you don’t know what you’re thinking… if you’re knocked
out. That’s what it means. You’re out… you are out of your mind. (Laughter)
Nick: You can think of nothing.
Tom: But if you thinking of nothing, you are thinking of something. You can’t think of
nothing. If you are thinking of nothing, you are not thinking.
Toby: If you have nothing in your mind, you are still thinking of something.
Richard: That’s impossible. That’s not how it works.
Facilitator: If you were thinking of the word ‘nothing’, would you be thinking of nothing?
Nick: Yes, that would be nothing. If you’re thinking of nothing… it’s nothing.
Ashleigh: I disagree with Nick, because if you think of the word ‘nothing’ you are still thinking
of something.
Facilitator: (seeking summary and consensus) What can you say now about the difference
between thinking and dreaming?
Richard: You can control your thoughts, but you can’t control your dreams.
Lee: Yeah… dreams don’t always make sense.
Gerald: In the day you’re thinking all the time. You have millions of thoughts… but only a
few dreams, or no dreams.
Kirsty: You can’t control your dreams, but you can start thoughts by thinking of something.
Lydia: Like we’re doing now.
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Annika: You can’t control your dreams…
Facilitator: Thank you. I think we’ll have to stop now… can anyone think of any other questions
about thinking we’ve not asked?
Henry: Can you think in your mommy’s tummy… I mean, before you’re born?
Facilitator: That’s interesting, thank you. Okay… Can you write down any thoughts you’ve got
about what we discussed or any questions or ideas you’ve got ready for another
time…?
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It was my intent for each dialogue’s transcriptions to serve as a record for each
participant’s dialogic identity. From the thorough evaluation and analysis of collected transcripts
from each talk, findings and conclusions were applied toward the understanding of how
adolescent participants think out loud with one another and me, the facilitator. Findings, from
thorough coded analyses, indicated how each participant (within each dialogue) engaged within
the three modes of dialogic thinking (exploratory, disputational, and cumulative). Coding
methods used to delineate the emergence of uttered argument stratagems aided me in the analysis
of individual and whole-class reasoning. In relationship to the indicators signifying the
development of a Community of Inquiry, dialogue transcripts were also scrutinized so as to
identify instances of critical, creative, and caring talk.
In an overall sense, the vocal thoughts of each participant aided in grounding a theory for
understanding each student’s own thinking. The overall body of collected data (from the
transcripts, field notes of four months of class dialogues, post-dialogue surveys, and exit surveys)
iteratively produced thorough conclusions of how this class of participants thought out loud in
relationship to the four categories of dilemma-texts presented: philosophical/moral dilemmas,
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traditional/classical stories, factual narratives, and non-textually generated topics of popular
interest.
Doing class dialogue.
For me as facilitator of the current study, the implementation of dialogic teaching
combined instructional elements from both Philosophy for Children and Socratic Method. Both
presented interactive attributes important for sparking critical, creative, and caring forms of
inquiry with adolescents, as compared by Fisher (2013) in Table 1 of this study (p. 77). While
much of how this study’s initiation into examined talks were constructed through Lipman’s
(2003) P4C model, the inclusion of a post-dialectic, expressive written element (as proposed
through Socratic Method) was initiated to help students solidify their own understandings of
what just transpired. K-W-L charts were used throughout the dialogic processes of each of the 14
observed talks. Furthermore, in order to extend students’ abilities to think out loud with breadth
and depth, deconstructive, more Socratic methods using adversarial, deconstructive
argumentation were also required, especially by the teacher-facilitator. Adherence to the
Philosophy for Children methodology was most present in two areas: question construction and
speaker prompting. Within this study, participants constructed nine topic-questions and choose
12 of 14 questions for discussion by voting; two others were chosen without student input.
During these talks, participants identified and called-on other participants who wanted to engage
vocally. A goal (according to established exploratory talk norms) was for everyone to participate.
While the aspects of critical, creative, and caring talk were essential to the promotion of a
classroom community, a delicate balance was enacted by me as facilitator to maintain the
inclusion of all three.
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The initial starting points for dialogic data collection from this study occurred after the
dilemma-texts were read-aloud and the ground-rules were reviewed. Participants next engaged in
an individual-brainstorming activity to fill in What I Know and What I Hope to Learn sections of
a K-W-L chart before the beginning of each dialogue. The activities from the K-W-L chart were
designed to allow individual participants a chance to take their initial textual comprehension and
construct critical questions for submission in the next phase of the dialogic process: Questions
for Discussion. At the Questions for Discussion stage, individual participants nominated aloud
any questions they thought the entire class would like to engage in philosophically. As the
facilitator, I jotted all student-question suggestions onto a whiteboard in the order which they are
announced. If questions were submitted through our class social learning website, Edmodo®, I
also included those onto the main dry-erase board. From that list I next allowed students to vote
(heads down so as not to be too influenced by peers) on the questions they would prefer to
discuss. Student-participants voted as often as they wished, and after the class had voted on each
question from the list, the order of our discussion, based on votes given for the topic-questions,
was established. The question that received the most votes was discussed first; other questions,
based on the next highest number of votes received, fell into the discussion queue if time
permitted. Only once, during Dialogue 8, did the class discuss a second topic-question because
time permitted.
As the student’s desks were already positioned in a horseshoe fashion, I next proceeded
with my recording devices and notebook to a seat within the arrangement where I could best
observed all participants’ faces and hear their voices for potential cues of information. At this
point I posed our initial question aloud and allowed for students to think out loud. Since
engagement is essential for the depth of a dialogue, it became imperative for students who
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wished to speak to get a chance to do so. As the facilitator of these examined talks, I modeled for
the participants initially by calling on the first speaker. Thereafter, the participants called on the
next students who would join the dialogues. I would occasionally interject procedurally if
dialogues were drifting off-topic or if speakers were monopolizing the conversation with lengthy
monologues. As facilitator, I also modeled care and respectful engagement by acknowledging
something about the previous speaker’s opinions expressed. These utterances and chances to
inquiry substantially with participants were the moments of active participation that I most
anticipated as facilitator.
As dialogues stabilized, I was primed to engage in my multi-faceted role of facilitator,
teacher, and researcher. Although I made time to jot observation field notes during a given
dialogue, much of my time during a given talk was consumed by active listening – listening to
participants’ thinking and forming my own substantial questions (see Table 4) that would prove
critical for extending and developing the depth of their thinking. However, I was generally
careful not to rush forward my questions, mindful that an in-tune participants probably had
similar questions forming, and his or her delivery of that question meant more for the overall
critical and creative construction of Community of Inquiry.
Table 4 (Fisher, 2013, p. 118)
Questions to Stimulate Philosophical Discussion of Stories
Questions Cognitive function of questions
What happened? Identifying facts in a story
What did they do?
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How did they feel in the story? Responding to experience
What did you feel when you read that?
What did they think in the story? Reflecting on personal/social issues
What did you think about it?
What choices did they have? Exploring moral decisions
How might the story have been different?
Why do you say that? Reasoning
Can you give me a reason?
What do you mean by…? Defining/analyzing/clarifying
Can anyone explain that to us?
Has anyone got another idea/thought/example? Generating alternative views
Who else can say something about it?
How could we tell if it was true? Testing for truth
How do you/we know?
Who agrees/disagrees with ____? Why? Sustaining dialogue/argument
Can you say who/what you agree/disagree with?
Who can remember what we have said? Summarizing
What are the ideas/arguments we have said?
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Once a dialogue ended (normally because of time constraints), student-participants were
asked to reflect via a survey questionnaire attached to the end of their initial K-W-L charts. In the
What You Learned section of the chart, student-questions regarding the strengths and
weaknesses of the talk were analyzed, identification of members who uttered important thoughts
were jotted, and a personal response to the major question of the talk was documented (by
participants). It is this completed page (the K-W-L chart) that existed as the only graded attribute
of a given dialogue.
With a dialogue and its post-talk evaluation complete, student-participants were asked to
extend the dialogical experience of the talk in writing. A post-dialogue handout was made
available for students to identify further their impressions about the topic-question question or
the process of the talk itself. This survey activity served participants as a follow-up extension
helpful for the development of their sense-making skills and expressive attributes. Furthermore,
the post-dialogic time (the next class day) provided student-participants a chance to extend their
understandings of the dialogue question(s) with an opportunity to collaborate on one of various
follow-up mini-projects (narratives, poems, expository writings, video diaries, web-page design,
etc.) as a progression through the rhetoric (application) stage of the Trivium. This collaborative
engagement after an examined talk also allowed me an optimal occasion in which to interview
participants with the prospect of gathering more data about individual perceptions of posed
questions and the structure and procedures of the previous talk. The interview protocol (as
indicated by Table 5) aided in the data collection process by jogging a participant-interviewee’s
memory as I inquired through the stages of the previous dialogue. The format helped data
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analysis in that the interview questions posed strived to uncover further information regarding
the three research questions of the current study.
Table 5
Potential Post-Dialogue Interview Questions for Participants
Dilemma related:
Was the controversy from the story interesting to you?
How so?
Do you like talking about the type of controversy that was in this story?
Why or why not?
What could have made the problem or controversy more interesting?
Dialogue process:
Did you submit a question to be voted on?
Which question did you offer us?
Who said something during the dialogue that you agreed with?
What was said?
Who said something during the dialogue that you disagreed with?
What was said?
What was the most important thing you said during the dialogue?
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What agreements, if any, did the class come to?
What is your truth to the main question we talked about?
Was there anything that you said that you wished you hadn’t?
What was the most interesting part of the dialogue according to you?
Participation concerns:
Did you feel comfortable speaking out during this dialogue?
Why or why not?
What might have made you feel more comfortable?
Do you feel you got to say all that you wanted?
Explain.
Norm concerns:
How do you think our dialogue rules were followed?
Explain.
Timeline.
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Data was collected for this study from September 5 through December 18, 2014 at Core
Knowledge Academy. It was my intent to engage my grade 7 participants in whole-class
dialogues for four months – roughly one discourse per week from Labor Day until the end of the
fall semester. Feasibility to engage in extended student-led talks more than once per week was
lessened this school year at CKA because middle school classes met every-other-day. What this
meant for my study-class was that, while we were afforded more time per period to engage
(potentially 60 minutes), the class actually met half as many times as a traditional class that
might meet every day did. In reality, during one given week we convened three times, and during
the following week we met only twice. Even posed with an abbreviated meeting schedule, my
intent turned into reality, as I was able to provide a weekly opportunity for my study-class to take
part in an examined class discussion throughout the fall semester.
Initially, pilot dialogues during the first three weeks of school were also enacted to
familiarize participants with the basic procedures of exploratory talk and to expose them to
critical, creative, and caring discourse. In an attempt to meaningfully involve student-participants
into the first examined process of thinking out loud, I enticed their interests to engage together
with a chance to discuss a non-textually generated topical situation. Since there were four
categories in my talk-rotation sequence, variations of dilemma types did not repeat for a time
period of four weeks. In this configuration, for example, non-textually generated topics did not
come open for discussion again until after a dilemma from each of the other three categories
transpired. My commitment to vary dilemma categories from dialogue to dialogue followed this
presented sequence (see Table 6): non-textually generated topic, philosophical story/moral
dilemma, traditional/classic story, and factual narrative.
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Table 6
Dialogue Schedule
Open Observation Weeks Category/Dilemma Text
Week of September 2-5 Non-Textually Generated Topic
Week of September 8-12 Philosophical/ “The Heinz Dilemma”
Week of September 15-19 Traditional/ “The Necklace”
Week of September 22-26 Factual/ “Shooting an Elephant”
Week of Sept. 29- Oct. 3 Non-Textually Generated Topic
Week of October 6-10 Philosophical/ “Frederick”
Week of October 20-24 Traditional/ “The Tell-Tale Heart”
Week of October 27-31 Factual/ “The Night the Bed Fell”
Week of November 3-7 Non-Textually Generated Topic
Week of November 10-14 Philosophical/ “The Runaway Trolley”
Week of November 17-21 Traditional/ “A Sound of Thunder”
Week of December 1-5 Factual/ “Declaration of War on Japan”
Week of December 8-12 Non-Textually Generated Topic
Week of December 15-18 Philosophical/ “The Afghan Goatherds”
Treatment of the Data
Data collected from this study was observed from four school months of dialogic
narrative transcripts, coinciding interviews with participants, and the results analyzed from post-
dialogue and exit surveys obtained after each talk and at the culmination of all dialogues,
respectively. Foremost, the analysis of Research Question 1 (How do traditional/classical stories,
philosophical stories/moral dilemmas, factual narratives, and non-textually generated prompts
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influence early adolescents’ thinking out loud within facilitated whole-class dialogues?) lended
knowledge to the other three essential questions. Therefore, coding all transcriptions using a
narrative analysis technique aided in understanding the effects of disputational and cumulative
talk on the construction of critical, creative, and caring discourse, and how participant knowledge
of exploratory-talk ground rules related to the existence of such talk (Soter et al., 2008).
Soter et al. (2008) essentially constructed three divisions from nine literary discussion
approaches in order to code his study of 36 narrative transcripts. Similar to Soter et al. (2008), I
established three major coding divisions for thirteen verbal stratagems (Anderson et al., 2001;
Reznitskaya & Anderson, 2006) uttered by my class of participants. The three divisions which
constituted thinking out loud, as found by Barnes (1976) and Wegerif, Mercer, and Dawes
(1999), were categorized as exploratory, disputational, and cumulative. Seven of 13 verbal
stratagems, as identified by Anderson et al. (2001) and Reznitskaya and Anderson (2006), served
this study with a base of specified utterances common to empirical research (Dong, Anderson,
Kim, & Li, 2008; Kim, 2001; Reznitskaya, Anderson, & Kuo, 2007; Reznitskaya et al., 2001;
Reznitskaya et al., 2009 & 2012) enacted to explore post-dialogic reasoning abilities.
Seven additional question-utterances were included for the current study’s coding bank as
well. As indicative of exploratory talk, student questioning, for the most part, is an attempt to
gain further clarification toward critical, creative, and caring knowledge and is suggestive of the
emergence of reflective thought (Dewey, 1916; Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003; Reznitskaya et al.,
2001). Unless a personal question posed by dialogue participants was uttered to provoke a
rebuttal, the six other interrogative inquiries reflected honest inquiries toward social learning and
were attributed to the division linked to exploratory talk (Reznitskaya et al., 2001). Two other
identifiable utterances to be ascribed to the disputational division were related to off-topic and
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anecdotal speech. Moves by which participants delved into personal stories of remembrance
were indicative of speech made in a disputational, uncritical way. Talk that blatantly shifted the
course of the discourse to the speakers’ benefit was likewise revealing of a merge toward
disputational aspects of dialogue as well (Reed, 1992; Reznitskaya et al., 2001).
It was also essential that, as asserted by Glina (2013), coding for facilitator utterances
was viewed more as substantive then intrusive. As recognized by Glina (2013), facilitators are
equal participants in dialogic engagements who are positioned to model proper inquiry
techniques, foster shared possession of the talk, and help to reorganize power amongst all
participants. Facilitator utterances carry great authority in a given dialogue even when the intent
is to host a student-led discourse (Glina, 2013). Since facilitators generally speak procedurally
(to direct participants within the established norms) or substantively (influencing the direction of
individual’s thinking and the movement of the talk), coding categories applying to me, as the
facilitator, were included within the exploratory talk division (Glina, 2013).
All combined (see Table 7), 16 participant utterances and two facilitator categories were
applied to three modes of thinking out loud to form the code-scheme for this study (Anderson, et
al., 2001; Reed, 1992; Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Soter et al., 2008). Although originally more
utterance-moves were considered in the construction of this discourse coding scheme (22 codes),
several of those considered overlapped or were never expressed to be coded. Therefore,
following the first read-through and coding attempt for all 14 dialogue transcripts, I decided to
condense the original list of codes to fit the actual utterances that were expressed by participants.
Table 7
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Discourse Analysis Coding Scheme
Modes of Thinking Out Loud Verbal Stratagems/Identifying Questions
Exploratory talk = Explorations
- Critical and constructive reasoning Request for reasons = RR
combined with caring interactions Inference/deduction = ID
Clarification/restatement = CR
Passing to request = rr
Divergent question = DQ
Assessment question = AQ
Information question = IQ
Position statement = QP
*Procedural interjection = Pro
*Substantive interjection = Sub
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Disputational talk = Disputes Simple disagreement w/o reasons = SD
- Applies disagreement and Counterargument = CA
individual decision-making Rebuttal = RB
Argumentation = AR
Topic shifting = TS
Personal question = PQ
Speaker disregard = RE
Non-reasoned response = NR
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Cumulative talk = Agree Alignment of previous ideas = Agree
- Cooperative, uncritical talk
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Note. * indicates facilitator-talk category
Provisions for Trustworthiness
The collection of data for this study was triangulated through a four-part iterative
process: field notes, dialogue audio recordings, participant-interviewee comments, and
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participant, post-dialogue survey results were transcribed and coded according to a designed
Discourse Analysis Coding Scheme as indicated by Table 7 (Anderson et al., 2001; Reed, 1992;
Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Soter et al., 2008); conclusions from data collection were then matched
with theoretical and empirical studies from Bahktin (1981), Barnes (1976), Fisher (2013),
Lipman (2003), Shor, 1992, Vygotsky (1978), and Wegerif, Mercer, and Dawes (1999). Also,
appendices to include all field notes, transcription copies with coded notes, interview questions
with complete comment narratives, and post-dialogue surveys are part of this dissertation’s audit
trail and are available for perusal.
Chapter III Summary
This qualitative, ethnographic study exploring the relationships between provided
dilemma-texts and the vocal dynamics of student-participants’ thinking out loud was observed,
documented, and facilitated by the author of this dissertation. One seventh-grade class at charter
school Core Knowledge Academy was chosen to engage in four school months of whole-class
dialogues in order to better identify and understand the relationship of each participant and each
talk to three divisions of discourse and to the formation of communities of philosophical inquiry.
While adhering to the accelerated mandates brought forth by the Core Knowledge curriculum,
methods and procedures were conducted in accordance to general instructional practices within
an English/Language Arts classroom. Participant vocal utterances during examined dialogues,
interview comments made following, and survey data elicited following talks were further coded
and triangulated alongside critical philosophies and emergent empirical studies in an attempt to
ground any developing findings the current study ultimately presented.
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CHAPTER IV
Analysis of Data
Purpose of the Study
The purpose of this study was to document, analyze, and understand the emergent and
ongoing relationships between textual/non-textual dilemmas and peer-to-peer vocal expressions.
This study prompted one class of 25 seventh-grade English/Language Arts students to vocally
react and reason out loud to class-constructed dilemma topics over a period of four months.
Read-aloud stories of traditional fiction, factual narratives, and moral dilemmas along with topics
of student interest were discussed and analyzed throughout the data collection period. Recorded
whole-class narrative transcripts, participant interviews, and participant surveys aided to
iteratively serve in the interpretation of dynamics gleaned from 14 different Thinking Out Loud
discussions. Interpretations of this study’s collection of narrative data focused on exploring
comparable and merging dynamics existent between the practical implementation of Philosophy
for Children and the structural application of achieving exploratory talk. Findings collected from
this study will potentially extend the body of knowledge connected to adolescent social
reasoning and the catalysts promoting reflective engagement in the classroom.
Research Questions
I identified three overarching questions to explore through the collection of narrative data
in this ethnographic study. Foremost, I wanted to understand the influence of presented
dilemmas (fictitious, factual, moral, and student-interest) on individual and group vocalized
reasoning through the enactment of whole-class dialogues. Next, as the dialogical environment I
presented merged aspects of Philosophy for Children’s Community of Inquiry and those of
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Barnes’ (1976) exploratory talk, I wanted to explore whether or not representations of
Community of Inquiry were possible in the midst of disputing and cumulative sequences of
discourse. Finally, I wanted to discover if by following posted procedural norms for engaging in
exploratory talk, participants became influenced to express themselves in more exploratory
ways.
Research question 1: How do traditional/classical stories, philosophical
stories/moral dilemmas, factual narratives, and non-textually generated prompts
influence early adolescents’ thinking out loud within facilitated whole-class
dialogues?
Research question 2: Can Community of Inquiry exist with the included
presence of disputational and cumulative talk?
Research question 3: Do ground-rules promoting exploratory talk influence its
actuality?
Chapter Overview
The findings and interpretations of this study are divided into four parts: Part I provides
an analysis of all observed data collected from four months of whole-class dialogue
transcriptions. Part II addresses Research Question 1 through the further interpretation of
dialogue transcripts in correlation to topics presented in class. Part III, focusing on Research
Question 2, offers an exploration of existent relationships between Community of Inquiry and
argument/agreement talk. Part IV examines the effect of ground-rule norms and their connection
to the promotion of exploratory talk – as posed by Research Question 3.
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In this study of whole-class dialogues, whereby each of the 14 observed discussions
centered around one read-aloud topic question, 25 grade-seven student participants were “given
the floor” to think out loud. As research and dialogue facilitator, I interjected procedurally to
keep the talk moving in a respectful way so that the discourse environment was an accepting
place to speak freely, creatively, and socially. I interjected substantially to prompt deeper and
more critical reasoning from participants. While I played an essential role in each of the 14
observed talks, my vocal moves were not to be the focus of these dialogues: The focus was to
provide a weekly outlet for students to construct a related question of interest and to explore it by
thinking out loud.
Part I: Discourse Analysis
Class Dialogue 1 – September 5, 2014: Non-Textually Generated Topic (21:00).
I decided to ease students into the dialogic process with an autonomous motive: Allow
for the participants to construct the topic for our first discussion. In this sense, participants might
come to understand that these talks would be engineered by them and that my role as facilitator
would be immediately exemplified by a constructive leniency. Shor (1992) had found the
emergence of student-generated topics as a construct that could penetrate the schism existent
between that of authoritative talk and peer conversation. According to Shor (1992), allowing
students to generate topics for whole-class discussions led discourse into a “third idiom” by
which teacher and student talk could merge into a relational talk much like conversation. The
presence of a more natural conversation was also an intent of mine within this first dialogue. All
23 of my participants (later to be 25) had had no prior experience related to whole-class dialogue
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as a way to reason through a question. For that reason, I wanted student-generated talk to set the
tone for the constructive take that would typify all of our Thinking Out Loud talks.
Our first topic was chosen by student participants from a list of 20 possible talking points.
This list of topic questions was created from participant-logged queries into Edmodo® (our
classroom social-learning website), formerly-successful exploratory discourse questions
provided by me, and topics of philosophical yet grade-level interest -- as made available in
Teaching Thinking: Philosophical Enquiry in the Classroom by Robert Fisher (2013). Students
then voted (for as many of the questions as desired) to determine which of the topics would spark
our discussion. Voting this time was done with the participants’ heads up, allowing for them to
see the raised hands of others (This heads-up method happened just this once, as I believe that
peer-influenced hand-raising occurred here). The topic question receiving the most hand-raised
votes with 21 was Becca’s query: Why don’t we pay attention more to lyrics in music?
Receiving the second most votes with 17 was a topic associated with disdainful feelings toward
our uniform student dress code.
With student-desks positioned in a horseshoe semicircle around the classroom, each
touching the tip of the next, I stood before the whole group to talk directly. Before commencing
this dialogue, as with all talks that followed, I led a short discussion about our 12 ground-rule
norms essential for doing Thinking Out Loud (These were a close variation of those norms
produced by Mercer and Dawes in 2008, found on page 71 of this study). Since this was the first
time enacting a class dialogue with these students, I found it necessary to spend extended time
defining and providing examples for each of the 12 ground-rules posted at the front of the
classroom. These norms were visible in class in bold dry-erase marker colors on four small
white-boards – two on each side of a large, centered dry-erase board. They read as follows:
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1. Discuss things together.
2. Everyone participates.
3. Think before you speak.
4. Respect the ideas of others.
5. Unclear ideas should be treated with respect.
6. Ideas may be challenged.
7. Challenges should be justified.
8. Alternative ideas should be offered.
9. Be prepared to change your mind.
10. All opinions are considered before decisions are made.
11. Share all ideas and information you have.
12. Seek agreement.
At the onset of this first discourse, and before each observed future dialogue, I briefly
spoke about a facet or facets from the ground-rules list. I purposely made aims to inform the
participants often that this type of talk was different from a debate or an argument where there
would be a winner and a loser. In Thinking Out Loud, I extended, the goals of our conversation
would be focused on exploration: trying to find out as much as we could about a question by way
of listening and probing the thoughts, ideas, and further questions of all students in our
classroom community. I directed the class to invite all students into our conversation during the
course of each talk. To do so I indicated that we should adhere to a system of speaking one-at-a-
time, trying to avoid interruptions. Interruptions, I specified, would be tolerated by me as
facilitator only if the interjection emerged in the form of a question to the one who “had the
floor.” I further expressed my desire for new speakers to enter into our talks by way of being
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called on by the previous speaker. Students, I directed, should make known their aspiration to
talk by raising a hand.
I further spoke to all participants about the equal importance of respect for all uttered
ideas. Arguments would happen and could even lead to future exploration of a topic, but arguing
respectfully so as to allow speakers to complete all initiated thoughts would have to be
maintained as a paramount ideal toward the achievement of a caring community of exploration. I
made clear that arguments could be made but that such challenges to the ideas of others must be
justified with supporting evidence or perhaps could be explored with alternative viewpoints not
yet presented in our talk.
My next point of concern during the ground-rules lecture was a request for students to be
open to altering their opinions on firmly held beliefs. This, I insisted, would be difficult yet
essential if our Thinking Out Loud talks were to foster the idea of full participation and respect
for all ideas – even those in which a majority may initially disagree. I made clear that the
changing of one’s mind was not mandatory but that the consideration of other sides of an issue
must be made if true exploration and learning is to happen. To close, I indicated that if all
opinions on our topic became spoken and that if all information was shared in our circle, we
would be able to seek class agreement – a move not mandated but nonetheless useful for
providing natural closure to a dialogue. As this first ground-rules lecture ended, I closed with a
discussion goal that I would continue to offer before each ensuing talk: a request for students to
honor the rules put in place so as to help us have a deep, creative, and caring talk. I requested
that students try to follow these rules throughout the entire talk. With the prerequisite requests
and norms delivered, I started the audio recording, took my seat at our horseshoe’s opening, and
started the first observed dialogue by delivering our student-generated question to the class: Why
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don’t we pay more attention to lyrics in music? Due in part to the extended time spent discussing
the ground-rules coupled with my aspirations in having student-participants complete the
Learned portion and the Post-Dialogue Questions section of the accompanying K-W-L chart
following the talk, our first dialogue proved to be our shortest at 21 minutes exactly.
Initially, upon commencing Thinking Out Loud, five girls joined the discussion
indicating their secure social presence in interacting with whole-groups. Becca, Elizabeth, Kathy,
Shannon, and Jamie registered exploratory positions as an answer to why song lyrics are
potentially not as important to young listeners. Aside from the observation that these first
exploratory moves were spoken as personally-supported views instead of queries to the group,
the lack of acknowledgement toward the previous speaker’s ideas or utterances made me wonder
whether this talk would evolve past a selfish discussion of claims. By the time the first boy,
Calvin, joined in with an agreement statement, an interruption, and an argument rebuttal, I was
diligently thinking to myself how I might use my own questions to guide the talk toward
community exploration. Dialogue 1 began as follows:
Mr. Herr: Why don’t we pay more attention to lyrics in music?
Becca: I think it would be because of we just think of lyrics as a side-note, and the
lyrics in front are about sexual activities, and I don’t think that parents should let their
kids listen to lyrics like that until after marriage. Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Okay, so I think that we’re so into the beat of the music that we’re not even
worried about what the words sound like, so… Kathy.
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Kathy: It could be that sometimes there’s just songs that we listen to have a beat that
just makes us happy and stuff, but if you listen to it, it has a lot of bad words that we
shouldn’t listen to. Um… Shannon.
Shannon: Half the time when we’re listening to music, the words are warbled and we
can’t understand them, or they have the music playing louder than the words and the
words are just the background. It’s just hard to pay attention to them. Uh, Calvin.
Calvin: I agree with all of you. Basically what is happening is that the music is
getting better, and better, and better, but the lyrics are getting worse, and worse, and
worse and immoral. And basically they are thinking stuff and are thinking that kids
don’t need to be thinking about that. But they’re making this music with a really good
beat to disguise that so that people will not listen to what the song is actually saying.
Becca.
Becca: When we listen to music and don’t really know what the lyrics are and maybe
buy a song on iTunes or something, that gives them money, and when you learn the
song has bad lyrics in it, you don’t know that you just made them realize and made
them go so ‘people like it’ and they get the idea that people like it and they don’t
realize that sometimes people can’t hear the lyrics. Uh, Jamie.
Jamie: I don’t really agree with you, Calvin, because not all lyrics are bad and not all
of them get worse. Like you’re so into the beat that you’re saying the lyrics but you
don’t actually know what you’re saying. So, it’s like, you don’t really know it’s bad,
but you’re really just saying the lyrics.
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Calvin: Um, that’s basically what I’m saying, but not all the lyrics have to be bad. I’m
pretty sure you guys are familiar with the song, “Why You Gotta Be So Rude”? If
you look at the video, the dad actually has a point of ‘I’m not going to actually marry
my daughter. You live in a small-story house. You can’t even provide for yourself, so
why do you think you can provide for my daughter?’ He has a point; the dad has a
point.
Mr. Herr: If I may interject here – just for a moment, Calvin. You’ll have the floor
when I get finished. If I may interject, it seems that you and Jamie are talking about
lyrics of a song that you know. The question seems to be, ‘why don’t we pay attention
to lyrics?’ Would you like to answer that question a bit more, Calvin?
My procedural request to Calvin, intended to guide him toward delving more
introspectively into our topic, did not trigger a more exploratory interplay between participants.
If anything my attempt to better steer the dialogue toward inquiry was met by more of the same:
selfish claims and anecdotes about what constitutes “bad” lyrics, restated cumulative agreements,
and desires to engage for the sake of expressing self-promoted ideas – in disregard of positions
uttered by previous speakers. As the discussion continued, it became clear to me who our lead,
secure speakers were going to be and that they would have to be prompted, procedurally, by me
to relinquish control of the floor for the sake of allowing forth the ideas of our less-assertive
participants. Table 8 shows the ordered breakdown of moves by individual participants during
Dialogue 1. The order of student names indicates the position at which each joined our
discussion or passed at the chance to speak. Explorations expressed are identified with the
following codes: POS = statement of position, CR = clarification/restatement, ID = inference or
deduction, DQ = divergent question, and AQ = assessment question. Disputes uttered are coded
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as: RE = disregard for previous speaker’s thoughts, TS = topic shift, NR = non-reasoned
response, AR = argument initiation, RB = rebuttal, and CA = counter-argument.
Table 8
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 1: Non-Textually Generated Topic #1
Participant Explorations Disputes Agreements Passes
Becca POS/DQ TS/RE/AR/AR/RE/AR/RB 1 0
Elizabeth POS/CR/AQ RE/AR/RE/RB/NR/RB 2 0
Kathy POS RE/RE/AR/RE/NR/RE/AR 2 0
Shannon POS/ID/POS RE/RE/AR/RE/NR 1 0
Calvin CR RB/AR/RE/AR/CA/AR 3 0
Jamie POS/POS RE/AR/RE/AR/RE/TS 2 0
Ron RE 1 1
Piper POS RE/RE/AR/RE/TS 3 0
Javier POS RE/RE/AR 0 0
Mallory RE 1 0
Audrey RE/AR 1 0
Marcus RE/AR/AR 0 0
April RE/AR 1 0
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Kasey 0 1
Aaron C. RE/AR 0 0
Cindy 0 1
Trevor 0 1
Everett 0 1
14 speakers 14 56 18 5
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections – 8; Substantial interjections - 2
As is evident from the Participants column, 14 of 23 students engaged vocally in our talk – with
four others called upon but who refrained from joining. Also indicative of the control posed by
more dominant speakers during this talk was the total number of moves made by the engaged 14.
Only nine participants entered into the discussion with three or more moves, six of whom were
girls. For the most part, six initial lead-speakers (Becca, Elizabeth, Kathy, Shannon, Calvin, and
Jamie) with the addition of Piper contributed 69 of 88 total student-moves (78%).
As shown by the Explorations column in Table 8, eight of 14 moves were delivered as
statements of position (POS) that were either uttered in direct answer to the dialogue question or
that followed directly after a procedural or substantial prompt from me, the facilitator.
Exploratory questions, however, were rare during this talk. Only four of 14 exploratory moves
registered as questions (divergent questions = DQ and assessment questions = AQ), and two of
these questions were voiced to gain clarification or restatement (CR) from a previous speaker. In
total, only 16% of the 88 total moves were delivered as exploratory in this talk, and only two of
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those 14 exploratory moves were delivered by boys, Calvin and Javier. In fact, the only
indication of exchange that represented a series of exploratory moves back-to-back was initiated
by me, as facilitator, prompting Shannon to provide more depth to her reasoning:
Shannon: I’m going to go back to what Ronnie said about going in your ear and out
your mouth. Because I want to compare it to reading a book. Sometimes you get
caught up in it, and you’ll start reading and you’re not actually paying attention to the
words. We’ll just skim the words and then you’ll get to the bottom of the page and
realize that you didn’t learn anything.
Mr. Herr: So are you somewhat agreeing with what Javier said – that music is for
listening and that words are more for reading?
Shannon: Uh huh. But the problem is, we’ll just zone out when we hear it and
memorize it without even knowing it. And you’ll walk around singing the lyrics, not
even paying attention to everything else. So you don’t even notice that you’re
singing. So, that’s part of the problem – we don’t pay attention to the words because
we’re subconsciously memorizing it.
Mr. Herr: Huh. So you believe that it is a problem?
Shannon: Uh huh. Marcus.
Marcus: I going to have to disagree with you and Kathy because some kids, they
know what they’re saying, but they don’t care what it means. Other kids – they don’t
what they’re saying and they don’t know the meaning of the actual words. But some
kids do and they do it on purpose. Um, Audrey.
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Following this short, respectful exchange, Marcus joined in in disagreement, and the dialogue
continued toward its end, encompassed by interactions of arguments, rebuttals, and passes. My
own interjections (totaling 10) were comprised mainly of procedural requests (8) in the
promotion of involving more of our participants, guiding class-members on-topic, and restating
procedures for joining in respectfully. I did enter into the talk two times in substantial ways – by
which I posed more divergent questions to certain speakers in an attempt to trigger their
responses toward new ideas, positions, and ultimately, exploration.
Dispute, whether generated through vocal exchange or through a lack of
acknowledgement of previous speakers, came to identify Dialogue 1. Fifty-six of 88 total student
moves qualified as disputational (64%). Of those 56 disputational moves, 26 were conveyed
through a lack of respectful acknowledgement for the previous speaker (RE). Argument-
initiation (AR) accounted for 19 additional moves while rebuttals (RB), unreasoned responses
(NR), and topic shifts (TS) accounted for four, three, and three moves, respectfully. Our nine
most vocally active students (Becca, Elizabeth, Kathy, Shannon, Calvin, Jamie, Piper, Javier, and
Marcus) contributed 48 of 56 total moves of dispute (86%). The following exchange provides an
accurate summary of the consistent moves of dispute prevalent throughout this talk:
Mr. Herr: Elizabeth, try to get someone in who perhaps has not joined us.
Elizabeth: Cindy.
Cindy: Oh, I pass. Um, Trevor.
Trevor: Pass. Ronnie.
Ronnie: Um, pass. Javier.
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Javier: So, if you’re so interested in this, then why are we giving money to the
people that are making the lyrics that we don’t even remember? So, we should be
giving the money to the people who do the beat -- if that’s what we like about all the
music. Kathy.
Kathy: What I was going to say was that… I forgot. Uh, Everett.
Everett: Pass. Jamie.
Jamie: If you just like the beat, then just listen to an instrumental. Kathy.
Kathy: Okay, I remember. What I was going to say was that if you hear like a catchy
song, then you keep wanting to sing it, maybe if you stop and actually pay attention
to the lyrics, then you might hear like, on some radio stations they bleep out the
words. And so if you actually stop and listen and hear that, then you would wanna go
look up the lyrics, and you would see like how bad some of the songs you’re
listening to. But you wouldn’t recognize it because you were so caught up in the beat
and the music. Um, Marcus.
Marcus: But the thing is is that there are some kids who like, who think it’s cool to
say the bad things about the song or say bad words or basically use profanity and say
the inappropriate things, but there are also some kids who don’t know what it means,
but they’re mainly the kids who say the bad things. Um, Piper.
Piper: I think it’s like a chain. So we don’t listen to the music – like the lyrics, and
we say that this is a great song and we download it. But we don’t know the lyrics.
Then that makes the pop star that sings this say, ‘They like this, okay I’ll put out
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more like that.’ And people listen to more songs like that, and it’s a never-ending
pattern, and then kids that listen to that music and hear bad words and think it’s cool,
say it and sing it because they think that the pop star saying it is a great thing and
that it’s awesome and it’s cool to do because they’re popular and pop stars, and
they’re the best singers.
This exchanged happened near the end of our dialogue and new, different students were
initially called on to join in, but with their choices to pass, our more dominant speakers
obtained the floor again and resumed arguments over positions stated earlier in the talk.
Seemingly, our nine lead-speakers were more anxious to express personal claims and
arguments than they were toward exploration of the original question, or delivered positions,
with moves of inquiry.
Cumulatively, the moves of agreement delivered in Dialogue 1 were of special note.
Eighteen moves of 88 total (20%) related to agreement talk. This number of agreements
proved higher than any other observed dialogue during the four-month span of data
collection for this study. Interestingly enough, 15 of 18 vocal moves of agreement were
delivered by eight different lead-speakers. Of the nine participants identified as lead-
speakers, only Marcus did not express an agreement statement during this talk. Apparently,
while our discourse was centrally defined by argumentation and a lack of speaker-
acknowledgement, there did exist an inconsistent air of acknowledgement within moves that
seemed to indicate some participant-attention to previously delivered positions. While an
exchange among Shannon, Ron, and Piper highlighted a lack of initial acknowledgement of
the previous speaker, and further, while none of the speakers in this excerpt mentioned an
agreed-with student by name, their ideas became reiterated a second time by these speakers.
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Here, Shannon restated Jamie’s position about singing songs without thinking. Ron reiterated
Elizabeth’s original position about the power of the beat in music, and Piper agreed with
Elizabeth, Becca, and Jamie with an inference to the hypnotic qualities of songs:
Shannon: I’m kind of going back to what Calvin said in the beginning about how
music’s getting better instead of getting worse. Uh, it’s not necessarily true because
music is actually – we’ve gotten to a point where we’re using the same pattern, the
same melodies, and we just know the melody – or the chords – so well that we sing
those automatically, and we’ll just go with whatever lyrics we know. And you’ll sing
the lyrics and you’ll stop yourself and go, ‘Wait, what?’ And you just listen to them,
you pay attention, and when you don’t – just that. You don’t pay attention because
it’s the same. Uh, Ronnie.
Ronnie: I think that most songs are like supposed to go in one ear and out the mouth
because they listen to the beat and the lyrics and say what they hear, and it goes in
their ear and out their mouth. So, yeah… Piper.
Piper: Um, I think that we get so caught up in the world around us that when we listen
to music, we don’t really, truly listen to it. We just kind of zone it out. We listen to it,
yes, but we don’t realize that we’re either listening to something bad, something
good; we don’t know what we’re putting in our brains and that could be why.
This exchange emphasized a consistent materialization of how agreement statements were
issued throughout this talk. Through discourse analysis it seems that these reiterations were
made by secure speakers, oblivious to the realization that their positions had been delivered
to the class previously. Coupled with a lack of previous speaker acknowledgement, these
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moves of agreement could very well have been attributed to the coding-category of disputes.
Either the deliverers of these reiterations were unaware that the points they were making
were restatements, or they wanted to prove a point with the only positions that had surfaced
during such a dispute-heavy discussion.
In post-dialogue interviews, participants repeated that the emergence of restatements
were a major part of this talk’s dynamics. Lead-speakers and less-assertive speakers alike
summarized the discussion from the viewpoint of its cumulative properties. Cindy, a student
who passed during the talk, indicated:
People kind of like said the same thing over and over again -- how close to the beat
people pay attention.
Mallory, who contributed two moves to the discussion, echoed by saying:
Everyone agreed that we don’t listen to song lyrics because we’re too busy focusing
on the beat.
Jamie, a lead-speaker who contributed eight moves to the talk, also noticed a pattern to the
discussion:
They were kind of like saying you pay attention to the beat more than the words.
Everyone was agreeing with that.
Of the 23 participants present during Dialogue 1, only two identified the talk with the
highest rating on a Likert, post-dialogue survey. No students identified Dialogue 1’s question as
their most memorable of the 14 initiated in the four-month span of data collection. In
accordance, the 5-point, Likert survey indicated an average score of 3.0 to represent the question
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posed for Dialogue 1. Coding analysis data (as shown by Table 8), researcher observations,
interviewees’ responses, and post-talk survey data collected indicated that Dialogue 1 was
generally a disputational talk, identifiable by participant disregard for the thoughts of immediate,
previous speakers. Discussing ideas together was not a goal here, as only four total exploratory
questions were uttered. Everyone did not participate, nor was it the intention of those lead-
speakers to involve all the others. What this dialogue did in fact establish was the emergence of a
set of speakers who would prove vocally secure and lead our whole-class in and out of
exploratory inquiry in dialogue chances to come.
Class Dialogue 2 – September 11, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Text –
“The Heinz Dilemma (24:00).
Next, as an assessment of our whole-classes’ dynamics in thinking out loud, I chose
Lawrence Kohlberg’s (1958) seminal moral reasoning study-text, “The Heinz Dilemma”, for
read-aloud and discourse observation. The dilemma, a short one, prompts readers not only to
determine what he or she would do in Heinz’s predicament but to indicate why. Although
Kohlberg’s (1958) initial study served as an evaluation and analysis of moral constructs of
the human mind, my reasoning for choosing his dilemma-text was that it could function as a
trigger toward eliciting critical and creative engagement from this study’s participants. “The
Heinz Dilemma” reads as follows:
In Europe, a woman was near death from a special kind of cancer. There was one
drug that the doctors thought might save her. It was a form of radium that a druggist
in the same town had recently discovered. The drug was expensive to make, but the
druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost him to make. He paid $200 for the
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radium and charged $2,000 for a small dose of the drug. The sick woman's husband,
Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money and tried every legal means,
but he could only get together about $1,000, which is half of what it cost. He told the
druggist that his wife was dying, and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later.
But the druggist said, "No, I discovered the drug and I'm going to make money from
if." So, having tried every legal means, Heinz gets desperate and considers breaking
into the man's store to steal the drug for his wife.
For “The Heinz Dilemma,” following the in-class read-aloud, I stated to the group that
this situation had a fairly obvious essential question to be answered, but that I would allow for
them to pose questions for the board. Calling on all who wished to contribute a question for his
or her K-W-L chart, I listed 12 questions for voting on the large dry-erase board. Mallory
provided the recommended question that served as a companion prompt for many discussions of
this dilemma: Should Heinz steal the drug? Remarkably, this question got the third most votes in
our class tally. Winning the vote, with 14 of 25 raised hands, was a question that I thought would
still lead us toward an exploration of Heinz’s dilemma: What would you do in Heinz’s situation?
I was concerned that the “what” lead-in might prove difficult to elicit deeper, critical reasoning;
on the other hand, the major semantics could still spark exploratory talk. My desire to follow our
rules and to provide an autonomous outlet from which to launch our discussions outweighed my
intentions to choose the dialogue question for the class.
Upon establishing our main question for discussion in Dialogue 2, I reviewed the 12
exploratory ground-rules with the class. I gave special emphasis to the guidelines that I observed
were not demonstrated from the last dialogue. Discussing things together, I claimed, was not a
priority during Dialogue 1. I announced that the materialization of only four questions of inquiry
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showed that most speakers were not intent on exploring, and that most of our lead-speakers had
shown no intention of being open to new ideas. I then reiterated an addendum inserted in
Dialogue 1 regarding our policy of joining into a given talk: Students would not have to be called
upon by a previous speaker if they interrupted with a question. Interruptions would be tolerated if
the interrupting person did so with inquiry. This, I indicated, might allow for more students to
join in with the natural flow of conversation and thinking out loud.
I also informed the group that ground-rule 2 (Everybody participates.) was not adhered to
since only 14 of 23 students joined into the discourse. I reiterated that the quest to invite more
voices into our talk would increase our chances to explore and would also help to create a more
caring classroom community. I pointed out that nine students did the majority of the talking last
discussion and that this occurrence seemed to lead to greater disputes since the talk stayed
centralized amongst a select few.
Dialogue 2 lasted only three-minutes longer that did Dialogue 1. At exactly 24 minutes,
this talk registered in as the second shortest dialogue of the observed 14 talks. Initially of interest
in Dialogue 2 was the overall inclusion of 22 vocal participants. In contrast to the previous
discourse (14 of 23 participants), the outcome of Dialogue 2 indicated a more steady frequency
of non-dominate speakers. Only one student (Aaron W.) passed on speaking altogether, while
two others (Maria and Everett) were not called on to join the talk. This increase in participant-
representation was created in part by the facilitation sequence in which I employed during
Dialogue 2. Since our main question prompted students to inform the group “what” each would
do in Heinz’s situation, I made it an intention to procedurally interject when students who had
offered an explanation previously attempted to join in multiple turns before those who had
spoken once. In this discussion I found myself interrupting our lead-speakers more, prompting
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them to invite in other, less-dominate speakers. My strategy here was to elicit a greater variance
of voices into our talk. The fact that 22 of 25 total participants provided at least one move to this
discourse seemed to point to a certain success in my interjection initiative.
My procedural interruptions coupled with my pre-dialogue suggestion for our lead-
speakers to involve a greater number of others did in fact initiate a more judicial start to
Dialogue 2. Judging from the excerpt that follows, dominate speakers Calvin and Elizabeth did
take initial chances to bring in students who were less involved during our first talk:
Mr. Herr: What would you do in Heinz’s situation? I’ll call on the first person, but
after that, I generally don’t call very much. Go ahead, Calvin.
Calvin: I would steal the drug, go to trial, and then, this is what is right to do, so I
could save my wife’s life – I would take whatever punishment you give to me
because it worsted saving my wife, so, you know what, give me whatever you want.
I’m just letting you know – you charge way over what it cost to make –
Mr. Herr: Calvin, I’m sorry to have to pause you, but let’s try to stay with our topic
for a little bit. If you wouldn’t mind calling on the next person.
Calvin: Yeah, sure. April.
April: Why me? Pass. Um, Ana.
Ana: I would just take the drug and leave… yeah. William.
William: All I want to say is life is more important than money, so I would want to
steal the drug to save my wife’s life, and if the druggist doesn’t want me to pay a little
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or something or let me have it for free, I would still take it because it’s more
important to care about your wife. Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Okay, I have to disagree with you all just a little bit. What I would do in
the beginning – I would try to figure out where he bought the $200 drug from. So, if
you contact them, and they don’t have it – I’m sure they would – I mean where else
would they get it? I mean I’m sure they would make some more or they could tell you
where they got it from to sell it for $200, and then, if your couldn’t get it for no
matter how hard you tried, you could find that place, you could find out where they
made it or how they got it. Then I would steal the drug for my wife – or husband.
(Light laughter). Trevor.
Trevor: Um, well, if I was in that situation, I would just persuade the druggist to
maybe not sell it for $1,000 – or persuade him to lower it. Kathy.
While this exchange showed a consistent trend toward lack of acknowledgements toward
previous speakers and a greater desire for participants to shift our topic, it did indicate more of a
progression toward care – dominant speakers trying to involve those less-assertive speakers early
on in the conversation. This was a less visible occurrence throughout the previous discourse.
On the whole, Dialogue 2 could also be characterized as disputational more than
exploratory or cumulative. Sixty-four of 96 total student moves were evaluated and registered as
a move of dispute (67%). Twenty-seven of those 96 moves could be attributed to explorations
(28%), while only five total moves were delivered in agreement (5%). Table 9 indicates the order
of participants into the talk their individual moves of exploration, dispute, and agreement.
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Abstaining passes from vocalizing during Dialogue 2 are also represented here. An additional
Exploration coded within Table 9 was RR, request for reasons.
Table 9
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 2: Moral Dilemma Text - “The Heinz Dilemma”
Participant Explorations Disputes Agreements Passes
Calvin POS TS/RE/AR/NR/RE/AR/CA/AR/NR 0 0
April RR 0 1
Audrey POS RE 1 0
Ana RE/NR/RE 1 0
William POS RE/RE 1 0
Elizabeth CR/CR/POS TS/NR/AR/RB/RE/TS/AR/RE/AR 0 0
Aaron W. 0 1
Trevor POS RE 0 0
Mallory ID/POS 0 0
Kathy POS/POS RE/RE 1 0
Marcus POS AR/NR 0 0
Ron RE/TS/RE/TS/RE/AR 0 0
Tripp POS RE/NR 0 0
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Aaron C. POS/POS/POS RE/RE 0 0
Cindy POS RE/RE/AR 0 0
Javier POS RE/AR/RE/AR 0 0
Piper RE/NR/RB 0 0
Jamie POS/DQ/DQ RE/RE/AR/RE 0 0
Kasey POS RE 0 0
Shannon CR RE/AR/RB/RE/AR 0 0
Becca POS RE/RE/AR 1 0
Michelle POS RE 0 0
Niles POS RB 0 0
22 speakers 27 64 5 2
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections - 11; Substantial interjections - 9
As shown by Table 9, Explorations into what participants would do in Heinz’s situation
consisted largely of delivering positions on the topic. Exploratory positions (POS) in Dialogue 2
accounted for 20 of 27 moves (74%). Exploratory questions (RR, CR, and DQ) only contributed
to six of 27 moves (22%). The only other move attributed to exploratory talk was Mallory’s
induction/deduction (ID) verbalization. While exploration of our question was spread out over 19
of 22 participants, the act of stating a position dominated this area. Position stating, while an act
of vocalizing one’s ideas, is considered a part of exploration, positions did not aid in approaching
a more caring establishment of exploration. Inquiry, when not delivered in argumentation, had
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the distinctness to hold exploration through multiple back-and-forth moves between students.
Position stating begins and ends with the self. The upcoming transcript excerpt showed a
progression of exploration consistent in Dialogue 2. In this sense, while position-giving students
vocalized their own newly constructed thoughts, those were simply presented for the group to
hear. Exploration to involve the thoughts of others was not elicited by these positions:
Mr. Herr: Javier, did you already say what you would do in Heinz’s situation?
Javier: I would steal it.
Mr. Herr: And what was your reason?
Javier: Because life is more important than money. Like Calvin said, other people
have broken the law, but it’s the right thing to do. Like breaking the law is sometimes
right; sometimes the law is unfair in other places than here.
Mr. Herr: Thank you for sharing that.
Marcus: I would have to agree with Javier. There are some pros and cons to this
situation. I think that life is more important, but there is a con to that. Say the drug
does not work, then you’d be spending your life in jail. I mean there’s pros and cons
to this situation. We just need to dig a little deeper into it to figure it out. Um, Audrey.
Audrey: I agree with Mallory. I wouldn’t steal the drug because it might not work.
Because the doctor said ‘it might save her.’ I’m not sure.
Mr. Herr: Wouldn’t you want to take a chance to save a loved one?
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Audrey: Yes, but if you’re going to go to jail for stealing it, and it might not work, I
would rather make her life as comfortable as it would be since the drug that you get
might not work. Jamie.
Jamie: I have something – would you want to live with the fact that one of your loved
ones had died because you didn’t take the chance of trying to save her? Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: I have to disagree with you, Javier, because you could get the radium and
you could take it somewhere else so it could get made anywhere else. So this is the
last thing I want to say: So what I would do in this situation is I would look around,
get the radium from someone else who could actually make it into a drug and then I
would take it back to my husband slash wife and see if it works and if it didn’t work,
then – and if I couldn’t get it – I would probably steal the drug then. So I’m pretty
much in the middle.
While the position statements delivered by Javier and Marcus flowed with an air of natural
conversation, those provided by Audrey and Elizabeth represented a self-interested delivery of
beliefs on topic.
In relationship to the disputational majority of moves spoken in Dialogue 2, the previous
excerpt provided examples of the personally-focused disregard for previous speakers (RE) that
consistently identified the disputes present in Dialogue 1. While Javier and Marcus built their
respective position statements off previous ideas, Audrey, Jamie, and Elizabeth each followed
with a disrespectful neglect in the identification of previous speakers’ thoughts. This example of
lack of acknowledgement (RE) permeated Dialogue 2 with 31 of 64 moves (48%). While such
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moves did not occur with the frequency as they did in Dialogue 1, near 50% of the moves in
Dialogue 2 were still initiated out of disrespect for the previous speaker’s thoughts.
As previously mentioned and as present in Table 9, Disputes contributed to 67% of the
grand total of 96 moves. Beyond the moves of disregard, argumentation (AR) attributed to 19 of
64 utterances (30%). Pockets of started arguments materialized throughout the talk at various
intervals. Aside from Cindy and Ron, 17 of the 19 arguments were initiated by those secure
speakers, identified from Dialogue 1 (Calvin, Elizabeth, Marcus, Javier, Jamie, Shannon, and
Becca). Each of these dominate speakers contributed more disputational moves than exploratory
to Dialogue 2, and this advent seemed to indicate that those who joined most in this class did so
in attempt to get points across and to win arguments. An example of such a pursuit to argue can
be realized in the following sequence:
Mr. Herr: Why is stealing okay?
Jamie: I would steal the drug, and there’s no saying that stealing’s okay, but in a
situation where a family member was dying, would you rather live knowing that you
could have saved them, living in anguish the rest of your life, or would you rather be
in jail knowing that you did everything you could? Um, Kasey.
Kasey: What I would do is not try and steal it, or I would not try and buy it. I would
just try to make the person who is dying – their life as comfortable as possible.
Shannon.
Shannon: Good, my hand is going numb. Elizabeth, I disagree with you.
Elizabeth: Ahh.
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Shannon: Because he discovered the drug; he can’t buy it from somewhere else. And
if he did sell it to someone else, they would charge even more than $2,000 because
they would have to make money off that too.
Mr. Herr: Make sure that if you’re just disagreeing with somebody that you’re
disagreeing about the topic question: ‘What would you do in Heinz’s situation?’ is
our question.
Calvin: Calvin here. And I would like to disagree with Piper. Why would you give
back the money when you could leave the money where the drug is? Or when you’re
in court you could say, ‘he paid $200 to make the drug. I gave him five times that
much.’ Shouldn’t that count at least? And I could pay him back later. Shouldn’t that
count for something?
Piper: This is Piper. I have to disagree on that because it’s their money and they gave
it to you and your family member was about to die. If your family member was about
to die, and you were going to care enough to give the money. But if you’re not going
to use it for anything, then why would you keep it for yourself? It’s kind of like being
really selfish about the topic.
Calvin: Hey, Calvin here. I’m not saying that I’m keeping the money. I’m saying I’m
giving it to the druggist. And I’m giving to him to pay for it – not to keep it, to pay
for it in a way as in ‘hey, I didn’t pay enough but I still gave you half – which is still
more than you paid for it.’
Bearing in mind that the initial question in the sequence prior was a substantial one raised from
me, only Jamie took a chance to answer it. Furthermore, and perhaps more indicative of blatant
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moves of disregard for the comments of previous speakers, once Jamie posed her divergent
question (one of only four total questions), the inquiry she attempted to engage was disregarded
to the extent that not one of the upcoming speakers in the sequence made even the remotest
move to return to it. While on-topic, Kasey seemed to be responding to the original question – as
if she had been waiting anxiously to speak, and once she finally got her chance, she simply
uttered forth the idea she had been constructing since the beginning. Shannon, likewise, was
speaking in hopes of returning back to a previous idea to argue it. Calvin wanted also to initiate
an argument with Piper, who last joined in before my question at the beginning of the sequence.
Seemingly, small battles were initiated ever so slightly on the topic of what should be done in a
case like Heinz’s. Inquiry and exploration were all but shut-down aside from slight, sporadic
moves of position that were delivered by way of procedural pleas from me to the group.
Thinking out loud during Dialogue 2 was expressed more out of self-interest.
Moves of agreement were thusly absent more so in Dialogue 2 than in Dialogue 1. When
delivered, utterances of agreement were done so at the beginning or end of participant moves of
position or argumentation. Four of the five agreement moves materialized as attachments to
longer speeches. Only Ana spoke distinctly to agree with Michelle at one point during the talk:
Ana: Wait, I would like to agree with Michelle that the drug might not work, so just
try to make their life comfortable.
Ana initially made this move without regard for the speaker before her, and seemed to identify
Michelle as the originator of the idea even though Kasey had first uttered the thought about
helping the dying to achieve comfort.
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As facilitator trying to model our progression through and adherence to our 12 ground-
rules, I posed a procedural question to find out if the class, after 20 students had engaged, could
come to an agreement about what they would do in Heinz’s situation. It was more of an
opportunity to reset the talk, knowing that many moves of dispute indicated a solid division in
the classroom. Also, I posed the agreement-check question to reflect Kohlberg’s original inquiry
in order to see if a slight alteration of our question’s syntax might elicit more in the way of
exploration. My change seemed to trigger more position statements than before (as a prior
excerpt sequence noted), yet only a couple of minutes after the agreement-check I had to end the
talk due to time constraints. My procedural check for agreement went as follows:
Mr. Herr: Thank you. I would like to do an agreement check in the room. So, raise
your hand if you believe Heinz should steal the drug. Hands down, now – about 15 of
you. Raise your hand now if you believe Heinz should not steal the drug.
Elizabeth: Is there other?
Mr. Herr: Okay, about eight. Raise your hand if you feel somewhere in between those
two. Alright, thank you for your hands. (About three hands for ‘other’) I did that to
check to see if how we’re hitting on any sort of agreements. We still have groups of
people who feel differently about this, so, who was our last speaker? You, Becca?
Please feel free to call on the next.
In summary, respect for ideas was generally neglected for the sake of laying claims for
argumentation and/or rebuttal. Dominate speakers seemed intent on trying to debate while those
less secure with joining in became even less apt to engage. Because of the barrage of
argumentative volleys and a disregard for inquiry and ideas, members hoping to explore seemed
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to find it disheartening to try. Not one less-assertive speaker joined in Dialogue 2 on more than
two occasions. However, as indicated by a post-dialogue survey, Dialogue 2 averaged a 3.7 on a
5-point Likert scale summoning participants to designate how memorable it was. In contrast,
Dialogue 1 received a Likert mean of 3.0. When interviewed after the talk, perhaps Elizabeth
summed up the classes’ perception when asked about the most interesting part of the dialogue to
her:
Arguing, I guess.
Class Dialogue 3 – September 19, 2014, Traditional/Classical Fiction – “The
Necklace” (28:30).
Our next whole-class talk stemmed from a central question related to Guy de
Maupassant’s translated short story, “The Necklace” (2011). This story is recommended for
study by seventh-graders at CKA; it is included within the canon of the Core Knowledge
curriculum. It is the tale of a pretty, young newlywed who is unhappy with her social position in
life. Growing up, her experiences led her to believe that she would later live a life in the upper
class of Parisian society. However, her eventual marriage to a clerk of the middle class brought
her to the realization that she is stuck where she is in society. Mathilde’s depression does not
brighten any when, one evening, her husband brings home from work an exclusive invitation to a
party thrown by the Minister of Education. She claims she has nothing impressive enough to
wear around such wealthy and important people who will be in attendance at the party.
Mathilde’s husband, intent on making her happy, permits her to use savings of his own for the
purchase of a rightful gown, fit for the event. Still, only days before the party, Mathilde is moody
again; she is distraught by the fact that she has no jewel to wear around her neck for the party.
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She is concerned that she will look poor around other women of the upper class. Prompted by her
husband, Mathilde pursues the idea of visiting her old friend, Mdm. Forestier, married into
wealth and the procurer of many jeweled accessories. Finding the perfect diamond necklace at
Forestier’s, Mathilde is happy and confident as she attends the party; she is the hit of the evening
– dancing with many important men until 4:00 am while her husband sleeps waiting in the foyer
of the party hall. Finally home from the party and reliving her evening of glory in her mind, in
her mirror, Mathilde comes to the sudden awareness that the borrowed diamond necklace is
missing from her neck. In panic, Mathilde sends her husband out into the night to retrace their
steps, but returning without success in finding it, he fashions a plan to stall the return of the jewel
to Mathilde’s friend. For a week following the ordeal, the husband borrows inheritance, makes
promises to friends, and deals with suspicious lenders all to purchase an identical necklace
valued at 36,000 francs. Once procuring the new, replacement necklace, Mathilde “returns” it to
her friend, sorry for any inconvenience. The story’s falling action details in summation the
hardships the couple endures for the ten years’ time it takes in paying back their enormous debt.
Mathilde, during this time of hardship is described as having become a hard, calloused, and burly
woman, used to the chores befallen upon women who are without social class. One day, out for a
stroll, her debts paid in full, Mathilde comes upon her friend, Mdm. Forestier. Forestier does not
recognize Mathilde at first and inquires as to what had become of her friend all these years.
Mathilde, content with the paying of the debt, explains the truth to Forestier upon which her
friend reveals to Mathilde that the borrowed jewel was merely fake. Here, the reader for the first
time, realizes that Mathilde and her husband spent much time, effort, and money over a missing
piece of costume jewelry, and that Mathilde wasted precious years of her life toiling to pay a
debt that did not necessitate such effort.
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Following our read-aloud and the initial portion of the K-W-L chart, students submitted
questions to me for inclusion on the dry-erase board. Once again, as with Dialogue 2, a
seemingly more obvious question such as: “Could the situation with the missing necklace have
been handled differently?” was provided but not widely accepted by the class. Shannon’s query:
“Why did Mathilde marry a clerk if she was unhappy with her social position in life?” received
15 of 25 participant votes and became our main question of discussion. I had doubts that this
question would prompt participants to delve into issues associated with the essential theme of the
story, yet since this question began with a word necessary for critical engagement (Why), I made
no attempt to question its validity. Also, since part of my role of being a facilitator to these talks
was to allow for autonomous opportunities to exist within a Community of Inquiry setting,
student queries, even when they seemingly bent away from my initial intentions, were accepted
and explored.
The reiteration of our 12 ground-rules was reviewed more quickly this time. However, I
did spend more time on rules 4 and 5: the two norms that prompt respect for ideas. I indicated
that during the last dialogue, interruptions were more frequent and that speakers with “the floor”
should have a chance to finish his or her thought completely before another joins in to speak. I
pointed out that a speaker’s acknowledgement of the person’s thoughts who came immediately
before were essential to the promotion of care into our dialogues. Also, in close relationship to
this issue, I pointed out that as of late, several of our speakers were joining in to rebut against a
point that was made some time back into the talk. Realizing that students may not be called on
immediately upon raising a hand, I suggested that they continue listening intently, especially to
the speaker of the moment so that once called upon, they are not speaking in total disregard to
the person before. I insisted that all participant’s thoughts are important to our discussion, and
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that an individual’s pressing thoughts should definitely be delivered but perhaps after they have
at least acknowledged an opinion about the person’s ideas who spoke before them.
With the norms reviewed, Dialogue 3 got off to an inauspicious start. Dominate speakers
immediately took to argumentation, shifting away from the main question. It was several minutes
into the discussion before a less-secure speaker (Everett) was called upon to join. Yet, as shown
by Everett in the previous two talks, he passed, and lead-speaker argumentation continued to
skirt the topic for several more minutes.
Whether it was an obtuseness of syntax attributed to our main question or the fact that
this dialogue had to be enacted several days after the in-class read-aloud, or a combination of
both, the lowest number of student moves for any of our 14 observed dialogues was recorded
here. Seventy-three student moves were delivered over the course of 28 minutes, 30 seconds –
our most time consuming dialogue of the first three. Like the two talks prior, Dialogue 3
revolved heavily around disputational moves as opposed to exploratory or cumulative
expressions. Forty-six of 73 moves (63%) were uttered in dispute, 23 of 73 in exploration (32%),
and only four of 73 in agreement (5%). A total of 16 of 25 students present joined in vocally, yet
only seven different students contributed more than three moves to this discourse. Five students
were asked to join but did not, leaving four others who were not called upon or who chose not to
join of their own accord. Table 10 displays the discourse coding breakdown of speakers and their
moves made in Dialogue 3.
Table 10
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 3: Classical Fiction - “The Necklace”
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Participant Explorations Disputes Agreements Passes
Calvin POS AR/AR/RE/NR/NR/RE/AR/AR/AR 1 0
Aaron C. POS/POS/POS AR/RE/AR/AR/RB 1 0
Shannon POS/ID RE/AR/NR/RE 0 0
Javier POS RB 0 0
Marcus POS AR/AR/RE/NR 0 0
Everett 0 2
Becca POS/DQ RE/RE/AR/RE/RE/TS/AR 0 0
Kathy RR AR/NR 1 0
Cindy 0 1
Jamie AR 0 0
Piper POS/AQ RE/RB/RB 0 0
Kasey POS 0 1
Elizabeth rr 0 1
Tripp rr 0 1
William POS/DQ/DQ/DQ AR/AR/RE/RE/RE 0 0
Maria RE/AR 0 0
Aaron W. ID RE 0 0
Mallory POS AR 1 0
Audrey POS RE 0 0
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Michelle 0 1
16 speakers 23 46 4 7
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections - 12; Substantial interjections - 4
At a mere glance of Table 10, there appears to exist an even spread of contributors. While
15 of the 20 participants’ names on the list supplied a move of exploration, a concentration of
moves still subsists in the upper area of the table. This seems indicative that confident, dominate
speakers (as evident in Dialogues 1 and 2) controlled the pace and structure of Dialogue 3 as
well. Perhaps misleading were three exploratory moves from participants who did not join on-
topic. At different points in the dialogue, Kathy, Elizabeth, and Tripp passed on a chance to
speak but, in turn, called on a student who had not been asked previously to speak. To me, as
researcher, the act of passing and then immediately calling on a student not yet participatory
specified a request for reasoning (rr). Not quite qualifying as an inquiry request, passing a turn to
allow for a non-participant to join still seemed exploratory – in a sense, ground-rule 2
(Everybody participates.) was being aided along. Since moves requesting another’s reasons are
deemed to be exploratory, these non-moves on-topic still registered in the Explorations column.
In the upcoming excerpt, Elizabeth and Tripp each pass but then “request reasons” (rr) from a
less-assertive speaker or a non-participant in their turns to choose the next talker:
Marcus: I agree with Piper and Kathy. I think she didn’t want it bad enough, so she
didn’t take the action like probably Mdm. Forestier. Like they said – she daydreamed;
she never actually took the action to what it’s like to be needed. Um, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Pass. Tripp.
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Tripp: Pass. William.
William: Well, I think she tried to marry an upper class person, and she did. This
Loisel or whatever became fired or demoted. Um, Calvin.
Explorations during this dialogue, while limited to 23 of 73 moves, did increase slightly
from the two previous talks to 32%. Most moves of exploration once again were delivered as
position statements in answer to why the character of Mathilde, in her perpetual unhappiness,
married a clerk. Of the 23 exploratory moves, 13 position statements were uttered (57%). The
number of inquiries made was scant at five moves, and the percentage of questions delivered was
22%. At its most exploratory, Dialogue 3 featured a back-and-forth, on-topic quest by speakers
of confidence to answer the main question. The following sequence showed how exploration, at
its best here, was exhibited:
Mr. Herr: Thank you, Kathy, and are you wanting to answer William’s question?
Kathy: Well, kind of. Um, I think that if she didn’t like what her husband did, since I
don’t think she wouldn’t have gotten a job because she – I don’t know. Mallory.
Mallory: Okay, William, to answer your question. Why couldn’t she just get a job
because she was unhappy with how much money her husband made? I don’t think
because in those days women didn’t really get high, important jobs. Like you didn’t
really see a lot of women in government and politics, so I don’t think she could have
gotten a very important high paying job. She could have gotten jobs like, I don’t
know, doing laundry or cooking or sewing things, but she couldn’t have gotten a
higher-up job. So, um, Javier.
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Javier: I would agree with you because they were still in like the middle class and
they couldn’t just get a high class job because of what class they are. So she couldn’t
just go get a job that would make a lot of money. She would have to be in a specific
class to get that type of job. But she was a middle class like sort of all clerks. Kasey.
Kasey: I also would have to agree with you because back then women really weren’t
allowed to get good jobs. They could probably be dress-makers and that was about
the highest thing you could be. Um, Aaron.
Aaron: Okay, Aaron C. I’m agreeing with you because – but there is very little jobs
women could have had back then, and (I know, I know – I’m just saying the same
thing) and in the middle class you probably had very, very, very little chance of – I’m
talking about men – to get a high class job. It’s like if you were a minor clerk, you’re
probably not going to end up being the principal – I don’t know – like that’s an
example. But –
Mr. Herr: Aaron, try real hard when you join in again to offer something new.
Here, the students involved remained on-topic for five moves. Albeit brief and the only example
of such a sequence delivered in Dialogue 3, the excerpt exemplified how conversation can be
sustained by participants in pursuit of respectful exploration. Although this selection showed
moves of agreement interspersed by Kasey and Aaron within the thoughts of exploration, the aim
of participants in this sequence was to understand the views of others. The succession occurred
roughly two-thirds of the way through this 28 minute talk. Before and after, argumentation and
continued disregard for prior speakers was the standard.
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As indicated by Table 10, Disputes were not simply centralized amongst a few speakers
during Dialogue 3. Fifteen of 16 participants offered at least one move in dispute. More
specifically, 10 different students delivered two or more disputational utterances. Also during
this dialogue, the percentage of moves indicating a lack of previous-speaker acknowledgement
(RE) were down to 37%. The two dialogues prior established such speaker-disregard at 46% and
48% of all dispute moves, respectively. In accordance to evidence that lack of acknowledgement
moves were fewer, utterances exemplifying argumentation in Dialogue 3 rose to 39%, as 18 of
46 moves registered as arguments. Of the nine students who initiated argumentation during the
talk, eight had previously been identified as secure or dominant speakers from other dialogues.
Only Maria instigated argumentation as a non-dominant speaker.
Narrative sequences that exhibited argumentation combined with rebuttal moves totaled
22 of 46 disputational moves (48%) – up from the totals identified from the previous two talks.
Dialogue 3, more than the other two talks analyzed, was exemplified by argumentation and
showed consistent shifts away from our main question topic. As made evident in the following
selection, the dominant-participants’ will to win arguments (even those that drift off-topic) was
stronger than a will to offer consistent inquiry or positions on-topic:
Aaron: I think you make a good point, but I think she was forced to marry the clerk
because practically, this was like the 1800s, and back then the parents would like plan
a marriage.
Calvin: It was the turn of the century.
Many: Shh.
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Aaron: For wealth or whatever. But since she’s beautiful, I think she would be able to
get a rich person if she had a choice.
Calvin: I have to disagree with that because in the story it said that she looked for
someone famous. But at that time it didn’t happen all that much in a different area
like Asia; I’m not quite sure. But it wasn’t in that very area that it happened all that
much.
Mr. Herr: Calvin, please call on the next person.
Calvin: Shannon.
Shannon: Um, if you think about it, the story really doesn’t say that she is unhappy
about marrying the husband. She’s not happy with her husband and her place in
society, but she’s never showing any extreme disrespect or hate toward her husband.
Mr. Herr: Shannon, did you vote for this question?
Shannon: No.
Mr. Herr: Okay. You may call on the next.
Shannon: Javier.
Javier: I disagree with that because when he came home and gave her the envelope,
she started being rude and telling him what will she wear and that’s really
disrespectful because the husband worked really hard to get that envelope. That’s
proof that she was disrespectful to her husband. Marcus.
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Marcus: I agree with Javier because she used to daydream about other guys and how
she could become rich, and she wasn’t happy with her husband or the place in society
where she was. But I disagree with you, Shannon because she wasn’t also happy with
her husband either. Um, Everett.
Everett: Pass. Aaron.
Aaron: Okay, in the first paragraph it doesn’t say anything about looking for a
prosperous and famous husband, and then it says he was a minor clerk in the Ministry
of Education. So she was daydreaming about marrying a rich and famous person. She
never really looked for one.
Mr. Herr: I appreciate you looking into the text for your answer, Aaron. Thank you.
Aaron: Becca.
Becca: I think that I don’t think she was really happy with her husband because if she
was actually open minded about the banquet, she would actually see that how nice he
was to get her that envelop and get her invited to it ‘cause he could just let somebody
else have the envelop instead of him actually having an invitation to go to a banquet
that she had always dreamed about. But she has to go and say, ‘Well, I don’t have
anything to wear. What am I going to wear?’ She had to be rude about it and didn’t
understand how blessed she was with all of the things she had. She had food; she had
water; she had a home. And she has to go nag on her husband because she doesn’t
have any clothes or jewelry. Um, Kathy.
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Kathy: I would have to disagree with that because to me that’s an opinion, but at the
same time, I guess I am disagreeing and agreeing with you because she’s not really
grateful, but yet again, these are opinions, so… Cindy.
As can be determined from this last sequence, students who delivered moves in argumentation
and rebuttal seemed to be drifting away from answering the main question. As facilitator, most
of my interjections were made as procedural deliveries to keep the talk moving on-topic. By a
ratio of three-to-one (12 procedural to 4 substantial moves), I joined in. Such a difference gap in
facilitator talk seems to demonstrate my focus on keeping the dialogue civil, on-topic, or on-
pace.
Also as shown, most participants during the last excerpt (aside from Aaron C. and Becca)
answered another question: Why didn’t Mathilde get along with her husband? This may have
been due to misunderstanding the context intended by the main question or a desire to make
points regardless of its context. In a post-dialogue interview, perhaps Piper and Marcus exhibited
this confusion best with an “answer” to the question – What are your thoughts about why
Mathilde married a clerk if she despised the middle class?:
Piper: People said there was stuff where she treated him badly and that’s why she
didn’t love him. So, um, she didn’t treat him badly because she didn’t love him; it was
because it was her own fault that she treated people badly because of how she felt
about herself.
Marcus: Mathilde just daydreamed her life away; she never actually tried to do
anything about it. And she never tried like Mdm. Forestier – tried hard enough. She
didn’t want it bad enough. She would daydream her life away.
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Through these off-topic responses, the disputational excerpt prior, and the low overall count of
spoken moves, there is strong indication that entering, vocal participants were confused by the
contextual meaning of the main question. This evidence begs the question: How did our winning
question get the majority of the class votes if it was difficult to understand? The participants
perhaps wondered the same as indicated by the Likert mean taken from a post-dialogue survey.
When surveyed about the quality of the question prompting Dialogue 3, students collectively
established a mean score of 2.8 of 5.0 – the lowest mean established from our first three
dialogues of Thinking Out Loud.
Class Dialogue 4 – September 29, 2014: Factual Narrative – “Shooting an Elephant”
(26:56).
Our fourth interaction emerged following a read-aloud of George Orwell’s famous first-
person account of his times as a member of the Indian Imperial Police in Lower Burma,
“Shooting an Elephant” (2011). Orwell’s job, as detailed in the rising action, was to respond to
the death of a local man who was killed by an elephant that was in a frenzied state of must.
Orwell felt the collective will of a large crowd of townspeople urging him to shoot the elephant,
but, knowing that the elephant was probably no longer dangerous, had no intentions of shooting
the creature. Despite Orwell’s distaste for shooting the elephant, he suddenly became aware that
he would lose face and become humiliated if he did not shoot it. Orwell shot the elephant, but the
barrage of shots fired only seemed to deeply wound the creature. Finally, Orwell, unable to
completely kill the elephant and unable to watch and listen to its final sufferings, went away. At
the last, Orwell admitted to the reader that he was relieved that a local Burman was trampled
because it gave him a pretext for shooting the elephant. Fellow officers insisted that he did the
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right thing; natives believed that he saved face. Orwell, however, concluded that he shot the
elephant solely to avoid looking like a fool.
Once student-questions were submitted to the board, it became apparent that an obvious
moral-reasoning query had been included by Javier into the grouping: Did George do the right
thing? Personally, this question was my favorite as I thought it would engage participants into a
depth of thinking out loud not yet witnessed in previous talks. Such prompts that dictate
responders toward choosing a side and then allow for extending their opinions through reasoning
seem ideal for laying the foundation for exploratory talk. Yet in holding with my frame toward
constructing an autonomous setting, I chose not to promote this question above the others. As
was the case, two of eleven questions listed made it to a run-off vote. The question, “Why didn’t
he do something about people being mean to him?” received six run-off votes in comparison to
the 17 votes obtained by the winning query: “Was not being humiliated worth the death of a
living creature?”
Following the vote, the focus of my ground-rules review was to highlight the lack of
participation absent in Dialogue 3. I continued to suggest that participation to me was more than
simply listening intently; it also involved engaging vocally in such a way as to explore a question
in greater depth. I insisted that those who were shy about talking might actually be waiting to be
called upon, desiring a request for their opinions. Even then, I noted, if those less-assertive
speakers did not wish to talk, they could always pass to another who might be willing to take the
floor. This scrutiny of ground-rule 2 (Everyone participates.) may have served as a reminder to
some during the talk since 19 of 25 students participated vocally – three more than did during
Dialogue 3. One participant, Kasey, raised her hand to be acknowledged just so she could call on
somebody who had not yet spoken.
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While it was heartening to observe more vocal participants involved during Dialogue 4, it
was equally discouraging to note the goals of a majority of our speakers: dispute. Participation,
although spread out more from dominant to non-dominant speakers (as indicated by evidence of
a greater number who registered a vocal move), became centralized, especially in dispute among
nine dominant-talkers. These lead-speakers, more than during any other dialogue prior, took
chances to interrupt each other to argue supposed points. Also here, more than during other
observed talks, students were keen on venturing off-topic if there was an argument in which to
enter. It seemed that within Dialogue 4, slight shifts off-topic navigated the entire talk onto
different pathways altogether – away from any hopeful exploration of the original question.
Participants here were vocally willing to disregard the comments of others with ridicule: a
brashness not yet witnessed in previous talks. Secure-speakers Kathy and Jamie even went so far
as to engage in a side, whispering conversation in admonishment of certain comments in which
they disagreed. Of the 93 total student moves recorded during Dialogue 4, sixty of those were
delivered in dispute (65%). While consistent in percentage with the disputational evidence from
the other talks, this dialogue was made identifiable through strong argumentation, as 71% of all
disputational talk surfaced in the form of arguments, rebuttals, and counter-arguments.
Explorations were made meagerly and attributed to 23 of the 93 total moves (25%). Consistent
with exploratory moves witnessed in previous dialogues, most Explorations (14 of 23) came in
the form of position statements (61%). Questions of inquiry attributed to only 17% of
Explorations. Table 11 presents the discourse coding indicator for the Dialogue 4.
Table 11
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Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 4 – “Shooting an Elephant”
Participant Explorations Disputes Agreements Passes
Becca ID TS/RB/AR/AR/AR/RB 2 0
Niles POS RE/AR/AR 2 0
Ron AR/TS/AR/CA 1 0
Shannon POS/DQ/AQ/POS RB/CA/RB/RE 0 0
Jamie POS RB/AR/AR/AR 0 0
William TS/AR/NR/TS/RB/RB 0 0
Marcus CR AR/AR/AR/AR/AR 0 0
Audrey 0 1
Kathy RE/AR/AR 2 0
Everett 0 2
Aaron C. POS/POS/RR TS/AR/RA/AR/AR/AR/RB/NR/AR/AR 0 0
Calvin POS/POS AR/AR/RB/RB/AR/NR/AR/NR/NR 2 0
Cindy DQ/POS 1 0
Kasey RB/AR/TS 0 0
Michelle 0 1
Tripp 0 1
April POS 0 0
Trevor RE/AR 0 0
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Mallory POS/POS RE 0 0
Aaron W. RR 0 1
Ana RR/RR 0 2
Piper POS 0 0
Javier POS 0 0
Maria 0 1
19 speakers 23 60 10 9
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections - 16; Substantial interjections - 4
Visually, the array of disputes was again centered in the upper region of the table – indicative
that non-exploratory moves were more prevalent in the moves of our lead-speakers. The same
array was not present visually in regard to Explorations. While several dominant-speakers
uttered exploratory moves, the groupings of Explorations are not dependably present and isolated
as much with those secure participants. Lower in the table, there is present a noticeable drop in
disputational moves, while there remains a consistent row of single explorations extending
toward the bottom. There was reason to believe that during Dialogue 4 (as with other talks),
those participants who took the most chances to speak were more likely to deliver moves of
dispute. This revelation hints toward an idea that the initial structure of these dialogues
themselves triggered more Disputes than Explorations. Seemingly, vocal responses coincided in
accordance with the perceived context of our main questions. If an initial misunderstanding of
the question took place, then the likelihood that a shift away from its intended context would
generally occur as well. These confusions, in turn, were likely to lead to off-topic utterances that
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were recognized by a few – a few whose concern for dispute became stronger than their concern
for exploration. The following excerpt indicated the initial point in the talk, the beginning,
whereby a misunderstanding by a lead-speaker triggered a steady flow of off-topic
argumentation, rebuttals, and counter-argumentation:
Mr. Herr: Was not being humiliated worth the death of a living creature? Becca, what
would you like to say?
Becca: I think that the elephant should have lived because George was being selfish,
and he never really took into consideration what the animal thought. Just think of the
elephant as a cute, little puppy. It has the same kind of situation as that and if he
would have gotten the consideration of what the elephant would have done – if he
would leave it alone and the person who took care of it came back – sure he would
have been made fun of but he would have done the actual right thing. Niles.
Niles: Like elephants shouldn’t be killed if it’s for the sake of humiliating, but they
should be killed because it killed another person. It should be killed but not for
humiliating. Ron.
Ron: Okay, cute little puppies don’t kill people – (laughter) and, um…
Shannon: Ron, I’d like to disagree with you –
Mr. Herr: Hold on just a moment. Ron, were you finished with your thought?
Ron: Um, oh yeah, and you left him alone, he might have killed another person or
like the whole town or go to India and kill everybody there.
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Becca: I’d like to disagree with you. This is Becca. Um, puppies can kill people.
(Unidentifiable ‘Oh my gosh!’) If you left the elephant alone, like it said, it was out of
its state of must, it would have probably just stayed there and ate grass and laid down
and sleep or something. It wouldn’t have gone a rampaged because it was over it
already. Jamie.
Jamie: Even if it was a cute little puppy, it doesn’t matter what it is or who it is, if it
killed somebody, then I think it’s alright to kill it. Shannon.
Shannon: I disagree with you, Jamie, because what if it was an accident. It was
completely out of its mind. It was like it didn’t even see the man coming; it just
trampled him without knowing it. It kept going but it wasn’t on purpose.
Jamie: Listen, if you were messing around with a blindfold – you still killed
somebody.
Shannon: But it was an accident.
Mr. Herr: Your disagreement is fun and all, but shouldn’t we hear more ideas before
we get into this back-and-forth?
Shannon: William.
William: I would like to say that if it was a little puppy – even though it can’t kill
someone unless it thought your hand was a sausage. (Smattering of laughter).
Mr. Herr: I’m going to call a timeout and redirect the class to our question – our
question is number 11: Was not being humiliated worth the death of the elephant –
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from the story, “Shooting an Elephant?” William, you may consider calling on
somebody else.
William: Marcus.
Marcus: Okay, so I kind of agree with Becca, but then I kind of don’t. Comparing it
to a puppy – think about it. An elephant and then a small puppy dog. Um, Audrey.
Audrey: Pass. Kathy.
In this sequence, Becca immediately began to drift away from our main question and
seemingly answered the question: Did Orwell do the right thing? Aside from the next speaker,
Niles, the others in the selection latched onto Becca’s off-topic analogy comparing the elephant
to a puppy and commenced to hold exploration at bay with a definitive concern over whether or
not the elephant-to-puppy comparison was a valid one. The selection highlighted the collective
mental force of our dominant-speakers and how easily they could be led off-topic – mere
moments after a detailed review of the 12 ground-rules. It wasn’t until Niles and Cindy, two of
our less-dominant speakers, reset the talk by providing clarity about the main question. It was not
until then that Dialogue 4 registered a sequence of exploratory moves. Even so, moments later
the insertion of analogies again caused a shift from exploration to dispute. Apt comparisons
offered by Shannon and Aaron C. began to receive greater scrutiny than the content of the main
prompt, and more quips of argumentation materialized:
Mr. Herr: Timeout, please. Niles, what would you like to say about our topic?
Niles: So, I totally disagree with this guy. (Much laughter). First, of all, of course it’s
the elephant doesn’t really deserve to live its life because of humiliation, but it did kill
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a person and it’s not something controllable. Still, other humans might be able to
pursuit that guy, but it’s an elephant and you couldn’t really do anything about it. And
even if it’s an accident, it’s still dangerous. If a person killed someone accidentally,
do you just let them go? No, you don’t. And the person who died would be also
important. So I think it deserves to be killed.
Mr. Herr: Niles, do look around the room and call on someone who maybe hasn’t
joined us yet.
Niles: Cindy.
Cindy: So you’d rather not kill an elephant, but wouldn’t you be humiliated by the
rest of your life by not killing that animal? If you killed the animal, you would be
trans —
Shannon: If you killed an animal, you would be humiliated for the rest of your life –
because people forget. And another thing, everybody’s kind of getting off topic. I’m
doing a kind of analogy. What if some guy dumped your dad off the roof or
something? (Smattering of laughter).
Calvin: What?!
Shannon: I’m not saying it would happen but – and people say you should do it
because they killed your dad, and you’d be embarrassed if you didn’t. It was an
accident. Is it really worth not being humiliated?
Aaron C: Shannon, this is Aaron by the way. Okay, so that’s totally different because
it’s humans and there’s laws where you’ll go to jail for 10 years or whatever. You
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won’t just be shot with an elephant rifle because you accidently pushed someone’s
dad off of a roof. Because the elephant was uncontrollable and he could have started
going on another rampage again. So, yeah, your analogy is false.
Calvin: I agree with that.
Aaron C: Uh, Kasey.
Kasey: You guys are all comparing elephants to humans. I mean humans at least have
a chance to get lawyers to go against and actually be free; animals have no choice.
Marcus.
Marcus: So what you guys are saying is your saying that a human’s life is more
important than an animal’s life? Is that what you’re saying?
Ron: Humans are animals.
Marcus: Thank you.
Aaron C: Duh!
Calvin: I have to – have to --
Mr. Herr: You will be called on by the previous speaker, or you will not join us.
At the beginning of this selection, Niles and Cindy pursued the gist of our main question
and even initiated exploration from a lead-speaker, Shannon. From the point of her analogous-
delivery, the sequence began to trigger a bevy of arguments and rebuttals. Calvin, Aaron C., and
Ron seemed to represent a side against Kasey and Shannon, causing the sequence, and the rest of
the discussion to progress toward an off-topic debate. Only single, sporadic inserts of position
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statements (POS) and requests for reasoning questions (RR) materialized throughout the rest of
the talk. Even 6 of 10 Agreements were delivered in support of arguments that drifted away from
the main prompt.
When asked during the post-dialogue interview whether or not constant disagreeing was a
good part of our talks, all five interviewees confessed that it was. Jamie professed understanding
a relationship that exists between disagreement and the delivery of ideas:
If everybody agreed on something, then there wouldn’t be something to talk about. So
it’s good to have different ideas.
William went so far as to equate disagreement with providing a service to the person being
disagreed with:
If you disagree with someone, they can be able to change their answer and make it to
where an idea was changed to help the question being answered.
Becca epitomized the students’ ideals about the benefits of disagreement to the process of
exploration by claiming that disagreement could actually be perceived as exploration – if such
argumentation was done respectfully:
Say, ‘I fully don’t believe in what you’re saying.’ We’ve had a lot of people say, ‘I
disagree with you, I disagree with you.’ I think they’re being stubborn and what they
think is right is what he should have done. Like, really, they’re not opening up to
changing their idea and their perspective on what he should have done.
The students further iteratively supported the interview claims regarding Dialogue 4 during the
post-dialogue survey. As indicated by a Likert survey inquiring about memorable qualities of
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Dialogue 4’s prompt, one-third of the class rated the question with a top-score of five. The
average rating on the scale was comparable to that received by “The Heinz Dilemma” prompt at
3.7. Becca, who provided our main question for Dialogue 4, even indicated on her exit survey
that “Was not being humiliated worth the death of a living creature?” was the best overall
question of the 14 prompts observed.
Class Dialogue 5 – October 3, 2014: Non-Textual Generated Topic (35:45).
Our prompt for Dialogue 5 was generated entirely from participants who posed questions
onto the classes’ social learning website, Edmodo®. Ten student-questions submitted on or
before the morning of October 3 were scribed onto the main dry-erase board for voting. Three
questions received nine votes each, while our chosen topic garnered 10 votes: Which school is
better, Texas Leadership Academy or Core Knowledge Academy? Unlike the student-generated
question chosen from Dialogue 1, I, as facilitator, did not provide any suggestions of possible
topics to choose for Dialogue 5.
The topic chosen, an issue understood by students to be important because of its
relationship to matters of competition between rival charter schools, did not remarkably trigger
an overwhelming bias favoring Core Knowledge Academy. Due to the recent enrollment at CKA
of two former students of Texas Leadership Academy (Marcus and Michelle), our class featured
participants who spoke from experiences about both schools. In turn, many other CKA-specific
students in our group called upon Marcus and Michelle to offer up information and explanations.
Not indicative during previous talks, Dialogue 5 provided a forum not dominated early by our
common lead-speakers. Dominate speakers still accounted for most moves (70 of 122 total), yet
other less-assertive speakers seemed poised to become involved earlier than in dialogues prior.
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Specifically, April, Michelle, Trevor, and Cindy joined in vocally quicker than in any other
previous talk – even without my normal, procedural prompting of dominant-speakers to allow
others to join in. For Michelle, engagement throughout Dialogue 5 was due to the fact that
talking about her former school, TLA, held relevance to her life. For April, Trevor, and Cindy, I
can speculate that their offerings during Dialogue 5 had more to do with comfort. These three
students are not strong critical readers, and for each of them to engage more substantially here
than in other talks indicated their comfort in speaking about a topic in which reference points
were a matter of lived experiences – not a matter of textual comprehension. Moreover, with an
absence of early procedural prompting from me (as facilitator), more substantial, exploratory
questions (9) were interjected during Dialogue 5. This was the most insertion of substantial
moves from me since Dialogue 2 (“The Heinz Dilemma”).
My ground-rules review delivered before Dialogue 5 consisted of providing a summary
of the last talk, highlighting issues of disrespect that stemmed from participants making fun of
unclear and uncommon analogies. I made a point to focus this pre-dialogue review on the noted
problems participants struggled with in regard to respecting general and unclear ideas. I also
addressed the absence of inquiring questions by indicating that rule 9 (Be prepared to change
your mind.) really applied to our lead-speakers who were initiating more arguments than
explorations, and that to understand Thinking Out Loud as a debate was to miss the point of our
discussions. I emphasized that our talks were designed to create a community of care and
questioning: a chance for everybody present to gain an understanding from thinking together out
loud.
In comparison to previous talks, Dialogue 5 prompted a greater number of vocal
participants at twenty-two. Previously, only Dialogue 2 had elicited as many. Only one student
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passed on speaking altogether (Everett), and two students went uncalled on (Ana and Tripp).
Twelve speakers offered three or more moves throughout the talk, and, as mentioned earlier, nine
dominant-speakers were more dispersed and spread out during the course of this near thirty-six
minute discussion. For the first time in the observed dialogues, participants delivered more than
one-hundred moves, topping out at 122. Dialogue 5 was still most defined by disputes, as the
total number of moves (75) registered at the lowest percentage of our talks yet (61%). Likewise,
a greater number of exploratory moves (41) contributed to its highest percentage yet at 33%.
More than being defined by disputational moves, Dialogue 5 was most identifiable by the
contributions of two participants: Marcus and Michelle. Serving the class with the knowledge of
experience, these former students of a rival school, TLA, were summoned often by others in
attendance to state opinions that might offer rare insights. Interestingly, starting with Becca near
the half-way point in the talk, once Marcus and Michelle were brought into the discourse, the
exploratory nature of the discussion became evident. Participants generally still missed out on
respectful acknowledgement of previous speakers during this sequence; however, there seemed
to materialize more of a thirst for inquiry, especially from Becca and Elizabeth. While the
upcoming sequence indicated distinct moves in exploration, it also allowed Marcus and Michelle
to fall into some disputing banter as they tried to flesh-out conflicting details from their
collective memories:
Becca: I have a question for Marcus and Michelle: Is it actually true, what I’ve heard
from some people, that TLA had problems with, uh, bringing drugs and alcohol and
doing that –
Michelle: Yeah.
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Marcus: Just drugs. Which is not very good either but, yeah, drugs.
Becca: Uh, Michelle.
Michelle: Um, back to the education. Back in 5th grade, I was having trouble learning
all the 6th grade stuff, so when I went to 6th grade, they teached that grade, so it was a
lot easier. I got a better explanation of stuff in math, and yeah – Aaron.
Aaron C.: --
Becca: I have a question for you guys, Marcus and Michelle: Did they have high
school credits at TLA?
Michelle: Yes.
Becca: Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: I have a question for – you were the two, right? I have a question for both
of y’all: So, we don’t really know much about the school, ‘cause we’ve never been
there: Could you tell us like just a little bit of what you experienced when you were
there so we can get a better detail of it?
Mr. Herr: Elizabeth, you should choose one at a time so –
Elizabeth: Uh, okay, Marcus.
Marcus: Well, uh, what we’ve experienced there? We’ve experienced some good
things and bad things. We’ve gotten a good education; we know a lot of Chinese, but
there’s a lot more bad things – like they would use a lot of like profanity and they
would bring like illegal substances on the campus.
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Michelle: They went to jail for that.
Marcus: Yeah, they went to juvie for that. Um, well, they would do terrible things –
like they brought guns and knives –
Michelle: No they didn’t.
Marcus: Yeah, they did!
Michelle: Well, Damon started to.
Mr. Herr: This back-and-forth’s going to be hard for me to transcribe if you don’t at
least identify yourselves.
Marcus: Oh, okay, this is Marcus speaking, passing it to Michelle.
Michelle: And I’m passing it to Becca.
Becca: Um, I had a question for Michelle. Um, was there any problems of bullying or
uh, any mistreatment of younger students or older students because they know
something is a certain class or they got bullied or punched or something?
Michelle: Yes, there was a boy at our school – what was his name?
Mr. Herr: No need to say names. Just say it was a boy.
Michelle: Okay, um, we had this huge assembly about it, but at lunch – it was his
birthday, right. And he brought cookies, and all these kids that were rude to him –
they kept asking for food. So he got a microphone and he made a huge speech about
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how they used to be rude to him, and he expected them to do something nice, and
yeah, so – Aaron.
In combination, Marcus and Michelle contributed 41 of the 122 moves (34%). Their
delivery of 14 collective moves in exploration were, for the most part, offered as position
statements. While these statements did not initiate exploration for Marcus and Michelle, their
transfers of thought seemed to elicit exploratory moves, especially in the form of divergent
questions asked by Becca and Elizabeth. In prompting others to inquire, such position statements
were counted in the Explorations column of Table 12. Throughout the previous selection, a sense
of joint, collective exploration emerged for a few moments. While Marcus and Michelle did offer
some moves of dispute through argumentation, rebuttal, and non-reasoning, as a whole the
sequence showed more in the way of natural exploration among a small group. Even though
Becca and Elizabeth’s inserted inquiries derived as non-sequiturs, the context of their questions
still allowed for in-depth replies on-topic. Table 12 provides a visual description of move
sequences and types in the order that participants joined in the dialogue.
Table 12
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 5 – Student/Teacher-Generated Topic
Participant Explorations Disputes Agree Passes
Calvin POS TS/AR/AR/TS/CA/RE/AR 0 0
Niles POS RE 1 0
Marcus POS/POS/POS/POS/POS/POS/RR RE/AR/RB/AR/AR/AR/NR 0 0
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Javier DQ RE/RB 0 0
Kasey AR/TS/CA 1 0
Elizabeth POS/ID/DQ/DQ RE/RE/AR/RE/RB/AR/RB/RE/TS 0 0
Becca POS/DQ/DQ/ID RE/TS/RE/RE/RE 0 0
Audrey POS/POS/POS RE/RE 0 0
Kathy RR AR/RE/RE/NR 1 0
April POS RE 0 0
William AR/RE/TS 0 0
Aaron C. POS RE/CA/NR/AR/TS/RE/NR/RE/TS/RB/RE 1 0
Michelle POS/POS/POS/POS/POS/POS/ RE/NR/RE/TS/NR/AR/CA/TS/NR/NR 0 2
POS
Trevor AR 0 0
Cindy RB 0 0
Mallory ID/RR/ID 0 0
Shannon AR/RE/AR/AR 2 0
Piper ID/POS 0 0
Ron DQ/CR AR 0 0
Everett 0 1
Jamie AR/AR 0 0
Aaron W. ID/POS 0 0
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Maria ID RE 0 1
22 speakers 41 75 6 4
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections - 16; substantial interjections - 9
The total number of Explorations reached 41. While the total number of delivered moves
was up (122), a greater register of Explorations in Dialogue 5 was dispersed among 16 students.
Six of these students contributed three or more moves in exploration. In the four dialogues prior,
no more than three participants offered more than 3 exploratory moves in total. This may have
been due to the extended length of some seven minutes in Dialogue 5 as compared to those
previous, or due to a heightened desire to explore the topic by a greater number of participants.
Less-dominant speakers contributed moves in exploration with greater frequency. As indicated,
Michelle played a major role in the talk, yet other secondary participants such as Audrey,
Mallory, Ron, and Aaron W. also offered more exploratory moves than in previous talks.
Most Explorations during Dialogue 5 were again delivered as position statements (POS).
Without the emergence of Marcus and Michelle as lead-speakers, exploration may or may not
have materialized differently. As it occurred, Marcus and Michelle contributed 34% of all
Explorations through their speech. Again, as in dialogues prior, position statements (POS)
accounted for most of exploration at 24 of 41 total (59%). However, offers of
inference/deductive exploration (ID) appeared more frequently during Dialogue 5 than in others.
Here, exploratory moves of induction/deduction (ID) attributed to 17% of Explorations. In
previous dialogues, inference/deductive moves had accounted for no more than 7% of
Explorations. Interesting to note, 5 of the 7 inference/deductive moves emerged during the latter
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portion of the dialogue from less-dominant speakers. Mallory, more emergent as a conscientious
explorer in our talks, and Piper had previously shown deliveries of deductive logic into
discussion, but it was interesting to witness deductive thinking out loud as well from both Aaron
W. and Maria. Mallory uttered a deductive summary of previous thoughts in the construction of
her substantial point toward seeking agreement (ground-rule 12):
Mallory: Yeah, so we’re getting kind of low on time here. So, I think we should try to
seek an agreement: Which school is better, TLA or CKA? Okay, you all have your
opinions; you all have your ideas. And some of the ideas I’ve heard (examining her
KWL chart for ideas) is TLA has more sports, but CKA has better education. You
can’t really compare those two things – like Shannon said, it’s like comparing a
marshmallow to a giraffe – and I agree with that; you can’t compare two things that
are so wildly different. I think we need to find like what are we comparing the two
schools on – are we basing it on athletics, education, on other things like field trips?
Let’s try to find an agreement. Calvin.
The next selections exemplified deductive moves illustrating how Aaron W. and Maria
combined the previous thoughts of others to construct their own positions – aloud:
Aaron W.: Well, I don’t really think we really can agree because – like Becca said,
we’re kind of comparing to what school has better sports, what school has better
education, and we’re kind of putting them on the same line – being equal. I’m not
really saying one is more important than the other, but I’m trying to get to an engineer
– it’s what I’m going to do, so CKA would probably be a better school for me – I
don’t know; I just think CKA’s better for that. Um, Elizabeth.
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Maria: Okay, so I agree with Mallory because it really depends on what you want to
do when you grow up and what school you go to. TLA may have sports, and if that’s
where you want to focus on in the future, okay. And CKA may have a better
education and that’s what you need in your future. So it really depends on what you
want to be.
This emergence of deductive moves seemingly helped to raise the overall percentage of
exploratory talk to 33% for Dialogue 5. Undoubtedly, information about prior experiences
provided by Marcus and Michelle triggered later speakers such as Mallory, Aaron W., and Maria
to draw conclusions aloud.
Moves of dispute accounted for much of the analysis of Dialogue 5. Yet 75 moves of 122
(61%) indicated a slight drop in disputational talk as compared to percentages in previous
dialogues. Dominant-speakers again delivered the majority of disputational moves here. Fifty-
three of 75 Dispute moves (71%) were offered by nine different lead-speakers. As indicated by
Table 12, most Disputes were identified as a lack of acknowledgement of previous speakers (RE)
and argumentation/rebuttal/counter-arguments (AR/RB/CA). Disregard for previous speakers
accounted for 26 of 75 moves (35%), while argument moves were initiated 21 times (28%).
Rebuttals and counter-arguments occurred in combination 10 times (13%), yet topic-shifts (TS)
were given with more frequency in Dialogue 5 than during others prior – 10 at 13%.
Despite the delivery of a majority of disputational moves in Dialogue 5, this talk was not
noticeably disrespectful or argumentative. Fifteen of 26 disregarding moves (RE) were delivered
within inquiring conversations with Marcus and Michelle. Many of the disregards (RE) were
immediately supplemented with new positions derived from the information provided by our two
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lead-speakers. Even several divergent questions emerged following an immediate disregard for a
previous speaker. Argumentation was present most during back-and-forth discussions between
Marcus and Michelle. Only Calvin, Elizabeth, Aaron C., Shannon consistently engaged in
argument, rebuttal, counter-argument, and topic-shifts outside of conversations with Marcus or
Michelle. This number of argumentative lead-participants was lower compared with those of
other dialogues.
Distinct agreement was also not a defining trait of Dialogue 5. Only 6 of 122 moves were
made in agreement (5%). Contributing to such scant offerings of agreement was perhaps an
acute, thoughtful digestion of position-information provided by Marcus and Michelle. Also, as
the majority of the students had no previous experiences at TLA, yet had plenty of opinionated
experiences regarding CKA, the initial foundations were not ripe for producing agreements on
the whole. An absence of agreement was also indicated by the results of the post-dialogue Likert-
survey. Individual choices on the 5-point scale fluctuated more so in regard to Dialogue 5’s
question-rating than all previous others. Eight indications of 5.0 were logged, while, equally in
contrast, 8 indications of 2.0 were also signified. Although individual tallies varied in extremes
between 2.0 and 5.0 on the Likert scale, no student indicated a score of 1 for this question. This
general division from the bottom to the top of the Likert scale resulted in an overall tally of 85
and a mean score of 3.4 – lower than I had initially predicted for a dialogue that elicited 22 of 25
vocal participants. Yet four students on an exit survey query indicated that “Which school is
better, TLA or CKA?” was the best overall question of our 14 observed prompts.
Perhaps the moves generated from proffered information from Marcus and Michelle
triggered this influx of total speakers in general. Only four total passed-opportunities to vocalize
were issued, only one from a student who chose not engage at all (Everett). Three other passes
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came from students who had either joined in prior to or after their choice to pass. As mentioned,
two other students did not raise hands to engage or were not called on to join altogether. Even in
the absence of facilitated procedural moves prompting an elicitation for more speakers, vocal
participation was at its highest level since Dialogue 2, “The Heinz Dilemma.”
Class Dialogue 6 – October 9, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma – “Frederick”
(32:20).
“Frederick,” like our previous other Philosophical/Moral Dilemma text, “The Heinz
Dilemma,” was shared aloud by me on the same day as Dialogue 6 took place. “Frederick,” by
Leo Lionni, is a classic, picture-book tale preeminent within a larger volume of Lionni’s stories
entitled, Frederick’s Fables (1985). Frederick, one of five in a family of field mice living in a
stone wall on the property of an abandoned farm seems idle while the rest of his siblings labor
hastily to collect enough food and bedding to last through the onset of a harsh winter. To the
other members of his field mice family, Frederick is simply daydreaming while they gather and
toil in the days leading up to winter’s arrival. When asked, reproachfully, by his siblings where
his supplies are, Frederick says that he is indeed gathering – gathering with his mind. Frederick
claims to be gathering sunrays, colors, and words because the in the cold, snowy days ahead,
these things will prove useful. Well into winter, with the surplus of food and warm bedding
dwindling quickly, Frederick’s siblings demand that Frederick present the supplies that he been
gathering. Frederick climbs a stone and asks for the others to close their eyes as he describes the
warmth of the sunrays. The mice miraculously begin to feel warmer as his description grows in
detail. Next, his siblings excitedly request for Frederick to present another “supply” to the group.
Frederick again asks the others to close their eyes. He then describes a myriad of colors by using
comparison imagery to help the others to picture fields of flowers in which Frederick’s family is
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familiar. His siblings wonder if it was magic that enabled them to visualize the bright colors that
they had not seen in months. In great anticipation, the field mice plead Frederick next for the
words that he also said to be gathering. In the finale of the story, Frederick, atop a stone in the
wall, delivers a four-stanza, rhyming quatrain that makes comparisons to his siblings’
relationship to the importance and benefits of having four seasons. Upon completion of the
poem, Frederick’s brothers and sisters realize and accept the fact that Frederick is a poet.
Upon completion of the read-aloud and the initial stage of the K-W-L chart, students
began submitting Thinking Out Loud questions for me to include on the board for voting. Ten
questions were submitted, all by students, and most would have potentially led the class toward
an exploratory conversation. Question 6 received the most votes at 14: What is the purpose of the
story? I became leery that, like our last question to ask “what”, students might be mired in a rut
of selfish ideas, never venturing to reason through as deep a dilemma as this picture-book
presents.
Coming off our most exploratory and least disputational talk in Dialogue 5, I did not
orderly review and discuss each of the 12 ground-rules with the class. I did mention that
Dialogue 5 exhibited more student-to-student respect and more exploratory questions, and that
those attributes were ideas that the class should continue to work towards. I also mentioned, as I
had been for the past three talks, that disagreements can in fact be expressed in the form of a
question as well. Prompting a student to answer the question of “why” or to clarify thinking
about a position, I said, would prove a great way to disagree in a more exploratory manner.
Even with that being indicated, Dialogue 6 began and drifted immediately off-track.
Disputational talk crept into the discussion early and indicated to me as a researcher who of our
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dominant-speakers seemed concerned most with entering into a discourse more to dispute and
argue than to explore and agree. The following excerpt indicated the starting exchanges of
Dialogue 6:
Shannon: This is Shannon. I think that the purpose of the story is to prove that art and
most things that people would consider expendable in our lives is actually just as
important as the things that we need to keep us alive. Uh, Jamie.
Jamie: I would like to disagree with you because I think the question’s more of an
opinion question because you can think it’s about what you said, or you could think
about how the changing of fall only happens once.
Becca: I have a question for you, Jamie. If it’s an opinion question, then why are you
disagreeing with somebody because it’s their opinion to disagree with their opinion?
Jamie: Oh, I don’t get the question. Opinions, you disagree with opinions sometimes.
Mr. Herr: Somebody help steer this thing. (Laughter.)
Marcus: Uh, I agree with Sheridan. I mean, it’s her opinion. I see where you’re
coming from. Basically, since I didn’t read the story, I really don’t know where
you’re coming from. So, but anyways, you really can’t disagree with somebody else’s
opinion. I mean, you can, but you really can’t. You have to really –
Mr. Herr: Timeout. Somebody steer this thing, please. Please call on somebody,
Marcus.
Surprisingly, however, many participants realized that this off-topic banter offered by Jamie,
Becca, and Marcus was counter-intuitive to exploratory processes and tried to steer it back early
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in the talk. In fact, once the discussion focused back on track, it was never allowed to drift-off
for the duration of the dialogue. The resulting analysis of Dialogue 6 would indicate that, like no
other dialogue prior, this talk would be defined by exploration – especially deriving from
participants’ questions regarding the purpose of the story, “Frederick”. The following sequence
details a quick guiding of the talk back on-topic as well as a steady continuation thereof.
Marcus: Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Okay, so sometimes they have a purpose for the story but sometimes they
have no purpose for the story. You know, just for people to enjoy. I mean, I have a
question: Does anyone know like what the actual purpose is? I don’t see a purpose at
all. Mallory.
Mallory: Okay, it’s a fable which is one of those stories with morals. So the purpose
of the story is kind of to teach us a lesson, and I’m trying to find out what that lesson
could be. Kasey.
Kasey: I have a question for Calvin. Calvin, do you think this story is more
psychological or more like physical?
Calvin: I think it’s more like psychological ‘cause their food ran out. Eventually, at
that point the physical thing didn’t matter as much because they couldn’t go get
something, so now it matter on what can we do to make ourselves feel better? What
can we do to help us, but we don’t have anything physical to help us? So do we need
something mental to help us?
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Kasey: Do you think Frederick could make them feel like they were hungry – like not
hungry anymore?
In the previous sequence, Elizabeth immediately steered the dialogue back to the main question
with her deductive statement and guiding request for reasons. At that point, Mallory joined in,
stating a position and supplying logical honesty. Kasey disregarded Mallory but then posed two
divergent yet purposeful questions around Calvin’s expression of reasoning. While this sequence
did not indicate a depth that might later be achieved in the talk, it did lay the foundation for a
more exploratory quest to predominantly follow.
In total, 19 of 25 students entered into Dialogue 6. In contrast to previous dialogues, 16
participants delivered at least three moves – four more than did so during Dialogue 5. Also, the
spread of vocal frequencies was diverse throughout the talk. Less-dominant speakers contributed
more so than in any dialogue prior. Interestingly, a consistency of moves spent exploring allowed
me as facilitator to pose more substantial inquiries to specific students in a quest to elicit deeper
reasoning. Students such as Cindy, Ana, and Maria offered more than four moves each due to
sequences of on-topic queries by me in an attempt to get them think in greater depth.
During Dialogue 6 I was able step away from being the procedural director and portray
the role of devil’s advocate through the asking of substantial questions. Once there emerged two
sides to the Frederick work-ethic argument, I was able to question participants on both sides by
taking an opposite stance. As indicated in Table 13, for the first time in our observed dialogues,
facilitator moves of substantial interjection (15) surpassed in number those made in a procedural
context (12). Such facilitator moves in which I posed divergent questions in an attempt to engage
deeper reasoning of individual participants were directed to Shannon, Elizabeth, Aaron C., Ana,
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and Cindy. In the sequence that follows, I was able to draw-in Ana, a less-assertive speaker, to
engage in reasoning.
Mr. Herr: Thank you. Hold on; I have a question for the class to try to steer us: Must
everybody in a family or a community or any sort of society group -- must everybody
do the same job? Ana, what are your thoughts?
Ana: No, because some people need to do different jobs so they can build up and
make a community.
Mr. Herr: So, it is okay that Frederick did something different than the other family
members, Ana?
Ana: Yes.
Mr. Herr: Why?
Ana: Because it might encourage them to be more happy because they were going to
die. Elizabeth.
The result in questioning individual students contributed to the emergence of opportunities for
participants to explore – generally through position statements but occasionally through
divergent, assessment, or information inquires. During exchanges whereby I did play the devil’s
advocate, the interest of more dominant speakers was sparked regularly. Several understood such
prompting to be an invitation to argue. Regardless, on-topic discussion sequences uttered without
the hindrances of procedural interjections for steering the talk on-topic allowed for me as
facilitator to open up my own exploratory repertoire. Within these exchanges, greater overall
chances to witness exploration were exhibited. Table 13 indicates the coding breakdown of
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Dialogue 6. Interesting to note in comparison to previous tables is the assembly of moves coded
within the Explorations column as opposed to past talks.
Table 13
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 6 – Philosophical/Moral Dilemma: “Frederick”
Participant Explorations Disputes Agree Passes
Calvin POS/ID/POS/POS/POS/POS TS/RE/AR/CA/AR 1 0
Shannon POS/RR/POS/DQ/DQ/IQ/DQ RE/RE 0 0
Jamie POS AR/CA 0 0
Becca POS/RR/RR/POS/ID/POS/CR RB/RE/TS/RE 0 0
Marcus RR/POS AR/RE 2 0
Elizabeth ID/RR/CR/POS/IQ/IQ/CR/ID/POS RE/RE 0 0
Mallory POS/ID/RR/ID/POS RB 0 0
Kasey DQ/AQ/POS/CR/DQ RE/RE/TS/TS/TS/RB/AR/RE/AR 0 0
Cindy POS/POS/POS/POS RE/NR/NR 0 0
Niles ID/POS/ID RE/RE/AR 0 0
Ron POS/POS NR 0 0
Ana POS/POS/RR/POS NR 0 0
Aaron C. POS/POS/POS/POS/POS AR/TS/NR 0 0
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Kathy RE/TS 1 0
Javier RB 0 0
Maria DQ/ID/POS RE 1 0
Piper ID/POS 0 0
William RE/TS/NR/RB 0 0
Aaron W. POS/POS RE
19 speakers 67 47 5 0
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections – 12; substantial interjections – 15
During a 32-minute time span, 119 student moves were uttered. Dialogue 6 was the first
of the observed talks in this study to be defined by exploratory talk. Here, exploratory moves
(67) eclipsed disputational moves (47) by twenty moves. Explorations were offered 56% of the
time, as opposed to Disputes at 39%. Extended sequences of participant exploration materialized
and thusly drove down the number of disputing moves. Overall initiation of arguments (AR) in
fact was at its lowest number thus far observed, coded 8 times (17%). Disregards for previous
speakers (RE) still attributed to 18 of 47 disputational moves (38%). Yet during extended
sequences of student-exploration, moves of previous-speaker disregard were fewer. An advent
contributing to this drop in Disputes seemed two-fold. Essential to this change was an increase in
substantial facilitator inquires directed toward individual participants and a greater desire by
students to pose their own questions for exploration. In fact, during Dialogue 6, 20 participant
exploratory questions were delivered (30% of all Explorations), eclipsing our previous observed
high by 13 questions. Contributing to this increased insertion of student-questions was an
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upsurge in requests for reasoning (RR). During Dialogue 6, requests for reasoning (RR) occurred
most often as inquiries. Requests for reasoning (RR) moves were delivered eight times, yet on
six of those occasions, they took the form of a question. In the following sequence, Marcus
reiterates Shannon’s divergent question by making it his own request. His restatement of a
previous question indicated more of a plea or request for reasons:
Shannon: Isn’t the point of being alive to chase happiness?
Kasey: Actually, what I believe is that the point of being alive is to learn because
even whenever you’re dying – I mean what it means to die – what’s after death –
you’re always learning. So, Marcus.
Marcus: I have to agree with Shannon. Life is – what’s the point of life if you’re not
happy? I mean happiness makes life basically better. What’s the point of living if
you’re not happy, if you’re depressed all the time and sad? Mr. Herr.
Divergent questions (DQ) were also offered six times. Even information questions (IQ) and
assessment questions (AQ) were delivered three and one time respectively. Clarifications and
restatements (CR), which have tended to occur occasionally in our talks, totaled four. Statements
of initial position still accounted for the most moves of exploration at 36 (54%). More often
during Dialogue 6, position statements were delivered following teacher and student inquiries.
During sequences exhibiting multiple moves of such inquiries, moves of previous-speaker
disregard (RE) registered fewer. As is present in the upcoming excerpt, explorations of
participants’ ideas through statements of position occurred regularly following inquiries by both
myself and Becca:
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Mr. Herr: Thank you. Hold on; I have a question for the class to try to steer us: Must
everybody in a family or a community or any sort of society group -- must everybody
do the same job? Ana, what are your thoughts?
Ana: No, because some people need to do different jobs so they can build up and
make a community.
Mr. Herr: So, it is okay that Frederick did something different than the other family
members, Ana?
Ana: Yes.
Mr. Herr: Why?
Ana: Because it might encourage them to be more happy because they were going to
die. Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Okay, so I have to say this: Um, what did you just say? I just heard it.
Ana: I said that they should do different jobs because it might encourage them if they
were dying.
Elizabeth: Okay, so if I were a mouse, and I was doing a good job and I was working
my butt off, I would probably want everybody to work too. I wouldn’t want
somebody sitting around on a rock staring at the sun and doing something other than
what I was doing. So, as long as you’re working or doing something else that’s not
sitting on a rock doing nothing, I’d be okay with that. But other than that, I would like
somebody to work and not be the only one working. Ron.
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Ron: Uh, well maybe Frederick is working on his rock. Uh, Cindy.
Cindy: I think that if we all just stayed doing the same thing over and over again,
we’d never get anything done. Wait, can I answer your question?
Elizabeth: Yeah.
Mr. Herr: Yeah, does everybody in a family or community need to do the same job?
Cindy: I think that everybody should do the same job because if you work together,
you’d get more things done.
Mr. Herr: May I ask you a question? Um, will you tell us who your favorite musician
is?
Cindy: Uh –
Mr. Herr: Or a favorite? Somebody.
Cindy: One Direction.
Mr. Herr: Okay, so the members of One Direction – are you hoping also that they’ll
build our roads and be our doctors and also teach students and maybe also be
architects, or would you rather them just sing and play music?
Cindy: I would rather them sing and play music –
Mr. Herr: Why don’t you want them to be construction workers or be something else?
Cindy: Maybe because that’s what they do; they don’t work on roads and stuff. That’s
their job.
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Mr. Herr: Okay, thanks for answering. You may call on the next person.
Cindy: Um, Becca.
Becca: Okay, um, I have a question to ask the class that really we need to focus on
more: What is the purpose of the story – number 6? Piper.
Piper: I honestly did not hear the story at all, but what I have learned that he was a
poet and everyone else was gathering food and they could have made better choices
when eating obviously, but I think that everyone in this world has something that they
should do, and not everyone is made to do everything correctly. So some of us are
good at math; some of us are good at reading and not everyone should do the same
thing because has a different thing that they’re good at. I think that even though they
may have been collecting food, just because he was thinking – good things can come
out of thinking and everyone can contribute no matter what they do. That’s what I
think. Uh, Ana.
Ana: I agree with Piper. And I think Frederick, he just sits on rocks because it’s what
he likes to do; he just likes to do that instead of what the others are doing.
Becca, in her determination to restate the main question, did not comprehend how the divergent
nature of my questioning could contribute to an on-topic construction of reasoning about the
purpose of “Frederick”. Yet the following speaker, Piper, in her deductive thinking, continued to
answer whether or not everyone in a community needs to perform the same job once she made
the disclaimer that she did not hear the read-aloud (due to a partial absence from class). Ana, in
the concluding move of the presented sequence, agreed with Piper but then offered an extension
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that served as a new position. These types of explorations, triggered by moves of inquiry, aided
Dialogue 6 in functioning more as a Community of Inquiry.
In the post-dialogue interview session, interviewees suggested also that Dialogue 6 was
an exercise in exploration. Kathy provided thoughts that summed up the beliefs of the others:
I think we explored. There was more questions than in past dialogues and we didn’t
really get a right answer together because we each had our own opinions about
Frederick so we didn’t really agree. But we also didn’t disagree because we agreed on
some things but not the main topic I guess you could call it. So I think we explored
more.
Shannon provided insight regarding the question chosen for discussion. She identified a
relationship of the main question to the classes’ focus on exploration:
I think the class did really well. We explored almost all of the possibilities because
the way the question is worded, it’s kind of hard to get off track because it’s so broad.
Kathy indicated that the dialogue was interesting because of the frequency of exploratory
inquiries made by participants:
I think what was interesting was that every person said ideas and one person in
particular (Mallory) was asking questions and that was what helped us. It’s because
they kept asking questions about how they had new and different questions about
what the person said, and so I think that helped and I think that was interesting.
In accordance to the entire classes’ perception of the question discussed in Dialogue 6,
scores tallied from the post-dialogue Likert survey indicated a below average rating. Twenty-five
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students indicated that our question merit a raw score of 71 of a possible 100 – the same score
attributed to Dialogue 3’s topic regarding “The Necklace.” The 71 translated to a mean score (on
a 5-point scale) of 2.8 – also tied for the lowest with that of Dialogue 3. Somewhat surprising
after the exploratory nature of the talk, only Ana identified the question from “Frederick” to have
been the best of our 14 overall, based on her indication from the exit survey. Such lackluster
opinions of the “Frederick” question, based on survey results, was somewhat surprising based on
what was deemed a successful talk in enacting a Community of Inquiry. However, based on the
dialogue questions which had achieved the highest Likert mean score, it was becoming apparent
that students appreciated those questions which elicited the most moves of dispute from
argumentation. Kathy, during a post-talk interview, perhaps echoed participants’ sentiments
toward the Dialogue 6 question:
I don’t think it was good one to discuss because not many people answered the
question. They were just going about other questions, and I think they wanted to
answer a different question because the main question wasn’t discussed many times.
But I don’t think it was a good one.
Class Dialogue 7 – October 24, 2014: Classical Fiction - “The Tell-Tale Heart”
(30:04).
Dialogue 7 was prompted by a dilemma related to plot circumstances existent in Edgar
Allan Poe’s classic, gothic tale, “The Tell-Tale Heart” (2011). In this short story, a nervous and
suspect narrator tells the story of events that have seemingly led to his incarceration. Claiming
that he has a nameless disease that causes acute hearing, the narrator pleads to the reader that he
is not mad but actually clever. His cleverness and sanity can be proven, he suggests, through the
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precise details he enacts through the climax and falling action of the tale. The narrator proceeds
to tell of the ill-feelings he had for an old tenant’s deformed eye. The narrator insists that he does
not hate the old man; it is only his pale, filmy eye that sends him into a rage. To rid himself of
the eye, the narrator devises a plan to kill the old man. For seven nights the narrator sneaks into
the old man’s room, shining a thread of light onto his open but blind eye to increase his raging
anger toward his tenant. On the eighth night, the narrator goes through his normal act, but this
time, he rushes the old man in the dark of his room, wrestles him to the floor, and then pulls his
bed on top of him. With the old man dead, the narrator proceeds to dispose of the corpse by
cutting up the body of the old man, removing planks of the bedroom floor, and burying the body
within the scantlings. Hours later, officers of the police arrive at the narrator’s house to question
him since a neighbor heard a shriek in the night. The narrator leads the officers about the house
with nonchalant behavior, even pausing in the old man’s bedroom to offer the police
refreshments. The police seem satisfactorily convinced of the innocence of the narrator, yet the
narrator begins to get an escalating, uneasy feeling. His uneasiness leads to rage, and the narrator
commences to an inward raving while he perceives that the officers are mocking him in their
jovial talk with one another. The narrator’s raving discontent becomes unbearable and he bursts
with details of the murder and the disposal of the old man’s body. He insists that the police tear
up the planks in the floor to reveal the body. The narrator suggests that his rage was excited and
his guilt revealed by the beating of the old man’s heartbeat – a heartbeat from a dead man that
the narrator heard from underneath the floor.
This story was read aloud the class period before our dialogue, and upon completion of
the tale, we talked some about what the narrator might have actually been hearing that caused
him to give himself away to the police. We determined that in his nervousness throughout the
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whole ordeal, the narrator was actually hearing his own heartbeat. His pulse became enhanced
because of the narrator’s feelings of guilt and he, ultimately, could not bear “hearing” it, perhaps
thinking it was a heartbeat from the old man.
Students prior to the dialogue were asked to submit their Thinking Out Loud question to
our social learning website, Edmodo®. Six questions were posed before our dialogue period, and
five more were added after the accomplishment of the first phase of our K-W-L chart. Question
4, submitted by me to Edmodo®, secured 16 votes and became our main question for discussion:
The narrator: crazy or clever? I submitted the question, not with the intent of being chosen (I did
not alert the students before or after voting that it was mine.), but because at the time of its
inclusion there were only two other prompts logged. I did purposely submit such a question that
would require vocal participants to choose a side – which I thought might prompt them to
explore with deeper reasoning.
Coming off our most exploratory talk a week prior, I kept any direct instruction regarding
our 12 ground-rules to a low minimum. I commended the class on joining in our last dialogue
with more questions and moves of exploration than ever before. I reminded students to keep up
the respect that was exhibited last and to continue striving to disagree by asking questions,
prompting deeper reasoning from those whose ideas might need development. The goal as
always, I said, was to explore by finding out what everybody really thinks about the topic of the
day. In order to do that, I suggested that students must inquire of each other’s thinking out loud –
even when they possess disagreements of opinion.
Dialogue 7 featured an exclusive group of dominant-speakers. In total 15 of 25 students
took part vocally in Dialogue 7, while even fewer participants joined in with 3 or more moves
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(13). In fact, only a select group of nine participants took more than two turns to speak during
Dialogue 7. Three more students were called on to speak but declined; seven students did not
attempt to join or were not called upon to speak. Not since Dialogue 1 had so few students
engage in a discourse as were absent from speaking during Dialogue 7.
Participants contributed 130 moves in just over 30 minutes, surpassing the number
achieved in Dialogue 5 by eight moves. For that many moves to be delivered by a combined
number of 15 participants would generally point to an influx of disputational and topic-shifting
talk throughout. However, as indicated by moves of exploration (53) and agreement (12)
compared to those of dispute (65), the utterances delivered were closely even. Dominant-
speakers here broke traditions established by Dialogues 1-5 whereby our lead-speakers initiated
argumentation more so than they did exploration. In fact, five of nine dominant-speakers during
Dialogue 7 offered more moves of exploration than of dispute. The only previous dialogue in
which lead-speaker explorations eclipsed those made during Dialogue 7 was within Dialogue 6.
Visually, a depiction of Dialogue 7 is presented by the coding indicator in Table 14.
Table 14
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 7 – Classical Fiction: “The Tell-Tale Heart”
Participant Explorations Disputes Agree Passes
Calvin POS/ID/POS/POS/POS/ID RE/TS/AR/RB/RE/TS/AR/NR/NR/
RB/AR 1 0
Elizabeth POS/CR/POS/CR/DQ/RR/ID RE/RE/AR/TS/RB 0 0
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Becca POS/POS RE 2 0
Shannon POS/POS/ID/DQ/RR/ID/DQ RE/TS/RE/AR/RE 3 0
Mallory ID/ID/CR/POS/ID/IQ/IQ/RR/CR/RR NR/RE/TS/AR/AR 1 0
Kathy POS RE/TS 1 0
Aaron C. ID/CR/ID/CR RE/NR/TS/TS/RE/AR/TS/NR/TS 1 0
Piper POS/POS TS/RE/TS/RE/TS 0 0
Kasey AQ/RR/DQ/IQ RE/RE/AR/TS 0 0
Niles RE/TS 1 0
Michelle ID/POS/ID/RR RE/NR/NR/NR/NR 0 0
Marcus ID/POS RE/NR/RE/TS/NR 2 0
William POS RE/NR/TS 0 0
Ana 0 1
Trevor RR 0 1
Everett RR 0 1
Cindy TS 0 0
April POS RE/NR 0 0
15 speakers 53 65 12 3
Facilitator moves: Procedural moves – 8; Substantial moves – 12
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Explorations provided during Dialogue 7 were more devoid of statements of position
(POS) than in any dialogue prior. Eighteen of 53 moves (34%) were delivered as positions (POS)
that materialized as answers to exploratory questions – whether as restatements of the main
question or as inquiries made in solicitation of reasoning. A reason for a lower percentage of
position statements delivered during Dialogue 7 was a rise in the number of overall exploratory
questions offered by participants. Nineteen of 53 utterances (36%) were queries posed to solicit
reasoning from another class member. Even the percentage of questions posed in our most
exploratory talk to date, Dialogue 6, was slightly lower (30%) than it was in Dialogue 7. An
indication from Table 14 suggests that an accumulation of these participant questions contributed
to a rise overall in that percentage. Seemingly, consistent inquiries from Elizabeth, Mallory, and
Kasey aided the exploration process by questioning others. These three participants combined
delivered 14 of 19 questions of exploration. Mallory emerged as the most inquisitive of our
participants during Dialogue 7. She alone contributed 6 of 19 total questions of exploration. The
following excerpt provides a glimpse of Mallory’s inquiry method. In a Socratic way, she
deconstructs Michelle’s position with questions prompting logical consideration:
Mr. Herr: According to you, Michelle, what does the narrator do that makes him
crazy or not? I don’t recall what you said when you first spoke; did you feel like he
was more clever or crazy; was it a combination of both? I don’t remember.
Michelle: I think he was more clever.
Mr. Herr: And what was your main point to make that be correct?
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Michelle: It’s like he killed a man for his eye, and he hid him under the floor; that
was clever. And then he confesses to get away from the eye because he was clever.
Well, it doesn’t say that, but that’s what I assume.
Mallory: So you’re saying that he’s clever when he confesses?
Michelle: Yeah, because he doesn’t like the eye, so why would he stay in the same
house?
Mallory: So he’s clever so he could get arrested for killing a man so he could get
away from his eye?
Michelle: Yeah.
Mallory: That’s interesting.
Also noteworthy in regard to the influx of questions posed during Dialogue 7, as well as during
all six previous talks, was a revelation that boys contributed little in the way of exploratory
inquiry. In fact, during Dialogue 7 the only boy to deliver a single question for exploration was
Aaron C., and he provided just two moves of inquiry. Even at that, Aaron’s inquiries elicited
lower level reasoning since both were delivered as clarification/restatements (CR). In many
instances, clarifications only elicited a repeat of previous thoughts and did not necessarily lead to
further exploration. As underlined by the following exchange, Aaron’s clarification request
produced a slight shift off-topic:
Aaron C.: Okay. So, sorry, I didn’t hear you all the way because I was coughing. You
said that if the old man was his father, he could have beat him when he was a kid? Is
that what you said?
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Elizabeth: Yeah, or maybe it could be anybody but –
Aaron: I just wanted to know what you said. Um, Calvin.
Likewise, according to the results of the six previous dialogues, boys never contributed more
than four inquiries to any one discourse. Also, it should be noted that within Dialogue 7, of the
15 speakers, only five were boys. Furthermore, no more than 9 of 11 boys had joined in in any
one of the previous six dialogues.
Disputes, as coded and visible in Table 14, contributed to half of the total moves offered
during Dialogue 7 (65 of 130). While disregards for the previous speaker occurred most often,
attributing to 22 of the 65 Disputes, initiations of argumentation (AR) only happened nine times
(14%) throughout the talk. However, topic-shifts (TS) and an absence of reasoning (NR)
occurred with greater frequency during Dialogue 7. Reasons for an influx in absence of
reasoning moves (NR) can be attributed to a greater combined frequency of student and
facilitator questions delivered in attempts to trigger reasoning. Serving as a cue for inquiry, 13
moves representing an absence of reasoning (NR) led questioners many times to ask “why,”
enticing more chances for exploration – as seen in the previous exchange with Mallory and
Michelle.
Topic-shifts (TS) attributed to 28% of all dispute-moves coded within Dialogue 7. Many
times the evolution of a topic-shift (TS) occurred as an expression of an inward anecdote or
analogy that many times had only remote ties to the flow of the dialogue or the topic of
discussion. In relationship to Dialogue 7, topic-shifts (TS) materialized in lieu of answering
whether or not the narrator of “The Tell-Tale Heart” was crazy or clever. Because of their
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associations to students’ personal reality, topic-shifts (TS) enticed others to comment, causing a
drift from topical inquiry and exploration:
Aaron C.: Okay, so if you’re not insane, nobody’s completely sane. Everybody has
moments where they’re stressed or whatever. They have a lot of things to do, and
they go crazy for that year or so. Like I got a lizard recently – a few weeks ago, and I
just have to spend a lot of time taking care of it, so like, yep. Mallory.
Mallory: Okay, when you say it makes you crazy, do you mean crazy like it bugs you
or like actually mentally insane?
Aaron: Not mentally insane, like stressed and then I’m like stressed kind of crazy.
Mallory: I think the kind of crazy we’re talking about here is like mentally insane.
Not like lizard stress.
Aaron: It’s like I have like tons of homework to do, and it’s like the very next day and
–
Mallory: That’s stress.
Kasey: Your boss just fired you.
Mr. Herr: Mallory, you have the floor, so when you’re finished, you can call on the
next. Okay, Kasey were you – okay, Piper.
Piper: I would like to say that no one is technically normal. Everyone is abnormal, so
that makes us all normal for being abnormal. So, technically, there is no normal. And
also when you say things to yourself that put you down, your brain makes you think it
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more. So that’s why whenever people like talk good about yourself, they want you to
talk good about yourself because your brain will let you think like that a bit more.
Within the previous exchange, while Mallory did provide on-task inquiry early, the topic shifted
thereafter, and even she contributed to the drift initiated by Aaron and kept constant by Kasey
and Piper.
Cumulative talk in the form of agreements was also delivered more in Dialogue 7 than in
the five previous dialogues. The 12 agreements offered during Dialogue 7 were consistently
expressed by speakers who attached other moves, either exploratory or disputational, in front or
behind their agreements. Seemingly, this consistent occurrence represented interpersonal aspects
of caring. In several instances, participants offered an agreement to another speaker before he or
she, in turn, delivered a position, a deduction, or an inquiry of their own. Cumulative talk here
seemed to aid students as a springboard. Often participants would supply an addition to the ideas
of another because of the triggering aspects of the previous thoughts. In this sense, thinking
through ideas out loud provided a foundation for the development of deeper individual
exploration during Dialogue 7. During the following exchange, Becca and Shannon use the ideas
of Calvin and Elizabeth, respectively, as a prompt to add their own exploratory positions.
Mallory, in acknowledgement of previous speaker Shannon, delivers an agreement to Shannon’s
position and then offers a logical deduction in exploration:
Calvin: Okay, so I’m assuming that he was kind of mad. No one in their right mind is
going to murder someone because of their eye. Who does that? Uh, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: I would say that he is crazy and clever because if you think about it, he was
crazy because he was disturbed by his eye, but he’s clever because he covered up all
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his steps and he just lost it in the end. He would have it though I think if he wouldn’t
have said anything. Becca.
Becca: I think he had details of both because he was mad because he killed somebody
because of their eye which is what Calvin said. And he was clever ‘cause he had a
plot – he had what he was going to do lined up until something went wrong. So he
acted on instinct which caused him to kill the old man. If the old man was asleep he
wouldn’t have died. Shannon.
Shannon: I think the narrator’s crazy because yes he covered up his steps but in the
very end when he lost it, he gave himself away. If he was clever, wouldn’t he have
been able to discern his own heart from the old man’s? Um, Mallory.
Mallory: Yeah, I agree with Shannon because like a clever person would know that if
dead people – you probably can’t hear a dead person’s heartbeat because their dead.
They don’t have a heartbeat. But earlier he was pretty clever when he kind of – he
kind of planned it out. He was all – he hid his feelings about it and he was careful,
really stealthy kind of.
An absence of vocal participants was indicated in Dialogue 7. As was mentioned, only 5
of 11 boys in the class joined in aloud. Mallory posed a theory as to why:
Some of the guys in our class are kind of quiet. It was a lot of people calling on their
friends and some people spoke a lot of times too. Some of the boys who didn’t talk
are the same ones who join in to other dialogues. Some probably just don’t like the
question or just don’t like joining a dialogue.
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Ron suggested that his silence was due to a disregard from others:
Well I raised my hand like three times, but just no one called on me. Yes, that’s a
problem. People need to look around and do what you usually do.
However, Aaron W.’s reason for not engaging was related to different circumstances:
I kept getting kind of nervous right before I’d decide to talk, so I like kind of raised
my hand and just drop it back down. I have been nervous before in other dialogues as
well. I feel like I’m nervous every time. When I do talk, I think about what I said and
try to improve on it. Like if I said something silly --
Mallory suggested that the lack of participation was due to an issue in following one of the 12
ground-rules:
People got their ideas out, but we didn’t call on everyone. Ground rule #2 states that
everyone participates, and we didn’t follow that one very well. Everyone didn’t
participate.
Although Dialogue 7 could initially be defined by a lack of full participation, with 15 of
25 students joining in vocally, the total number of moves made (130) and the comparable
evenness of explorations/agreements-to-disputes indicated that dynamics of the talk were more
diverse than originally assumed. During a post-talk interview Mallory and Aaron W. perhaps
summed up the diverse dynamics present within Dialogue 7:
Mallory: There was definitely some exploration. We talked about the different sides
to his personality if you will. There was definitely some argument; people said he was
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crazy and that he wasn’t clever and there some agreements. Probably more agreement
more than any other.
Aaron W.: We did fairly well. There weren’t people shouting out ‘I disagree!’
Something that usually happens. People were presenting the ideas, and when people
usually disagreed, they were reasonable.
Based on indications from the post-dialogue Likert survey, students rated Dialogue 7’s
question higher than any other prior talk. The mean score established, on the 5-point scale, was a
3.9. Seven students gave the question, “The narrator: crazy or clever?” a top rating of 5.0.
However, only one student, on the exit survey, considered the question as the best overall of the
14 observed for this study.
Class Dialogue 8 – October 30, 2014: Factual Narrative - “The Night the Bed Fell”
(29:19).
Dialogue 8 brought forth a positive level of whole-class agreement-talk combined with
major sequences of off-topic utterances. These dynamics materialized from a talk about a non-
controversial, anecdotal memoir by author, James Thurber, entitled “The Night the Bed Fell”
(2011). Thurber’s tale is a flashback-narrative detailing a night in the life of his own childhood.
Set in rural Indiana, “The Night the Bed Fell” tells of an incident in Thurber’s youth whereby a
chain reaction of hilarious events stems entirely from a phobic, unwarranted presumption of
Thurber’s mother. The plot starts with Thurber explaining his “interesting” family. His family
includes a cousin, who thinks he will die of suffocation during sleep, a grandfather who leaves
the house for days at a time, and an aunt who thinks that a perpetual burglar is plotting to release
chloroform under her bedroom door so as make her easy to rob. When Thurber falls out of his
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cot and his mother mistakes the crash for his father falling to his death through the attic,
presumptions lead to chaos in the Thurber house. The narrator’s brother at that point thinks that
the mother has become hysterical and so yells out that she is alright. Shouts from the brother
startle awake the paranoid first cousin who thinks that the noise is a ruckus over his ceasing
breath. He promptly pours over himself a glass of camphor spirits to revive himself. At that
point, the deep-sleeping father wakes up thinking that the house is on fire. When he yells out that
he is coming, his wife thinks that he is preparing to go up to heaven.
Only one question was submitted ahead of time into Edmodo®: Six were posed by
students before the dialogue and two by me as facilitator. Ultimately, Question 2 (What is up
with this family and phobias?) received 9 votes and became our Thinking Out Loud question for
Dialogue 8. However, the submitted question receiving the second most votes (Do too many
people behave foolishly over imagined terrors?), with eight votes, was also discussed. Because
students reached a total class agreement in regard to the initial question within 10 minutes of the
talk, a second question was entered for discourse. The engagement duration for the combined
questions totaled 29:19.
Our ground-rules review was not lengthy prior to Dialogue 8. I only focused my attention
on an alternative outlook concerning ground-rule 6: Ideas may be challenged. In most cases,
students had understood the rule to mean that arguments are accepted and expected. However, I
continued to point out that if exploration as a community was our goal, than challenging ideas
could take on another form: questioning to elicit deeper reasoned opinions. I then purposely
played a Youtube® video clip detailing what I explained was the beginning point of Thinking
Out Loud – a summary of the life of Socrates. A central theme of the clip indicated Socrates’
position whereby only through a deliverance of questions upon questions could a person achieve
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wisdom. I was hoping that the idea of question-posing would serve as a revelation to the
participants – especially to members of our male gender who rarely inquired to explore. It was
not to be so.
Dialogue 8 would not be defined as an exercise thick with participant questions. In fact,
only two student questions were posed throughout the whole talk. What would come to define
Dialogue 8 was steady offerings of personal anecdotes and shifts off-topic. Our main question
seemed to make shallow explorations possible. The solicitation of reasoning through the lead
stem of “what” had been shown in this study to cause participants many times to stop short of
engaging in critical thought. In that sense (and in reality), Dialogue 8 was destined to be either
mired in dispute or to be drowned by the echoes of cumulative agreement. Consistent moves
toward exploration were scant. The reality was that the dialogue neither incited argumentation
nor sparked sequences of agreement talk. Neither the topic-question constructed and chosen nor
the plot of the story itself could serve as catalysts to incite critical discussion during Dialogue 8.
Dialogue 8 turned Thinking Out Loud inwardly and prompted participants to deliver anecdotes
of their own realities – without the critical substance of reasoning or a regard for the ideas of
others.
The only ideas presented early in the talk proved to be position statements indicating that
the fears in the family from the story were due to exposure to previous like-experiences, TV
viewing, and reading. Answers to the question stems, “how” and “why” were not part of the
make-up of deliveries during the early stage of Dialogue 8. A pivotal point during the talk
occurred within the first two minutes of conversation when Becca shifted the direction of the
dialogue. She seemed intrigued by the idea of knowing various phobias that others might have
and proposed to the class that if they shared their own fears and how they materialized, it might
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help to better reason through the main question: What is it with this family and phobias? Much
of the utterances that followed were in response to Becca’s topic shift:
Becca: Um, I bet most people in this room have some fear. And if you think of the
way that you got that fear, it could help us with this dialogue. So, if you could share
with us how you got that fear it would help us. Maria.
As a conscientious facilitator who allowed a topic shift to initiate exploration, I was not quick to
quash what seemingly became an anecdotal exercise in “truth-or-dare.” I was, however, mindful
to document and code transcripts in accordance to Becca’s inquiry. In essence, participants were
only complete in offering position explorations when they delivered how they obtained the fear
mentioned. Anecdotal utterances, as per Reed (1992), have been shown to drift critical
conversations steadily away from exploration, and during several offerings, talk became focused
on mere acknowledgement and not on reasoning. During the upcoming exchange, Shannon
seemed intent with telling a humorous story and Becca took the opportunity to project a quality
about her personality. Neither of the two moves seemed to concisely target the specifications of
Becca’s shift-inquiry and so were coded as additional shifts in topic (TS). Both utterances lacked
an element of reasoning in which Becca initially asked.
Shannon: I’ll share one of my fears: I’m afraid of cooked chicken. It’s really stupid
but um whenever I eat a chicken leg or something with a chicken bone in it, like if I
break one of their bones or if I chew on the bone, a whole flock of chickens will come
after me. I imagine it’s like humans if cannibals were around. I can’t think of
anything else. Mr. Herr.
Mr. Herr: I don’t think I was next. I’ll call on Becca; maybe I’ll go after her.
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Becca: I’ll share one of my most largest fears that I have is dying without leaving a
mark on the world because if I die today, and nobody remembers me, I’ll feel like I
was on earth for no reason at all. But if I die and I made a mark on everybody, I’ll
feel like I had a purpose for living. Mr. Herr.
Mr. Herr: I’m enjoying hearing about your great fears. I do think that if you’re going
to tell a story of your great fears, that you try to tie it in to how it could relate to this
family from the story and what’s going on with their feelings. While it’s cool to hear
of your fears, let’s see if it can lead somewhere to our question being answered. Um,
I’ll call on Aaron.
Following the topic shift, Dialogue 8 progressed toward agreement. Exploration was concluded
once the three ideas of experience, TV viewing, and the reading of scary material were provided.
Several students, on their post-dialogue surveys, indicated that they did not attempt to seek
wisdom but that they only agreed with what was said. Kasey, during a post-talk interview,
suggested that the main topic question led to more cumulative talk than exploratory or
disputational:
I don’t think people were really exploring because it was an easy topic to explore. It
was a simple question that had a simple answer. We were all really bored except
when we started talking about our phobias. And everyone wants to talk about
themselves.
In coding the narrative produced during Dialogue 8, important to note was a spike in the
number of chances participants took in disregard of thoughts of previous speakers (29 of 65
moves). Disregard (RE) here registered at 45% of all dispute moves, the highest level since were
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delivered in Dialogue 2. Such disregard resulted mainly from Becca’s prompt, eliciting talk
centered on selfish aims. In this sense, participants joining in to Dialogue 8 possessed an
ambition to focus the discourse inwardly – eager to state individual fears in anticipation of the
attention vocalizing such a fear might bring. When this topic-shift occurred, caring regard and
exploration of others’ ideas gave way to a rush toward making personal claims. In all,
disputational talk accounted for 65 of the 107 total moves issued during Dialogue 8.
Argumentation (AR) also registered lower than in many previous dialogues (10 of 65 moves) due
to the selfish nature of responses delivered once Becca shifted to focus away from the original
question. Argumentation (AR) actually rose once class agreement was sought and reached and
our secondary topic question came to prompt responses. The second question (Do too many
people behave foolishly over imagined terrors?) logically prompted differing responses from the
first because of its elicitation of either/or replies. Participants during the second part of the
dialogue were prompted to choose a side. This general solicitation tends to engage a greater level
of argumentation than do prompts that ask “what is going on with this family?” Table 15
designates the discourse codes consistent with a talk defined by selfish aims.
Table 15
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 8 – Factual Narrative: “The Night the Bed Fell”
Participant Explorations Disputes Agree Passes
Becca RR/POS/POS TS/RE/TS/RE/AR/CA/RE/TS/RE/TS/RE/TS/AR 0 0
Mallory POS/DQ/ID/ID RE/RE/TS 0 0
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Aaron C. POS/RR/ID/ID TS/TS/NR/CA 1 1
Jamie POS/POS/POS/POS RE/RE 0 0
Marcus POS/ID AR/RE/NR/RB/RB/RE/RB 0 0
Trevor 0 1
Audrey RE 1 1
Maria 0 1
Piper POS/AQ AR/AR 0 0
Elizabeth POS/ID/RR RE 2 1
Shannon POS/POS RE/AR/RE/NR/RE/AR 0 0
Cindy POS/POS RE/NR 1 0
April POS TS 0 1
Kathy POS/ID RE/TS/NR/NR/RE/NR/RE 2 0
Kasey POS/ID/POS RE/RE/TS/RE/AR/RE/TS 0 0
William POS RE 0 0
Niles ID/POS RE/NR/RE/AR/TS 0 0
Javier RE/NR 0 0
Aaron W. 0 1
Michelle RE/AR 0 0
17 participants 35 65 7 7
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections – 7; Substantial interjections – 6
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However, for a talk that was (for a significant amount of time) centralized on getting students to
join in without being critical, the total number who did engage vocally was 17 of 24 (Calvin was
absent). Three students passed altogether on speaking and four students were not called upon or
chose not to raise a hand to be considered for engaging. Somewhat surprising was that four vocal
participants chose to pass at various points before or after they had joined in the discourse.
As was alluded to earlier, speaking on-topic and providing reasoning for claims was a
challenge once the gist of the main question was shifted. Twelve topic-shifts (TS) and 9 non-
reasoned responses (NR) were delivered – most often during the first half of Dialogue 8 when
the main question was abandoned. Participants in some instances found it easier to deliver
anecdotal stories that were loosely tied with the “fears” spoken by previous speakers. Yet once a
story was delivered, the participant was never able to either regain topic-focus or relate his or her
response back to Becca’s new question. In a notable sequence once the dialogue has transitioned
to its second half, participants were still joining in to respond back to Becca’s initial request for
fear sharing. The following sequence indicates the re-emerging of Becca’s topic – re-initiated by
Becca:
Becca: I have something that’s a little bit weird so please don’t laugh at it. Say
somebody had a pairs of ostriches and when I was five years old, I had a terrible
experience with ostriches. It bit me and it permanently bent my right index finger and
I was bleeding and everything like that all bloody and gory and everything. And now
I love ostriches. I mean sometimes not all fears are established with what happens and
when Niles was talking about his dad and a dog. He was bit in the face by a Mastic,
right here, and if it was two inches over it could have killed him. And he loves dogs.
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He still does. Personal experience might not always cause fears but most of the time
they do. April.
April: I’m going to add to that. I’m thinking that when people have fears like that and
they are still liking – like if they got bit by a dog and they still like dogs, I’m thinking
because some dogs are different than others and some dogs are not nice because
where they get it from – from their owners are something. So they just have different
causes of what they so their – Marcus.
Marcus: I’m going to have to disagree with Piper because sometimes you don’t
experience a fear like I’ve never gotten shot before by a gun, but I’m still afraid of it.
I mean you can still – sometimes you don’t experience your fears. Um, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Pass. Aaron W.
Aaron W.: Pass. Aaron.
Aaron C.: Okay, I’m also disagreeing with Piper --
Piper: Here we go.
Aaron C.: -- because I’m afraid of getting murdered but by a clown. I can’t
experience that unless I’m murdered by a clown and which is I’m dead. So, you
know, Michelle.
Here, in the last exchange, only April provided an exploratory position in response to the topic
question at hand: Do too many people behave foolishly over imagined terrors? Marcus, Aaron
C., and Piper choose to stay engaged with Becca’s off-topic utterance – never questioning
whether or not their speech was leading away from the topic.
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Explorations, as indicated by Table 15, materialized as position statements 21 of 35
moves) more than any other offering (60%). Nine deduction utterances (26% of Explorations)
were delivered by seven different participants – eight of which were spoken during the second
half of the talk. This occurrence seemed evident that more real-time thinking out loud was
present in discussion of the either/or prompt of Dialogue 8. Absent, as might have been dictated
by the prompts discussed, was the advent of exploratory questions of inquiry. Only three
questions were delivered throughout the entire talk – all three uttered during the time of
responses to the second-half prompt. Also interesting to note was that, once again, boys
provided only exploratory statements of position or deductions of logic. All three inquiry
questions were offered by girls.
Within the post-dialogue interviews, Kasey and Piper best summarized Dialogue 8:
Kasey: Well, we sort of went to our own phobias to see like how they got their
phobias. But we really weren’t talking about the family; we were talking about
ourselves. It was a difficult story to create questions for. There wasn’t a lot to talk
about.
Piper: I think there is better stories. For the most part it was alright because it helped
us to talk about our fears and that was good.
Indications from the post-dialogue Likert survey did not prove favorable in terms of a mean
rating on a 5-point scale. Dialogue 8 received a total of 69 points of a possible 100 and averaged
2.8 on the 5-point scale – registering slightly lower (points-wise) than Dialogue 6. The initial
main question did however receive two overall 5s of 25 surveys. Calvin, who was absent during
the talk and Cindy both rated the question with the highest possible mark. None of the 25
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students chose the main question from Dialogue 8 as the best overall question of 14 total
discussion questions observed by this study.
Class Dialogue 9 – November 7, 2014: Non-Textually Generated Topic (41:13).
Dialogue 9 materialized as a discourse of greater interest. Time spend talking registered
longer than any of this study’s Thinking Out Loud dialogues. At 41:13 minutes, Dialogue 9
elicited 165 participant moves – more than any one of our 14 observed talks. Twenty-one of 25
students participated, while 17 participants delivered three or more moves during Dialogue 9.
Registered facilitator moves were more frequent during Dialogue 9 as well. I joined in
procedurally 27 times and substantially 11 times.
The influx of moves offered within Dialogue 9 was partially a result of the interest
caused by our third non-textually generated question: Should we kill animals? This question for
discourse emerged, not from a text, but from a prompting on our classes’ social learning website,
Edmodo®. Three days prior to our talk, I solicited questions from our class in which to vote.
Voting totals were close: “Should we kill animals?” received 13 student votes while “Why do we
have a uniform policy?” received 12 votes. Seven other student-generated questions received
between 4 and 10 votes. Our winning prompt, however, was the only question not submitted by a
student. As the provider of Dialogue 9’s question, I kept silent about its origins. I would have
abstained from submitting it to Edmodo®, yet on the evening before, there were posted only two
other questions for consideration. I felt that our class needed more in the way of choice, so I
posted the question that eventually won the vote. I would have accepted a winning outcome
produced by another of the eight questions just as well.
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Ground-rules were reviewed before the commencement of Dialogue 9 with the intention
of urging our more dominant speakers to be more mindful to involve others who were not joining
in regularly or who were trying to join in but who had been denied. I pointed out that during
Dialogue 7, Ron had tried to engage on three different occasions, only to be overlooked or
denied by our more secure and dominant speakers. I indicated that in order for the class to
practice the message of ground-rule 10 (Share all ideas and information you have.), the group as
a whole would have to be more considerate toward trying to involve a larger population of
speakers. I also pointed out that during the past two talks only 15 and 17 participants,
respectively, joined the conversations. I ended the review by urging our lead speakers to be more
aware of their time with “keeping the floor” and to relinquish control quicker than usual. I
indicated that more precise moves from the dominant group might help to keep less-involved
hand-raisers from giving up on being called-on.
As the first to initiate talk from participants, I looked for hand-raisers from the less-
dominant group and called on Ron to open Dialogue 9. Ron delivered a position statement but
immediately gave the floor to Calvin, who began a topic-shifting rebuttal to an argument which
was yet uttered. The talk progressed from there with passionate responses, producing sequences
of exploration only to be disputed after a minute or two. The main question elicited side-taking,
and student argumentation/rebuttal moves were interjected frequently, requiring me, as
facilitator, to direct the talk at regular intervals according to the civility kept by adhering to our
ground-rules. Our lead-speakers, once steadily engaged into the dialogue, aligned their position
to the question about the morality of killing animals according to gender and kinship.
An interesting dynamic emerged as lead-speakers took control of Dialogue 9. The boys
(Calvin, Marcus, Aaron C., Niles, and Javier) positioned themselves along the opinionated lines
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that the death of animals resulted in benefits to humans: food, clothing, furniture, and
conservation. Lead-speakers Becca, Shannon, and Piper on the other hand, supported the idea
that killing animals for human benefit alone was not morally right. Obvious argumentation
emerged between the two factions, but aside from the expected volleying of disputes from these
groups, a curious dynamic arose between factions of dominant-speaking girls. It was becoming
clearer, especially during dialogues in which the main question elicited a taking of sides, that
automatic disputes were being contrived. In Dialogue 9 it became apparent that the alignment of
ideas, for girls, was divided according to friendships. If Becca, Shannon, and Piper took a
“dovish” approach to the killing of animals, Kathy, Elizabeth, and Jamie would take a more
hard-line, “boyish” approach to the topic. In fact, it was noted that Kathy, Elizabeth, and Jamie
were consistently showing more engagement disputes, and it was becoming evident that their
disputes had specific targets: Becca, Shannon, and Piper. Iterative support for this assumption
was validated by this study’s exit survey. Students were asked to indicate the numbers of years in
which they had each attended CKA and who their best friends were in the class. Confirming
assumptions, all six of these dominant-speaking girls listed the others from their faction as best
friends – Kathy even going so far as to mention that the order of her listing (Elizabeth and then
Jamie) was in no way indicative of the closeness of her friendships with the others. A narrative
exchange indicating the emergence of this faction-dispute is apparent from the following:
Jamie: I wanted to disagree with you, Shannon because like Aaron said, you’re not
going to kill humans for meat. And I wanted to disagree with you, Becca because
animals – I don’t know if this is true or not, but my opinion is I don’t think animals
have feelings.
Piper: Oh, hello.
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Jamie: Because if it has like a child and it will kill it – you’re using it for the better.
Piper.
Piper: I just want to say that I think animals do have feelings. So, don’t go down that
avenue. About this topic, animals should not be killed as much as they are today. You
have to agree that we do kill a lot of animals for their meat and sometimes we kill
them for fun which I find very interesting I guess because killing is fun to people?
Um, but, I just want to say that there is animals in shelters like Mallory said – that’s
there’s animals in shelters that don’t deserve to die. So, I just wanted to say that.
Becca.
Becca: Uh, what Shannon said about if we use – wait, give me a second. If we use
animals for our help shouldn’t we help the animals? And I’m going to go back to
what Jamie said.
Mr. Herr: Are you wanting the class to answer that question or are you continuing on?
Becca: Both, but I want to continue on –
Mr. Herr: I hope the class will remember it.
Aaron C.: What was your question?
Mr. Herr: Well, maybe she’ll rephrase it when she’s done.
Becca: Okay, um, Jamie, I think you mentioned this, but I can’t be sure: You don’t
eat pork, right? Well, in some cultures you don’t eat pork; in some cultures you don’t
eat beef, everything like that. Well, if you don’t eat pork or some maybe your
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stomach is immune to it or – why do you need to eat other animals when you can get
the same amount of protein from beans, legumes, and watermelon even?
Jamie: I mean what if you’re like allergic or something? What are going to do then?
Becca: Well there is – I have something to say about that. My grandfather is allergic
to quite a bit of fruits and vegetables and he barely eats any meat like minimal
amount as possible, and he still is able to survive that way and he’s 78 and he’s done
that for the past 20 years.
Mr. Herr: Call on someone please.
Becca: Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Um, what I was going say is you have to think back to all the way back to
when people first started and all that people could think of to eat was animals because
they needed fur – even nowadays we still need animal fur. I mean it’s sort of a waste
to put away all that meat and you know get our protein off of.
Mr. Herr: Are you saying that humans have not advanced themselves in 10,000
years?
Elizabeth: Well no, they have but you got to think like, I don’t know, you could put
fur coats for winter. Shannon.
Shannon: Okay, Jamie, I’m going back to what you said about animals not having
feelings. They have feelings because they feel love and affection; they are protective
of their children. If you try to take the children of a parent, one of them will kill you.
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When I said that we should kill people, I didn’t mean that. I said it as an analogy; we
might as will be killing people; they are just as important. Marcus.
The exchanges between the factions in the previous selection show an alignment rooted in
friendships more so than in personal beliefs. Argumentative interactions between Jamie and
Piper and then Becca and Jamie became procedurally diffused, especially with the insertion of an
on-topic position statement by Elizabeth, yet through a disregard for her thoughts by Shannon,
disputation was again foisted into the talk. While the members of these dominant factions
accounted for 14 total moves of exploration during Dialogue 9, they delivered many more moves
in the way of disputation talk (41) – 12 of which were coded to be lack of acknowledgements
toward previous speakers. Table 16 details the coding breakdown present in Dialogue 9. Within
the Disputes column, two new codes materialized: PQ = personal question and SD = simple
disagreement without reasoning.
Table 16
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 9 – Non-Textually Generated Topic #3
Participants Explorations Disputes Agree Pass
Ron POS/DQ TS/AR/RE/AR/AR 0 0
Calvin POS/ID/RR/DQ/IQ/IQ/POS/POS RB/TS/RB/RB/RB/RB/RB/AR/PQ/RE/AR
AR/AR/AR 0 0
Marcus DQ/DQ/IQ/POS/POS CA/PQ/AR/RE/SD/RE/TS/AR 2 0
Piper CR/IQ/POS TS/CA/RE/TS/TS/RB/RE/TS 1 0
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Mallory AQ/ID/RR/IQ/DQ/ID/ID RE 1 0
Kathy POS/POS/POS/POS/RR RE/RE/RB/NR/NR/NR/NR 2 0
Ana DQ 0 1
Many voices TS 0 0
Becca IQ/POS/POS AR/RE/AR/TS/TS/RE/TS/PQ/AR/RE/AR
AR 1 0
Shannon POS/IQ/IQ RE/AR/RE/AR/RE/AR 0 0
Elizabeth POS/POS RE/NR 0 0
Kasey RE/TS/NR/RE/TS/TS 0 0
Javier POS/IQ RE/RE/AR 3 0
Aaron C. POS/ID/CR AR/RB/RE/AR 2 0
Niles ID/POS/POS RE/NR 1 0
William RE/NR 0 0
Everett POS RE 0 0
Jamie DQ TS/RE/RB/RB/RB/RB 1 0
Maria POS/IQ RE/AR/TS 1 0
April NR 0 0
Aaron W. POS RE/NR 1 0
Michelle 0 1
Tripp 0 1
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Audrey RE 1 0
21 speakers 53 95 17 3
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections – 27; Substantial interjections – 11
While Disputes dominated the forum of Dialogue 9, cumulative agreements were also
delivered with greater frequency. The 17 moves coded Agree were the most since Dialogue 1 (18
moves). Possible contributions to the rise in number of Agree moves was solicited through the
syntax used by the main prompt. The question, “Should we kill animals?”, not only prompted
participants to take one of two obvious sides, but, since variations of response options were
reduced, students engaging tended to utter more moves in agreement with a previous speaker –
whether purposely or not. Furthermore, as explained before, factious alignments, whether with
girls or boys, created a more cumulative thread in which to speak likeminded thoughts. The
seemingly volatile nature of our question perhaps also prompted more participants to join the
discourse. Twenty-one of 25 possible participants joined vocally while two passed altogether,
leaving only two other students (Cindy and Trevor) who were neither asked nor volunteered to
engage. It was in fact during our last student/teacher-generated talk (Dialogue 5) that more than
20 students chanced to talk on topic. During Dialogue 5 (“Which school is better, TLA or
CKA?”) 22 participants joined. Noticeably, the syntax used in Dialogue 5 also prompted
participants to choose in a limited, either/or manner.
Close examination of the codes attributed to Dialogue 9 reveals an interesting rise in the
numbers of inquiries (AQ, DQ, IQ, CR, RR) made by boys in the class. Of 23 total questions
posed by participants, 10 were offered by five different boys. Calvin, whose last inquiry was
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during Dialogue 1 (a clarification/restatement question), posed four questions in Dialogue 9.
Other than simply asking a request for reasoning (RR), Calvin also engaged with three more
critically eliciting queries: one divergent question (DQ) and two information questions (IQ).
Other than Dialogues 3 and 5, boys in class had yet to contribute more than three total questions
within a single discourse. Questions posed as a whole during Dialogue 9 were frequently deeper
than in dialogues prior. Seventeen of 23 inquiries made were either divergent (DQ), assessment
(AQ), or information queries (IQ). Of all talks previous coded, only Dialogue 6 achieved double-
digits in critical questions with 10 total. While position statements (POS) accounted for 23 of 53
total Explorations, at 43%, that percentage was not as overriding as it had been in past dialogues.
However, missing from Dialogue 9 were lengthy exchanges of exploration. The topic proved too
explosive to maintain a steady thread of exploratory utterances. As has been analyzed, the
presence of gender views and factious alliances were too divisive among lead-speakers to be
infiltrated by sparse members of the more exploratory minorities in class (namely Mallory). The
following selection is indicative of how exploratory intensions were soon collapsed by topic-
shifts, arguments, and rebuttals:
Marcus: Okay, so going back what Calvin said about animals eating other animals,
okay. So they’re going to die, so why can’t we have their resources? I mean, what’s
the point? They’re going to kill off each other, right? You just said –
Calvin: No, they’re not going to kill off each other just they’re going to keep each
other in balanced and population.
Marcus: But how would they do that?
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Calvin: By – the grass is not going to grow too much because the deers are going to
be eating the grass. So they’re going to keep the grass in check. The lions are going to
keep the deer in check ‘cause they’re going to be eating the deers and they won’t go
overpopulated.
Marcus: Exactly, so why can’t we use some of their resources?
Calvin: You want to eat lion?
Marcus: No.
Mr. Herr: I’d like to interrupt you. It seems that some of you when obtaining the floor
to speak, will ask questions – which I admire you for that, but you tend to be asking
questions to some of the same people who have engaged in the dialogue over and
over and continue to say the same things. I urge you to check out number eight,
please. Marcus, take an attempt to call on somebody else. Perhaps somebody who
hasn’t joined us very much.
Marcus: Everett.
Everett: I think animals give us more a dependable food source.
Many: (gasping, laughing, and clapping for Everett – not for the content of what he
said, but for the reason that he spoke out)
Mr. Herr: Students, if you’re going to make a huge deal out of this, then it’s probably
going to be an embarrassment to people who join in, so I don’t understand why you
have to continue to go on with your clapping and other forms of congratulation.
Everett, was there more you wanted to add?
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Everett: No. Uh, Becca.
Becca: Okay, yea, I finally got called on. Um, I had something to say about the topic.
I think some people can take a different perspective if they are going to be the
animals.
Jamie: Did you hear her? (Laughing audibly)
Becca: If you could take this from your perspective, only one person in this room can
that I know of. The death of a chicken – I had two chicken at home; I would be
heartbroken if one of them were to die because we murdered him. I would not want
that to happen at all to one of my chickens and we use their resources and they help
us with other things. They eat all the fleas and ticks in our backyard. And they help
my dog also to not have any kind of parasites left. They help us and we help them by
giving them a place to live and stay. And if we’re just going to go along and kill them
because we need their help now to feed us. I don’t think that’s right because their life
wasn’t done yet. If your life is close to being done or if you’re suffering a lot, for the
past three or four month and there’s no way to help them at all –
Mr. Herr: Okay, I think you should call on the next.
Becca: Uh, Maria.
Maria: Well, I think that at some point, we should kill animals, but not as much as we
kill them today. How many people in the world do eat a lot of meat daily? How many
animals are we killing? We should kill some animals but not as much as we are
killing now. We should eat less meat than what we are eating right now. Shannon.
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Shannon: I agree with you, but I’m going to go back to what Kasey said about killing
humans because when people will donate their bodies after they die, that means that
it’s alright with them to donate freely. What if a person dying is in their mid-30s and
is in perfect health and someone else in another part of the world. What you’re saying
is that it would be fine to kill the person in perfect health to give their resources to the
person that was sick. And so that’s what we’re doing with them.
Aaron C.: Shannon, this is Aaron C. by the way. The way it works with organ donors
is say I’m sick and Ron’s an organ donor, so Ron dies tomorrow from tuberculosis or
a car crash or whatever, and I need a heart. They’ll take his heart and they’ll keep it
safe and send it to wherever I am and then they’ll give me a heart transplant. They
don’t just like the same deal. They don’t just kill Ron then give me the heart. They
have to wait till Ron dies to get their organ.
Shannon: I’m saying that that’s what we do with animals with their meat and their
skin; why don’t we do that with humans?
Aaron C.: ‘Cause humans are some – we are the reason that they die, right? Why
would we kill our own kind for things that we eat? That would be cruel. I’m not going
to kill brother because I need meat. I’m going to go to the store and buy some beef.
Or venison. But –
The boys during the early part of this exchange were engaged in a back-and-forth, honest form of
exploration related to the benefits of animal resources versus natural conservation in the wild
when an interjection by Everett set the conversation off-course. Everett, who engaged here
vocally for the first time in our talks, gave a position statement (POS) utterance, and with this,
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others could not bear to hold back from gasping, laughing, and clapping. This shift seemed to
open the talk for Becca to rejoin with a chance at argumentation. The disputational exchange
between Becca and Jamie was quashed momentarily by a less-dominant speaker, Maria – only to
be picked up again by Shannon. It was these interjections of argumentation, sporadically
inserted, that would come to define Dialogue 9 as one of disputes.
As noted, the initiation of argumentation was consistent between factions of girls, but
overall the origination of arguments (AR) delivered logged in at 21 of 95 disputational moves
(22%) – perhaps a surprising low percentage for a question that lent toward prompting either/or
responses. Also unexpected was a lower frequency of disregards for previous speakers (RE).
These lack of acknowledgement (RE) Disputes, while not extremely scant -- accounting for 28 of
95 moves, were less frequent than was witnessed during other observed talks. Topic-shifts (TS)
and non-reasoned responses (NR) were delivered frequently during Dialogue 9. Interestingly,
five different girls uttered 12 of 16 topic-shifts; four girls accounted for 7 of 10 total moves of
non-reasoning. Related, it was moves of dispute that triggered me, as facilitator, to engage 38
times within Dialogue 9. Because of consistent sequences of dialogue among lead-speakers,
procedural interjections (27) were delivered more to elicit the views of others. However, the
polarizing topic chosen also allowed for a high frequency of facilitator exploration through
substantial interjections (11) as well. Moves of non-reasoning also tended to elicit critical
interjections from me in attempts to prompt reasoning.
At issue was the fact that lead-speakers dominated Dialogue 9 to the extent of becoming
overbearing to other students. Following the talk some less-secure speakers expressed concern
that their voices were being heard during the dialogue. Calvin, a lead-speaker, responded to this
criticism during a post-talk interview by insisting that:
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I’ve noticed that some people don’t want to enter the dialogue so basically, if no
people are entering into the dialogue, some people have to keep going in.
Becca also answered in support of allowing speakers who wished to join in 7 to 10 times per
dialogue to do so:
If you’re adding new ideas each time that you talk, you’re getting more ideas out
there; it’s better than agreeing and disagreeing with other people.
Whether or not some participants were disgruntled about the frequency with which lead-
speakers engaged in Dialogue 9, results from the post-dialogue Likert survey indicated strong
support to the contrary. On the 5-point scale, Dialogue 9’s question rated with a mean of 3.9 –
the same attributed to Dialogue 7. Ten of 25 surveyed students gave this question a perfect 5 of
the Likert scale. Four students, on the exit survey, identified “Should we kill animals?” as the
best overall question of our 14 observed dialogues. Thus far, only Dialogue 5’s question, “Which
school is better, TLA or CKA?”, was identified with as many indications for best overall
question.
Class Dialogue 10 – November 14, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma – “The
Runaway Trolley” (39:06).
Dialogue 10 developed from intact questions following a read-aloud of an inserted
dilemma found in Michael Sandel’s Justice: What’s the Right Thing to Do? (2009). Within
Chapter 1, “Doing the Right Thing”, Sandel poses a moral issue regarding life and death and
engages a reader’s reasoning as a bystander who has the opportunity to take or refuse action. In
the scenario the reader is out for a stroll and comes to a bridge that overlooks a trolley track. The
reader then notices a runaway trolley hurdling towards a group of five men on the track playing
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cards. The men are too far away to any alerting shouts the reader might make. In a panic the
reader wonders what, if anything, can be done to help the men and notices a diverting switch on
the bridge. The reader then realizes that if he or she pulls the switch, the trolley will change
tracks. However, asleep on the other track is a solitary man. In this first scenario of two, the
reader must decide whether or not to pull the switch, saving five men but killing one or to choose
no action, saving one but allowing the five to perish.
In the second discussion scenario posed mid-way through Dialogue 10, the reader must
again make a hasty decision whether or not to act in saving the same five, track-sitting, card-
playing men. In this situation there still exists a runaway trolley; however, there is no diverting
track on which to switch the trolley. There is however a very obese man leaning against the
railing of the bridge. The reader realizes that this bystander is large enough and positioned well
enough on the bridge that, if he were pushed, would fall directly on the tracks before the five
oblivious men. The fall at the impact of the runaway trolley would surely kill the obese
bystander, but he would derail the trolley, saving the five others on the track. The reader is left to
mentally wrestle with two moral quandaries, both eliciting participants to apply contradicting
principles. One principle prompts them to save as many lives as possible, while another says that
it is wrong to kill an innocent person – even for a good cause. Both scenarios sparked our
discussion for Dialogue 10. Students first had to wrestle with the question, “Do you pull the
switch?” and then, mid-way through the talk had to think out loud about, “Do you push the obese
man off the bridge?” Both questions were included on the students’ scenario handout pages.
Topical questions generated by students were not elicited for Dialogue 10.
During our ground-rules review, I pointed out that a goal of this talk should be to
accomplish norm 2: Everyone participates. In order to do this, we would all have to work
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together to limit speaking turns and to possess a desire to know what others think, especially
those who may not be main speakers. I mentioned during the ground-rules review that, as
facilitator, I would be more conscious myself of trying to include all members of class by
making procedural interjections. In fact, I specified, our first scenario question prompts
participants to state a belief with reasoning, but the question really calls for all present to join in
with thinking out loud. Next, I posed a challenge to our less-dominant speakers. I stated that
lead-speakers needed to be challenged more with questions regarding their ideas. I relayed to the
class that our more dominant speakers were uttering a lot of ideas and making a lot of points in
our talks but that they were not being challenged about the validity of these points. I mentioned
that it might be a critical move by some of our non-dominant speakers to question ideas brought
forth by our lead-speakers. The result, I said, might better create a more exploratory dialogue
since questioning was a key ingredient in the making of exploratory talk.
Dialogue 10 proved a more engaging talk than most prior, observed discussions. Twenty-
two of 24 students present engaged vocally in one or both of the scenario questions for
discussion. Sixteen participants joined the dialogue three or more times. As indicated by the
discourse coding indicator in Table 17, students were involved in the talk with consistency
throughout the roll of speakers. While it was visually apparent that lead-speakers accounted for a
majority of Disputes, Explorations remained visually constant throughout the dialogue. Even the
last new speaker, Javier, contributed four moves.
Table 17
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 10 – Moral Dilemma: “The Runaway Trolley”
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Participants Explorations Disputes Agree Pass
Ana POS/RR/POS RE 1 1
Becca POS/POS/POS NR/RB 0 0
Calvin POS/POS/POS/POS/DQ/CR AR/AR/TS/AR/AR/AR/AR/RE/AR/TS/RE
AR/AR 1 0
Ron POS/POS/POS/POS/POS/POS/IQ AR/NR/NR/NR/TS/TS/NR/NR/RE/RE/RB
POS/POS RB/TS/NR/AR/CA 0 0
Marcus DQ/POS/POS/RR NR/NR/NR/AR/RE/AR/AR/CA 2 1
Trevor NR 1 1
Jamie CR/POS/POS/ID/ID/DQ/DQ/RR AR/RE/NR/NR/RE/NR/RE/CA/AR/RE/RB
DQ/RR RB/RB/RB 0 0
Kathy POS/POS RB/NR 2 0
Mallory AQ/ID/AQ/RR/AQ/RR/AQ/IQ AR/AR
RR/ID/AQ/RR 1 1
Aaron C. ID/POS/POS/POS/IQ/POS TS/NR/TS/TS/AR/TS/AR/NR/NR 0 0
Niles POS/POS/POS RE 1 0
Cindy TS 1 0
Everett 0 2
Tripp POS/POS/DQ RE/NR/RE/NR 0 0
Aaron W. AQ/POS/ID/POS RE/RE 1 0
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Piper POS/POS/ID/POS TS/RE/RE/NR 0 0
April RR/CR 0 1
Michelle POS/POS/CR/POS 1 0
Maria POS RE 0 0
William POS/POS/POS/POS RE/NR/NR/NR/RE/NR/NR 0 0
Audrey POS RE 1 0
Shannon RR 0 1
Javier POS/DQ NR/RE 0 1
22 speakers 84 90 13 9
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections – 34; Substantial interjections – 27
Participants in Dialogue 10 contributed 187 total moves. The talk resulted in our most even
comparison between Explorations (84/45%) and Disputes (90/48%) thus far. Likewise, facilitator
moves occurred more often (61 times) than during any prior dialogue in this study. In
explanation, most procedural interjections were delivered in attempt to elicit the thoughts of
students who had yet to join the talk. With 22 of 24 students engaging, facilitator moves
interjected more often, serving as a form of moderation to keep meandering utterances more
concise. With conciseness, more hand-raisers could, in turn, be called upon to join in. As
facilitator, it was my intent that all 24 students present engage vocally in response to the first
scenario’s question: Do you pull the switch? If previous participants attempted to join multiple
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times with position statements, I interjected to question their intent – suggesting that he or she
had already joined us but that various others had not.
Substantial moves of facilitator interjection also occurred with greater frequency during
Dialogue 10. Twenty-seven of 61 total facilitator moves were uttered in attempt to elicit greater
reasoning from several participants. Substantial moves were triggered quite regularly by the non-
reasoned utterances (NR) of participants. Non-reasoning during Dialogue 10 attributed to 27 of
90 total disputational moves (30%). On most occasions when a reason was not provided for a
response, I would interject to elicit depth of thought from participants. The trolley-dilemma
questions prompted participants to choose a side, but in effect, the questions did not necessarily
prompt participants to provide reasoning for their responses. In this sense, substantial questions
from me helped contribute to the total number of student moves and, ultimately, helped to create
a more exploratory talk. Furthermore, as substantial interjections were delivered in the form of
inquiries, participants were prompted to answer with an exploratory response: position
statements, deductions in logic, or inquiries of their own. As such, substantial interjections
occurred most often during the second phase of Dialogue 10 – as responses to the second
scenario posed a chance for participants to contradict their previous answers spoken during the
first phase of our talk. During the following excerpt, from phase two, I prompted Piper to engage
more divergently than she had previously:
Piper: I’m going to say that I would push him off even though it would kill him. Well,
no, I wouldn’t have time to ask the questions but the reason why I would push him off
– if it was me in that situation, I would risk my life to save five other people no matter
who they were. But in the other guy’s situation – the reason I would push him off is
because I would rather save five people than one. And I know that sounds like
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straight up murder, and I guess that it would be but I would rather know that I tried to
save lives than to watch five innocent people die.
Mr. Herr: Piper, I would like to ask you a question about this. Now in the first
situation would you have pulled the switch to save five?
Piper: Yes.
Mr. Herr: Okay. According to you, how would people think of your actions when you
pulled the switch and you killed the one and saved the five. Would people consider
that murder or would people consider that you trying to do the right thing?
Piper: I don’t know how people would consider it, but in my eyes –
Mr. Herr: That’s fine. Let me ask you about the second situation: Would you
physically pushing someone off a bridge – would that be looked at differently than
just pulling a switch to save five – would it be looked at differently to push someone
off a bridge to save five who had no sort of involvement in the situation?
Piper: No matter what, it’s still killing one person and no matter what the situation,
it’s killing people, so – Cindy.
The latter exchange was indicative of how most facilitator moves in the second phase of
Dialogue 10 were presented. Because of a critical relationship between the two scenario
questions, opportunities to pry deeper into participants’ thinking emerged.
Explorations during Dialogue 10 materialized throughout the discourse with greater
frequency than all but one other talk – Dialogue 5 over “Frederick”. In fact, the 84 exploratory
moves in Dialogue 10 were the most uttered in any observed dialogue in this study before or
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since. As was mentioned, a portion of Explorations was elicited through the delivery of
substantial inquiries from me as facilitator. However, the most exploratory sequence of Dialogue
10 transpired without multiple interjections from me. Jamie and Ron, two semi-dominant
speakers, engaged for a couple of minutes in a back-and-forth exchange that was critical,
creative, and respectful. Throughout the sequence 12 exploratory moves were uttered and coded
– 7 of which were critical questions regarding the pushing off of the obese man:
Jamie: They do say that the man is equally frantic so he wants to save their life as
much as the person. So I’m sure it would be okay if the man jumped.
Ron: Okay, but that doesn’t mean that you want to save the people. ‘Cause the man is
equally frantic as you are and you don’t want to do it, that means the man doesn’t
want to do it. So it depends on what you want to do.
Jamie: But you want to save the people –
Ron: But I don’t and I’m in that situation. So, that means that the man’s not going to
want to die.
Jamie: So, if me and you were on a bridge –
Ron: I would push you.
Jamie: Let me finish. And there was five people about to die and they didn’t notice it.
Wouldn’t you want to help them? It doesn’t matter what they were doing or who they
were; wouldn’t you want to help them?
Ron: No, ‘cause it’s their fault.
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Jamie: If they were just walking, and they didn’t see it and they were about to die,
wouldn’t you want to help them?
Ron: Why would they be a bridge walking?
Jamie: It just matters of would you want to save them or not. Would you want to save
five lives?
Ron: No.
Mr. Herr: Why not, Ron?
Ron: Because there’s like – how many people in the world? Five people’s not going
to hurt.
Jamie: It’s just the two people on the bridge that see it. It’s just two people.
Mr. Herr: Ron, honestly the people who get hit are not going to be in any pain;
they’re not going to worry. It’s the people that know and love them that would be
affected don’t you think?
Ron: Well, yeah, but it would be their fault – the people who – it’s the people on the
bridge’s fault because they’re risking their own life by being on the bridge.
Calvin: What about the fat man’s family?
Jamie: Would you want to live with the fact that you could have saved five lives?
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Mr. Herr: Could you take a chance on calling on someone with their hand up. We
have a method. Also, if you have your hand down, someone can still call on you.
Sorry to interrupt you; who was speaking? Jamie.
Jamie: Would you want to live with the fact that you could have saved five people
even though you could have saved them?
Ron: You don’t know that you could have saved them.
Jamie: Yes you could have. You could have pushed somebody.
Ron: That says might.
Jamie: And you still have a chance –
Mr. Herr: I’m going to call a timeout. It was good; I liked the interplay, and Jamie I
really appreciate that you asked a lot of questions there. It was extraordinary – good
stuff. But I would like you, Jamie, to call on another.
The sequence as a whole exemplified the epitome of Community of Inquiry. Participants were
inquiring, offering positions and making deductions in logic throughout the exchange. Not until
Calvin interrupted to engage did this exchange produce any utterances of speaker-disregard.
Even the argumentation near the end of the excerpt was topical and thoughtful in content.
Student-posed questions, of which there were 26, were offered more during Dialogue 10 than in
any other previous talk (31% of Explorations). Boys in the class, who had previously uttered
very few questions throughout our discourses, contributed 10 of 26 inquiries (27%). That number
was more than double the amount of questions posed by boys within any one previous dialogue.
Remarkably, the deliverance of exploratory questions from boys was dispersed throughout 7 of
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10 speakers. For the girls, who contributed 16 of 26 inquiries to Dialogue 10, Mallory posed 10
questions on her own. Between Mallory’s emergence as an exploratory master and the selected
exchange between Jamie and Ron, the evidence produced through this exchange brings some
credibility to the idea that communities of inquiry can exist within larger discourses in which
disputes dominate.
In regard to disputational talk within Dialogue 10, a great majority of the moves were
uttered by lead-speakers. Of the 90 Disputes coded from Dialogue 10, 66 moves were delivered
by only six different lead-speakers (73%). Less-dominant speakers only accounted for 15 of 90
moves of dispute (17%). The assumption here was that those who joined into our talks the most,
were also contributing most toward disputing. Granted, during Dialogue 10, those same
dominant speakers also contributed 51 of 84 moves of exploration (61%).
The initiation of arguments during Dialogue 10 was not high considering the one-sided
nature of both scenario questions. Twenty of 90 disputational moves (22%) were issued in
creation of argumentation (AR), and remarkably 18 of the 20 originations of argument (AR)
were delivered by only five dominant-speakers in class. Seemingly, if sequences of disputes
were to emerge during Dialogue 10, they would have been initiated by Calvin, Ron, Marcus,
Jamie, or Aaron C. In fact, these five lead-speakers combined uttered 59 of the 90 moves of
dispute (66%). These five participants did account for 36 of 84 exploratory moves (43%), but
without their engagement in Dialogue 10 the talk as a whole would have registered a greater
percentage of exploratory moves than disputational. The absence of these five dominant-speakers
would have subtracted 95 of the 187 total moves from Dialogue 10 and allowed for exploration
to dominate disputes, 48 moves to 31 (52% to 37%). Indications of such aims toward dispute
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were shown preeminently within the following excerpted selection by Aaron C., Marcus, Jamie,
and Calvin near the end of the second phase of Dialogue 10:
Aaron C.: So, you’re saying that you would – would you like to live with the fact that
you could have saved five lives. What would you like to live with the fact that you
killed a guy to attempt to save five lives? And what if the plan failed? You would
have killed six; you would have killed a guy and known that you could have saved
five lives but killed a guy and it failed?
Mr. Herr: Are you asking the class? Jamie and Ron have had some good time
dialogue-wise, so let’s try to get some other people involved.
Aaron C.: Marcus.
Marcus: I have a question for Jamie. So do you really think that humans could stop
this huge, metal trolley that’s going to crash into – do you really think that a human
can do that – jump in front of it?
Mr. Herr: Marcus, whether she thinks so or not, the scenario says that it could
happen.
Marcus: Yeah, it could happen. But there is a possibility that it’s not going to happen
if you – so you would have killed six people instead of five.
Jamie: There’s a chance of saving. Wouldn’t you want to take that chance or no? Or
let them die because you didn’t take a chance.
Marcus: I also agree with this Aaron (Aaron W.) because it’s foolish. It’s foolish to
play cards on a railroad track.
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Jamie: It doesn’t matter why. It just matters that you save their life or not.
Aaron C.: But it’s murder.
Jamie: Everett.
Everett: Pass. Javier.
Javier: Pass. Calvin.
Calvin: So here’s what I’m thinking. Like Aaron said (Aaron W.), they’re foolish like
I can’t remember who said it was murder – wait was that Marcus?
Aaron C.: No, I just yelled that it was murder.
Calvin: Yeah, and like he said, it was murder. It’s not right for that and honestly, can
a human really stop – this is what would happen if you threw someone in front of a
moving trolley. (Crashing, crushing noises). It really wouldn’t do anything. And uh
just to be sure, I’m all about saving lives, if I could do that I would but it’s on a
chance – what the matter of fact that I’m going to save this guy and plus this has
nothing to do with it. You’re just going to kill and it didn’t work, just like that.
Quite intriguingly, choices by Everett and Javier to abstain from engaging here kept this dispute
going longer than it might have. Interjections by one these two less-dominant speakers might
have moved this sequence toward an exploratory course. As it happened, argumentation led up to
the end of Dialogue 10.
Despite this sequence of dispute, overall perceptions of Dialogue 10 were positive. In the
post-dialogue survey, 10 of 24 students rated the dilemma questions a 5 on a 5-point Likert scale.
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Overall, the class identified the questions driving Dialogue 10 with a Likert-mean of 4.0, the
highest rated observed discussion to date. However, only one of 25 students taking the exit
survey identified the questions for Dialogue 10 as the best overall. A general consensus of the
talk and of the two questions posed was presented by participants during a post-dialogue
interview session:
Mallory: Like discussions – moral discussions there’s kind of like it’s not really a
right or wrong answer – it is opinions and that can lead to more explorations and
questions.
Tripp: When we got to the question if you would push the fat man off the bridge, it
made us think more than the first one. The first one was a pretty obvious answer. The
second one actually made you think.
Class Dialogue 11 – November 21, 2014: Classical Fiction - “A Sound of Thunder”
(33:31).
Dialogue 11’s discussion was elicited by a major plot event from Ray Bradbury’s classic
science-fiction short story, “A Sound of Thunder” (2005). The story, set in the future of 2055,
presents a time-travel excursion into the past of sixty-million years – a Jurassic period where
dinosaurs ruled the planet. Eckels pays a large sum to Time Safari Inc. for the chance to venture
into the distant past to team up and kill the greatest big game of all time, a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Once into the past and keeping sure to stay on the anti-gravity path constructed by the safari
company, the hunting team waits for the arrival of a T-Rex. Bradbury, as third-person narrator,
indicates that the safari company is cautious about the alteration of time in any and every
unnatural way. The path itself is in place to keep even the introduction of human footprints from
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altering the natural occurrences of history. Simply stepping off the path and crushing a bug or
plant in the fledgling world could, according to the safari company, have dire lasting effects on
the future of the earth. Safari scouts, before the hunt, use the time machine to identify dinosaurs
about to die of natural causes. This is so the death of any creatures does not occur out of sync
with nature, and so that no upheaval in the evolving process of time and space can take place.
Dinosaurs splattered with paint from a paint gun are identified as the ones to shoot on safaris.
Once the fated T-Rex is spotted by the hunters, Eckels becomes overwhelmed by its size
and fierceness, panics and is directed to wait for the ordeal to end back in the time machine. In
his state of anxiety, Eckels races the wrong way back to the machine and veers off the anti-
gravity path. After the T-Rex is shot and killed by the other hunters and they return to the time
machine, Travis displays his anger toward Eckels for veering off the path. Travis threatens to
leave Eckels in the past but is persuaded by other, coolheaded members of the safari to allow him
to return to the present. Once back to the present of 2055, the offices of Time Safari Inc. are
noticed to have changed slightly. A different man is working the front desk and the
advertisement billboard in the lobby is written in a strange form of English. At that point Eckels
notices that, buried in the mud from one of his shoeprints, is a very beautiful but very dead
butterfly. This development helps the reader to infer that the death of a single butterfly from the
distant past can cause the alteration of the future over a great period of time. Then, as the story
ends, Travis, in a rage, aims his rifle at Eckels, and there is identified a sound of thunder.
The read-aloud of “A Sound of Thunder” took place during the class period before our
Thinking Out Loud dialogue. As often was the case, students were offered the chance to submit a
question for discussion to our social learning site, Edmodo®. Five student questions and one
facilitator question were submitted and these six served as the prompts to which the class voted.
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Mallory’s query, “Can something very insignificant, like killing a butterfly in the past, have a
huge effect on the future?” received 11 total votes and became our main prompt in which to
discuss. This prompt’s context lent itself to solicitation of one-sided responses, yet the potential
for it to provoke reasoning also existed – as references to the story’s text evidence would likely
be encouraged within our talk.
Again my review of the ground-rules focused on the inclusion of more participants into
Dialogue 11. I lauded the students for dispersing vocal engagements very evenly throughout the
last discussion and urged them to continue the trend within the current talk. I did question the
whole class in regard to those who pass on chances to engage often. I wondered aloud if quiet
students were feeling overwhelmed by dominant voices or if, perhaps, they were not being
acknowledged as much as they would have liked. Nervousness and/or not knowing what to say, I
suggested, might be an acceptable personal reason for not joining in, but if their silence had
anything to do with being shut out by dominant speakers, then the class should actively listen for
chances to allow for more reluctant students to engage.
Contrary to what I would have preferred from our dominant speakers during Dialogue 11,
this talk centered around nine lead-speakers. While 19 of 25 students joined in vocally at least
once, 110 of 140 total moves were delivered by nine speakers (79% of moves). It was not until
approximately 12 minutes into the dialogue that the first non-dominant speaker engaged, and
even then, Tripp entered in on his own volition – interjecting with a divergent question. For a
lead-speaker to actually invite a less-dominant student into Dialogue 11, took approximately 18
minutes. In total, less-dominant speakers accounted for only 27 of 140 total moves delivered
within Dialogue 11 (19%). Although the discussion in general proved more exploratory than
disputational, the moves in total uttered by our dominant participants accounted more for
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Disputes than for Explorations. In fact, if not for the 19 exploratory moves offered by less-
talkative students, the discourse as a whole would have swung more toward being identified as
disputational. As it turned out, Explorations totaled 70 moves (50%), seven more than the 63
attributed to Disputes (45%). Table 18 visually indicates a noticeable shift in engagement once
the tenth speaker, Tripp, joined.
Table 18
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 11 – Classical Fiction: “A Sound of Thunder”
Participants Explorations Disputes Agree Pass
Kasey POS/POS NR/RE/RE/TS/TS 0 0
Calvin POS/POS/ID/DQ/IQ/POS/POS/ID RE/TS/NR/NR/NR/TS/NR/RE/AR/CA
POS/CR/POS/POS 0 0
Marcus RR/IQ/IQ/IQ/CR/RR RE/AR/AR/AR 1 1
Kathy CR 0 0
Becca ID/DQ/AQ/ID/RR/CR/ID/ID/ID RE/TS/TS/RE/NR/RE/RE/AR/RE/AR/RE
POS/POS NR 0 0
Aaron C. DQ/CR/POS/DQ/ID/POS/DQ/RR TS/AR/NR/NR/TS/RE/RB/AR/TS/AR
POS/POS/POS 1 0
Ron POS RE/NR/AR/RE/AR/AR/AR 0 0
Shannon POS/ID RE/TS/RE/AR 1 0
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Jamie CR/DQ/IQ/CR/ID RB/RE/AR 1 0
Tripp DQ/RR RB 0 1
Mallory ID/POS 1 0
Trevor RR/POS 0 1
Everett RR 0 1
William RR NR/TS/NR 0 1
Aaron W. DQ/DQ/RR RE 0 1
Maria CR/CR/POS/POS RE 2 1
Audrey POS RE 0 0
Michelle RR 0 1
Javier DQ 0 0
Cindy POS 0 0
Ana NR 0 0
19 speakers 70 63 7 8
Facilitator moves: Procedural moves – 15; Substantial moves – 7
On the whole Explorations occurred more often than did Disputes (50% to 45%). More student
inquiries were uttered (28) than during any other talk to date. During Dialogue 11 the number of
exploratory questions was greater than that of position statements (POS) for the first time within
any recorded discourse (28 moves to 24 moves). Of those 28 questions posed, 15 were delivered
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in critical exploration (54%): divergent questions (DQ), assessment questions (AQ), and
information questions (IQ). Also, in breaking with recent traditions, boys in the class offered 17
of the 28 questions posed (61%). This increase in boy-uttered questions was first identified
during Dialogue 10 (at 10 moves) and within Dialogue 11, for the first time, questions from boys
occurred more often than did delivered questions from girls. Interesting to note was that just as
many less-dominant boys (3) offered questions as did dominant speaking boys (3). The following
exchange between Calvin and Marcus, two lead-speakers, hints at a progression toward
exploration through questioning:
Calvin: Yeah. I’m not quite sure what eats a butterfly, but eventually – see butterflies
might not have been as common back then as today, but in that case let’s say the thing
that eats that it runs out of butterflies. And that runs out of them, and eventually leads
up to humans and it changes our culture: our way of thinking, our ideas, our religion,
the English language. We don’t know, but it probably could lead up to significant
things.
Marcus: Because of one butterfly?
Calvin: So let’s say back then if I kill one human, like maybe ten humans, or maybe
five humans – do you think there would be as many people today who would survive?
Marcus: Um, I guess not. But I’m saying versus a human and a butterfly?
Calvin: Yeah, but what about the things that eat off the butterfly, what about the
things that eat off that?
Marcus: Off the butterfly?
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Calvin: Yeah, these things are actually kind of useful to humans ourselves. Some
people eat crickets. I’m just saying. Okay, you know what? You can go.
During previous dialogues, this exchange between Calvin and Marcus would have been
presented as a dispute, charged by argumentation and rebuttal. However, in this sequence, both
were interacting through a different dynamic than in previous talks: While argumentation might
truly have been their intent, both Calvin and Marcus here offered questions to elicit more
exploratory understanding. In the span of seven vocal moves, five questions were posed – all five
of the critical type, divergent and information. The exchange transpired as an honest exploration
of ideas made manifest by the presence of inquiry.
Disputes, as indicated by Table 18, were visually uttered with greater frequency by the
first nine speakers of Dialogue 11. In fact, 55 of 63 moves of dispute (87%) were delivered in
total by dominant speakers. Relative to this disclosure was the fact that while moves of
argumentation (AR) were initiated only 15 times during Dialogue 11 (24% of Disputes), only
dominant-speakers originated any arguments (AR) during the talk. Likewise, consistent with the
number of Disputes was the number of procedural moves delivered by me as facilitator (15 of 22
moves). Here, the disproportionate number of procedural interjections compared to substantial
moves was greater due to attempts by me to engage more vocal participants. Furthermore, earlier
in Dialogue 11, when more lead-speakers were actively engaged, procedural interjections were
spoken more often in an attempt to guide the dialogue toward respect. Of the 20 moves related to
a disregard for previous speakers’ ideas, 17 were attributed to lead-speakers. Only three of the
remaining 10 non-dominant speakers (those entering after the 18-minute mark) failed to
acknowledge a previous speaker. Moreover, 6 of 7 substantial interjections were delivered by me
as facilitator after Mallory entered in -- after the 18-minute mark of Dialogue 11. In total, only
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on two occasions was a procedural interjection given as a response to a less-dominant speaker –
13 times procedural moves spoken by me were made in response to the utterances of a lead-
speaker. In essence, procedural moves were related more toward keeping the dialogue civil and
respectful while lead-speakers were making exchanges during the talk. As was indicated during
Dialogue 11, sequences of lengthy dispute were wholly absent. However, the one sequence of
disputational interaction present within Dialogue 11 was delivered on-topic, for the most part.
Apparent within the following excerpt are five moves in disregard toward the previous speaker
(RE). While these moves of disrespect are becoming noticeably fewer as our dialogues continue,
those offered here indicate that selfish aims are still a part of any whole-class discourse:
Kasey: We keep talking about like butterflies when we kill them and that means that
and that means that to us. Well, we sort of got off topic about the language cause we
keep going back to we need food and –
Mr. Herr: I’m not sure that language has to be part of the topic. A huge effect on the
future.
Becca: Did you hear what I said about language?
Kasey: Yes.
Becca: Well, that could be a reason about it, and we talked about it.
Kasey: Okay, never mind. Ron.
Ron: Okay, so most of y’all are saying if you kill one butterfly it’s not going to affect
anything. Well, I noticed that most of y’all said that if you killed one person in the
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last story, when they’re sleeping on a railroad track, it’s not going to affect anything.
But –
Mr. Herr: Interesting point.
Ron: So as I was saying, it will affect something. Ray got my back when I got back
when I say this.
Becca: Who?
Ron: Ray Bradbury got my back. Um, uh, yeah. But I mean, I just wanted to point
that out. Most of y’all are saying the same thing. Killing one butterfly’s not going to
hurt anything is like killing one human in the other story. Aaron.
Aaron C.: Alright, the cool one. So, um, now this is – so this is sort of agreeing with
Ron. If you kill one person, okay, so, if it’s an average Joe who works for the garbage
company. Then that’ll have an effect on his family and the garbage place will have to
get a new guy, but if you ended up killing someone like really, really important to
history. Like when Hitler was four and he was drowning and then a priest saved him.
If that priest never saved him, then maybe Great Britain would have a more – a bigger
population. So it really depends on who the person is, what the animal is – whatever
is. So, uh, Jamie.
Jamie: I think you guys are on the right track and then you stop at humans. The
question is on the future – the effect is the language. How would a butterfly affect the
language? ‘Cause since he killed the butterfly, I get that it will affect whatever eats it,
but that has nothing to do with the language. Tripp.
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Tripp: It doesn’t have to be about language. It’s anything about the future – any huge
effect. Becca.
Becca: I have a feeling none of you took in what I actually said about how the
consumption of the butterfly could affect us – the person who invented the English
language could have gone mad inventing this. So, take that under consideration that
we didn’t talk about the language when that’s a possibility to add on to it to get closer
to an agreement. Audrey.
The last excerpt indicated the most noted sequence of disputational talk present during Dialogue
11. Participants, albeit engaged in delivering topic-shifts (TS), non-reasoned responses (NR),
arguments (AR), and a rebuttal (RB), never strayed too far off-point during the excerpt of
dispute. Becca’s one desire was for others to consider a previous point she had made. Only Ron
and Jamie seemed insistent on initiating argumentation at all. In fact, only Tripp spoke in rebuttal
of any of the few arguments presented. On the whole, this sequence defined the low-level
disputes that materialized during the entire talk.
Moves of agreement (7 total) and choices to pass on speaking (8 total) were only
marginally indicative of notable dynamics toward defining Dialogue 11. Interestingly, the eight
passes on speaking were predominantly isolated among less-talkative participants. Seven passes
were uttered by 10 non-dominant speakers in the later phases of Dialogue 11. Only one pass was
uttered by a lead-speaker (Marcus). Two students were not called upon or did not choose to enter
in at all (Elizabeth and Niles were absent). Only April and, surprisingly, Piper did not try or were
not called upon to speak.
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As post-dialogue Likert scales indicate, Dialogue 11 was not well received by the class as
a whole. Of 23 surveys taken following Dialogue 11, only two students gave the question the
highest rating on a 5-point Likert. The mean score tallied for “Can something very insignificant,
like killing a butterfly in the past, have a huge effect on the future?” was 3.2. In comparison, the
this question rated most closely with Dialogue 5’s prompt regarding the better of two schools.
Exit survey acknowledgement for Dialogue 11’s question only initiated one vote for best overall
question. Mallory, whose question won the vote for Dialogue 11, identified the prompt as the
best of all 14 observed queries.
Class Dialogue 12 – December 4, 2014: Factual Narrative “The Declaration of War
against Japan” (34:04).
Dialogue 12 was prompted by a read-aloud of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s December 8,
1941, address to the U.S. Congress, “The Declaration of War against Japan” (2011). Also known
as the Infamy Speech, FDR made a furious request to a joint session of Congress to grant him the
power to impose war on the Japanese Empire – a nation in which FDR thought was still in the
process of negotiating peace with the U.S. when the attacks on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, a day
before took place. The speech indicates all the islands attacked in the Pacific realm on December
7, 1941, and calls special attention to the destruction levied against the U.S. naval base on Pearl
Harbor. Climactic to this nine-paragraph speech was FDR’s pledge and commitment to see to it
that this type of atrocity would never happen again.
In a brief teacher-led discussion of the speech following the read-aloud, some students
pondered whether or not the dropping of atomic bombs on Japanese cities at the end of World
War II in 1945 was a direct result of the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor that brought the U.S. into
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the war. For the next class period, I presented students with a single-page handout of an internet
research article that detailed some general statistics of the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. This
handout was accompanied by a brief Youtube® video clip describing the morning of August 6,
1945, from the perspective of U.S. bomber pilots and Japanese citizens affected by the bombs. In
an effort to channel students’ intuitive thoughts regarding FDR’s speech from the day before
coupled with the discussion we had about U.S. retaliation and possible revenge actions taken in
the form of dropping atomic bombs on Japan, I decided to pose our Thinking Out Loud prompt
for Dialogue 12: Was the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan justified? I decided to direct our
question for this talk for a couple of reasons. I knew that if the students submitted questions for
voting, time engaged in discourse would be shortened substantially. Furthermore, I also wanted
to engage a few of our discussions with prompts directed by me to serve as an observation
comparison with those posed and voted on by the students. I was interested in observing any
change in dynamics that might occur as a result of my wording and submission of prompts
compared to those solely constructed and delivered by the students of this study.
The review of ground-rules was a terse reminder of what norms could create a more
deep-thinking and caring talk. I reiterated that our topic for this discussion might elicit more of a
desire to argue but that argumentation might be more respectfully channeled through the
exploratory offerings of questions instead of claims and points. I also indicated that it was of
great importance to hear the ideas of everyone present. Again I reminded all students that
ground-rule 2, “Everyone participates”, was only partially achieved through active listening:
Vocal sharing of ideas by all would prove the rule more accomplished.
A moral prompting of responses, triggered by FDR’s famous speech, set into reality
Dialogue 12 with the following inquiry: Was the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan justified? I
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offered this question because I felt it would initiate side-taking while poignantly generating
reasoned responses. I felt that any close-ended, unreasoned offerings could be countered with
substantial questions from me or by exploratory inquiries from student-participants. Yet what the
posed-topic for Dialogue 12 resulted in was a host of monologue-length deliveries. Lead-
speakers dominated this conversation, and some of their winded responses helped to shut down
hopes for sequences of exploration as well as vocal participation as a whole to register from this
talk. For a dialogue to last 34 minutes and only involve 15 of 24 students into the discourse
indicated a presence of selfish and lengthy responses.
While lengthy responses in exploration normally culminate with inquiry so as to elicit
even more exploration, many of these utterances during Dialogue 12 were both drawn-out and
argumentative. As it turned out, lengthy moves of disputational talk stymied potential
participation from speakers who hoped to follow – who many times gave up trying to join in or
who, once called upon, did so with a brief topic-shift to indicate relief in being chosen. Calvin,
on four occasions, along with Becca, Piper, Niles, and Shannon (once each) delivered responses
that consumed more than or near two-minutes in length. After each of these lengthy arguments,
aside from Niles’, the speakers following responded in exploration. These occurrences begged
the question of whether or not more exploratory moves would have been expressed had it not
been for the lengthy rambles. Somewhat disheartening was the thought that students who were
hoping to engage while the long-responders were speaking zoned out on the content being
delivered. It seemed that those who held the floor in extended moves offered forth rough ideas
and non-truths that fell on deaf ears. Very seldom were inaccurate ideas challenged either in
rebuttal or with exploratory inquiry. Only Shannon, following one of Calvin’s discourses, chose
to call Calvin on claimed facts that he had issued. Unfortunately, I felt that on other occasions,
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students’ passivity, due to exposure to long deliveries, neglected to either grasp the meaning of
spoken content or never heard the context of what was uttered. The following excerpt was lifted
from very early in Dialogue 12 and provides an accurate example of one of several
aforementioned expressions of length – this one uttered by Calvin:
Calvin: Okay, I am going to be approaching this from both sides. What they were
thinking is if they don’t drop this bomb, they’re going to have to invade. Back then
the Japanese were real prideful; they weren’t just going to surrender. They were like,
we’re going to fight this to the death, and they were willing to kill themselves just not
to surrender because that has happened on the Pacific campaign. They’ve killed
themselves; kamikazes into American ships, but it still wasn’t a justified way. But
anyways, the reason they were thinking is we don’t go back, if we don’t drop this
bomb, we’re going to have to invade. And there was going to be at least a million
people dying. That’s what they were thinking, but still they really they probably
didn’t have to invade because the Japanese just saw the ship. They knew they were
probably going to fail. And the Japanese, they um, they should have um, surrendered
– they have surrendered immediately after the point they were at. At that there was no
justification. Plus it kind of looses our relationship with the Soviet Union. ‘Hey, they
got bombs!’ Anyway, Shannon.
Shannon: Okay, half of what you said is not true. Just saying. If you read the handout,
the Japanese were about to surrender. The U.S. attacked the Japanese because they
wanted the Japanese to surrender to the United States. And that is a very arrogant and
wrong way to kill millions – thousands of people. Marcus.
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However, in examination of another sequence during which Calvin provided lengthy arguments
in claiming U.S. injustice with the dropping of atomic bombs, inquiries did emerge from Tripp
and Kasey in exploration. A drawback to the sequence was that these questions were posed only
for Calvin to answer, thus allowing him to respond again with lengthy monologues. In hindsight,
I should have made a procedural move to suspended Calvin from responding and allowed the
response to come from another participant or more:
Ron: Oh, yeah. But we wanted to like – America probably wanted to make a stand
‘cause they attacked us and made us go into a war and we wanted to be the first to
make an atomic bomb and launch it on to people. So, we did that and so we just did it
on Japan to take a stand. Uh, Calvin.
Calvin: Okay, basically we didn’t just – are you thinking that the atomic bombs were
overkill? By that point in the war, we already overkilled them. We bombed their
islands; we literally bombed the mainland of Japan over and over and over again with
just regular bombs. Major cities, heavily populated ports, everything. We always just
ransacked the country; we extremely overkilled it dropping two atomic bombs. We
already got our payback for debt, and we just like absolutely murdered them using the
two atomic bombs. There was no need, if you think about it, we have already taken
their territories, we have already just like broken their people. There was no need to
attack, but then we just overkilled it by dropping the bomb. And not only that, again,
we ruined our relationship with the Soviet Union. Uh, Tripp.
Tripp: Didn’t they drop the bomb on us first?
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Calvin: Yes, they did, but listen, they dropped their bombs on our what? A navy base.
We dropped bombs on cities! Not one city, multiple cities. Not just nuclear, we also
dropped them with regular bombs – over and over again. Over and over again. Over
and over again. Not once, not twice, multiple times. I can’t even count! We did it.
Even before we dropped the bombs, we already got our revenge in blood. Kasey.
Kasey: Well, you have to think about when Japan dropped the bombs on us, did Japan
have a good reason?
Calvin: Yeah, they did. In fact, it was kind of the president’s fault that they did that.
See what happen, ‘No, we’re going to stop trading with Japan.’ In fact, he wanted to
go to war with Japan, but he didn’t want to make him look bad in front of the
American people, so he said like, ‘You know what? We can make them attack us
first.’ Because we stopped trading with Japan and then they were like – they actually
did multiple things, but that was just like one of the main things. And they were like,
‘You know what? No, maybe if we attack the U.S., they will think we are powerful
and they might trade with us again. But still they didn’t. That’s kind of the reason
they did it.
As it turned out, Calvin was provided multiple chances to state claims about the topic. As the
excerpt indicated, inward claims delivered by several lead-speakers dominated the dynamics
of Dialogue 12. Close analysis seemed to show that lead-participants were very set in their
beliefs while less-dominant speakers chose to say very little about the topic of morality and
the dropping of bombs on Japan. Lead-speakers Jamie, Elizabeth, and Ron, during a post-
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dialogue interview, weighed in with opinions about why some students do not join in as
much and allow for other members of class to dominate the conversation:
Jamie: I think it’s just that they’re afraid of what other people might think or say.
Elizabeth: I think it’s because they are more comfortable staying quiet.
Ron: Some of them may think a different way or point out something else nobody
else thought of, and that’s why they stay quiet.
In total, less-dominant speakers only contributed 24 of 131 moves to the entire dialogue. The talk
as a whole took place consistently among 10 of 15 participants, and while moves of dispute were
delivered as frequently as had been in previous dialogues, they were offered more so than moves
of exploration (74 Disputes to 51 Explorations). In actuality, Dialogue 12 proved to be an
exercise in contradiction: It elicited fewer vocal participants than most talks (15), yet it rated as
one of the most memorable discussions, as determined from the post-talk Likert survey as well as
the exit survey. Dialogue 12’s questions received a mean Likert of 3.9 and 6 of 24 students (25%
of the class) indicated that the discussion was their favorite of the 14 observed during the course
of this study. Table 19 provides a visual representation of discourse codes that support further the
analysis of Dialogue 12.
Table 19
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 12 – Factual Narrative: “Infamy Speech”
Participants Explorations Disputes Agree Pass
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Kasey DQ/DQ/ID TS/RE/TS 0 0
Becca POS/ID/IQ/DQ RB/RB/RE/NR/AR 1 0
Calvin IQ/POS/POS RE/AR/RE/AR/TS/AR/AR/AR/AR/CA/AR
CA/RE/PQ/RB/AR 0 0
Shannon POS/ID RB/RE/AR/RB/RB/RB/RB 0 0
Marcus IQ/ID/POS/RR/POS RE/AR/CA/AR/CA/AR/RE 1 0
Elizabeth ID/CR/POS/POS NR/NR/CA/TS/NR 1 0
Niles POS AR/RE/AR 0 0
Javier POS RE/AR/RE/RB/RB 0 0
Jamie RR/ID/POS/RR RE/NR/RE/AR/RB 0 0
Kathy POS/RR/POS/POS/POS/POS TS/SD/NR/NR/NR/RE/RB 2 0
Mallory DQ/IQ/IQ/IQ/AQ/RR/POS AR 0 0
Ron RR/POS/ID/AQ/ID RE/AR/RE/AR 0 0
Tripp IQ 0 0
Piper POS/POS/CR RE/TS/RB/RB/RB 0 0
Trevor 0 1
Audrey POS RE 1 0
Maria RR 0 1
Everett 0 1
15 speakers 51 74 6 3
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Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections – 14; Substantial interjections – 9
Although Explorations were not distinctly part of the minority of moves spoken during
Dialogue 12, 51 of 131 utterances (39%) showed that this talk was more disputational than not.
By comparison, the first four speakers entering the dialogue provided 12 total moves of
exploration as opposed to 31 moves of dispute. Moreover, the next 11 speakers to engage
delivered 38 total moves in exploration and 41 moves of dispute. Indicative of this revelation
was that, similar to the progression of Dialogue 11, those dominant-speakers who spoke early
and regularly, most often spoke with an intent to argue or dispute in some way. In contrast, those
who joined in the talk after the first barrage of voices did so with a greater intent to explore. A
closer look into the attributed codes of Disputes indicates that, on the whole, lack of previous
speaker acknowledgment (RE = 18 moves), argumentation (AR = 19 moves), rebuttals (RB = 14
moves), topic-shifts (TS = 5 moves), and non-reasoned responses (NR = 7) were not on the rise
during Dialogue 12. However, those types of Disputes were, in fact, a major part of the spoken
repertoire of the first 4 speakers: Kasey, Becca, Calvin, and Shannon. So much so did these first
four dominant-speakers contribute to the overall total of disputational moves that, if they were
excluded from the talk, the percentage of Explorations (38) to Disputes (41) would have been
theoretically even.
By providing a discussion question that I believed was poised to elicit more exploration
than disputes, I failed to predict the existence of strongly-held passions several of the lead-
speakers possessed. These passions were so engrained that the length and weight of their
speeches suppressed the wills of others to engage much toward exploration. The few participants
of Dialogue 12 who did take chances to inquire in the midst of long-winded arguments kept the
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talk marginally exploratory yet could entirely hold off pronouncements of “knowledge” from
more dominant others.
Class Dialogue 13 – December 12, 2014: Non-Textually Generated Topic (28:10).
Dialogue 13 was initiated through the submission of non-text related questions into
Edmodo®, the class social-learning site. In the four days leading up to the talk, students were
asked to post questions of interest which might be transferred to the dry-erase board the morning
of the discussion. Eighteen questions were logged into the website, and, 10 of those deemed the
most philosophical, were written on the board the morning of Dialogue 13 – except for question
10: What would you do on the last day of your life? Each of the other nine queries were close-
ended posts that required responders to take a side. One of the 10 from the board began with the
stem of “why”. Achieving nine total votes, the most by one, question 10 won the vote. The
“why” question received eight votes and its defeat led to an ensuing talk that would come to be
defined by un-reasoned responses.
I allowed for question 10 to be written on the board and to become eligible for voting
because I reasoned, if it did win the vote, it would serve as a challenge for participants. Thinking
out loud about a question that specifically elicited inward, personal responses had been shown to
side-track exploration in past talks. However, for participants to be able to progress in their
thinking toward reasoning would prove to me an exploratory and culminating milestone for this
group – especially near the end of dialogue observations. Even as I reviewed the 12 ground-rules
with the class, I made a point to mention that this prompt would be a difficult one in which to
achieve exploration. I indicated to the students that thinking deeply about question 10 would
require purposeful inquiry on their parts. Questions, I said, would be a key factor toward the
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formation of Community of Inquiry. I mentioned that it would be easier for participants to fall
into a discussion based on expression, but that it was possible to turn this prompt into one that
promoted exploration just as much.
Dialogue 13 immediately took on the identity of being self-important. The question stem
of “what would you do” easily allowed for responders to tell a wish but, all the same, contributed
to a lack of reasoned moves. Participants for the most part were very interested in engaging to
promote a personal aspiration but were unconcerned with providing reasons for their choices or
with inquiring deeper about the wishes of others. While 22 of 24 students present participated in
Dialogue 13, 18 of those 22 participants delivered at least one non-reasoned response (NR). Only
Niles, Tripp, and Elizabeth refrained from uttering a non-reasoned response (NR); however,
Niles made only 2 total moves – both off-topic (TS). In total, 46 of 92 moves of dispute were
spoken in the form of non-reasoned responses (50%). During this dialogue, like none prior,
several students engaged with an air of jocularity and playfulness. As can be witnessed within
the following excerpt, comical utterances often led others to join in with a more playful regard as
well:
Mr. Herr: Dialogue number 13; the question that won the vote that was posted on
Edmodo: What would you do on the last day of your life? Let’s start off with you,
Kasey. Go ahead.
Kasey: I would make sure that I leave debt for my children.
Kathy: Oh, I would probably do all my bucket list. Yeah. Marcus.
Marcus: Pass. Javier.
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Javier: Pass. William.
William: I would taze myself. (Great laughter)
Kasey: (non-identifying) Why? Why would you taze yourself?
William: Because since I found out what a Taser was long time ago, I’ve always
wanted to see what it felt like. (Great laughter)
Niles: Did you like that taste?
William: Huh?
Niles: Did you like that taste?
William: I don’t like getting tazed. I want to get tazed, but I never been tazed.
Becca: (non-identifying) What kind of Taser? (Great laughter). Is it the one that you
can hold up or like the electrocuting pads?
William: Like this, and it has a little thing right here. Okay, Jamie
Notice how William participated off the initial move of Kasey and thus engaged in what he
sensed was a non-thoughtful discourse. Through William’s desire for wanting to be “tazed”,
Niles misperceived that he had said “taste” and moved the dialogue further off-topic than even
William had attempted. Becca next joined in playfully with an attempt to keep the subject on
William’s absurd request. This sequence came to exemplify the gist of a dialogue that would
bring forth only one substantial interjection from me as facilitator – a sign in past talks indicative
that exploratory, student moves occurred with less frequency. More often than not, procedural
interjections (17 total) were uttered by me in attempt to keep the talk moving toward a thoughtful
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deliverance of ideas. Yet once the discussion became a personal forum for stating aspirations for
how participants would spend their last living hours, the quest for exploration became greatly
diminished.
Becca, in sensing a lull in the discussion, made a prompt-changing topic shift early in
Dialogue 13:
This is kind of an added on question to this one. Say it’s the last day of your like. Are
you suffering? Because you could be dying of old age or dying of heart failure or
some kind of organ failure or you could be completely immobilized. What if you
were completely immobilized? What would you do then? Trevor.
While Becca’s change in topic direction was not immediately acknowledged by the first speakers
to follow her, Kasey, a good friend of hers, when called upon turned the conversation toward
Becca’s new prompt – which still included a “what if you were” stem. The resulting exchange
brought William back into the talk and elicited firm procedural comments from me in an attempt
to better direct the dialogue toward a semblance of seriousness:
Kasey: Okay, so I’m going to sort of answer Becca’s question because she had two.
Are you suffering? And what was the other one?
Becca: If you were immobile.
Kasey: Well, if I was immobile, I would probably ask my daughter, my daughter or
my son to bake a cake for me. (Laughter) And then if I were suffering, I would want
to die. If I were going to die, I wouldn’t want to die of old age. I would probably want
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to die of cancer or something. Like something quick, and then I would go to a petting
zoo. William.
William: Um, if I was – to try to answer those questions – if I was immobilized, I
would probably want to get in one of those carts that Stephen Hawking has and then I
would want to run into a wall. And then if I was just suffering –
Mr. Herr: William, I have a question for you. Are you taking the dialogue seriously or
not?
William: Uh, seriously.
Mr. Herr: It seems to me like you’re not, but I’ll let you continue on anyway.
William: And if I was suffering, I would ask my sister to bring me like – I don’t know
– something to make me feel better like… an Elmo video or something. And then I
would slowly die. Or like just (inaudible). Uh, Calvin.
Although the more playful moves of Dialogue 13 subsided following my concerned question to
William, the talk never took on a distinctive progression toward reasoning. While subsequently,
thoughtful tones from vocal moves emerged, participants could not muster past, as a whole,
desires to list wishes absent of reasoned talk.
There occurred only once, throughout the 28 minute dialogue, a pocket of exploratory
moves resembling Community of Inquiry. Tripp made moves to categorize students into two
groups depending on whether or not they would remain active or docile on the last day of their
life. In pursuit of ground-rule 12, find agreement, Tripp took initiative to end Dialogue 13 by
way of seeking a unanimous vote for one side or the other. Although he was unsuccessful in his
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bid to end discussion of our main topic, Tripp engaged in an exploratory manner. He had it in his
mind from the beginning that the topic question was faulty in progressing the class toward
inquiry and chose to engage, democratically, to end discussion over a question that was not
eliciting deep thinking out loud. When interviewed following the dialogue about the quality of
the topic question, Tripp indicated:
I didn’t have a direct answer at all. I tried to figure out a way to finish the question,
but only a couple of people paid attention to it.
The ensuing excerpt details Tripp’s intent to seek agreement to end Dialogue 13. The dynamics
which emerged resulted in the most exploratory sequence delivered during Dialogue 13:
Tripp: Everybody who would do something before they died raise your hand.
Kathy: Wait, what did you say?
Cindy: I couldn’t hear him.
Kasey: Everyone who would do something when you died, raise your hand.
Calvin: I’m dying and I want to do something fun.
Tripp: Everybody who would sit and wait there to die, raise your hand.
Mr. Herr: What are your totals?
Tripp: You raised your hand for the first one, right?
Mr. Herr: Yes, I did.
Tripp: Alright, so 16 people would actually do something; 5 people would sit there.
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Mr. Herr: So 16 and 5?
Tripp: Yes. We need to change those five people’s minds or the 16 people’s minds.
Mr. Herr: Okay, good idea. Good idea, Tripp. Do call on the next though – if you’re
done.
Tripp: Becca.
Becca: I am one of the five people who would sit there and die. When you say do
something, do you mean something extravagant and like have a party and do stuff
like that?
Tripp: I mean by sit there and wait as in like –
Elizabeth: Literally.
Tripp: Yeah, literally sit there on a sofa doing whatever in your house like a normal
day.
Becca: Well, I would – say I was like in a hospital – this is how I picture it; I’m really
sick, going to die, and I’m immobilized – that’s why I said I was immobilized. This is
how I think I might die. I’d make sure my will is finished, and make sure the payment
is distributed before I die so there is no problems after I die and nobody’s fighting and
my children getting all in arguments and stuff like that.
Within the last selection, Kasey, Becca and Elizabeth focused their thoughts more outwardly. In
regard to Kasey and Becca, this outward, respectful exchange in relationship to Tripp’s request
emerged as the only sequence in which those two girls did not utter a non-reasoned response
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(NR). Between Kasey and Becca, 12 of 46 total non-reasoned moves (NR) were delivered
(26%). Also, beyond Tripp’s initial lack of acknowledgement of Cindy (RE), his previous
speaker, no other moves of idea-disrespect occurred within the excerpt provided. This last
sequence even included the one substantial interjection posed by me: I was engaged with Tripp
and noticed the dialogue statistics he was logging in his class notebook.
While more student inquiries were offered during Dialogue 13 (34 of 58 Explorations)
than during any other talk to date, less than half (15 questions) were of the critical nature:
divergent (DQ), assessment (AQ), or information (IQ). Nineteen of 34 total student questions
were spoken as either requests for reasons (RR) or requests for clarification/restatement.
Interestingly, Elizabeth alone offered 8 of 15 critical questions for the talk, and Mallory (the one
student whose prior skills of exploration had exceeded others) was absent from class. In this
regard I wondered how the dynamics of Dialogue 13 might have been different if Mallory had
been present for the talk. I even presented her with the 10 initial question choices upon her return
and asked her to identify ones in which she would have voted. She intriguingly chose the “why”
stem question that received one fewer vote during the election tally. If Mallory had been present,
there would have been a run-off vote and the dynamics as a whole may have transpired
differently altogether. Table 20 visually details the discourse flow and codes established during
Dialogue 13.
Table 20
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 13 – Non-Textually Generated Topic #4
Participants Explorations Disputes Agree Pass
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Kasey RR/RR/CR/POS/RR/CR/CR/rr NR/NR/RE/AR/RE/TS/NR/NR
rr 0 0
Kathy RR/rr RE/NR/NR/NR 0 0
Marcus rr/rr/IQ/DQ RE/NR/NR/TS/RE 0 0
Javier rr RE/NR 0 0
William POS/RR/CR/CR/ID/POS RE/NR/NR/NR/NR/NR 0 0
Niles TS/TS 0 2
Becca DQ/DQ/RR/CR/CR/CR/AQ/RR TS/RE/NR/RE/NR/NR/TS/NR/NR/NR/NR
POS/rr NR 0 0
Jamie POS RE/NR/RE/AR 0 0
Trevor RR/POS/RR/POS RE/NR/NR/NR 0 0
Calvin POS RE/NR/NR/NR/TS/NR/RE/NR/NR/TS/TS
RE/AR/TS/TS/AR 0 0
Everett rr 0 2
Tripp ID/CR/ID/IQ/ID/ID/CR RE/RE 0 0
Piper POS NR/NR/TS/NR/NR 0 0
April RE/NR 0 0
Maria AQ/ID RE/AR/NR 0 1
Aaron W. RE/NR 0 1
Shannon NR 0 0
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Michelle NR 0 2
Cindy rr RE/NR 0 0
Ron NR/TS/RE/NR 0 0
Audrey 0 1
Elizabeth DQ/DQ/DQ/IQ/DQ/IQ/DQ/DQ AR/RB/RB/RE 0 0
Aaron C. RE/TS/NR 0 1
Ana 0 1
22 speakers 58 92 0 11
Facilitated moves: Procedural interjections – 17; Substantial interjections – 1
For a 28 minute talk, Dialogue 13 registered a total of 150 moves. A pivotal reason for
such a high frequency of moves in a shorter period of time was the fact that most moves offered
lacked a reasoned addition to the idea presented. Many students offered their aspirations for how
they would want to spend their last hours alive; however, only 6 statements of position (POS)
were attributed to the total of moves. By comparison to previous dialogues, statements of
position (POS) were mostly tallied in the 20s and 30s. This seemed to indicate that participants
were delivering short thoughts, absent of reasoned explanations – positions that would become
identified as moves of exploration. While Disputes (92 of 150 total moves) exceeded
Explorations (58 of 150) 61% to 39%, the syntax of the main topic question did not lead this
dialogue toward exploration. In essence, the 11 passes to speak (which proved greater than
during any other previous talk) were also an indication that this prompt was not constructed to
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elicit exploration. A request for personal, inward sharing did not appeal to several of these 11
who passed. Even lead-speakers such as Niles and Aaron C. refrained from joining in as often as
usual. Aaron C. arrived late in the talk, but he normally had not passed on any opportunity to join
in vocally. The construction of the main question for Dialogue 13 seemed to also affect the depth
to which a discussion might delve. Prompting participants to speak in accordance to what they
would “do” under certain circumstances had not always initiated increased levels of critical and
caring talk. What had been observed from analyses of the combined talks was that chosen topic
questions that elicit participants to take a side also helpd them to construct reasons in support of
initiated opinions.
Dialogue 13 may well have exhibited an identifiable difference in dynamics if absent
students had been present on the day of the talk. Dominant-speaker Aaron C. was out for much
of the discussion, and Mallory, as mentioned earlier, was absent entirely. As shown visually by
Table 20, lead-speaker Elizabeth joined Dialogue 13 as one of the last participants to enter, yet
she involved herself more in exploration than in dispute. Elizabeth’s eight Explorations were
made up entirely of critical inquiries as she mainly spoke inquisitively in curiosity of how others
might accomplish the extravagant wishes indicated on their last day alive. In further analysis,
Elizabeth and Tripp were the only participants to deliver more Explorations than Disputes, but
only Elizabeth’s exploratory utterances were exclusively critical.
At the conclusion of Dialogue 13, several students indicated that the central question was
not engaging for them and asked for me submit topics in the future. This was exemplified most
by the absence of deliveries from lead-speakers Shannon and Ron. Between the two of them,
there materialized five total moves – all in dispute. During post-dialogue interview sessions,
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Shannon, Becca, and Piper provided similar quotations regarding why the question was not a
good one to discuss:
Shannon: There really wasn’t much room to explore; it’s an opinion.
Becca: Any question that begins with the word “what” is an opinionated question.
Piper: It didn’t leave room to explore; it just gave opinions. And there was no way to
technically question anybody on that.
Yet when I posed a question about whether or not I, as facilitator, should choose upcoming
dialogue questions for the class, the responses were decidedly one-sided as well:
Becca: No, because it’s less interesting if we have somebody choose what we’re
going to talk about.
Tripp: No, because it would be taking away our rights to choose what we want to talk
about.
Piper: No, because I guess we should have the freedom to choose ourselves. We
could choose better questions, but we don’t always choose the better questions.
Also certain about the overall quality of the topic question for Dialogue 13 was the class in its
post-talk Likert scale rating. Dialogue 13 received a mean Likert-rating of 1.6, the lowest of any
dialogue question prior. The class as a whole seemed to be in acknowledgment that such a
question did not promote definitive explorations or disputes – traits a majority of class finds
interesting in a discussion. In fact, Dialogue 13’s question received zero 5.0 ratings but received
eighteen 1.0s – the lowest possible rating on the 5-point Likert survey. Similarly, on the exit
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survey given after all talks were observed, not one student indicated the question for Dialogue 13
rated as his or her best overall to discuss.
Class Dialogue 14 – December 18, 2014: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma – “The
Afghan Goatherds (36:46).
The final observed class dialogue for this study derived from a factual quandary found in
the text of Michael Sandel’s book, Justice: What’s the Right Thing to Do? (2009). In Chapter 1,
“Doing the Right Thing,” Sandel presents a timely moral dilemma related to predicaments
existent in the theatre of modern warfare. The text, entitled “The Afghan Goatherds,” tells of a
situation by which four U.S. Navy SEALs on a secretive reconnaissance mission come across
four local, unarmed goatherds as they approached a target in the mountainous region of
Afghanistan. The soldiers, not having any rope with which to tie-up the goatherds (in case they
might leave to alert the Taliban), figured that they had only two options: to kill the goatherds or
to set them free. After deliberating, the SEALs, led by Petty Officer Marcus Luttrell decided to
take a vote to determine action. With one soldier abstaining, the vote ended up 2 to 1 in favor of
allowing the goatherds to go free -- Luttrell himself casted the deciding vote he came later to
regret. Less than an hour and a half later, the SEALs were surrounded by eighty to one-hundred
armed Taliban fighters who killed all but Luttrell. He managed to radio for help and to escape
into the Pashtun Mountains – pursued and on his own for days following. An added issue
occurred with the rescue helicopter that arrived on the scene to deal with the Taliban. The
Afghan fighters were able to shoot down the helicopter, killing all 16 soldiers on board.
Protected by local, anti-Taliban sympathizers for several days, Officer Luttrell was finally
rescued as returned to safety. Following the ordeal, in hindsight, Officer Luttrell came to despise
the decision he made to let the Afghan goatherds free. He had made the decision, he claims,
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because he possesses a Christian soul which told him it was wrong to kill unarmed seemingly
non-combatants. Looking back however, Officer Luttrell has come to consider his deciding vote
as the “stupidest decision I had ever made” – a decision that has come to haunt him since it
occurred in June 2005.
The process for determining a topic question for Dialogue 14 enlisted five student and
one facilitator submission. The five student submissions originated from the Want to Learn
section of the distributed K-W-L charts, used during every observed talk. My topic inquiry
derived from a question posed by Sandel (2009) at the conclusion of his excerpt, “The Afghan
Goatherds”: Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing? My submission to the dry-erase board
received 15 of 25 votes and edged out question 4, which received 14 votes. During the process of
choosing the dialogue question, I did not inform students that my submission, question 1, derived
from me. I simply wrote it on the board before calling on the first student to call out his or her
question, saying nothing about its origination.
As for a review of the 12 ground-rules before discussion, I took time to purposefully talk
briefly about the context of each one. As I had done during several reviews before, I gave special
attention to ground-rule 9: Be prepared to change your mind. Due to consistent unchallenged
deliveries by lead-speakers during recent talks, I felt it important to make this address
purposefully to those more dominant participants. I indicated to the class that there were a
handful of students present who say a great deal during a dialogue, but that, many times, their
thoughts and ideas go unquestioned. I informed the class that I felt it only right to have a
discourse environment whereby everybody’s ideas were not only accepted at face-value but also
challenged. This challenging of lead-speaker ideas, I said, could help to create a more critical and
deep conversation – one that promoted greater individual learning and growth.
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Dialogue 14 began as many talks had begun before: Lead-speakers took control of the
floor, first to deliver unreasoned responses (NR) and then next to argue without inserting any
inquiry or statement of position (POS). Ron, Calvin, Elizabeth, Shannon, and Aaron C. exhibited
a status-quo that had been witnessed since the beginning of Dialogue 1. However, once Aaron C.
called on Mallory, approximately five minutes into the discussion, the entire flow and dynamics
of Dialogue 14 changed. Mallory’s logical deduction (ID) and statement of position on topic
(POS) within her first turn initiated nearly six consecutive minutes of exploratory talk from a
host of dominant speakers. Remarkably, only a few short dispute moves from Calvin and Kathy
interrupted the flow of inquiry and exploration during this sequence. Interestingly, only one
move of previous-speaker disregard (from Kathy) was issued. The following selection is an
excerpt from this initial flow of inquiry that eventually led to others within Dialogue 14:
Mallory: I agree with Aaron that he couldn’t know that because it says that an hour
and a half after he let them go, they were attacked. So, it could have been the
goatherds that told the Taliban they were there but it couldn’t have not been. He
didn’t know that they were going to tell these people that they were there or not. So,
he was debating because they were these seemingly unarmed goatherds that – I think
by letting them go, they were just doing their thing; they were herding their goats –
whatever goatherds do – and he didn’t think it was right to just kill them because they
maybe could tell them. Uh, Becca.
Becca: Okay, um, I have to disagree with you in some ways but agree with you in
other ways and with most of the people that have already spoken. Um, I mainly agree
with Elizabeth and Ron how it’s either kill or be killed. But in both ways he did do
right. He did the right thing by letting the people live; he did the wrong thing by not
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noticing that he would have found a death sentence with letting them go. As a soldier,
he did the wrong thing but as a Christian, he did the right thing – what Ron said. And
if – even if you think he did – even if you think that Christians shouldn’t sign up for
the military, and plan on being a soldier, then they don’t respect their country because
soldiers fight for their country. Even if it does involve killing, I still don’t think that
they should kill. I think they should negotiate a little bit more than fight but he didn’t
do the right thing and he didn’t do the wrong thing – kinda in the middle of the
decision.
Calvin: (not called upon) For a Christian or a country – this country is God’s
kingdom. Our country –
Mr. Herr: That’s not a question.
Calvin: Yeah, so I’m asking –
Mr. Herr: It should come first.
Calvin: Okay. Um, what makes you think that?
Becca: Well, right now we’re here and so we should live here for now and go
wherever we go. But since we are here in our life for some zero to some 80 to a
hundred years (some maybe shorter), we should still help people here.
Calvin: Uh, isn’t there a better way to help the country than killing people?
Becca: Exactly. That’s what I said. You should negotiate more than kill, but he still
did the wrong thing and the right thing – which is weird decision but it’s true. I know
you think it’s the wrong thing, but I don’t.
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Calvin: If he was a soldier, shouldn’t he expect to be in one of those situations and try
preventing that and just being a regular citizen?
Becca: Yes and he should try to avoid, and say that if they – the goatherders were on
top of the hill, instead of the bottom. If had of seen that, he should have gone around
them instead of up the hill, running into them.
Mr. Herr: Calvin, you’re making interesting strides just now. I like the conversation
back and forth but we do have others who want to join in, so Becca, I’m going to let
you call.
Becca: Uh, Marcus.
Marcus: Um, I agree with Becca. I mean it’s in-between. He could have – he did the
wrong thing and the right thing, I mean it’s just in-between. I agree with him because
– like with his Christian soul. He did the right thing but you know he’s risking his life
with his team or the army or the – he’s risking everybody else’s life – I mean, it’s in-
between. Kathy.
Kathy: I agree you could either be killed or kill them. And then, I’m going to question
Mallory. You said that that he didn’t know and they were just innocent shepherds or
goatherds that were herding their goats, but in this story it says that shortly after they
were surrounded, so how do you know they were innocent?
Mallory: But Kathy, that’s just my point. You don’t know that they might have been
the goatherds that they saw, and they went off and told the Taliban later and they
were attacked. He didn’t know that they were going to tell them that letting them go
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would definitely lead to their being attacked. He just listened to what his conscious
told him, and his conscious was telling him that it was the right thing to let these three
people go. They were unarmed and he didn’t know what would happen later.
Kathy: So wouldn’t you kill them if you didn’t know because you wouldn’t want to
take that chance?
Mallory: Isn’t the right thing to – well, what if – so, say they didn’t; they were just
goatherds and they had no associations with the Taliban whatsoever. Is it the right
thing to kill people just because they might lead to your own death? The key word,
“might.”
Kathy: I would say yes, accept that’s a very risky chance, so – um, Niles.
Niles: Yeah, I kinda agree with her and I kinda disagree with you, Mallory. Right
now because he has a Christian soul, I know it’s really hard to – but I guess if they’re
on a mission, that they have to keep that and it’s not just like a normal person holding
a gun; it’s soldiers so there’s like a – and since they are in Afghanistan – people in
Afghanistan don’t want the U.S. soldiers to come to them and even the helicopter was
shot down. Probably the government knew that the U.S. soldiers were there, so he’s
not risking his own life. I think there’s like a bunch of other soldiers with him and
most of them died because the main reason that that happened was that they let them
go. So I think that he should have killed him I guess. I know he had a Christian soul,
but it’s right since he’s on a mission. Uh –
Mr. Herr: So, missions take priority over doing the right thing? Niles, is that correct?
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Niles: Well, right now like what I’m saying is like – of course he’s got a Christian
soul, so it’s going to be a hard decision for him, but right now he’s on a mission and
if he –
Mr. Herr: So –
Niles: -- if he takes a risk, he’s not going to be the only one to die and there’s going to
be like a bunch of other people with him and so he’s betting a whole entire life
because he’s the commander of that place and if he makes a wrong decision, probably
almost everyone is going die, so that’s all I wanted to say.
Mr. Herr: So being a commander means you don’t have to do the right thing, right?
Niles: I’m just thinking he’s betting. He’s not betting his own life; he’s betting a
bunch of other people, so he shouldn’t try to take risks all the time. Those three
people are innocent but there’s a lot of chances that the U.S. soldiers are here.
Mr. Herr: Okay.
Niles: Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Okay, and also you have to think about if I – if I were them, what were the
people that were unarmed?
Beyond a flow representative of Community of Inquiry, other dynamics arose within the
narrative of the last excerpt. Once Calvin received a procedural admonishment from me for
interrupting Becca without posing a question (interrupting with inquiry is an acceptable form of
interjection), he indicated a change in his thinking out loud, identified by future deliveries of
critical inquiry for the remainder of the sequence. Also, interesting to note were moves delivered
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by Kathy. Often noted for joining in to initiate a position or inquiry, only to lose her train of
thought, devolving toward a non-reasoned response, Kathy was able to enter in during this
sequence with consecutive critical inquiries (AQ). It seemed that Mallory’s engagement, within
the excerpt as well as at the beginning, triggered those lead-speakers who followed her to speak
in a reasoned manner. Midway through Dialogue 14, she again prompted those akin to joining in
with dispute to enter in exploration:
Mallory: The thing is that the lives of the soldiers and the lives of the goatherds were
the same because all lives are equal, obviously. Everyone has things people care
about them, et cetera. But you said there was a 50/50 chance like the goatherds may
have told the Taliban they were there and they may not have. Obviously, letting them
go is taking a very big risk. Right? But they didn’t know, right? Then Officer Luttrell
made a decision; he was relying on his conscious that it would be the right thing to let
these people go because, hey, they might not tell on us because if you were in that
situation, you said it was the wrong thing letting them go, why?
Jamie: I mean because it was like a chance that the goatherds would have told that
they were there. I mean, they were there because –
Mallory: Is it wrong to take a chance or is it wrong to kill innocent people?
Jamie: Okay, I just changed my mind. I think he did the right thing.
Mr. Herr: Probably you, Mallory.
Mallory: Kathy.
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Kathy: I’m confused of why he keeps saying he didn’t know because he has other
men with him so he’s taking a really risky chance. If he didn’t know, wouldn’t you
want to kill them because if they were on the Taliban side then they could – they
could tell the Taliban people that you’re here when you let them go, and you have
other men with you, so you’re risking their lives too and your own life, so if you
didn’t know, wouldn’t you just kill it just because that’s such a risky chance so if you
let them go, they would have told but if you would have killed them, then you could
have captured the Taliban people.
Mallory: Well, obviously I know that it’s a really big risk like if you let these people
go, you could definitely die and your men too, but I still think it’s better to take a big
risky chance than to just kill innocent people. So, Niles. (Interrupted.)
Kasey: I have a question for everybody. You know there was a 50/50 chance that he
could save those people and his people too or there was a chance that he could let the
people go and they would die. Wouldn’t you take also the chance of saving three
innocent lives and your life?
Elizabeth: I would not take a chance to save their lives. I know that sounds really
selfish, I know but there could be like an effect – I don’t know how to put that. Um,
but anyways, I just wouldn’t do it because I don’t like that chance at all. So – Everett.
Everett: Pass. Aaron.
Aaron C.: Okay, this is to Kasey’s question. So, they sort of did the right thing. But I
would have killed them because there’s still that 50 percent chance that all of them
would have died – the four got to do what you got to do –
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Mr. Herr: Aaron, but didn’t the three U.S. Navy SEALs go out that day thinking that
today could be the day I die because I’m in the Navy SEALs and I’m in Afghanistan,
but did the goatherds go out that day going, today’s the day I’m going to die? What
do you think?
This selection was indicative of another exploratory sequence that was triggered by
Mallory but was achieved mainly by lead-speakers. A customary dynamic by which our
dominant speakers engaged more for dispute was being challenged by these few sequences of
greater exploration. Participants like Jamie and Kathy, known for initiating at least one argument
during the course of a talk, did not utter even one between them. As happened in the last excerpt,
Mallory’s critical questions for Jamie were eventually replied to with a lack of reasoning, and
likewise, Kathy joined in twice with a disregard for topic and speaker. On the whole, these two
lead-speakers were making consistent vocal moves toward exploration. Moreover, while
procedural interjections occurred with high frequency from me (24 moves), my 10 substantial
interjections were brought about because of the consistent sequences of student exploration. As
the presence of student-exploration had been a triggering motive, leading me to inquire
throughout our observed talks, the dynamics exhibited within Dialogue 14 again provided
foundations for a classroom community to exist. Like Dialogues 6, 10, and 11 before it, Dialogue
14 resulted in a whole-class talk worthy of being identified as exploratory. Table 21 provides a
visual model indicative of the order and coded utterances present in Dialogue 14.
Table 21
Discourse Coding Indicator – Dialogue 14 – Philosophical/Moral Dilemma #4
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Participants Explorations Disputes Agree Pass
Ron POS/RR NR/NR/RE/AR/RE/AR/AR/CA 0 0
Calvin RR/DQ/IQ/IQ/RR/POS/POS AR/TS/NR/TS/AR/AR/AR/CA/AR/RE/AR
RB/RE/TS/AR/TS 0 0
Elizabeth POS/CR/POS/POS RE/AR/AR 0 0
Shannon POS RB/RE 0 0
Aaron C. POS/POS/POS/POS/POS TS/CA/NR 0 0
Mallory ID/POS/POS/POS/DQ/ID/AQ/IQ
POS 0 0
Becca POS/POS/POS/POS/AQ/ID/CR/ AR/RB/RB
POS/IQ/ID 2 0
Marcus POS 1 0
Kathy AQ/AQ/AQ RE/NR/RE 0 0
Niles ID/POS/POS/POS/POS 1 0
Audrey POS RE 0 0
Kasey POS/DQ/POS/DQ RE/RE 0 0
Jamie POS/POS/POS NR/NR 0 0
Everett 0 2
Tripp IQ/IQ/CR/ID 0 0
Maria DQ/CR/DQ RE/RB 0 0
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15 speakers 62 45 4 2
Facilitator moves: Procedural interjections – 24; Substantial interjections – 10
Fifteen of 25 students present joined in to Dialogue 14 -- 10 of those 15 participants had
been identified as lead-speakers at some point in the analyses of this study. However, different
from the visual representations provided by tables from other discourses, the coding indicator for
Dialogue 14 shows a distinctly frequent pattern of Explorations delivered by lead-speakers.
While Dialogue 11 (“A Sound of Thunder”) indicated a great conglomeration of Explorations for
lead-speakers, only Dialogue 6 (“Frederick”) rivaled Dialogue 14 in producing as many lead-
speakers who spoke mainly with exploratory utterances. Dialogue 14 produced six lead-speakers
whose moves of exploration were greater in number than their moves of dispute; Dialogue 6
produced five of these lead-speakers. While Dialogue 14 included a smaller number of vocal
participants (15), their expressions as a whole were more exploratory than in any other observed
dialogue. Forty-four of 62 moves, 71% of Explorations, were delivered by lead-speakers during
Dialogue 14. The results of this dialogue also indicated that 10 total participants gave more
exploratory moves than they did disputations. Only Dialogue 6 produced more purely
exploratory participants, with 11 students.
Disputes uttered during Dialogue 14 (45 moves), as indicated, did not exceed those of
Explorations (62 moves). Aside from secure-speakers Ron and Calvin, no other participant (lead-
speaker or otherwise) delivered more than three moves in dispute. Noticeably absent from
Dialogue 14 was a higher frequency of disregards for previous speakers (RE). Only 11
disregards (RE) were coded, and those longer sequences of exploratory moves (as analyzed
earlier) seemed to contribute to the absence of disputational moves of disregard. Other utterances
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of dispute were also spoken at lower frequencies throughout Dialogue 14. Arguments (AR = 13
moves), rebuttals (RB = 5 moves), counter-arguments (CA = 3 moves), non-reasoned responses
(NR = 7 moves), and topic-shifts (TS = 5 moves) contributed to a total of 33 of 45 disputational
moves (73% of Disputes). In total, those 45 moves of dispute were revealed to be the lowest
amount uttered in any of the previous 13 talks. Due to the amount of time spent speaking in
exploration, disputational moves were not commonly delivered during Dialogue 14.
Cumulative moves of agreement were also not delivered with significance. Only 4 moves
of agreement were offered during the course of Dialogue 14. This incidence was somewhat
surprising in that the nature of the topic question required a taking of sides. Thusly, a taking of
sides often times elicited disagreement and agreement in greater frequency. During Dialogue 14
however, a greater frequency of participants answering student inquiries and posing their own in
return came to describe the dynamic present. Likewise, as indicated from the post-talk, Likert
survey, the topic question for Dialogue 14 was well received. Twenty-five students gave a mean
score of 3.8 out of 5.0 to the question: Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing? Eight students
gave the question a 5.0, contributing to the overall mean score, and two students rated the topic
question as the best of all 14 on the post-observation exit survey.
Part II: Textual and Non-Textual Influences
As a focus of this study, I analyzed the narrative responses of seventh-graders in order to
explore and understand the dynamics existent within whole-class discourses. As the class
facilitator of these talks, I was enthusiastic to document and analyze how various types of texts
(some required by my school’s curriculum and some not) influenced students’ vocal projections
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of their thoughts. The interpretation of Research Question 1 (RQ1) encompassed the dialogue
narratives of 14 observed discussions, broken into four categories:
Research Question 1: How do traditional/classical stories, philosophical stories/moral
dilemmas, factual narratives, and non-textually generated prompts influence early
adolescents’ thinking out loud within facilitated whole-class dialogues?
As stated by RQ1, different types of read-aloud short stories, non-fiction narratives and
speeches, famous moral dilemmas, and the inclusion of non-textual inquiries from the class
prompted this class of 25 seventh-graders to think out loud.
Following read-aloud sessions the class period before each discussion, students were
prompted to construct deep, philosophical questions for potential consideration by the whole
group. Students either constructed questions in class before the talks on their K-W-L notes chart
or away from class -- online on our social learning website, Edmodo®. On occasion I also
supplied a question to the list of student inquiries. These questions were then posted and made
visible for voting on the classroom’s main dry-erase board. The process of voting for a dialogue
topic question involved students raising a hand for as many of the posted questions as they
wished. After the voting for Dialogue 1’s entries seemed to elicit a good deal of peer-pressure
votes, all other ensuing elections called for students to vote with their heads down. Once a main
topic question was determined, I reviewed 12 ground-rules important for achieving an
exploratory discussion with the class (Mercer and Dawes, 2008). After the 12 group-norms were
covered, facilitation of our talks began.
Dialogues 1, 5, 9 and 13: Non-textually generated topics.
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Non-Textually Generated Topics, those that might arise from general student interest,
have been identified by both Freire and Shor (1970, 1992) as catalysts toward the promotion of
whole-group authentic, critical talk. Shor (1992) recognized student problem-posing as a bridge
between the types of engagement often present within teacher-led discussions and the more
relaxed and informal nature of peer-to-peer conversations. Shor noticed that students, when
given autonomous opportunities to supplant their own problems of interest into the realm of a
class dialogue, vocally began to discourse with critical depth in a relaxed and open tone. Shor
referred to this merging of interactive dichotomies as a venture into the third idiom – a form of
talk that bridged the traditional, didactic utterances of lecturers with the typically uncritical
openness exhibited through peer-to-peer familiarity (Shor, 1992).
The four non-textually based topics posed in this study covered a wide gamut of interests.
From song-lyrics to school rivalries, animal concerns to likely activities in the final hours of life,
these topics presented an array of differing opportunities for students to enter into the third
idiom. Dialogue 1’s topic led with a reason-eliciting stem of “why”, yet the questions posed for
Dialogues 5 and 9 were presented as close-ended, side-taking prompts that provoked either/or
responses. Dialogue 13’s question prompted participants to speak about personal aspirations
without necessarily engaging them in critical reasoning. Regularly, what was witnessed during
all four of these dialogues was a greater volume of disputational student talk than was vocalized
during those discussions derived out textual content. All four Non-Textually Generated Topics
resulted in a greater difference between Disputes than Explorations. No other category of
observation – Philosophical/Moral dilemmas, Classical Fiction, or Factual Narratives produced
an average wider margin between Explorations and Disputes (38) than did discussions derived
from student-interest topics. Table 22 shows the relationship between questions posed and the
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categorized moves of participants during Dialogues 1, 5, 9, and 13. Here, N = the number of
vocally engaged participants and Moves = the total number of utterances recorded. For Totals,
19.8 (N) refers to an average number of participants observed during Non-Textually Generated
talks.
Table 22
Non-Textually Generated Dialogue Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves
Question N Explorations Disputes Agreements Moves
1 Why don’t we pay attention to lyrics? 14 14 56 18 88
5 Which school is better, TLA or CKA? 22 41 75 6 122
9 Should we kill animals? 21 53 95 17 165
13 What would you do…last day? 22 58 92 0 150
Totals 19.8 166 318 41 525
As is indicated by Table 22, the volume of participant vocal moves (Moves) increased
with each dialogue engagement. While the number of Explorations rose with each non-textually
related talk, Disputes gradually rose as well – except for a slight dip in disputational moves from
Dialogue 9 to Dialogue 13. What remains consistent throughout the analysis of all four
discussions is the margin of moves between Explorations and Disputes. Explorations here never
rivaled Disputes in volume of moves in any of the four dialogues. Disputes contributed to 61%
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of all moves while Explorations made up 32% of all moves. Interestingly, Dialogues 1 and 9
elicited the highest amount of agreement moves of any of the 14 observed talks at 18 and 17
moves respectively. A reason for a greater influx of cumulative moves within Dialogues 1 and 9
can be attributed to the newness of dialogue involvement existent throughout our first talk and
the polarizing syntax used by Dialogue 9: Should we kill animals? During both Dialogues 1 and
9, agreement talk represented attempts by participants to show respect and an alignment of ideas
with other speakers. On several occasions moves of agreement were issued as solidifications of
friendships between students in the classroom.
Further analysis of Explorations delivered within Dialogue 1, 5, 9, and 13 showed a
gradual decrease in the volume of position statements offered. In Dialogues 1 and 5, statements
of position (POS), an inward expression of exploring, accounted for more than half of all
Explorations issued at 64% and 59% respectively. However, Dialogues 9 and 13, in place of
statements of position, resulted in increases of exploratory inquiries from the participants. In fact,
the total number of questions in exploration posed during Dialogue 9 (26 queries) registered as
the greatest number of inquiries posed by students to that point. Moreover, while Dialogue 13
was chiefly identified as a talk of low reasoned responses, the volume of questions posed by
participants within that discourse (34 questions) was the highest of any of the 14 observed
discussions. It should be noted, however, that 19 of the 34 questions posed by students during
Dialogue 13 were of a non-critical nature; a majority of inquiries were comprised of requests for
restatements (CR) and requests for reasons (RR). Questions of a more critical kind (divergent
questions = DQ, assessment questions= AQ, and information questions= IQ) were delivered 15
of 34 times. Also interesting to discuss was that during Dialogue 13, the number of passed
opportunities in order to elicit engagement from previous non-speakers (rr) registered at nine –
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the most during any of the 14 observed dialogues. Table 23 illustrates a categorical delineation of
this study’s non-textually generated Explorations.
Table 23
Categorized Explorations: Non-Textually Generated Questions
Question POS ID rr RR CR DQ AQ IQ
1 Why don’t we pay attention to lyrics? 9 1 0 0 2 1 1 0
5 Which school is better, TLA or CKA? 24 7 0 3 1 6 0 0
9 Should we kill animals? 23 6 0 3 1 7 1 9
13 What would you do on your last day? 9 6 9 9 10 9 2 4
Totals 65 9 15 14 23 4 13 20
As indicated in Table 23, statements of position (POS) occurred at a greater frequency
during the first three non-textually generated talks than they appeared within Dialogue 13. As the
syntax used to construct Dialogue 13’s question indicates, participants were prompted to respond
personally and inwardly but were not necessarily asked to provide reasoning for their response.
This resulted in a lower volume of positions (POS) uttered overall during Dialogue 13. In
relationship to the syntax used for Dialogue 13’s question, vocal offerings that might have
registered previously as statements of position were delivered as non-reasoned responses.
Because Dialogue 13’s prompt did not elicit a reasoned reply, participants, with greater vocal
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frequency, did not offer complete positions on the topic and likewise had more moves coded as
disputational instead of exploratory.
Also noticeable within Table 23 is an increase in exploratory moves of inquiry from
Dialogue 1 and 5 to Dialogues 9 and 13. This may have been due to the fact that student-
understanding of our ground-rules was more enhanced later in observed talks and that my
promotion of question-asking during those norm-reviews was being implemented. The rise in
critical questions expressed during Dialogues 9 and 13 may have been attributed to different
causes. Dialogue 9, “Should we kill animals?” prompted participants to ask others to provide
background knowledge in addition to their reasoned replies. This delivery of background
positions then prompted student-inquirers to follow-up with more divergent queries. However,
the increase in the volume of critical questions delivered during Dialogue 13 could be attributed
to the moves of inquiry delivered by one participant, Elizabeth. Of the 15 critical questions
spoken during Dialogue 13, Elizabeth offered 8 of those. She emerged as one of only two
participants to have delivered more Explorations than Disputes during the entire talk. Moreover,
Elizabeth was the only participant during Dialogue 13 whose Explorations were delivered
entirely as critical questions: No other observed participant, in a dialogue before or after, would
replicate that distinction.
The volume of Disputes rose steadily as dialogues of Non-Textually Generated Topics
were discussed. As was represented through Table 22, Disputes increased, for the most part,
chronologically as the time table of non-text related questions were discussed. Moves of dispute
increased (aside from the Disputes logged in total for Dialogue 13) steadily with each
progressing discussion. There was an affiliation between the total number of participant moves
spoken and the number of Disputes coded. Table 24 indicates the categorized moves of dispute
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offered during Dialogues 1, 5, 9 and 13, whereby RE = disregard of the previous speaker, PQ =
personal question, AR = argument initiation, RB = rebuttal, CA = counter-argument, NR = non-
reasoned responses, TS = shift in topic, and SD = simply disagreement.
Table 24
Categorized Disputes: Non-Textually Generated Questions
Question RE PQ AR RB CA NR TS SD
1 Why don’t we pay attention to lyrics? 26 0 17 4 1 3 3 0
5 Which school is better, TLA or CKA? 26 0 21 6 4 8 10 0
9 Should we kill animals? 28 3 21 13 1 10 16 0
13 What would you do on your last day? 24 0 6 2 0 46 13 0
Totals 104 3 65 25 6 67 42 0
On average, lack of regard for the previous speaker (RE) occurred more frequently within all
Non-Textually Generated Topic dialogues. These four topics generally elicited strongly held
beliefs from an opinionated group of lead-speakers. When called upon to join in or when they
interrupted the talk, our lead-speakers uttered ideas, arguments, or topic-shifts without providing
words of respect about the content delivered by the immediately preceding speaker. As with the
interpretation of Explorations in Table 23, the discussion of Dialogue 13’s question proved an
outlier in regard to Disputes as well. Arguments (AR) dropped noticeably to a total of 6 and non-
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reasoned responses (NR) rose sharply to 46. Because the question for Dialogue 13 did not plainly
prompt students for a reasoned response, many participants in that talk did not deliver reasoning.
Also, since reasoned position statements (POS) decreased, argumentation (AR) was absent from
the dialogue as well.
Noticeable, however, during discussions of non-textually generated topics was a steady
and leveling rise of topic-shift utterances. In fact, the 42 topic-shifts (TS) coded here accounted
for the greatest volume of shifts in any of the four dialogue groupings. During these non-
textually generated topic talks, shifts were uttered, for the most part as selfish, attention-grabbing
quips. On occasion Calvin, Becca, and Aaron C. would shift the flow of conversation in the
midst of a lengthy argumentative diatribe. Mostly, however, topic-shifts took the form of one-
line wisecracks that would many times redirect a given dialogue toward more dispute. As is
identified by Table 24, dialogue questions 5, 9, and 13 prompted participants take sides in their
responses. I posit that a number of topic-shifts uttered during these talks was a sort of cumulative
offering, delivered to lighten a building mood of argumentation rising within these discussions.
Moves of cumulative agreement occurred with greater frequency during dialogues generated
from non-textual topics, and the 17 moves of agreement offered during Dialogue 9 indicated a
prime example whereby quick, one-line shifts dotted the narrative of a discussion heated with a
controversy over whether or not animals should be killed.
The dynamics of facilitator moves proved intriguing as an indicator of Explorations and
Disputes within dialogues of Non-Textually Generated Topics. Procedural and substantial moves
delivered by me seemed to point to a slight connection between teacher moves and the general
flow of discussions. If I spoke mainly to direct the talk on task or to elicit more speakers
(procedural moves), a given dialogue angled toward becoming defined as disputational.
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However, if I joined in with a greater volume of inquiries regarding our topic of discussion
(substantial moves), the given dialogue as a whole moved toward exploration. In some talks the
flow of student discussion dictated my moves; in others, perhaps, my utterances helped to direct
the vocal moves of students. Table 25 shows a representation of facilitator moves in accordance
with total moves of Explorations and Disputes in Dialogues 1, 5, 9, and 13.
Table 25
Facilitator Moves in Comparison to Student Explorations and Disputes: Non-Textual Talks
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
1 Why don’t we pay attention to lyrics? 8 2 14 56
5 Which school is better, TLA or CKA? 16 9 41 75
9 Should we kill animals? 27 11 53 95
13 What would you do on your last day? 17 1 58 92
Totals 68 23 166 318
Seemingly, the total number of student moves uttered during Non-Textually Generated
Topics increased as the volume of delivered facilitator moves increased. During Dialogues 5 and
9, procedural interjections were delivered with greater frequency due to the dichotomous
responses required by those prompts. Generally, a greater number of procedural moves by me
indicated a dialogue that needed steering back to topic or that lacked a wide range of
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participants. Within Dialogue 5, the talk whereby Marcus and Michelle delivered multiple
informative positions about their stays at TLA, I often spoke procedurally (16 times), prompting
others to join in. However, the high volume of procedural interjections given during Dialogue 9
(27 moves) resulted in facilitator moves to keep the discussion on task. “Should we kill
animals?” elicited 16 topic-shifts (TS) and many of those utterances were redirected back on
topic. As the main question for Dialogue 13 did not promote outward reasoning, substantial
interjections were likewise absent while procedural moves were, once again, delivered (17
moves) generally to redirect participants who wondered off-track (13 topic-shifts). The two
dialogues (5 and 9) in which substantial interjections were greatest did not elicit a narrowing of
the Explorations/Disputes gap as substantial moves in talks focused on moral dilemmas would.
The 11 substantial interjections delivered during Dialogue 9 did not trigger a jump in exploratory
moves by participants, yet a similar number of substantial moves delivered outside non-textually
generated talks would in fact signify a greater number of Explorations. This phenomenon seems
to illustrate that topics generated from student interest would require greater substantial, reason-
eliciting attention from me as facilitator if those talks were to progress toward becoming defined
as exploratory.
At the conclusion of the 14 observed dialogues, an exit survey was provided to all 25
student participants. Along with providing a rating for each dialogue question, a portion of the
exit survey directed students to rate the categories prompting our discussions: Non-Textually
Generated Topics, Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas, Traditional/Classical Fiction, and Factual
Narratives. On a 5-point Likert scale, Non-Textually Generated Topics merited a raw score of 98
and mean average of 3.92. In terms of student interest, Non-Textually Generated Topics rated
second to Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas. Nine of 25 students taking the survey gave these
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student/teacher generated topics the top rating of 5.0. Overall student interest in providing
questions for discussion on our classroom learning site, Edmodo®, was generally better received
when it was again time to submit their own topics. More often than not, questions submitted for
voting for a given non-textual topic were provided in the teens. Several times I had to narrow
down from the original list so that the ones written on the dry-erase board were those that would
provide us the best chance to think out loud.
Dialogues 2, 6, 10 and 14: Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas.
Philosophical/moral dilemmas used in this study were as historic and thought-provoking
as they were short and easily read aloud in one class period. In the case of all four of the
dialogues that transpired from these textual dilemmas, given dilemma-texts were provided in
handout form to the students and read aloud during the same class period that the dialogue took
place. All dilemmas presented in this study, in the scope of philosophical study, focused on the
topic of morality. Dialogue 2 (“The Heinz Dilemma”) caused students to ponder the morality of
stealing; Dialogue 6 (“Frederick”) initiated students to consider aspects of fairness; Dialogue 10
(“The Runaway Trolley”) challenged students to deal with the concept of utilitarian
righteousness with death on the line; Dialogue 14 (“The Afghan Goatherds”) also confronted
students with a life and death quandary – this time in the context of a military decision.
Dialogues 2 and 6 were initiated by student questions receiving votes. Dialogue 10, however,
was engaged by standard questions traditionally attached to each respective text. Dialogue 14
served as the only discourse within the group in which the topic question of choice was
submitted by me among a number of student inquiries.
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During Dialogue 2 vocal participation was generally disputational through 24 minutes of
discourse. Even though lead-speakers dominated later in the talk rather than earlier, and 22 of 25
students present engaged, Dialogue 2 was noticeably devoid of student inquiry. Of the 27
Explorations spoken, 20 were delivered as statements of position (POS). Only five questions
were uttered, three of which were non-critical. Dialogue 6, the first talk to become defined as
exploratory, did not engage as many vocal participants as Dialogue 2, yet the number of speakers
who explored more than they disputed reached 11 – the highest number of Explorations-oriented
students noticed within any of the 14 observed talks. Twenty student-questions were posed
during Dialogue 6 along with 15 substantial facilitator interjections. Dialogue 10 resulted in the
most exploratory moves delivered in any of the 14 observed discussions (84 Explorations). For
the 22 participants, Disputes uttered during Dialogue 10 trumped Explorations by only three
moves. A high volume of non-reasoned responses, totaling 27 moves, were spoken as
participants wrestled with a dilemma of whether or not to pull a switch to divert a runaway
trolley from hitting five or one unaware workers on the trolley tracks. Student inquiry reached 26
questions, and the number of explorers totaled 7 of 22 speakers during Dialogue 10.
Dialogue 14 also came to be defined as exploratory. While only 15 of 25 students
engaged vocally, this talk produced a range of secure and less-secure participants who delivered
Explorations during multiple moves. Lead-speakers even tended to explore more than they
disputed during Dialogue 14. Ten of the 15 participants offered more exploratory moves than
they did moves of dispute, and 7 of those 10 exploratory students were of the dominant speaking
group. Also remarkable during Dialogue 14 was a decrease in student disrespect. Only 11 moves
of previous speaker disregard (RE) were issued – the least amount in any of the 14 observed
talks. Table 26 indicates the relationship between questions posed and responses coded in regard
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to our four moral dilemmas. Again, Totals of N represent the average number of participants
engaging within the grouping of Philosophical/Moral Dilemma prompts.
Table 26
Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Dialogue Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves
Question N Explorations Disputes Agreements Total
2 What would you do in Heinz’s situation? 22 27 64 5 96
6 What is the purpose of “Frederick?” 19 67 47 5 119
10 Do you pull the switch?/Push the man? 22 84 90 13 187
14 Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing? 15 62 45 4 111
Totals 19.5 240 246 27 513
In comparison to the four dialogues of Non-Textually Generated Topics, discussions of
moral dilemmas indicated a slightly different dynamic overall. Other than an outlier as
represented by Dialogue 2, discourses about moral quandaries were either distinctly exploratory
(Dialogues 6 and 14) or very nearly exploratory (Dialogue 10). The average number of vocal
participants was similar to that of non-textual topics (19.5 to 19.8) and the total number of moves
was also very close (513 to 525). Differing aspects could be found within the numbers of
Explorations and Disputes. Deliberating the purpose of “Frederick” and whether or not Officer
Marcus Luttrell did the right thing by letting go three unarmed Afghan goatherds resulted in
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distinctive moves toward exploration and ultimately Community of Inquiry. Very nearly the
utilitarian dilemma of the runaway trolley became defined as an exploratory conversation. This
dialogue (Dialogue 10) produced the most Explorations (84) of any of the 14 talks and no doubt
would have been defined as exploratory if not for the inclusion of 27 non-reasoned responses.
Because the syntactical wording of the question included an inward command (Do “you”
pull…), I believe initial responses became centered on personal statements – not necessarily
exploratory positions that required reasoning. In retrospect, a dialogue question that might have
elicited students to explain their opinion would have prompted some non-reasoning responders to
provide better supported explanations during Dialogue 10.
I believe a similar effect transpired during Dialogue 2, a much more definitively
disputational discussion. The question to answer was, “What would you do in Heinz’s
situation?” Once again the syntax of the prompt initiated participants to provide a personal
opinion but did not necessarily require speakers to elaborate on the reasoning of why they would
do what they suggested. If I was a more observant facilitator, I would have posed a greater
number of substantial moves of inquiry to help flesh out reasoning when it was not initially
provided. However, as this occurred during the second dialogue, I was still mindful of entering
into the talks too much and was interested to see if more students would inquire instead of me.
In all, discussions of moral dilemma texts and situations led participants to explore more
than any other group of questions or categories of literature. Construction of our main questions
did play a part in producing a greater number of Explorations; however, I also believe that the
expediency of which the class was able to read, think about, and openly reflect about the
dilemmas (within the same class period) attributed to the total number of Explorations offered.
Dialogues relating to classical fiction and factual narratives occurred during the class period
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directly following the read-alouds and were denied the benefits of fresh thoughts that were a part
of our talks over moral dilemmas. The categorization of Explorations is represented by Table 27.
Table 27
Categorized Explorations: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Questions
Questions POS ID rr RR CR DQ AQ IQ
2 What would you do in Heinz’s situation? 20 1 1 0 3 2 0 0
6 What was the purpose of “Frederick?” 36 10 0 8 4 6 1 3
10 Do you pull the switch?/Push the man? 47 7 4 6 4 7 6 3
14 Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing? 32 6 0 3 4 4 5 6
Totals 135 24 5 17 15 19 12 15
Most noticeably, statements of position (POS) were offered with more frequency during
dialogues eliciting moral decisions than during discussions of student or teacher interest. Yet in
all eight categories of Explorations, responses spoken during discussions about moral dilemmas
produced more exploratory moves. The total number of questions delivered (RR, CR, DQ, AQ,
IQ), 78 during discussions of morality, exceeded the total number of questions issued during
non-textual topics by nine moves (69 total). Overall the key variable contributing to a decisive
difference between Explorations made within non-text related topics and those posing moral
dilemmas occurred through the deliveries of statements of position (POS). By a margin greater
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than 2-to-1 (135 to 65 moves), participants offered exploratory, reasoned opinions in direct
response to the main topic question of our four dilemma talks. In this sense, participants stayed
on-topic for a longer period of time than they did when thinking out loud during topics of
interest. Table 28 provides a categorical representation showing where participants drifted
toward more disputational ends during Dialogues 2, 6, 10, and 14.
Table 28
Categorized Disputes: Philosophical/Moral Dilemma Questions
Question RE PQ AR RB CA NR TS SD
2 What would you do in Heinz’s situation? 31 0 19 4 1 7 5 0
6 What was the purpose of “Frederick?” 18 0 8 5 2 6 8 0
10 Do you pull the switch?/Push the man? 21 0 20 8 3 27 11 0
14 Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing? 11 0 13 5 3 7 5 0
Totals 81 0 60 22 9 47 29 0
On the whole, Disputes logged during moral dilemma dialogues were low by comparison.
Differences in argumentation, rebuttals, and counter-arguments were not significantly lower than
were delivered during Non-Textually Generated Topics, but differences in moves of disrespect
(RE) and non-reasoned responses (NR) did prove noteworthy. Participants generally were more
acknowledging of previous speakers during discourses of moral topics. Only the discussion over
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Heinz’s dilemma resulted in a disproportionate number of disregards for previous speakers (31
moves). The other three moral discussions elicited more respectful initial engagements into
conversations. Moreover, as can be understood by studying the breakdown of facilitator moves
in accordance with Explorations and Disputes in Table 29, interjections spoken during moral
dilemma dialogues occurred more frequently and with greater substantial deliberateness than
during non-textually generated talks.
Table 29
Facilitator Moves in Comparison to Student Explorations and Disputes: Moral Dilemma Talks
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
2 What would you do in Heinz’s situation? 11 9 27 64
6 What is the purpose of “Frederick?” 12 15 67 47
10 Do you pull the switch?/Push the man? 34 27 84 90
14 Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing? 24 10 62 45
Totals 81 61 240 246
Facilitator moves were delivered with greater frequency during the four moral dilemma
dialogues for several reasons. Aside from the coinciding prompt for Dialogue 2 which did not
poignantly trigger reasoned positions or inquiry from participants, the next three dilemma
questions discoursed impelled students to think deeper and more critically about each
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controversy brought forth. Participants were urged to supply a purpose within Dialogue 6, to
determine a split-second life or death decision within Dialogue 10, and to again quickly decide
on the life or death of local citizens present during a theatre of war. I conclude that these grade 7
participants were not accustomed to deliberating such weighty questions alone, much less within
a class of their peers. In this sense, their responses on the whole were thoughtful without seeming
attitudinal. The topic questions deriving from moral dilemmas elicited more honest responses of
belief. Absent were replies of self-identification so present during the talks about topics of
student interest: what their favorite types of songs are, how much they know about our school
and its rival, which restaurants they frequent, and what their dying wishes would be. During
discourse of philosophical/moral controversies, participants’ responses were delivered in a more
unrehearsed manner, and this phenomenon helped to bring forth critical reasoning into the talks.
With a greater influx of deep reasoning offered (especially during Dialogues 6, 10, and
14) my moves as facilitator were also indicative of an adaption to participants’ depth of thought.
More regularly opportunities to interject divergent, assessment, and information queries of my
own emerged once participants delivered statements of position that seemed devoid of critical
elements. Because participants were becoming honest and creative in their open thoughts, I too
was also prompted in a more Socratic way. As can be identified within Table 29, there was a
greater volume of substantial questions delivered by me – especially during Dialogues 6, 10, and
14. When the numbers of my substantial interjections were high, Explorations from students
were also witnessed in greater number – no matter the topic or the category of literature.
Dialogue 6 (“Frederick”), defined generally as the most exploratory dialogue of the 14 observed
(with Explorations attributing to 56% of all moves), proved the only philosophical/moral
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discussion whereby more substantial moves were delivered than procedural (Substantial = 15;
Procedural = 12).
Also noticeable from an analysis of Table 29 is an indication that facilitator procedural
interjections spoken during Dialogues 10 and 14 registered with greater frequency. This was, in
part, due to the syntactical nature of the dilemma questions used. Both topic questions (for
Dialogues 10 and 14) required participants to take sides, and such side-taking encouraged me as
facilitator to keep tabs on students who had not engaged early but who would speak if called
upon. With topic questions that elicited personal choice replies such as “Do you pull the switch?”
I monitored the number of utterances delivered by lead-speakers, interjecting to question the
respectful intentions of any who joined in multiple times before other less-dominant speakers
engaged. For this reason, the number of procedural moves was greater during Dialogue 10 (34
moves) and Dialogue 14 (24 moves) than during other two talks that deliberated moral
dilemmas.
Despite participants not choosing any one Philosophical/Moral Dilemma questions as
our best overall to discuss, exit survey evaluations for Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas as a group
rated highest of four categories. Students graded the group of moral dilemma dialogue questions
with a raw tally of 106 and an average score of 4.24 on the 5-point Likert scale. Of 25
participants taking the exit survey, 13 rated our moral dilemmas grouping a 5.0 on the 5-point
scale. Although participants did not specifically favor any one moral dilemma question, overall
sentiments toward the entire grouping of philosophical/moral questions remarkably had an
impact on student choices during the exit survey. Interestingly, Dialogues 2 and 6 rated below
average during post-dialogue surveys given following each talk. In fact, Dialogue 6, the most
exploratory talk observed, received one of the lowest individual average ratings of all 14
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discussions (2.8 of 5.0). Quite possibly, since disputational talk was uttered least during
Dialogue 6, its memorable qualities were overlooked. Also possible is the idea that because
Dialogue 6 was not disputational, it was not memorable for that reason.
Dialogues 3, 7, and 11: Traditional/Classical Fiction.
The three short stories read aloud to elicit dialectical conversations over fiction pieces
were selected from CKA’s curricular canon of grade 7 literature. The stories were chosen
because each ended in climactic surprise – a development which I thought might lead
participants to submit questions of exploration for which to vote. For “The Necklace” (Dialogue
3) students voted to deviate slightly from the crux of the story’s overall theme: Why did
Mathilde marry a clerk if she was unhappy with her position in life? The question accepted for
“The Tell-Tale Heart” (Dialogue 7) was a submission added to the list of student postings by me:
The narrator: crazy of clever? Dialogue 11’s topic question related to “A Sound of Thunder” did
require for participants to examine the theme of the story: Can something very insignificant, like
killing a butterfly in the past, have a huge effect on the future? Each of the three stories was read
aloud the class period preceding its related dialogue. Since CKA runs on a block schedule, the
readings and the discussions did not occur on consecutive days – there was a day in between the
read-aloud class period and the dialogue class period. This lay-off may have affected the overall
discussion of these fiction pieces: Significant plot details may have been forgotten by some
participants causing apprehension of engaging in talks. In fact, noticeable in relationship to
overall vocal participation in dialogues, talks about fiction elicited a drop in the number of
speakers who joined in discussions. On average, 17 speakers engaged during dialogues about our
three fiction pieces.
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Once engaged, Dialogues 3, 7, and 11 featured lead-speakers throughout. In no other
category of discussion were less-dominant speakers more absent from conversations than during
talks related to fiction read-alouds. In terms of total moves spoken, such non-engagement did not
seem related to an overabundance of disputational talk. Seemingly, lack of understanding
contexts of given works of fiction might have been more influential in contributing to a decrease
in participation – more so than a lack of understanding philosophical/moral texts had on speaker
engagement during those dialogues. The fiction works chosen for this study were determined by
the Core Knowledge curriculum to be understood on-level at a grade above the assigned
classification in which they were used. CKA’s intent to accelerate students by endorsing early
immersion into certain classical pieces may have contributed to a drop in critical, vocal
participation during this study. The average number of participants decreased by nearly three
speakers from the previous two dialogue categories. Moreover, context knowledge of the fiction
pieces used had a better chance of being forgotten over two-day lay-offs. Lay-offs resulting in
contextual gaps may have also contributed to dominance by our lead-speakers and silent
abstaining from our less-engaging students. Table 30 shows possible connections between
participants and the types of moves uttered in Dialogues 3, 7, and 11.
Table 30
Traditional/Classical Fiction Dialogue Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves
Question N Explorations Disputes Agreements Total
3 Why did Mathilde marry a clerk? 16 23 46 4 73
7 The narrator: crazy or clever? 15 53 65 12 130
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11 Can killing in the past affect the future? 19 70 63 7 140
Totals 16.7 146 174 23 343
Aside from Dialogues 3, 7, and 11 resulting in a noticeable decrease in participants
overall, traditional/classical fiction discussions did contribute positively toward the emergence of
exploratory talk. Dialogue 11 came to be defined as the only discourse outside of those initiated
by moral dilemmas to register as exploratory. Even so, 9 lead-speakers contributed 110 of 140
total moves within Dialogue 11. Fifty-one of 70 Explorations, 55 of 63 Disputes, and 4 of 7
Agreements were delivered by dominant participants.
Explorations logged during Dialogue 11 accounted for 50% of the total moves while
Disputes attributed to 45% of all moves. Also, Dialogue 7 did not show a wide margin between
Explorations and Disputes (53-to-65). Again, Dialogues 7 and 11 provided support for the notion
that question syntax proves significant in eliciting exploratory utterances. If sides must be taken,
explanations become prompted, and personal, anecdotal replies are not provoked, the
foundations for exploratory discourse exist. Explorations spoken during Dialogues 3, 7, and 11
progressed gradually away from statements of position (POS) toward a more critically-inclined
posing of student questions: RR, CR, DQ, AQ, and IQ. Interestingly, the total number of
questions posed by participants during Dialogue 11 (28 questions) eclipsed the number of
inquiries delivered during either of the two exploratory talks identified within the moral
dilemmas grouping – Dialogues 6 and 14. Table 31 shows a breakdown of categorized
Explorations delivered during Dialogues 3, 7, and 11.
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Table 31
Categorized Explorations: Traditional/Classical Fiction Questions
Questions POS ID rr RR CR DQ AQ IQ
3 Why did Mathilde marry a clerk? 13 2 3 0 1 4 1 0
7 The narrator: crazy or clever? 18 12 2 6 5 4 1 3
11 Can killing in the past affect the future? 24 11 6 4 8 10 1 5
Totals 55 25 11 10 14 18 3 8
Divergent questions asked during Dialogue 11 (10 questions) exceeded those posed by
participants in any other dialogue within this study. The 28 student inquiries made during
Dialogue 11 ranked second only to the 34 questions posed during Dialogue 13 (What would you
do on the last day of your life?). However, the exploratory questions posed during Dialogue 11
were more critical. Sixteen of the 28 total inquiries were delivered as divergent, assessment, or
information seeking questions. Less than half of the questions posed during Dialogue 13 were of
those critical types. Moves of inference/deductive logic also trended toward an increase within
this grouping. Aside from delivering an inquiry to our discussions, the forms of deductive logic
spoken during Dialogues 7 and 11 exemplified creative ways in thinking out loud. In providing
deductive moves, students shared their thought processes aloud as they presented a position or a
concern. Deductive moves were defined by acts of vocally piecing together parts of context in
such a way that the steps toward logical understanding could be heard audibly as participants
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weighed them aloud. Dialogues 7 and 11 brought forth this type of exploratory sharing more so
than any other talks recorded here.
Disputes during Dialogues 3, 7, and 11 were centrally issued by lead-speakers. Once each
of these dialogues progressed past the ninth or tenth different speaker in class, the number of
turns delivered by other, less-assertive speakers did not comprise even half of the total moves
issued. Seemingly, desires by lead-speakers to include the voices of others into our talks was not
of high importance. However, based on the nature and frequency of responses given by non-
dominant speakers during Dialogues 3, 7, and 11, they did not have much to say anyway. Table
32 provides a representation of categorical divisions of Disputes uttered during our fiction-stories
dialogues.
Table 32
Categorized Disputes: Traditional/Classical Fiction Questions
Question RE PQ AR RB CA NR TS SD
3 Why did Mathilde marry a clerk? 17 0 18 4 0 5 1 0
7 The narrator: crazy or clever? 22 0 9 3 0 13 18 0
11 Can killing in the past affect the future? 20 0 14 3 1 13 11 0
Totals 59 0 41 10 1 31 30 0
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As is visually represented, disregards for previous speakers and argumentation were
issued at about an average rate. Arguments initiated did not turn into rebuttals and counter-
arguments, yet non-reasoned responses and topic-shifts were coded with above average numbers
within Dialogues 7 and 11. In both Dialogues 7 and 11, personal anecdotes were issued with
regularity in explanation of how the narrator of “The Tell-Tale Heart” would prove insane or
clever and how their personal actions could disrupt the balance of nature. Participants such as
Aaron C., Kasey, and Piper tried to provide explanatory analogies that drifted from the topic-
focus on the story’s narrator and/or from the contextual implications of the Butterfly Effect in “A
Sound of Thunder.” Dialogue 3, with its small number of overall moves (73), provided some
significance through the utterances of 18 arguments (AR). Although the number of arguments
issued during Dialogue 3 attributed to 39% of all Disputes, those arguments did not lead to great
sequences of disputational talk. Even the number of procedural interjections uttered by me as
facilitator was fairly insignificant. However, while coming to explore why Mathilde was
unhappily married, substantial, critical prompts were issued at a lower rate in comparison to the
amount of substantial interjections offered during the previous two groupings of discussion
types. Table 33 represents the relationship between facilitator moves and student moves of
exploration and disputes.
Table 33
Facilitator Moves in Comparison to Student Explorations and Disputes: Fiction Talks
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
3 Why did Mathilde marry a clerk? 12 4 23 46
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7 The narrator: crazy or clever? 8 12 53 65
11 Can killing in the past affect the future? 15 7 70 63
Totals 35 23 146 174
As shown by Table 32, the rise in substantial interjections by me during Dialogue 7 may
have contributed to an increase to the total number of Explorations delivered within that talk.
With a differentiation of 12 moves separating the Explorations and Disputes of Dialogue 7,
facilitator inquiries aided the talk to shift in an exploratory direction. On the contrary, the four
substantial moves issued by me during Dialogue 3 were likely limited because the flow of that
dialogue leaned toward argumentation and chances to interject questions prompting reasoned
responses from me were few. However, the ratio of procedural to substantial moves from
Dialogue 11 was similar to that of Dialogue 3, and the effects of Explorations to Disputes were
significantly different. Again, during Dialogue 11, “Can something very insignificant, like
killing a butterfly in the past, have a huge effect on the future?” I tried to limit the number of
turns that our lead-speakers made in an attempt to engage more less-dominant voices into the
discourse. In doing so, my procedural interjections rated slightly higher than that of my
substantial moves.
Again, as indicated by the post-dialogue survey, the dialogue with the greatest number of
Disputes received the highest raw rating on the 5-point Likert scale. Dialogue 7 (with 65
Disputes) achieved a 97 and a mean average of 3.9. Only one student identified Dialogue 7 (The
narrator: crazy or clever?) as the best question to discuss, and only Dialogue 11 (Can something
very insignificant, like killing a butterfly in the past, have a huge effect on the future?) received
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another vote from the fiction-story grouping. Of the 25 students taking the exit survey following
all 14 talks, only three identified the three dialogues comprising Traditional/Classical Fiction as
the best type of discussions in which to engage. With an exit survey raw score of 93 (converting
to a mean average of 3.72), students ranked dialogues for Traditional/Classical Fiction third in
our group of four categories for discussion. Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas and Non-Textually
Generated Topics ranked ahead of our fiction grouping, respectively.
Dialogues 4, 8, and 12: Factual Narratives.
The three factual narratives read aloud for participants in this study were chosen because
of their potential to engage differing types of discussions. Also, weighing into my decision to
choose was the fact that each text was included in the Core Knowledge selection list. “Shooting
an Elephant” by George Orwell (Dialogue 4) deals with a controversy of whether or not
committing atrocities in order to save face is morally right. “The Night the Bed Fell” by James
Thurber (Dialogue 8) was chosen because of its differing tone to that of all other texts used. “The
Night the Bed Fell” is a comedic tale of a humorous chain of events that occurred during
Thurber’s childhood. It was my intent to observe the dynamics elicited by a factual piece that
posed a theme not related to controversy, surprise, or moral decisions. Dialogue 12 (“Day of
Infamy”) speech by FDR, however, was chosen for its potential to spark critical explorations and
challenged disputes. As the speech led to an impromptu discourse regarding the implications of
U.S. retaliation toward Japan at the end of World War II the class period before our observed
talk, I decided to continue the momentum of that engagement for the next period. On the day of
Dialogue 12, I provided students a brief, supplemental handout that detailed the events of
dropping atomic bombs on cities in Japan in 1945. For Dialogue 12, two pieces of text were
examined and contributed to the evidence participants referenced during that discussion.
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Ultimately, our three dialogues deriving from the reading of factual texts became defined
as disputational. Lead-speakers were featured regularly during Dialogues 4 and 12, but, as the
prompt for Dialogue 8 elicited participants to respond without providing reasoning, procedurally
I interjected in attempts to engage a greater range of speakers. Seemingly, as was observed in
other dialogues within this study, dominant speakers were secure in joining in regardless of their
contextual mastery of the texts read. Procedural prompting by me was never directed to engage
more lead-speakers. If anything, my procedural interjections served to suspend lead-speakers,
helping them to realize that the voices of other, less-dominant students were equally important to
hear within our talks.
As for student participation, these three factual narrative discourses engaged only an
average of 17 speakers – similar to the average number of participants engaging in talks of
Traditional/Classical Fiction. Again, theoretically, the day lay-off that occurred between the
readings of the narratives and the actuality of having the dialogues potentially resulted in less-
talkative students forgetting details and therefore lacking confidence in regard to joining in
vocally. Also, especially in regard to participant-confusion, it was noticed that the absence of
less-assertive speakers during Dialogue 4 could be attributed to a lack of understanding of the
selected question for discussion. Not one question of those that won the class vote ever received
a unanimous consensus. Many times, the question receiving the most votes garnered less than a
majority of students’ votes who were present – it simply received more votes than any other
questions submitted. In the case of the vote taken for “Shooting an Elephant” (Dialogue 4) the
winning question received 14 votes initially but had to win a run-off election to become the
discussion topic. While more than 55% of the class accepted the question (Was not being
humiliated worth the death of a living creature?), 11 other students did not. My guess is that
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many of the 11 who did not choose the winning question were confused by its syntax. The word
“not” negated the context of the forthcoming phrase and seemed to distract some students from
completely understanding the question. In essence, those who understood the context spoke out,
and those who were not quite sure of what the question was asking remained silent during
Dialogue 4. In this sense, a question’s syntax again contributed to the emerging dynamics
resulting from an observed dialogue. For Dialogue 4, confusing syntax may have contributed to a
decrease in student participation and dynamics overall. Table 34 shows potential connections
between dialogue participants and the numbers of Explorations and Disputes logged in talks
about factual narratives.
Table 34
Factual Narrative Prompts with Categorized Vocal Moves
Question N Explorations Disputes Agreements Total
4 Was not being humiliated worth killing? 19 23 60 10 93
8 What was up with this family’s phobias? 17 35 65 7 107
12 Was dropping atomic bombs justified? 15 51 74 6 131
Totals 17 109 199 23 331
Factual Narrative dialogues on the whole elicited fewer Explorations (109) and total
moves (331) than any other category observed. Disputes registered more often in talks about
factual narratives (199) than did Disputes logged for Traditional/Classical Fiction (174). No one
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dialogue of the three here ventured close to becoming defined as exploratory. Agreements were
issued steadily by comparison but were not delivered in extreme nor were entirely absent from
Dialogue 4, 8, and 12. The main topic questions for Factual Narrative dialogues, aside from
“Was dropping atomic bombs on Japan justified?”, were either confusing to respond to for
several students or were not constructed to elicit reasoning – “What was up with this family and
phobias?” Explorations, as was noted by all dialogues in the first round of discussions
(Dialogues 1, 2, 3, and 4), registered less frequently than Explorations did in later talks. Yet, with
the combination of these three factual narratives discussions, Explorations occurred, on the
whole, less critically as well. Table 35 indicates the breakdown of Explorations delivered during
Dialogue 4, 8, and 12.
Table 35
Categorized Explorations: Factual Narrative Questions
Questions POS ID rr RR CR DQ AQ IQ
4 Was not being humiliated worth killing? 14 1 1 4 1 2 1 0
8 What was up with this family’s phobias? 21 9 1 2 0 1 1 0
12 Was dropping atomic bombs justified? 20 7 1 6 2 4 2 7
Totals 55 17 3 12 3 7 4 7
Although creative exploratory responses, in the form of statements of position (POS)
were uttered the same amount of times as those offered during the fictional talks (55 moves), a
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distinctive difference between the two categories exists in terms of critical questions delivered.
Within Dialogues 4 and 8 (“Shooting an Elephant” and “The Night the Bed Fell”) offerings of
critical inquiry were almost non-existent. Divergent questions (DQ), assessment questions (AQ),
and information questions (IQ) were asked a total of five times during both talks combined –
three times during Dialogue 4 and twice during Dialogue 8. From the group of three narratives
discussed, only Dialogue 12 (“Day of Infamy Speech”) rivaled the critical nature of any
discourses from the fiction category. The “Day of Infamy Speech” discussion resulted in 13
critical moves by participants. In total, Factual Narrative Dialogues elicited only 18 critical,
student inquiries, 11 fewer than did talks over Traditional/Classical Fiction. If not for sequences
of exploratory talk delivered within Dialogue 12, the entire grouping of factual narratives would
have become defined dynamically as disputational. As it happened, the lead-speakers who
controlled the discussion during Dialogue 12 contributed enough of moves of exploration to aid
the entire talk in becoming more inquiring, as 21 student questions were posed within that
discourse. Table 36 indicates the breakdown of Disputes as issued through participatory
engagement in Dialogues 4, 8, and 12.
Table 36
Categorized Disputes: Factual Narrative Questions
Question RE PQ AR RB CA NR TS SD
4 Was not being humiliated worth killing? 5 0 30 11 2 5 6 0
8 What was up with this family’s phobias? 29 0 10 3 2 9 12 0
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12 Was dropping atomic bombs justified? 18 1 19 14 5 8 6 1
Totals 52 1 59 28 9 22 24 1
Perhaps most intriguing about the breakdown of Disputes indicated by Table 36 was the
volume of argument utterances (AR) delivered throughout. The 59 arguments (AR) issued during
the grouping of Factual Narratives were only six fewer than the total number of arguments
exhibited throughout four Non-Textually Generated dialogues. Perhaps even more interesting to
note was the number of rebuttals that occurred during Dialogues 4 and 12. Within Dialogues 4
and 12, more argument sequences (those that exhibited back-and-forth disputes) occurred than
happened during any other two talks within one category. Moreover, Dialogue 12 produced more
three-part argument sequences than any other discussion. More often here, an initiation of
argumentation (19 moves) elicited return rebuttals (14 moves) and even counter-arguments (5
moves) – three-part sequences that wholly epitomize disputational discourse.
A closer look into the dynamics of Dialogue 12 indicates that Disputes were triggered
and initiated regularly by disputational claims made by Calvin. Calvin contributed 8 of 19
arguments (AR), all of which evolved into at least a two-part disputes. On two of five occasions,
Calvin started arguments that progressed through all three stages: argument, rebuttal, and
counter-arguments. His claims about the intentions of Japanese soldiers and citizens during
World War II was readily disputed by Shannon, Becca, Javier, and Piper at regular intervals
throughout Dialogue 12. It was these claims-utterances by Calvin that initiated multiple
sequences of dispute throughout the talk.
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Also noteworthy to examine, in analysis of Table 36, were the 29 moves of previous-
speaker disregard provided during Dialogue 8. As the syntax of Dialogue 8’s question did not
elicit critical reasoning, Dialogue 8 proved to be a discussion laden with disrespectful moves.
Dialogue 8 triggered many non-reasoned opinions that several of our lead-speakers delivered
without regard for thoughts spoken prior. The diction of the question, “What was up with this
family and phobias?” did not challenge responders to reason aloud critically but did open a
discussion format that allowed for non-reasoned ideas (NR) and topic-shifting anecdotal
deliveries (TS). My experiment with using a humorous narrative indicated, first and foremost,
that questions for deep discussion would initially be hard to construct. Secondly, a lack of
controversy in which students could reference also limited the discussion points and opened the
talk to an influx of personal anecdotes. These personal stories offered during Dialogue 8 were
seemingly last ditch efforts by participants to keep the dialogue flowing creatively. However, as
is often the case with the delivery of personal anecdotes, as advanced by Reed (1992), inward
thinking did not translate outwardly toward exploration within Dialogue 8’s discourse.
Facilitated moves interjected during Dialogues 4, 8, and 12 were not impactful toward
spurring exploration. However, because the discussion question presented for Dialogue 8
allowed for me to limit multiple turns by lead-speakers in an attempt to engage more
participants, I was able to offer almost as many substantial, reasoning questions (6 moves) as I
was able to offer procedural, task-directing prompts (7 moves). The close variance in number of
my interjections within Dialogue 8 did not seemingly move the talk much toward exploration,
yet was able to create a forum whereby less-dominant speakers could vocally engage earlier
within the discussion.
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Quite possibly, the nine substantial moves interjected into Dialogue 12 helped to trigger
more students’ moves of exploration. Other dialogues which had reached double-digits in
substantial questions from me had profoundly greater numbers of Explorations as well. Not that
talks that elicited greater numbers of substantial facilitator moves came to be defined as
exploratory, yet the chances of a discussion adding to its exploratory sequences, because of the
occurrence of more substantial moves, increased. Table 37 indicates the comparisons of
facilitator moves to Explorations and Disputes given during dialogues of Factual Narratives.
Table 37
Facilitator Moves in Comparison to Student Explorations and Disputes: Factual Narratives
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
4 Was not being humiliated worth killing? 16 4 23 60
8 What was up with this family’s phobias? 7 6 35 65
12 Was dropping atomic bombs justified? 14 9 51 74
Totals 37 19 109 199
In the exit survey taken by 25 participants, only four students rated Factual Narrative
dialogues with a 5.0 on a 5-point Likert scale. Factual Narratives received the lowest raw score
of any of the four categories of discussions observed in this study with an 89. The mean average
rating on the 5-point scale was calculated at 3.56. Although Factual Narratives as a group did not
received high ratings during the exit survey, the question for Dialogue 12 (Was dropping atomic
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bombs on Japan justified?) was identified as the highest rated question of the 14 used. Six of 25
students chose the atomic bomb question as the best question for discussion. Interestingly, the
atomic bomb question resulted in the most argument-rebuttal/argument-rebuttal-counter-
argument sequences of any of the 14 observed topic questions.
Summary of findings from research question 1.
To understand the influences of non-textual and textual categories on the defining
elements of thinking out loud, four key dynamics must be examined: textual/non-textual
dilemmas, discussion-question syntax, exploratory participation, and sequences of dispute. The
emergence of these four dynamics seemed to indicate how stories and topics of student interest
shaped the direction whole-class dialogues. By no means were the aforementioned dynamics
solely accountable in influencing the qualities of a given discourse, yet without analyzing the
four, essential information about the defining undercurrents of class dialogues would have been
overlooked.
Each topic or story considered for discussion presented a dilemma or quandary. When
constructing non-textually based topics for discussion, those predicaments were chosen to be
understood and interesting to the participants who would eventually engage in Thinking Out
Loud discourses. Stories and narratives considered for group discussion presented a thematic or
plot-based controversy. Open-ended answers were not only fostered; they were the norm in
deciding on literature appropriate for promoting thinking out loud. The humorous narrative, “The
Night the Bed Fell” posed no controversial dilemma in which to discuss and failed to engage the
class in authentic talk of exploration or dispute.
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Topic-question syntax, it was discovered, laid the foundation for how a class dialogue
would come to be defined. If a constructed question was chosen and did not prompt open-ended
reasoning, that discussion turned inward toward cumulative agreement or became open for shifts
in topic that took the initial talk out of bounds. If chosen discussion questions were worded in
ways that required participants to ponder personal aspirations or plans, those were also shown to
stifle exploration. Many times students who were not prompted to provide reasoning would not,
especially if the topic question did not specifically elicit their reasoned responses. Dialogues 2,
10, and 13 each posed questions for discussion that inquired about what participants would do
personally in a given situation. While critical and creative reasoning was not entirely absent from
these three talks, progression toward exploratory speech became more of a challenge. However,
topic questions containing confusing syntax may be shown to trap the conversation in a flux of
non-reasoned responses or topic-shifting banter. Dialogue 8 (Was not being humiliated worth the
death of a living creature?) presented a confusing topic question that featured a low volume of
exploration.
Seemingly, questions in which the syntax required students to take a side within a
dilemma proved foundationally solid in promoting exploratory talk. While exploration was not
guaranteed, close-ended prompts that were posed divergently about an issue tended to aid in the
emergence of critical and creative thinking out loud. “Should we kill animals?” (Dialogue 9) and
“Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing?” (Dialogue 14) were examples of close-ended questions
that elicited both side-taking and critical/creative responses. However, even close-ended, side-
taking questions turned talks toward dispute when those inquiries required participants to speak
personally about a situation. “Which school is better, TLA or CKA?” (Dialogue 5), while
rousing and very conversational as a discussion, sparked many participants to provide inward
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utterances: argumentation, non-reasoned responses, and topic-shifts. The temptation for
participants to share personal experiences turned Dialogue 5 toward disputation more so than
other close-ended prompts did to the dialogues they accompanied.
Topic questions that led with the stem of “why” helped to elicit reasoned responses that
progressed a talk toward exploration. This study included two questions that began with the
“why” stem: Dialogue 1 and 3. “Why don’t we pay attention to song lyrics?” (Dialogue 1), while
a prompt that could elicit reasoning, brought that class closer to dispute. The syntax used
insinuates that participants did not pay attention to lyrics and thusly triggered some speakers to
dispute more than explore during this talk. “Why did Mathilde marry a clerk if she was unhappy
with her position in life?” (Dialogue 3) was posed as an engaging prompt, yet it was not a central
question to the story, “The Necklace.” Several students who were having difficulty
understanding the context during the read-aloud were equally confused during the dialogue as
well.
The influence of exploratory participants on Thinking Out Loud talks is paramount. I
found that if students were reasoning in a back-and-forth sequence, stating positions, asking
questions, and making deductions, then the talk became critical, creative, and caring. The more
students within a given dialogue chose to explore, especially with critical questions, the more
that talk became defined as an exploratory dialogue or as a Community of Inquiry. During the
three dialogues within this study defined as exploratory, at least eight participants delivered more
exploratory moves than disputational moves. Interestingly, the other 11 dialogues defined as
disputational never registered more than seven majority-exploratory participants.
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Just as back-and-forth sequences of student exploration helped to lead conversations
toward critical and creative understandings, so too did sequences of argumentation assist in
defining a given discourse as disputational. Dialogues that included a low number of argument
sequences (argument-rebuttal-counter-argument sequences) helped to open the discourse up to
exploration. Dialogues that produced six or more argument sequences were not defined as
exploratory, and those talks that included nine or more argument sequences proved to be highly
disputational. Table 38 indicates the relationship among the four influential dynamics to the
Explorations and Disputes spoken within each category of whole-class discussions. “Prompts”
represents the topic questions posed; “Dilemma” indicates whether or not the topic or story
posed a controversy to discuss; “Syntax” shows how understandable, engaging, and reason-
eliciting topic questions were; “Explorers” represents how many participants explored a topic
more so than disputed it; “AR Sequences” stands for argument sequences; “Ex” represents
Explorations delivered per discourse; and “Dis” indicates Disputes tallied per dialogue.
Table 38
Influential Dynamics Essential for Defining Whole-Class Dialogues
Non-Textually Generated
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
1 Why don’t … attention to lyrics? yes no 0 6 14 56
5 Which school is better? yes no 5 6 41 75
9 Should we kill animals? yes yes 2 9 53 95
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13 What would you do … last day? no no 2 0 58 92
Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
2 What would you do… Heinz’s? yes no 3 3 27 64
6 Purpose of “Frederick?” yes yes 11 5 67 47
10 Do you pull switch?/Push man? yes no 7 4 84 90
14 Did Luttrell do the right thing? yes yes 10 4 62 45
Traditional/Classical Fiction
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
3 Why did Mathilde marry a clerk? yes no 4 3 23 46
7 The narrator: crazy or clever? yes yes 3 2 53 65
11 Can killing in past affect future? yes yes 8 3 70 63
Factual Narratives
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
4 Was not being… worth death? yes no 7 10 23 60
8 What’s up with family/phobias? no no 3 3 35 65
12 Was… atomic bombs justified? yes yes 2 11 51 74
Another important dynamic regarding exploratory participation and a lack thereof
materialized out of gender-related moves. It was analyzed that Explorations totaled 661 of the
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number of moves made in all during 14 whole-class discourses. Girl-participants (14 of 25
students) accounted for 407 of 661 moves of exploration (62%) while boy-participants (11 of 25
students) contributed 254 Explorations (38%) to our observed discussions. Interesting to note
was that girls within the current study doubled the number of delivered critical inquiries offered
by boys (87 to 43). Although critical questions posed within our talks accounted for 20% of all
Explorations expressed, girls provided 67% of those questions throughout. Table 39 details the
number of total Explorations delivered per dialogue along with a breakdown of Explorations and
critical inquiries attributed to both girls and boys within each talk.
Table 39
Exploratory Moves and Critical Inquiries Delivered According to Gender
Dialogue # Total Explorations Boy Explorations/Crit Inquiries Girl Explorations/Crit Inquiries
1 14 2/0 12/2
2 27 10/0 17/2
3 23 12/2 11/2
4 23 9/0 14/3
5 41 15/2 26/4
6 67 20/0 47/10
7 53 13/0 40/8
8 35 9/0 26/2
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9 53 25/8 28/9
10 84 35/7 49/8
11 70 40/12 30/4
12 51 16/4 35/9
13 58 24/3 34/12
14 62 24/5 38/12
Totals 661 254/43 407/87
Intriguing to the analysis of this breakdown is the dichotomous shift in the number of boys’
critical question deliveries issued once our talks reached Dialogue 9. During the first eight
discussions, boys’ expressions of exploratory inquiry were, for the most part, non-existent. From
the commencement of Dialogue 9 onward, boys provided critical questions to the talks
consistently. What can be speculated is that since five of these final six dialogues (excluding
Dialogue 13) posed a side-choosing topic-question for reply, more boys got an opportunity to
speak. Moreover, with the advent of close-ended prompts, I, as facilitator, joined more
procedurally in order to enlist greater numbers of participants into the discussions. As a result,
chances for less-assertive boys to enter into the last six dialogues were greater than they were
during the first eight discussions. Likewise, as had been mentioned earlier, providing an
environment for less-assertive speakers to engage throughout this study tended to move spoken
expressions toward exploration.
Part III: Disputes, Agreements, and Community of Inquiry
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Before collecting narrative data for this study, I came to understand a synonymous
parallel between exploratory talk and Community of Inquiry. Both forms of vocal engagement
epitomize expressions of critical, creative, and caring talk in group settings, yet empirical studies
in recent years have centered on narrative analyses of exploratory talk more so than on transcript
dynamics found through participation in Communities of Inquiry. I read extensively about how
sequences of exploratory talk emerged during dialogues defined by disputes and cumulative
discourse and wondered also if Community of Inquiry could take place within a similar dynamic.
Because of the seemingly distinct associations between these two dialectical methods, I sought to
understand if the existence of Community of Inquiry was possible within talks which included
vocal expressions of dispute and agreement.
Research question 2: Can Community of Inquiry exist within the included presence of
disputational and cumulative talk?
Community of Inquiry, as defined by Lipman (2003), exists as a public space whereby
participants can express their own understandings amidst a classroom group. With the help of the
group, individual Community participants form a connection between passions and certainty,
coming to realize that knowledge is found within a social context but requires joint inquiry to
bring that knowledge forth (Bakhtin, 1981; Pardales & Girod, 2012; Seixas, 2012; Shields, 2012;
Vygotsky, 1978). Community of Inquiry also requires for participants to share in a pledge to
mutually recognize the need for social involvement (Tibaldeo, 2010). This type of talk differs
from conversation, debate, and basic communication because it becomes philosophical
(Burbules, 1993; Lipman, 2003). While philosophical talk can be both argumentative and
critical, it can also be creative and caring. Yet such talk -- talk within a Community of Inquiry --
is not consistent with every class dialogue that occurs. For a philosophical Community of Inquiry
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to exist, there must be present a common set of norms, actions, and responsibilities (Lipman,
2003; Mercer, Wegerif, & Dawes, 2008).
While trying to instill a common set of norms and actions to help guide our observed
dialogues, I came to an understanding early on in our discussions that many participants would
join in with selfish aims. Most of our lead-speakers regularly engaged to express personal claims,
arguments, anticipations, and anecdotal offerings. Many dialogue dynamics were in turn dictated
by moves made by lead-speakers. Regardless of ground-rules reviews before every discussion,
our dominant group of speakers as a whole did not fully accept my intent for them to always
recognize the need for social involvement.
As was detailed in Parts I and II of Chapter IV, only three of 14 observed dialogues came
to be defined as exploratory more than disputational. Yet I observed expressions of Community
of Inquiry during more than just these three exploratory talks. Parts of six dialogues produced
sequences of exploration that appropriately exhibited signs of Community of Inquiry: Portions of
these six dialogues presented a series of critical, creative, and caring expressions. By no means
common to these discussions, moves indicative of Community of Inquiry emerged only one time
within three talks deemed wholly disputational. Within two discussions deemed wholly
exploratory (Dialogues 6 and 14), Community of Inquiry sequences developed two times.
Furthermore, during dialogues in which 10 or more uttered agreements were expressed, only two
included a sequence identifiable as Community of Inquiry. In response to Research Question 2,
the existence of Community of Inquiry can occur in the presence of disputational and cumulative
talk; however, during this study, a stronger connection was observed in relation to Community of
Inquiry and a frequency of total exploratory moves delivered by class participants.
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Sequences of Community of Inquiry, as produced within this study, materialized out of
consecutive exploratory moves from more than two students involved in back-and-forth
deliveries. For a conversation to exhibit signs of Community of Inquiry, critical, creative, and
caring moves had to emerge during a series of participants’ turns. The asking of critical questions
(divergent, assessment, and information) and the offering of creative positions (usually by way
of deductive logic) helped to signify a sequence of Community of Inquiry. Also, for an
exploratory sequence to be considered Community of Inquiry, acts of participant care and respect
had to be present: A lack of previous-speaker disregard had to be kept to a minimum for me to
identify a sequence as a Community of Inquiry. The following selection from Dialogue 14 (Did
Officer Luttrell do the right thing?) epitomizes the type of sequence in this study identified as a
Community of Inquiry:
Mallory: The thing is that the lives of the soldiers and the lives of the goatherds were
the same because all lives are equal, obviously. Everyone has things people care
about them, et cetera. But you said there was a 50/50 chance like the goatherds may
have told the Taliban they were there and they may not have. Obviously, letting them
go is taking a very big risk right. But they didn’t know, right? Then officer Luttrell
made a decision; he was relying on his conscious that it would be the right thing to let
these people go because, hey, they might not tell on us because if you were in that
situation, you said it was the wrong thing letting them go, why?
Jamie: I mean because it was like a chance that the goatherds would have told that
they were there. I mean, they were there because –
Mallory: Is it wrong to take a chance or is it wrong to kill innocent people?
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Jamie: Okay, I just changed my mind. I think he did the right thing.
Mr. Herr: Probably you, Mallory.
Mallory: Kathy.
Kathy: I’m confused of why he keeps saying he didn’t know because he has other
men with him so he’s taking a really risky chance. If he didn’t know, wouldn’t you
want to kill them because if they were on the Taliban side then they could – they
could tell the Taliban people that you’re here when you let them go, and you have
other men with you, so you’re risking their lives too and your own life, so if you
didn’t know, wouldn’t you just kill it just because that’s such a risky chance so if you
let them go, they would have told but if you would have killed them, then you could
have captured the Taliban people.
Mallory: Well, obviously I know that it’s a really big risk like if you let these people
go, you could definitely die and your men too, but I still think it’s better to take a big
risky chance than to just kill innocent people. So, Niles.
Kasey: I have a question for everybody. You know there was a 50/50 chance that he
could save those people and his people too or there was a chance that he could let the
people go and they would die. Wouldn’t you take also the chance of saving three
innocent lives and your life?
Elizabeth: I would not take a chance to save their lives. I know that sounds really
selfish, I know but there could be like a effect – I don’t know how to put that. Um,
but anyways, I just wouldn’t do it because I don’t like that chance at all. So – Everett.
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Everett: Pass. Aaron.
Aaron C.: Okay, this is to Kasey’s question. So, they sort of did the right thing. But I
would have killed them because there’s still that 50 percent chance that all of them
would have died – the four what you got to do –
Mr. Herr: Aaron, but didn’t the three U.S. Navy SEALs go out that day thinking that
today could be the day I die because I’m in the Navy SEALs and I’m in Afghanistan,
but did the goatherds go out that day going, today’s the day I’m going to die? What
do you think?
Aaron: The Navy SEALs did because when they signed up –
Mr. Herr: Because isn’t that their job, to know that when I sign up, I could die each
and every day I’m out here. Is that a different philosophy in this situation then?
Aaron: Well, those goatherds didn’t know if they were going to be killed.
Mr. Herr: Exactly!
Aaron: But there was a big chance because there were lots of people who were loyal
to the Taliban. But you got to do what you got to do to keep your people safe. And
because that’s part of your job; you sign up to help the country and you also have to
sign up to help your co-workers.
Within this last sequence, six participants and I engaged in a back-and-forth delivery that
included critical questions, creative positions, and – for the most part – respect for the thoughts
uttered by previous speakers. While five of 6 student-participants within this Dialogue 14
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sequence were deemed lead-speakers (excluding Mallory), each here became involved with at
least one other to produce a succession recognizable as Community of Inquiry. Mallory led off
the sequence by deducing from the text and the thoughts of other participants to produce a
critical assessment question; Jamie next took a turn to answer Mallory’s question. Mallory
continued her inquiring quest until Jamie responded without reason. Other speakers like Kathy
and Kasey, albeit joining with some disregard, continued to inquire on topic – eliciting position
statements from their questions. Even my own interjections were of the substantial kind:
prompting participants to reason deeper into the dilemma. While this example of exploration was
rare, only occurring nine times within the course of 14 observed dialogues, it did come to
embody the necessities essential to the identification of a Community of Inquiry.
It was somewhat expected that dialogues characterized by a greater volume of
exploratory expressions would produce sequences meeting standards identifiable with
Community of Inquiry. However, it was the materialization of Community of Inquiry sequences
within dialogues characterized by dispute that proved interesting to note. Dialogue 9 (Should we
kill animals?), Dialogue 12 (Was the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan justified?), and
Dialogue 13 (What would you do on the last day of your life?) each produced one Community of
Inquiry sequence. While each of these three talks featured only two participants who explored
more than disputed, an emergence of critical, creative, and caring discourse materialized within
each for a period of vocal turns. Although Dialogues 9, 12, and 13 produced Disputes in the
majority, each triggered its own pocket of exploration that could be identified as a Community of
Inquiry. These pockets arose as testaments from the participants that knowledge gained in social
contexts required joint inquiry to bring forth understanding.
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Dialogue 9’s Community of Inquiry sequence was intriguing in that it was produced by
two students who generally expressed themselves through disputes. Marcus and Calvin each
provided 8 and 14 Disputes respectively during Dialogue 9, yet they shared a period of turns
whereby critical and creative moves dominated. In the upcoming sequence, Marcus began by
inquiring to Calvin if animal resources could be used by humans if those animals in question
were going to die anyway. Calvin, in consistently expressing a position siding with an argument
that animals should not be killed, responded with a statement of position and of deductive logic.
Marcus, as the sequence was coming to an end, continued to inquire in an attempt to gain more
information from Calvin:
Marcus: Okay, so going back what Calvin said about animals eating other animals,
okay. So they’re going to die, so why can’t we have their resources? I mean, what’s
the point? They’re going to kill off each other, right? You just said –
Calvin: No, they’re not going to kill off each other just they’re going to keep each
other in balanced and population.
Marcus: But how would they do that?
Calvin: By – the grass is not going to grow too much because the deers are going to
be eating the grass. So they’re going to keep the grass in check. The lions are going to
keep the deer in check ‘cause they’re going to be eating the deers and they won’t go
overpopulated.
Marcus: Exactly, so why can’t we use some of their resources?
Calvin: You want to eat lion?
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Marcus: No.
While the previous sequence is not long-lasting, nor does it involve more than two participants, it
does exemplify the idea that expressions of Community of Inquiry can develop in the midst of
conversations defined distinctly as disputational. To illustrate, Dialogue 9 produced more
disputational moves (95) than any other observed discussion during this study, and while Marcus
and Calvin delivered a quintessential series of moves identifiable with Community of Inquiry,
their turns before and after were made in argumentation or in topic-shifts.
The Community of Inquiry episode produced during Dialogue 12 (Was the dropping of
atomic bombs on Japan justified?) also involved two participants in conversation. Mallory and
Kathy spoke together in exploration about the moral extents of retaliation. As she was identified
as our most exploratory contributor throughout (64 total Explorations), Mallory originated the
following Community of Inquiry sequence:
Mallory: I think what Kathy is trying to ask is that if somebody attacked you first,
wouldn’t you want to attack them back? And Japan did bomb the U.S. before we even
entered the war. If we entered the war the day after they bombed us, but at Pearl
Harbor -- how many did we lose?
Mr. Herr: A couple of thousand – two thousand something.
Mallory: A couple of thousand, and the atomic bomb killed, it says here, some 70,000
Japanese citizens instantly, and the radiation probably killed thousands more in the
days after, so let me think of a good analogy here, say you (Kathy) and your brother
(who attends CKA) were fighting over something, and Yancey smacked you. You’d
want to smack him back, yeah?
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Kathy: Heck yeah!
Mallory: Okay, but if he smacked you, would you want to kill him because he
attacked you first?
Kathy: Okay, that’s a good point. No, I’m just going to say that.
Mallory: But it’s not justified to if somebody does something to you, it’s not justified
to do that back to them but 10 times worse.
Kathy: My point is, if we didn’t do anything, they could just say, ‘Let’s do it again’,
because we didn’t do anything.
Here, Mallory uses inquiry to help deduce understanding – understanding that she partially
possesses prior and understanding that she hopes to know further -- from Kathy. While honest in
her pursuit to know Kathy’s answer regarding the extent of her retaliation against her brother,
Mallory, with her inquiry-wrapped analogy, delivers a sort of Socratic deconstruction of Kathy’s
argument about appropriate levels of retaliation from country to country. Interesting to note is
how this sequence does not become mired in argumentation, rebuttal, topic-shifting, or non-
reasoned answers. The back-and-forth conversation between the two girls serves as an authentic
quest for exploration and does not face its demise until a more argumentative claim from
Mallory brings it to completion.
Dialogue 13 (What would you do on the last day of your life?), another discussion
marked by disputation but that produced a succession of moves identifiable as Community of
Inquiry, presented a note-worthy manifestation. While the topic question did not explicitly
require participants to deliver reasoned responses, one student took a chance to bring this talk,
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suffering from lack of exploration, through the full process of a dialogue – as instituted by our
ground-rules. Tripp, a student who was vocally silent through much of our early dialogues,
began to position himself in a problem-solver role as discussions progressed through November
and into December. During Dialogue 13, Tripp came to understand that our Non-Textually
Generated topic was not provoking the reasoned responses that would cause speakers to explore
at length. After listening intently for more than half the talk, Tripp engaged in an attempt to aid
the class in seeking agreement and ending the discussion. While his idea surfaced as an
admirable plan enacted for the disposal of a derisive talk, Tripp was not aware that the discourse
was not garnering any moves of agreement at all. The absence of cumulative talk combined with
a myriad of possible responses to be spoken about a person’s intentions on their last day alive
made it difficult for the class to come to an agreement. However, Tripp, in his quest to enact a
solution for ails of Dialogue 13, helped to initiate a sequence representative of Community of
Inquiry. While Tripp’s moves were more procedural than substantial, his interjection and
coinciding moves helped to trigger exploratory turns from at least two others: Becca and Maria.
The following sequence brings to light critical and creative resulting moves elicited by Tripp
during Dialogue 13:
Tripp: Everybody who would sit and wait there to die, raise your hand.
Mr. Herr: What are your totals?
Tripp: You raised your hand for the first one, right?
Mr. Herr: Yes, I did.
Tripp: Alright, so 16 people would actually do something; five people would sit there.
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Mr. Herr: So 16 and 5?
Tripp: Yes. We need to change those five people’s minds or the 16 people’s minds.
Mr. Herr: Okay, good idea. Good idea, Tripp. Do call on the next though – if you’re
done.
Tripp: Becca.
Becca: I am one of the five people who would sit there and die. When you say do
something, do you mean something extravagant and like have a party and do stuff
like that?
Tripp: I mean by sit there and wait as in like –
Elizabeth: Literally.
Tripp: Yeah, literally sit there on a sofa doing whatever in your house like a normal
day.
Becca: Well, I would – say I was like in a hospital – this is how I picture it; I’m really
sick, going to die, and I’m immobilized – that’s why I said I was immobilized. This is
how I think I might die. I’d make sure my will is finished, and make sure the payment
is distributed before I die so there is no problems after I die and nobody’s fighting and
my children getting all in arguments and stuff like that.
Maria: Uh –
Becca: Yes?
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Maria: Sorry, this is Maria, and I actually have a question for you. Wouldn’t that be
doing something, so you wouldn’t be one of those five? You’d actually be joining the
16.
Becca: Yes, that’s why I was trying to clarify. And, um, I would tell all my family
that I love them and wish them well and make sure I am remembered and never forget
me because I’d be really sad if they ever forgot me. But, yeah, if sitting there like a
normal day, if that’s what you mean, then I’m the 17th. Um, Marcus.
Marcus: I just have a question for you: What – you’re saying if you were
immobilized. What if you weren’t?
Becca: If I wasn’t immobilized, it depends on how I’m dying.
Of the six different dialogues that produced an identifiable sequence of Community of
Inquiry, two turns were present when cumulative, agreement talk was note-worthy (Dialogues 9
and 10). Dialogue 9, which produced the second-most moves of agreement at 17, and Dialogue
10 (13 agreement moves) did not seemingly emerge as a significant indicator toward the
promotion or the inhibition of the manifestation of Community of Inquiry. A dialogue that
exhibited a greater volume of cumulative talk (Dialogue 1 = 18 agreement moves) contributed no
representation of Community of Inquiry, while five discussions that produced fewer than 13
agreement moves contributed 6 of 8 sequences of Community of Inquiry. Nonetheless, the
emergence of Community of Inquiry can exist within the same discourse that produces a high
volume of agreement moves. The advent of Community of Inquiry sequences seemed to arise as
an offshoot related to the volume of exploratory moves as opposed to the volume of agreement
talk or disputational moves.
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Summary of findings from research question 2.
Exploratory-minded participants contributed most to any emergences of Community
of Inquiry within this study. However, the achievement of exploratory dialogues was not
wholly indicative of the successive presence of Community of Inquiry as observed here.
Although it was found that talks defined as exploratory produced at least one sequence of
Community of Inquiry, three other, more disputational discourses, were also found to exhibit
one identifiable sequence as well. Moreover, of the three exploratory dialogues identified
during this study, one (Dialogue 11) failed to produce a Community of Inquiry sequence at
all. While it seemed accurate to suggest that our most exploratory talks would bring about
chances and turns displaying Community of Inquiry, pockets of back-and-forth, social
learning in critical, creative, and caring ways emerged and existed in the presence of
disputation. Even during dialogues in which agreement talk was expressed at a greater
volume (Dialogues 9 and 10), a progression representative of Community of Inquiry
materialized.
Through analysis, I have discovered that participant turns, moves, and sequences
progress through directional shifts. Talks would follow paths of exploration for a time, would
digress toward dispute and agreement and would then turn back toward exploration – all in a
matter of a few minutes. Much of what was observed as Community of Inquiry during this
study was resultant upon mutual engagement between at least two exploratory participants.
Those engagements, when they transpired, existed as interplays of knowledge, like Lipman’s
(2003) playground of thought – capable of being appreciated within these social contexts by
the students who engaged and the facilitator who observed.
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Part IV: Ground-Rules Review and Exploratory Talk
The 12 ground-rules implemented to provide students guidance for talking together
derived from a set of norms used by Mercer and Dawes (2008). The ground-rules promoted
during this study were instituted to aid grade seven participants in vocally expressing themselves
critically, creatively, and in a caring way. Ideally, if students were to follow these posted norms
completely, exploratory discourses would emerge and remain constant throughout the study. The
12 rules also served as reference points for me as facilitator in keeping our discussions focused
and progressing toward intended exploratory discoveries. These procedural interjections
delivered by me were entirely uttered as either reminders of our posted rules or spoken in order
to engage more speakers when full participation was not yet achieved.
The list of ground-rules as constructed, was designed to guide individual participants as
well as whole groups (Mercer & Dawes, 2008). Dialectical instruction of the ground-rules served
initially as guidance tools for how to dialogue while my own procedural interjections functioned
as reminders once talks had progressed into routine. A benefit of the rules existed in the idea that
students could react personally in accordance, and their personal adherence would, in turn,
positively affect the procedural flow of the whole class’s dynamics. The following 12 ground-
rules were posted in the front of the classroom on smaller dry-erase boards. Before each
observed dialogue throughout this study, a complete or partial review of the ground-rules was
initiated by me:
1. Discuss things together.
2. Everyone participates.
3. Think before you speak.
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4. Respect the ideas of others.
5. Unclear ideas should be treated with respect.
6. Ideas may be challenged.
7. Challenges should be justified.
8. Alternative ideas should be offered.
9. Be prepared to change your mind.
10. All opinions should be considered before decisions are made.
11. Share all ideas and information you have.
12. Seek agreement.
Since these had been important to Mercer and Dawes (2008) in eliciting exploratory talk, I
became intrigued about how well they might also aid participants within the current study to
achieve and maintain exploratory turns.
Research question 3: Do ground-rules promoting exploratory talk influence its
actuality?
Initially, based on the results that three of 14 observed talks became defined as
exploratory, Research Question 3 seems obvious to answer wholly with “no.” After all, only
three of 14 dialogues were representative of exploratory moves in the majority, and never did a
discussion boast more than 11 total speakers who explored more than disputed (Dialogue 6 = 11
of 19 wholly exploratory participants). Moreover, seven of 14 total talks prompted four or fewer
participants who expressed exploratory moves more than they did disputational moves. Yet, as
dialogue-routine emerged and ground-rules-focus became a part of each talk’s lead-in sequence,
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more and more participants began to find a connection between following our norms and being
involved in pleasing discussions.
Participants early on appreciated what many perceived as an allowance to argue, made
manifest by a narrow understanding of ground-rules 6 and 7. I had indicated during the initial
review of rules that argumentation was a natural part of class dialogues and that disagreements
were common when discussing dilemma-laden topics. Some of our lead-speakers understood this
pronouncement to mean that arguments must occur -- as indicated through the results of our
early talks (Dialogues 1-5). Dialogues 1-5 produced a small volume of exploratory moves and a
large percentage of disputational expressions in comparison to those talks that followed.
During our early talks (Dialogues 1-5), participants solidified their own niche personas.
Dominant speakers became wholly identified, and those participants began to move the
dynamics of our discussions at their wills. All the while, before the commencement of each talk,
I would consistently direct focus on those norms to which were not being adhered. Ground-rule 2
became a focal norm in which to review. “Everyone participates” to some in the class did not
mean much more than active listening; however, to others, ground-rule 2 meant that each student
present must vocally engage. Likewise, an observance of ground-rule 4 also became an issue in
which to deal as early dialogues ensued. Students perceived ground-rule 4 (Respect the ideas of
others) to mean “no interruptions”. Yet, I would offer, during our pre-dialogue reviews, that
respect also had to do with acknowledgement of the person who invited them into a discussion.
As usual though, I stopped short of instructing students directly toward what I would do if I were
one of them. Mostly, during ground-rules reviews, I would pose open-ended questions for brief
discussion regarding weekly rules of concern. I wanted to observe what students thought about
the meaning of rules in which I had applied to the talks without their consent. Much of what I
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wanted to observe was how participants’ own understandings contributed to dynamics produced
during the 14 dialogues.
During the narrative transcriptions of Dialogues 1-4, I noticed initial evolving stages of
talk that were related to the application (or lack thereof) of ground-rule norms: Regard for the
ideas of others was limited, and holding an original position of belief was important to some
lead-speakers. Despite consistently addressing the idea that speakers should offer
acknowledgement of those ideas previously presented (ground-rule 4), participants as a whole
came to focus on the next thing he or she wanted to say to the group. The act of not interrupting a
current speaker was perceived as an adherence to ground-rule 4, as understood by most
participants. The relationship between acknowledgement of a previous speaker and talking with
care were not equated until Dialogues 5 (Which school is better, TLA or CKA?) and 6 (What’s
the purpose of “Frederick?”). During Dialogue 6, critical, exploratory inquiries were delivered
for the first time to exceed five questions, and 11 participants actually explored more than they
disputed. However, during discussions prior to Dialogue 5, disrespectful moves were observed at
a greater volume. Disregards for a previous speaker came to identify close to 50% of all moves
of dispute within Dialogues 1-3. Moreover, during Dialogues 1-4, our nine dominant speakers
did not explore more than they disputed for the total moves each expressed. Comments from
participant-interviewees following Dialogues 1-4 aided iteratively in support of these concerns
about a lack of disregard for the ideas of some speakers:
Dialogue 1 – Jamie: Some people would talk over each other and they wouldn’t let
other people finish what they’re saying.
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Dialogue 2 – Elizabeth: I did a bad job. I was waving my arms around. I was
interrupting and making it seem like I didn’t care about what other people were
saying.
Dialogue 3 – Tripp: Like when somebody would ask a question, the next person
would go on to the next thing completely – off-topic.
Dialogue 4 – Aaron C.: Some people just interrupted quite a lot and ignored what
they said and went to what other people said -- like talked to five people before them.
Starting with the ground-rules review before Dialogue 5, I began to go over with the class
some of my observation notes from the previous talk. Much of what I noticed about some of our
dominant speakers ignoring less-assertive participants was relayed for the first time during our
ground-rules review. The ensuing three discussions (Dialogues 5-7) resulted in a noticeable
absence of Disputes in comparison to the first four dialogues. The percentage of Disputes
decreased consecutively in Dialogues 5-7 by comparison, going from 61% (Dialogue 5) to 39%
(Dialogue 6) and increasing slightly higher to 50% (Dialogue 7). While I am not certain that my
recap reviews of previous dialogues delivered before the ensuing Thinking Out Loud talk
impacted this decrease in total Disputes, I do think that some students, upon hearing the positives
and negatives of their participation, took conscious steps toward observing the posted ground-
rules with greater intent.
Dialogue 6 served as a breakthrough discussion. It became the first talk to be wholly
identified as exploratory and became the first time student inquiries registered above 7 –
Dialogue 6 produced 20 student questions. Lead-speakers still dominated the conversation, yet
16 of 19 different participants expressed themselves three or more times. The ground-rules
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review given before Dialogue 6 (What was the purpose of “Frederick?”) centered on my research
intents for this study. I informed the students that I was observing how they spoke to each other
during our conversations about different types of stories and topics. I further explained that I was
trying to understand how seventh-graders talked reflectively together, and informed them I
would later classify their expressions into categories: explorations, disputes, and agreements.
Following my explanation, a few students asked if they should be trying to explore more than
dispute. In answer, I referred to the ground-rules and suggested that following them would lead
us more toward exploration than into disputes. I also made it clear to the class that being
themselves was as important to my research as anything they could do or be. Telling about
details of my research before Dialogue 6 seemed to go hand-in-hand with a change in dynamics
our talks would take. Three identifiable changes in procedural dynamics originated from
different participants during or after Dialogue 6: The emergence of the class explorer, passing
turns to allow others in, and the arrival of our agreement seeker all came into being.
Dialogue 6 resulted in the emergence of Mallory as our chief explorer. From Dialogue 6
onward, Mallory registered more moves of exploration than she did moves of dispute. While she
was not considered a lead-speaker in the way offering personal claims, Mallory began to present
herself as our polite gadfly – mannerly picking her spots within conversations to solve disputes
and to question the logic of others who had yet to express reasoned utterances. Mallory never
tried to start the conversation or insert her voice early into a talk, but she would allow for a
dialogue to grow into itself. Once a talk evened-out, Mallory would gently raise her hand, wait to
be chosen, and offer forth, most times, deductions of logic and critical questions. On very few
occasions she would be baited into arguing or rebutting, but those moments and moves were
seldom. Before Dialogue 6, Mallory offered very few moves to a given talk – no more than two
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turns per dialogue. During and after Dialogue 6 however, Mallory engaged to register no fewer
than seven moves per talk – aside from Dialogue 11 (in which she posed the topic question) and
Dialogue 13 (she was absent from class). Mallory’s expressions (9 moves) during Dialogue 14
(Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing?) were solely exploratory. No other participant offering as
many moves within a talk spoke entirely to explore. The following excerpt from Dialogue 14
exemplifies Mallory’s emergence as a deconstructive explorer:
Mallory: The thing is that the lives of the soldiers and the lives of the goatherds were
the same because all lives are equal, obviously. Everyone has things people care
about them, et cetera. But you said there was a 50/50 chance like the goatherds may
have told the Taliban they were there and they may not have. Obviously, letting them
go is taking a very big risk right. But they didn’t know, right? Then officer Luttrell
made a decision; he was relying on his conscious that it would be the right thing to let
these people go because, hey, they might not tell on us because if you were in that
situation, you said it was the wrong thing letting them go, why?
Jamie: I mean because it was like a chance that the goatherds would have told that
they were there. I mean, they were there because –
Mallory: Is it wrong to take a chance or is it wrong to kill innocent people?
Jamie: Okay, I just changed my mind. I think he did the right thing.
Another interesting phenomenon occurred as a result of an observance to ground-rule 2.
Beginning within Dialogue 8, various lead-speakers became interested in involving other less-
assertive speakers into our talks and enacted a way to involve them without delivering topic-
shifting utterances. Within Dialogues 8, 10, 11, and 13 differing lead-speakers would raise their
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hand to engage, only to call on a student who not joined during that given talk already. When
coding these requests for reasons from our less-assertive speakers, I changed “RR” to “rr” to
indicate that these emerging requests were not expressed as inquiries but as prompts to those
who had yet to join into given conversations. Lead-speakers who engaged in this form of
exploration were given the benefit of the doubt as to the intent of their transferring a turn.
Moreover, passes made to engage a lead-speaker or a participant who had already joined in were
not coded with “rr”. In order for this move to be counted within the exploratory category, it had
to originate out of an intent to engage a less-assertive speaker. Lead-speakers who took part in
these moves in order to involve more participants were Elizabeth (Dialogue 8), Marcus
(Dialogues 10, 11, and 13), Kasey (Dialogue 13), Kathy (Dialogue 13), and Becca (Dialogue 13).
The following excerpts provide an indication of how requests for reasons functioned when a
student passed a chance to speak on topic:
Dialogue 13: What would you do on the last day of your life?
Ron: If I was immobilized, then I would get one of those Stephen Hawking’s chairs
and then I would have a computer screen and then I would be like and then there
would be a river behind me or like a lake or an ocean. I’ll be back in the lake and on
my computer screen I would have a motion of my hand living and I would back into
the water. So, Kasey.
Kasey: I just raised my hand so I could call on somebody else. Audrey.
Audrey: Pass. Piper.
In the last selection, once Kasey was called on by Ron, she passed her chance as a lead-speaker
and chose to involve Audrey, a less-assertive member of the class. Kasey’s act to involve a
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student who was yet to vocally engage indicated a conscientious effort on her part to have
everybody participate – a direct observance of ground-rule 2. In the next sequence, also from
Dialogue 13, Marcus, as a lead-speaker, got called upon to bring in Maria – a less-assertive
participants who was yet to join the discussion but often times wanted to.
Piper: There’s nothing wrong with celebrating, guys. But, I will say that some of this
is a little bit overkill. But if – what would I do on the last day of my life? This is
everything I would do, so, Marcus.
Marcus: Um, I just raised my hand to call on somebody. Maria.
Maria: Okay, this is actually to everybody: You can actually go around the world by
plane.
Part of the reason why Dialogue 13 exhibited nine such passes to elicit the thoughts of less-
dominant speakers was that the topic of telling what you would do on your last day alive did not
prompt critical reasoning. Lead-speakers who, in turn, had already expressed their anticipations
in the talk were more apt to relinquish a speaking turn to involve someone who had not joined.
The accomplishment of ground-rule 12, to seek agreement, as I informed students many
times during our pre-talk reviews, was not essential to our dialogue process. Seeking agreement
was a measure, according to Mercer and Dawes (2008), whereby a culmination of social ideas
provided in whole could be checked in an attempt to provide closure to a given talk. I would
regularly inform the students that in the case of many of our topics, agreement would be difficult
to achieve class-wide. Many of our prompts necessitated side-taking that would not be resolved
in consensus during the 35-40 minutes set aside for a class dialogue. Nonetheless, opportunities
arose during the course of this study to seek agreement within a few of our talks. During
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Dialogue 8 agreement was sought and achieved in time to continue the dialogue by discussing
the question that received the second most student votes. Late in the research process, a student
began to search for times to procedurally seek agreement out of frustration with the depth of
critical talk emerging from Dialogues 13 and 14.
Tripp, a less-assertive speaker and mute for seven of 14 observed dialogues, began to
understand seeking of agreement in the form of a consensus as a way to move past less critical
topic-questions toward one that might elicit greater depth of reasoning. Tripp realized during
Dialogue 10 (Do you pull the switch?/Do you push the man?) that he enjoyed dilemma
discussions and became interested (to a lesser extent than Mallory) in questioning the claims
made by lead-speakers such as Calvin, Becca, and Aaron C. He at one time wished for me to
construct all our questions for discussion, but then came to embrace a more democratic stance
later in the research process. Tripp’s embrace of student-choice in the deciding of dialogue
questions was partially due to the fact that he could emerge as a problem-solver by helping the
class seek agreement when he deemed that a dialogue had run its course. Tripp’s intent was
entirely exploratory; his goal was to move the class toward a critical topic question when the one
being deliberated was not eliciting reasoned responses. His interjections during Dialogue 13
were admirable yet did not result in a class-consensus to end that phase of the discussion.
However, his procedural moves toward seeking agreement enlightened other students of the self-
centered, unreasoned talk that was ensuing during Dialogue 13. Tripp’s similar interjections
during Dialogue 14 were more ill-founded. Dialogue 14 (Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing?)
transpired as one of our three exploratory talks, and Tripp’s moves toward seeking agreement
found that more students were at odds and a more present dichotomy was in place. Tripp did not
realize that, with a topic question that required side-taking, the chances for consensus-agreement
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would be difficult to achieve – especially within the time available in class to hold a discourse.
Nonetheless, Tripp’s procedural interjections were forms of exploration that directly related to an
observance of ground-rule 12. The following excerpt indicates Tripp’s exploratory moves toward
seeking agreement during Dialogue 14:
Mr. Herr: Calvin, I think you’ve made your point. If you would, call on the next
person. Let me remind Calvin and the class that ground rule number two is having a
tough time being followed. Go ahead, Calvin.
Calvin: Tripp.
Tripp: Alright, just to go over it again: Raise your hand if you think he made the right
choice.
Mr. Herr: We are waiting for Tripp to count.
Tripp: Okay, who thinks it was wrong? (Pauses to count) Who thinks it was both?
Who doesn’t know?
Kasey: I don’t think it’s either. It could have gone either way.
Mr. Herr: Maybe make a special category.
Becca: Just put “S” for special.
Mr. Herr: So, Tripp, when you get through tallying, tell us the results you’ve found.
Tripp: Everett, I didn’t get one from you.
Ron: Yeah, he had his hand up for the first one.
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Tripp: Alright.
Mr. Herr: Do you need more time? If so, we can continue the dialogue and then come
back to your numbers. Alright, so, do call on somebody.
Mr. Herr: Hold on just a moment. Coming back to you, Tripp. Are you ready?
Tripp: Yes.
Mr. Herr: Let’s come back to Tripp just real quickly, and then you can call on the
next.
Tripp: One person said both. Eight people said it was wrong; fourteen people said it
was right. One said I don’t know and two people are special.
Mr. Herr: So, it looks like the numbers have slightly changed since Becca’s asking.
As facilitator, my role centered on asking questions – either procedurally or substantially.
I offered substantial questions to lead participants deeper into reasoning; I interjected procedural
moves to keep dialogues progressing toward exploratory aims: aims promoted by the practicality
of our 12 ground-rules. Mostly, my procedural interjections were uttered to enlist lead-speakers
to call on those students who had yet to engage in a given dialogue. Generally, if I was not
procedurally offering to transfer dialogues from leaders to less-assertive members of class, I was
steering off-topic expressions back to task. On some occasions my procedural queries were a
reaction to moves of disrespect offered by participants, but in every instance in which I delivered
procedural turns, my intent was to promote exploratory talk as directed by our 12 ground-rules.
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Interestingly, procedural interjections positively affected the volume of exploratory
moves spoken by participants. Of the procedural interjections delivered by me within all 14
observed dialogues, 102 of those triggered exploratory responses. The participant who directly
followed a procedural move by me engaged in an exploratory move on 102 occasions in 14 talks.
Here, it seemed that my procedural interjections served as a reset of our ground-rules on many
instances whereby participants drifted away from a focus on critical, creative, or caring
expressions. In this sense, when I moved to interject procedurally, an adherence to our ground-
rules seemed to promote exploratory turns more so than it did not.
Summary of findings from research question 3.
Adherence and promotion of a set list of ground-rules designed to elicit exploratory talk
exists as a practicality. Without consistent references to established norms during our talks,
progressions toward exploratory aims would have fallen well short. However, aside from the
positive effects on the exploratory moves expressed by Mallory during the second-half of our
talks, reason-requesting lead-speakers during the last two dialogues, and Tripp’s turn at
facilitating our last two discussions toward consensus, student-observance of our 12 exploratory
ground-rules did not promote its actuality with any consistency. My own direct reviews of the
ground-rules before each dialogue, details of prior performances delivered to students before the
next talk ensued, and procedural interjections meant to keep talks functioning in accordance to
the rules proved more consistent in promoting the actuality of exploratory talk.
Chapter IV Summary
The purpose of the current study was to explore, analyze, and understand the dynamics
that developed within dilemma-triggered, whole-class dialogues. For a period of four months, 25
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seventh-grade English/Language Arts students joined in 14 class discussions prompted by story-
plot dilemmas and quandaries of personal interest. Influences on the dynamics of discourse
observed during this study were attributed to the depths of the texts and questions chosen to
discuss, the diction and syntax used to create topic-questions for discourse, the exploratory
nature of participants during the 14 talks, and the involvement of me as facilitator throughout the
dialogic process. Further understanding of the influences disputational discourse and procedural
ground-rules had on the emergence of Community of Inquiry and exploratory talk, respectively,
were also observed through these practices of thinking out loud.
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CHAPTER V
Summary, Conclusions, Implications and Recommendations
The purpose of this study was to document, analyze, and understand the emergent
relationships existent between dilemma-stories and topical paradoxes and how a class of grade 7
students reacted and reasoned vocally out loud. During the study, the knowledge and
understanding of theories and findings related to social language-learning, Community of
Inquiry, and three modes of discourse (exploratory, disputational, and cumulative talk) were
employed to assist the analysis of recorded narrative transcripts, participant interviews, and
participant surveys. The analysis of this study’s collection of narrative data focused on exploring
blended similarities between social learning theories and dialogic procedural norms in order to
better understand the emerging dynamics resulting from dilemma-sparked, whole-class
dialogues. Potentially, findings gleaned from this study will extend the body of knowledge
connected with adolescent social reasoning and the catalysts promoting reflective engagement in
the classroom. Hopefully, this scholarship will elicit a manifestation in others to engage in
further studies regarding adolescent student discourse.
Summary of the Study
Brief overview of the problem.
While many studies of whole-class dialogues were designed to evaluate and analyze
results that emerged from post-talk measurement assessments (Anderson et al., 2001; Mercer,
Wegerif, & Dawes, 1999; Moshman & Geil, 1998; Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Reznitskaya et al.,
2009; Topping & Trickey, 2007), the current study explored the reflective dynamics vocally
expressed by adolescents during whole-class discussions. Much of empirical research done with
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class dialogues focused measurement and assessment efforts on discovering developing
cognitive gains that students attained at the conclusion of discourse participation (Moshman &
Geil, 1998; Reznitskaya et al., 2001; Reznitskaya et al., 2009; Topping & Trickey, 2007).
However, this study analyzed the existence of potential connections between provided textual
prompts applied to elicit reflective talk and the resulting expressions students produced.
More specifically, an intention of the current study was to evaluate and construct
meaning from three modes of discourse observed and common to class dialogues: exploratory,
disputational, and cumulative talk. In order to prompt vocal engagement and to stimulate these
three modes of discourse, I prefaced each of the observed 14 class discussions with adolescent-
leveled dilemma stories and chances for students to construct their own dilemma topics of
interest. The texts I chose to use during this study derived from a combination. I used
recommended fiction and factual narratives from the Core Knowledge canon (recommended by
this study’s host school) and renowned philosophical/moral dilemma-texts from the likes of
Kohlberg (1958), Lionni (1985), and Sandel (2009). Student-participants were also given a voice
in the construction of topics to discuss. Every fourth dialogue brought a chance for class
members to provide topic-questions of their own interest. Regardless of whether talks derived
from texts or from personal concerns, student-participants provided potential topic-questions to
the forefront by way of popular vote.
Further analyses of the 14 dialogue transcripts produced from this study centered on
resulting relationships found between the three modes of discourse and a manifestation of
Community of Inquiry. Central to this study was an observance of comparative dynamics present
between dialectical schools of thought. I was interested in exploring undercurrents that helped to
merge or separate aspects of Barnes’ (1976) exploratory talk and those of Lipman’s (1980)
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Community of Inquiry. I hoped to better understand how the three modes of discourse triggered
or stifled the emergence of critical, creative, and caring talk: Community of Inquiry. Through
prior experiences with whole-class dialogue facilitation, I was aware of the prevalence of
disputing and agreeing forms of expression and hoped to observe how defining aspects of
Community of Inquiry would emerge or be impeded during our discussions.
Purpose statement and research questions.
The purpose of this study was to explore and understand the vocal expressions of a single
class of seventh-graders who were prompted to engage in whole-group, critical talk over a
central topic question. The topic questions used were derived from student-participants’ interests
and from the arising themes of facilitator-chosen stories and moral dilemmas. An intent of this
study was to promote exploratory talk leading to Community of Inquiry through participant-
adherence to 12 ground-rules. However, as not all student-talk materializes into exploration, a
keen interest in resulting dynamics instigated by disputing and agreeing discourse was also
preserved. By involving participants in whole-group dialogues, triggered by dilemma-texts and
experiences and anchored by a set a procedure-norms, I hoped to examine merging discourse
methods instituted by two dialectic schools of thought: Philosophy for Children and exploratory
talk. I came to refer to this uniting of dialogic philosophies as Thinking Out Loud.
The central question driving my research for this study revolved around the emerging
dynamics related to the initiation of read-aloud dilemma-texts and resulting vocal expressions
from my 25 seventh-grade participants. I also had an interest in exploring arising dynamics
associated with integrating elements from Philosophy for Children and exploratory class
dialogues. The following inquiries are the three research questions analyzed within this study:
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Research question 1: How do traditional/classical stories, philosophical
stories/moral dilemmas, factual narratives, and non-textually generated prompts
influence early adolescents’ thinking out loud within facilitated whole-class
dialogues?
Research question 2: Can Community of Inquiry exist with the included
presence of disputational and cumulative talk?
Research question 3: Do ground-rules promoting exploratory talk influence its
actuality?
Review of the study design.
This qualitative and ethnographic study engaged, documented, and analyzed the vocal
expressions of one class of 25 seventh-grade English/Language Arts students at Core Knowledge
Academy. In-class read-aloud lessons were followed by an additional reasoning activity referred
to as Thinking Out Loud. Thinking Out Loud originated out of dialectical methods incorporating
aspects of both Philosophy for Children and exploratory talk. After each in-class reading,
students posed thematic questions either to the classroom dry-erase board or to our social
learning website for further consideration. Questions submitted were then voted upon for the
purpose of being chosen as our central topic-question for each given class dialogue. In the sense
of choosing one question for discussion, an adherence to Socratic methodology was employed
(Fisher, 2013). The one query which won the vote in each situation served as the focal question
for that entire discussion. Once a topic-question was chosen, student-participants were reminded
of 12 procedural norms known as ground-rules. These 12 procedural norms, as initiated and
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recommended by Mercer and Dawes (2008), were posted to serve as a reminder for participants
of how to engage in ways conducive of exploratory talk.
For the purposes of post-dialogue analysis, each of the 14 observed discussions was
audio-recorded by using iPad® application software. These recordings were then transcribed into
narrative scripts, detailing every word uttered during each talk. The audio files were then deleted,
but the hard-copy transcriptions were kept, as more useful research regarding the dynamics
resulting can be implemented in the future. Following each dialogue, a select group of
participants was interviewed regarding major dynamics which occurred during preceding talks.
Upon completion of the interview process, I provided all participants with a post-dialogue
survey, asking them to rate the previous dialogue on a 5-point Likert scale. The results of all
post-dialogue surveys were calculated into a raw score sum and then averaged to indicate a 5-
point mean score for each of the 14 talks. Furthermore, in iterative support of data collected,
student-participants were provided an exit survey at the conclusion of the last observed dialogue.
This exit survey requested for students to identify a best overall question of the 14 and to rate
each category of discussion (Non-Textually Generated, Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas,
Traditional/Classical Fiction, and Factual Narratives) using a 5-point Likert scale. As with the
Likert results from the post-dialogue surveys, raw scores calculated from the exit surveys were
converted into mean scores on a 5-point scale.
During the implementation of dialogue processes themselves, I served as an active
participant. As an active participant in the current study, I was able to engage in ways that
allowed for me to remove myself from the same totality that the participants experienced within
the discussions (Dewalt & Dewalt, 2011; Glesne, 2011). If I had chosen to conduct this study as
a full participant, according to Glesne (2011), the melding of facilitator and participant roles
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would have made impartial observations difficult to achieve. However, as an active participant, I
was able to collect field notes while also guiding conversations with procedural and substantial
interjections (Dewalt & Dewalt, 2011; Glesne, 2011; Glina, 2013). Moreover, as an observer of
dynamics resulting from the thinking out loud of the participants, I also functioned as the
facilitator for all 14 discussions. My central intent was to model and portray a strict adherence to
the 12 ground-rules established for the benefit of achieving exploratory talk. When I spoke, I
provided procedural moves toward keeping a given discourse on task as well as the delivery of
substantial moves, uttered to elicit critical reasoning from the participants. On most turns, as
supported by Glina (2013) and Reed (1992), I expressed myself through inquiry and scholarly
ignorance – even feigning awareness at times when I was actually aware. As an active
participant, I was ever cognizant of not dominating a conversation myself. The initiative for this
study was to document and analyze peer-talk within whole-class discourse, and allowing my
participants to engage freely was part of my intent as a facilitator. I was ever cognizant of
following facilitator advice as provided by Young (1992, p. 103): Aspire to “being in authority”
instead of “being the authority.” I came away from most dialogues feeling that I had modeled
facilitation in a non-dominant an unimposing way, serving more as a discussion coach and
catalyst, as suggested by Gregory (2007).
Once all narrative speech was transcribed, I coded each vocal turn issued within all 14
dialogues. Upon attempting to analyze utterances in accordance to the Discourse Analysis
Coding Scheme contrived and presented during Chapter III, it became apparent to me that some
code delineations overlapped one another or did not fit certain contexts uttered in actuality.
Originally, I concluded that some 22 student codes and two facilitator codes would be applied to
the three modes of talk observed: exploratory, disputational, and cumulative. However, during
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the process of synthesizing and coding each of the 14 dialogues twice, overlapping qualities
began to emerge with some coded delineations. In some cases, predicted utterances were never
expressed at all. In response, I made decisions to streamline and narrow the 22 initial codes into
16 student codes while keeping intact the two facilitator codes. The actual Discourse Analysis
Coding Scheme used in this study is provided in Table 40.
Table 40
Discourse Analysis Coding Scheme
Modes of Thinking Out Loud Verbal Stratagems/Identifying Questions
Exploratory talk = Explorations
- Critical and constructive reasoning Request for reasons = RR
combined with caring interactions Inference/deduction = ID
Clarification/restatement = CR
Passing to request = rr
Divergent question = DQ
Assessment question = AQ
Information question = IQ
Position statement = QP
*Procedural interjection = Pro
*Substantive interjection = Sub
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Disputational talk = Disputes Simple disagreement w/o reasons = SD
- Applies disagreement and Counterargument = CA
individual decision-making Rebuttal = RB
Argumentation = AR
Topic shifting = TS
Personal question = PQ
Speaker disregard = RE
Non-reasoned response = NR
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Cumulative talk = Agree Alignment of previous ideas = Agree
- Cooperative, uncritical talk
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Note. * indicates facilitator-talk category
Summary of findings.
The presence of a dilemma.
Essential to foundations of whole-class critical discussions was the presence of a
dilemma in which to reason. As Bakhtin (1981) asserted, vocal expressions lack meaning in and
of themselves. If class talk exists only as student conversation, as Dewey (1910) found,
expressions tend to take the form of short, disconnected sentences. I found that if a given topic
up for discussion did not present a quandary, then the expressive dynamics of that topic slanted
inwardly, causing a group-talk to take on a selfish, uncritical description. Moral dilemmas,
fiction pieces, and factual narratives (aside from “The Night the Bed Fell”) each offered a
noticeable controversies for participants within this study to understand. Seven of 10 texts read
for this study posed a moral dilemma: a decision to make about right or wrong. Two pieces of
fiction (“The Tell-Tale Heart” and “A Sound of Thunder”) prompted readers to make a decision
about the feasibility of character actions or plot occurrences. Nine of these textual choices
provided opportunities for the construction of critical discussion questions. Topics generated
without the aid of textual situations accounted for four of the 14 discussion questions presented
in this study. Three of four non-textually related topic questions posed a critical dilemma in
which to discuss. Only “What would you do on the last day of your life?” did not prompt a
reasoned discussion.
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I discovered that reasoned discussions emerged consistently from dialogues centered on
philosophical and moral dilemmas. Lipman (1982) established that the use of philosophical and
narrative pieces of fiction directed students into critical discussions, and this study’s findings
supported that claim. Three of four philosophical/moral dilemma texts chosen for this study
elicited a greater ratio of exploratory moves than did texts chosen or topics constructed from any
of the other three discourse categories. While, according to Coles (1994), dilemma texts are not
effective stories in any literary sense, those read and discussed during the current study did
function aptly in the elicitation of exploratory talk. An advantage that talk deriving from
philosophical/moral dilemmas had over discourses initiated by traditional fiction and factual
narratives was that the terse length of moral dilemmas made it possible to enact a read-aloud and
a discussion within the same class period. The number of participant moves was greater during
moral dilemma talks and an increase in turns taken may have been due to students being able to
interact about a dilemma during the same class period as the controversy was identified and
studied. Coles (1994) suggested that traditional stories many times lack the pedagogical context
for engaging students in critical discussions, but other than “The Night the Bed Fell,” each of the
traditional stories used posed a critical problem in which to reflect.
Elapsed time between read-alouds and class discussions.
Also, time elapsing between the reading aloud of fiction and factual pieces and the
discussions that followed may have affected the dynamics of those six talks. Only one fiction
story, “A Sound of Thunder” produced a dialogue deemed wholly exploratory of the six stories
chosen for this study. In all cases in which stories were discussed, the read-alouds occurred
during the class period before the class discussion transpired. This break between story
comprehension and the retention required to vocalize about it two days later may have caused
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some participants to second-guess whether or not they would engage at all. As for the moral
dilemma texts shared aloud, those were actually read during the same class periods as the talks
that coincided with them. In this sense, comprehension of the moral dilemma texts were fresher
on students’ minds and could have contributed to increased frequencies of moves in comparison
to moves spoken during fiction and factual narrative talks.
Text evidence and vocal participation.
Similarly, participant recall of text evidence was more challenging for students to deliver
during talks about fiction and factual narrative topics. Since those discussions ensued two days
after their in-class readings, evidence about characters, plot occurrences, and theme were on the
cognitive forefront of students’ minds. Evidence that could be gleaned from moral dilemmas
read in class on the same day as the dialogues ensued was easily retrieved mentally for
participants. Moreover, textual evidence was not available for students to reference at all when
discussing non-textually developed topics. For those discussions, participants relied on
experiences and observations exclusively. In this sense, ideas and opinions may have been
perceived as more refutable since no concrete textual proof existed during talks that emerged out
of interest topics. In fact, the four non-textually developed interest topic discussions averaged 80
Disputes per dialogue – more than was averaged within any other category of discussion topics.
Topic-question syntax and engagement dynamics.
While the presence of textual and non-textual dilemmas allowed for participants to
produce topic questions that elicited critical responses, it was found through this study that topic-
question construction contributed considerably to the depth in which students would engage in
thinking out loud. Furthermore, it had been previously discovered that analytic class discussions
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created a more progressive flow of expression, and this engagement stemmed from allowing
students to pose problem situations and frame their own question prompts (Freire, 1970; Gadotti,
1996; Giroux & McLaren, 1989; Shor, 1992). Likewise, the diction and syntax used in the
creation of topic questions proved important to the dynamics that were ultimately expressed
throughout the current study. Certain stem words (instigating prompt-words) mattered toward
indicating how participants would comprehend topic-question context. This comprehension
thusly affected how participant responses would be expressed. If a question-stem posed “why”,
the dynamics of reasoned and unreasoned talk proved different from those times when the topic-
stems prompted “what would you do”. “Why” was noted as a stem prompting reasoned
explanations – a catalyst toward exploration. “What would you do” on the contrary impelled
students to respond inwardly, expressing personal thoughts that did not move the class toward
joint understanding – which, as Bahktin (1981) and Vygotsky (1978) discovered, occurred as an
outward projection within a social context. Topic questions like “What would you do in Heinz’s
situation?” and “What was going on with this family and phobias?” did not help to initiate
critical thinking out loud. Those questions did, however, trigger a number of expressed personal
aims, resulting in self-centered deliveries on the whole.
Further understanding was attained, also in relationship to topic-question syntax and its
importance to the promotion of reasoned responses. Atwood et al. (2010), Burbules (1993),
Cazden (2001), and Lipman (2003) all found that dialogues which promoted shared
understanding also prompted perspective-taking. Likewise, I discovered that close-ended
question-stems requiring participants to take a moral side consistently moved participants toward
reason-giving during those dialogues employing such stems. Topic-questions such as “Should we
kill animals?” “Do you pull the switch?” “Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing?” “Can killing a
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butterfly in the past have an effect on the future?” and “Was the dropping of atomic bombs on
Japan justified?” syntactically prompted students to choose sides. Moreover, once a side was
chosen, the syntax used also prompted vocal participants to provide a reason for their initial
opinions. While only two of the five questions listed here produced wholly exploratory talks, the
frequency of exploratory moves expressed in each was considerably greater than delivered
during those discussions that did not prompt students to take sides. However, one prompt that did
elicit side-choosing but that did not qualify syntactically to aid in the production of exploratory
talk was the topic-question “Which school is better, TLA or CKA?” While a request for
participants to reason as to why TLA or CKA is better was implied, the fact that 23 of 25 class
members had attended only CKA (of the two schools discussed) and possessed only experiences
from that school, caused the dynamics of this discussion to slant inwardly. The syntax was
constructed in a way that was comprehended by participants to reply more through the
expression of personal and anecdotal experiences.
Two other topic questions that seemingly employed stems identified to be promoters
leading participants toward exploration fell short of prompting a high frequency of critical
reasoning because of their confusing syntactical construction. “Why did Mathilde marry a clerk
if she was unhappy with her position in life?” and “Was not being humiliated worth the death of
a living creature?” tallied more votes than any other topic-question submissions offered for their
given stories, yet the level of participant understanding, as analyzed through data-transcription
coding, did not compare with the attention each received. The question about Mathilde from
“The Necklace” was not thematically important and caused many participants to venture toward
responding off-topic – about a question more related to the main idea of the story. The question
related to the actions of George Orwell from “Shooting an Elephant” caused responses of
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confusion as well. The syntax structure of the chosen question itself “Was not being humiliated
worth the death of a living creature?” seemed to cloud complete comprehension of the prompt.
The negating qualities of the word “not” seemed to easily produce a misunderstanding of this
question. Likewise, many responding participants chose to disregard this question altogether in
lieu of a side-taking submission that did not win the student vote: Did George do the right thing?
Influences of mainly-exploratory participants.
Each of the three dialogues that came to be wholly defined as exploratory (Dialogues 6,
11, and 14) included at least one-third of the number of students also being deemed as mostly
exploratory as well. Dialogue 6 produced 11 mainly-exploratory speakers, Dialogue 11 presented
8 such explorers, and Dialogue 14 contributed 10 mainly-exploratory participants. Even
Dialogue 10, a talk very nearly defined as exploratory, produced 7 of 25 mainly-exploratory
participants. In fact, within each of the four dialogues either considered exploratory or deemed
almost exploratory, no fewer than half of the mainly-exploratory participants were less-assertive
members of class. Of all the less-assertive participants who emerged as a mainly-exploratory
contributor, Mallory stood out. Mallory not only expressed inward exploratory positions and
deductions but, perhaps more important to the contribution of discourses as a whole, she inquired
more critically, inducing others to engage in exploration as well. In this sense, Mallory served as
a second facilitator during 7 of the 14 observed talks.
Influences of argument-sequences on modes of discourse.
Just as back-and-forth sequences of student exploration helped to lead conversations
toward critical and creative understandings, so too did sequences of dispute through
argumentation contribute to disputational delineations. Dialogues which were comprised of a
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small number of argument sequences (argument-rebuttal-counter-argument sequences) aided in
leading a discussion toward exploration. However, dialogues that produced six or more argument
sequences did not lead to wholly exploratory talks, and those discussions that included nine or
more argument sequences led to highly disputational discourses.
Sequences of dispute were defined as those series of participant turns and moves which
initiated as arguments. In this study, for a sequence of dispute to have been identified, multiple
participants had to initiate argumentation, followed by rebuttal and counter-argumentation. It
was discovered that the more these sequences emerged in a given dialogue, the less chance
exploratory talk had in becoming initiated. Three different dialogues produced nine of more
sequences of dispute. None of these three talks (Dialogues 4, 9, and 12) came to be identified as
wholly exploratory. Moreover, dialogues that produced very few sequences of dispute, like
Dialogues 7, 8, and 13, did not end up as exploratory discussions on the whole either. The three
dialogues that came to be defined as exploratory overall (Dialogues 6, 11, and 14) produced five,
four, and three sequences of argumentation, respectively. In any case, the inclusion of some
sequences of dispute triggered interjections from those who hoped to steer discussions more
toward exploration: be they the facilitator or a participant. However, talks whereby the sequences
of dispute rose into the 10s proved harder for exploring interjectors to steer toward exploration.
Table 41 details those observed dynamics that most influenced exploratory and
disputational speech. Each of the four discourse categories (Non-Textually Generated,
Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas, Traditional/Classical Fiction, and Factual Narratives) are
separated from the others, indicating influences on modes of discourse. Dilemma-delineations,
topic-question syntax, numbers of pure explorers, and argument sequences are shown in
relationship to the number of Explorations and Disputes expressed within each of the four
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discourse categories. In Table 41 “Dilemma” indicates whether or not the discussed text or topic
provided a quandary in which to deliberate. “Syntax” refers to whether or not the topic-question
constructed and chosen by the class elicited critical reasoning consistently. “Explorers” in Table
41 indicates how many participants within each discussion explored more than he or she
disputed. “AR Sequences” represent here the number of times multiple participants engaged in a
back-and-forth dispute that was initiated by argumentation and progressed into rebuttal and
counter-argumentation. “Ex” and “Dis” stand for the total moves of Explorations and Disputes
expressed during each of the 14 observed dialogues.
Table 41
Influential Dynamics Essential for Defining Whole-Class Dialogues
Non-Textually Generated
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
1 Why don’t … attention to lyrics? yes no 0 6 14 56
5 Which school is better? yes no 5 6 41 75
9 Should we kill animals? yes yes 2 9 53 95
13 What would you do … last day? no no 2 0 58 92
Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
2 What would you do… Heinz’s? yes no 3 3 27 64
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6 Purpose of “Frederick?” yes yes 11 5 67 47
10 Do you pull switch?/Push man? yes no 7 4 84 90
14 Did Luttrell do the right thing? yes yes 10 4 62 45
Traditional/Classical Fiction
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
3 Why did Mathilde marry a clerk? yes no 4 3 23 46
7 The narrator: crazy or clever? yes yes 3 2 53 65
11 Can killing in past affect future? yes yes 8 3 70 63
Factual Narratives
Prompts Dilemma Syntax Explorers AR Sequences Ex Dis
4 Was not being… worth death? yes no 7 10 23 60
8 What’s up with family/phobias? no no 3 3 35 65
12 Was… atomic bombs justified? yes yes 2 11 51 74
Student participation and its effect on modes of discourse.
Emerging from the 25 students observed in the current study were nine lead-speakers –
participants who took more turns per talk than others. Most discussions were led and guided by
the moves of this group of lead-participants. Partially, these nine participants came to be deemed
dominant-speakers because of their consistent intents, not only to join into a discussion, but to
deliver claims and positions more often than less-assertive students. Another defining quality of
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a lead-speaker was a tendency to deliver lengthier responses more than other less-dominant
speakers. However, a commonality shared by this group of lead-speakers was that the more they
vocally controlled a given dialogue, the more disputational talk ensued within these discussions.
This revelation also coincided with data pointing to the fact that a greater frequency of vocal
moves expressed within a given dialogue indicated that that discussion trended toward being
defined as disputational. Less-assertive participants, on the other hand, produced a lower ratio of
disputational moves and were more apt to deliver moves of exploration in comparison to lead-
speakers within given talks. In fact, speakers emerging within certain dialogues who contributed
more exploratory moves than disputational moves were more often less-assertive members of
class. Table 42 shows the categorization of Explorations, critical inquiries, and Disputes spoken
by each of the nine lead-speakers within the context of all 14 class dialogues enacted for this
study.
Table 42
Total Numbers of Explorations, Critical Inquiries, and Disputes Made by Lead-Speakers
Lead-Speaker Explorations Critical Inquiries Disputes
Becca 62 14 92
Calvin 55 10 141
Aaron C. 49 4 75
Elizabeth 48 14 46
Marcus 41 10 67
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Jamie 35 8 56
Shannon 35 10 55
Kasey 33 10 52
Kathy 27 3 52
Totals 385 of 661 83 of 130 636 of 937
As indicated by Table 42, nine lead-speakers in a class of 25 students contributed 58% of all
Explorations delivered, 64% of all critical questions asked, and 68% of all Disputes uttered. All
other moves of exploration and disputational talk were delivered by the other 16 non-dominant
participants. Of special note were the contributions of Mallory. Though not considered a lead-
speaker (because she never tried to enter into a dialogue until she weighed the thoughts of others)
Mallory provided 100 moves categorized as Explorations, Critical Inquiries, and Disputes. Even
though she expressed fewer moves than eight of the nine dominant-speakers listed in Table 41,
Mallory surpassed all nine with her individual contributions of Explorations (64) and critical
questions (20). Furthermore, Mallory uttered fewer Disputes (16) than any lead-speaker
throughout the current study.
Gender and its effects on modes of discourse.
As observed dialogues progressed chronologically, and the emergence of participants
who came to deliver Explorations increased as a whole, boys were noticed to have expressed
fewer exploratory moves than girls. Partially because girls outnumbered boys 14 to 11, total
moves in general were spoken by girls. It was also observed that dominant-speaking boys were
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more apt to deliver arguments, rebuttals, counter-arguments, and topic-shifting claims. However,
when it came to moves of exploration, especially moves of critical inquiry, boys delivered
questions to the group less frequently by far. Boys, throughout the first eight discussions,
explored more inwardly than outwardly. Most exploratory moves expressed by boys, especially
during Dialogues 1-8, were uttered as statements of position or requests for reasons. In fact, not
until Dialogue 9 did a lead-speaker boy (Calvin) pose a question of critical inquiry: divergent,
assessment, or informational. Interestingly, during the final six talks, boys, as a group, delivered
more moves of exploration. In accordance, total exploratory moves for the class were spoken
with greater frequency. Table 43 shows the division, by gender, of Explorations and Critical
Inquiries made during each observed dialogue.
Table 43
Exploratory Moves and Critical Inquiries Delivered According to Gender
Dialogue # Total Explorations Boy Explorations/Crit Inquiries Girl Explorations/Crit Inquiries
1 14 2/0 12/2
2 27 10/0 17/2
3 23 12/2 11/2
4 23 9/0 14/3
5 41 15/2 26/4
6 67 20/0 47/10
7 53 13/0 40/8
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8 35 9/0 26/2
9 53 25/8 28/9
10 84 35/7 49/8
11 70 40/12 30/4
12 51 16/4 35/9
13 58 24/3 34/12
14 62 24/5 38/12
Totals 661 254/43 407/87
Facilitator participation and its effects on modes of discourse.
A contributing factor to an increase in boys’ critical engagement during the final six
dialogues was a proliferation in the number of facilitator interjections spoken during those six
discussions. Interjections by the researcher as facilitator were delivered for the sake of moving
each given dialogue toward exploration. When I interjected, speakers were directed on topic,
toward involving others, or toward deeper reasoning. Procedural interjections, delivered most
often, were uttered to keep the talk flowing – yet flowing toward exploration. Following 102
procedural interjections, the next participants’ turn resulted in an exploratory move. Substantial
interjections, by design delivered to elicit exploration, also prompted participants to think out
loud critically. Dialogues which included more procedural interjections than substantial ones
indicated that that given discussion required more of a push toward exploratory talk. Discussions
in which substantial interjections were greater showed that the participants themselves were
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steering the talk toward exploration. During these dialogues, my role changed from that of
ground-rule enforcer to that of participant-learner. When dialogues took on more exploratory
slants, resembling Community of Inquiry, I was able focus my interjections on prompting
speakers to think deeper out loud. Table 44 charts the relationship between facilitator
interjections and student expressions throughout the 14 discussions of this study.
Table 44
Total Facilitator Moves in Comparison to Student Explorations and Disputes
Non-Textually Generated Topics
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
1 Why don’t we pay attention to lyrics? 8 2 14 56
5 Which school is better, TLA or CKA? 16 9 41 75
9 Should we kill animals? 27 11 53 95
13 What would you do on your last day? 17 1 58 92
Totals 68 23 166 318
Philosophical/Moral Dilemmas
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
2 What would you do in Heinz’s situation? 11 9 27 64
6 What is the purpose of “Frederick?” 12 15 67 47
10 Do you pull the switch?/Push the man? 34 27 84 90
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14 Did Officer Luttrell do the right thing? 24 10 62 45
Totals 81 61 240 246
Traditional/Classical Fiction
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
3 Why did Mathilde marry a clerk? 12 4 23 46
7 The narrator: crazy or clever? 8 12 53 65
11 Can killing in the past affect the future? 15 7 70 63
Totals 35 23 146 174
Factual Narratives
Question Procedural Substantial Explorations Disputes
4 Was not being humiliated worth killing? 16 4 23 60
8 What was up with this family’s phobias? 7 6 35 65
12 Was dropping atomic bombs justified? 14 9 51 74
Totals 37 19 109 199
Thinking out loud and the emergence of Community of Inquiry.
Six of 14 observed dialogues indicated at least one sequence representative of
Community of Inquiry. Although two of the three exploratory discussions presented two distinct
sequences of Community of Inquiry, one exploratory dialogue (Dialogue 11) did not venture
once into identifiable aspects of community talk. Within this study sequences representative of
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being defined as Community of Inquiry had to involve multiple speakers engaged in a back-and-
forth critical exploration of a given topic. Those sequences deemed representative of Community
of Inquiry also exhibited at least some moves of student inquiry. During the six Community of
Inquiry sequences, turns and moves did not last longer than a minute or two, but each indicated
an honest, critical and respectful concern for exploration. Even within discourses that came to be
identified as more disputational than exploratory, Community of Inquiry emerged in directional
shifts between moves of dispute and exploration. Once the sequences of classroom community
transpired, they did not consume many turns or time on task, but possibilities were observed
indicative that such critical, creative, and caring discourse could exist within a whole-class
dialogue with seventh-grade participants.
The effect of procedural norms on exploratory talk.
The 12 ground-rules enacted in support of exploratory, dialectical talk existed as a
referenced and useful safeguard against threats of blatant disrespect; however, these procedural
norms did not suffice to serve as a specified platform for participants to follow in order to
achieve critical, creative, and caring social interactions. While consistent review of the ground-
rules aided some participants in expressing themselves with care and respect, those pre-dialogue
reviews were not observed as functioning elicitors of critical and creative expressions. Few
dominant-speakers, once engaged with emotions and aspirations to debate, used the 12 posted
ground-rules as a guiding factor for change. Some participants, especially a few less-assertive
members, did rely on the guidelines set forth by the ground-rules. They would occasionally try to
enact various moves recommended by the posted norms – sometimes with success, sometimes to
no substantial avail. Greater success in getting participants to follow the ground-rules was done
indirectly by way of facilitator interjections. By delivering utterances of procedural reminders
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interspersed within dialogues in attempt to lead participants toward an observance of our norms,
I, as facilitator, was able to provide a greater impact on individual students of how to engage
critically and respectfully.
Conclusions
The emergence of lead-speakers and less-assertive speakers.
A resultant, encapsulating idea which emerged from this study of thinking out loud was
that seventh-grade adolescents might not have a basis from which engage socially. Their
culmination of prior experiences, as related to classroom talk, indicated consistent familiarities
with initiation-response-evaluation (IRE) methods of teacher-student interactions (Cazden,
2001). Judging from our lead, dominant speakers’ propensity for uttering claims and “being
right” with their vocalized ideas, participants for this study had been taught in traditional and
directly authoritative ways. For the most part, my participants’ vocal utterances in the classroom
had been teacher-solicited for the sake of evaluating their topic knowledge (Cazden, 2001;
Mercer & Dawes, 2008). In this sense, dominant-speakers throughout the current study
interacted with peers as they had experienced interaction with their teachers – by means of
imparting “knowledge” on more acquiescent members of our group (Atwood et al., 2010;
Burbules, 1993; Cazden, 2001; Lipman, 1980; Nystrand, 1997; Rogoff, 1990).
Participants’ lack of dialectical experiences stemmed, seemingly, from their educational
upbringings. The participants of this study had been educated in a tradition by which they were
perceived as the receptors knowledge from authoritative sources (Habermas, 1984; Shor, 1992).
Once engaged in a social, dialectical environment, their obvious interactions within emerged
awkwardly and according to their prior experiences with conversation. The more dominant
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participants of this group initially and consistently understood Thinking Out Loud dialogues to
exist as debates in which to win. These lead-speakers, despite consistent reviews of procedural
norms, did not, as Lipman (1980) and Freire (1970) suggested from dialogue participants,
suspend their personal beliefs for the sake of shared knowledge. When provided opportunities to
vocalize with a group, their speech turned inwardly. Critical questions of inquiry asked of others
were issued seldom by lead-speakers throughout the four months of this study. In lieu of
exploratory inquiry, a major goal of many of our lead-speakers was the transfer of knowledge
from them to the other students – a mirror image of methodologies in which they were
consistently exposed, whereby these very students were instructed by a person of authority
(Burbules, 1993). There existed an air with our lead-speakers (especially Calvin, Becca,
Shannon, Aaron C., Marcus, Kathy, and Jamie) that they were the ones “in the know” and that
other students were not. Some of these dominant-speakers even expressed a sort of dutiful
agenda to relay their knowledge to the other students in the class. In some situations, less-
assertive speakers acquiesced to these authoritative offerings and shut themselves off from
engagement in our dialogues. In other situations, some less-assertive members (Mallory, Tripp,
and Javier) emerged to take the mantle of critical, creative, and caring talk upon themselves for
the sake of establishing exploratory discourses. Moreover, as our dialogues progressed and
engagement moves became more respectful, lead-speakers began to join more in exploration and
in posing questions of critical inquiry.
The importance of dilemmas and timing.
Enacting class dialogues for this study centered on initiations of dilemmas in which to
discuss. As the procedure for carrying forth discussions was aligned with methods used to
achieve Community of Inquiry and exploratory talk, literary quandaries were necessitated in the
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form of in-class read-alouds (Fisher, 2013; Lipman, 2003; Mercer & Dawes, 2008; Wartenberg,
2009). Without the advent of a dilemma in which to discuss, dialogues would transgress into
modes of dispute and/or agreement, devoid of a catalyst promoting exploration (Lipman, 2003;
Mercer & Dawes, 2008). During this study it was found that while the inclusion of literary
dilemmas was essential toward achieving exploration or a Community of Inquiry, time elapsing
between the read-alouds and ensuing discussions contributed positively and negatively to the
dynamics of talks over stories.
Fiction and factual narratives read-aloud for this study required student-participants to
maintain a cognizant comprehension of those texts for an additional day before dialogues could
take place. As the host school of this study, CKA, functioned on an every-other-day block
schedule. Chances to read-aloud stories of length and to discuss them within the same class
period were not available. Even with class periods lasting an hour and a half, a push to read and
try to hold a 30-40 minute discussion was always out of the question. Under that circumstance,
students during this study, even upon hearing a review-refresher over the stories read prior, had
to delve deeper into their understandings of given pieces of fiction and factual texts in order to
initiate mental evidence useful for our talks. Copies of discussed texts were always provided
before engaging in the dialogues, yet the elapsed time between readings and discussions may still
have contributed to silences and unclear vocalizations. While participants’ cognition and
memories of text evidence were stretched during dialogues resulting from our six pieces of
literature, discussions initiated from non-textually generated topics also faced drawbacks related
to students not being able to provide text evidence. Since non-textually generated topics derived
from student and teacher interest, evidence supported during these talks originated and
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developed strictly out of prior experiences. Documented evidence could only be indirectly
referenced, if at all.
Philosophical/moral dilemma read-aloud texts used during this study were shared and
discussed within the same class periods. Moral dilemma texts were short enough to read to the
group and then enact a discussion all in one class session. Cole (1994) suggested that moral
dilemma texts were of lesser literary value but, in contrast, possessed more pedagogical context
than traditional stories for engaging students in critical discussions. In analysis of the four moral
dilemmas discussed, two of the four talks (almost three of four) came to be defined as wholly
exploratory, and I wondered if the terseness of the context and the immediacy of an ensuing
dialogue contributed to the frequency by which participants explored during these discussions of
moral texts.
Non-textually generated discussions and the advent of disputes.
Shor (1992) found that facilitated discussions initiated out of student interest helped to
bridge a schism existent between teacher-generated topics and peer-conversations. Dilemmas
identifiable with the experiences of the students who would be discussing them proved
significant toward merging teacher-student talk into a third idiom (Shor, 1992). Within this
study, the advent of non-textually generated dilemma topics instituted dialogues that became
defined by dispute. The four dialogues that ensued from non-textually generated topics combined
to average 80 disputes per talk. This number eclipsed the average number of disputes registered
by any other category observed within this study. This increased advent of disputational talk
seemed related, at least somewhat, to the fact that participant claims could not be vetted and
questioned against any text available. Opinions originating “off the top” of participants’ heads
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were provided more so during non-textually generated dialogues than during any other type.
Although student-to-student conversation was observed to be more at ease during these four
dialogues, I found participants’ ease within a discussion to be a prerequisite for disputational
talk.
Topic-question construction and the importance of syntax.
An emergent aspect to this study was the importance attributed to topic-question
construction. In order for questions to prompt participants to respond in a reasoned, exploratory
way, specific elements of syntax had to be included. Question-stems requiring participants to
take a side with an opinionated response also helped participants to produce reasoning to support
their opinions. This supporting answer emerged as an answer to the question “why” or “why
not.” Interestingly, the syntax of those side-taking topic-questions did not elicit participants to
explain “why” or “why not” – students were simply apt to do so. However, question-stems that
prompted participants to state what they would do in certain circumstances did not produce vocal
exchanges to exemplify exploratory talk.
Of the 14 topic-questions discussed, seven were constructed syntactically to allow for
more reasoned responses. Six of those seven topic questions prompted participants to take a side
when responding; one question did not elicit side-taking but did prompt students for a thoughtful
purpose to a picture-book dilemma. Two of these six topic questions were constructed by
student-participants, and four were created or supplied by me as facilitator. Besides the query
that asked students to discuss the purpose of “Frederick”, one other student-submission was
constructed so that more reasoned-responses might be delivered. Mallory’s topic-question
submission for “A Sound of Thunder” (Can something very insignificant, like killing a butterfly
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in the past, have a huge effect on the future?) also elicited students to take sides. All four of the
remaining syntactically-strong submissions prompted side-taking and were constructed or
supplied by me as facilitator. I had come to understand through facilitating other groups and
from successes of drawbacks observed within this study that any submission supplied or created
by me for consideration by this class would benefit this study by utilizing more reason-eliciting
syntax.
Interestingly, nine of 14 topic-questions were constructed by individual participants. Of
those nine questions created by students, seven exhibited syntactical concerns. Three of those
seven questions prompted participants to respond inwardly, prompting students to respond with
what they would do under certain circumstances. One of the seven questions with concerning
syntax did prompt participants to take a side, but the implied request for reasoning only allowed
for students to respond inwardly with utterances of personal experience (Which school is better,
TLA or CKA?). Two other student-created topic-questions proved to be ill-constructed and
either caused confusion among responders (Was not being humiliated worth the death of a living
creature?) or required participants to answer a question not related to an underlying theme of the
story, “The Necklace.” Incidentally, in the case of both of these latter two submissions,
authoritative lead-speakers (Becca and Shannon) provided these vote-winning questions. I
speculated that their perceived intelligence by others in class (along with their confident manner
of speech) contributed to several tallied votes in favor of their given question-submissions.
The effects of ground-rules and procedural interjections on modes of discourse.
Posted dialogical procedural norms known to participants in this study as ground-rules
proved useful insomuch as they were consistently referenced by adhering students or by me as
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facilitator. As stated by Wegerif and Mercer (1997), these norms are to be actively maintained
and facilitated if certain challenges and disagreements allowed for by the ground-rules are to be
kept on-topic and respectful. This knowledge was certainly useful to the process of facilitation,
as I discovered that active procedural interjections would influence the guidance of participants
toward exploratory aims as much as, if not more than, pre-dialogue reminders about the 12
ground-rules. While pre-talk reviews and reminders served to reset our discussion-focus before
each dialogue, consistent and active procedural interjections by me as facilitator proved
necessary in enlisting new speakers and resetting the discourse for exploring. With the number of
dominant-speakers vying for chances to engage totaling about half of the total number of
participants vocalizing during a given dialogue, my own procedural interjections helped to quell
their potential, encompassing monopoly on the conversations as a whole.
Following the entire observation process, I identified two qualms in regard to ground-
rules reviews and my own procedural interjections. I have come to believe that ground-rule 1
(Discuss things together.) should have been posted more descriptively. While I understand that
my own procedural moves accounted more toward keeping talks moving forward to exploration,
an additional phrase tagged to the posted ground-rule 1 for students to “Ask why” might have
made a difference in the frequency of critical inquiries posed during the course of our talks. The
inclusion of “ask for reasons why” was actually included in the context of the original ground-
rule 1 used by Mercer and Dawes (2008), but I had omitted it to keep the rules concise and
memorable. The reason I think the addition to ground-rule 1 was necessary was because, as a
facilitator dedicated to the idea of student autonomy, telling participants definitively how to
engage during procedural moves would not have been in accordance to my truth as a teacher or
in accordance to the validity strived for by this study. However, if the addition of “Ask why” had
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been attached to ground-rule 1, I would have felt more at ease about engaging students in pre-
talk discussions about its meaning on as many of the 14 occasions as they saw fit.
The second issue I had in retrospect since the completion of data collection for this study
was in regard to my delivery of procedural interjections. During the process of all dialogues, I
was very cognizant of entering and interjecting my voice into the talks too much – an act
definitively identifiable by Atwood et al. (2010), Cazden (2001), Nystrand (1997), and Rogoff
(1990) as teacher-imposing. I made a point to interject with questions more than edicts, and, for
the most part, I stayed true to that ideal. Yet, with the number of turns and length of moves made
by some of our dominant-speakers, it might have been helpful to non-dominant speakers if I had
suspended briefly some lead-speakers from entering talks. This is a practice I had employed prior
to this study, in other classes during other school years, but during the current study, I chose not
to suspend any lead-speakers because of the number of turns they took. Looking back, I think, as
a facilitator, I should have made more procedural attempts to have lead-speakers suspend, and I
should have made more of a procedural effort to involve other less-assertive members into our
discussions -- with more frequency. With retrospective knowledge I came to observe several of
our less-assertive speakers guide our talks toward exploration – leading our environment of
social interaction toward joint understanding. Moreover, it was our less-assertive speakers who
initiated sequences of Community of Inquiry more so than other lead-speakers throughout the
observed dialogues – supporting theories of both Cazden (2001) and Young (1992). Both
suggested that the indicators of communities of inquiry revolve around asking questions,
engaging in turn management, and reacting to others’ answers. As the progression of our talks
continued, our less-assertive speakers began to fit that description more and more. Furthermore,
if my analysis was apt to show and our less-dominant speakers emerged more poised to deliver
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moves of critical inquiry, then inserting my own facilitating voice more in regard to eliciting
these less-assertive speakers would have proved beneficial toward engaging the whole-class
more critically.
Implications for Practice
Teachers who follow a constructivist approach and those who consider themselves
facilitators of learning will benefit from the observed breadth of narrative documentation
included within this study. Those educators who are open to instructional practices whereby
students are permitted to take the lead in order to shape understanding together in the classroom
will appreciate how the participants within this study exchanged ideas back-and-forth, sometimes
seeking and finding common ground, sometimes challenging each other in dispute, and
sometimes exploring the topics at hand. Within this study, there exists a wealth of data
potentially useful in the further research of adolescents and whole-class dialogues. Findings
made here regarding the specificity of dilemma-texts, topic-question syntax, lead-speaker/less-
assertive speaker dynamics, and facilitator dynamics will prove beneficial to those hopeful about
adding further to limited empirical collections of narrative, dialectical research.
Implications for curriculum developers should also be noted. Consistently, dialogues
resulting from the study of philosophical/moral dilemmas provided more exploratory moves than
they did moves of dispute. Within no other observed category of study did explorations happen
as frequently in accordance to the total number of moves spoken as they did during discussions
about moral-reasoning texts. If critical, creative, and caring talk was observed at its most
frequent during talks over moral dilemmas, careful considerations should be taken by
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instructional strategists and curriculum developers for the considered implementation of
philosophical/moral dilemma texts into the seventh-grade reading canon.
A further implication that emerged and deserves greater analysis is the study of
constructive dynamics associated with facilitators of class dialogues. From this study alone,
greater explorations into the metacognitive role of a dialogue facilitator could be examined. A
facilitator’s role, if researched and practiced, includes many attributes – attributes detailed in this
current study. If teachers are to become facilitators, or in the least, more constructive modelers in
the classroom, a closer examination of the construction of discourse environments, inquiry
methods, guiding speech toward creativity and care, and the understanding of when to remain
silent are all implications worth knowing.
Recommendations for Future Research
The quantity and intricacies of data collected for this study allowed for much more to be
examined and understood. For example, emerging dynamics concerning adolescent gender-roles
as those influencing speaker-dominance in the process of whole-class talks should be considered
as a leading topic for future research. The data transcripts detailed for this study allow for better
understanding about the dynamics leading to speaker-dominance as well as speaker-acquiescence
to emerge. Moreover, this study presented conditions whereby several speakers remained mute
throughout multiple or many dialogues. Explorations into the psyches of silent students (as well
as secure and veteran participants) within group environments also arises as a recommended
study of interest. Also, observing the growth of participants’ critical, creative, and caring speech
as they progress through our talks chronologically is another intriguing study that can be enacted
with the narrative data available from my dialectical observations. Furthermore, I specifically
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hope to continually explore the dynamics that arise vocally in relationship to student-constructed
topic-questions as opposed to those topic-questions constructed by facilitators.
Concluding Remarks
This study of early adolescents’ spoken dynamics within whole-class dialogues proved
largely to be an observation of on-going exchanges of ideas. The class environment was
constructed in a way to allow for freedoms of expression – democracy in the classroom, as
Dewey (1916) and Freire (1970) might add. Our goals for vocalizing originated from what
Lipman (1980) and Fisher (2013) identified as critical, creative, and caring engagement.
Thinking out loud took place. Although at times expressions were selfish and inward,
argumentative and competitive, drifting and unclear, and shallow and callous, these 25 seventh-
graders also expressed speech both respectful and insightful, inventive and inquiring – many
times in the course of a few minutes. These observed dialogues never did culminate as complete,
packaged lessons that started in ignorance and ended in understanding, as Barnes (1976), the
initiator of exploratory talk might have one time imagined they would. However, all 14 talks
existed as exercises in social construction. For most of the 25 participants, vocalizing their
poignant and critical thoughts to a group of peers was new and awkward. Many had only been
allowed to project answers and claims in classroom situations, and many relied upon those
experiences when engaging in this study. In that sense, cognizant of the prior discussion
experiences of our group, the dialogues enacted within this study never progressed toward any
exact, joint knowledge of topic questions. In guessing, students took away from our talks a
myriad of challengers and solidifiers to their own beliefs about the questions prompted. Their
knowledge, as coined by Vygotsky (1978), was achieved intra-mentally. Very little emerged as
unanimously concrete for those present during Thinking Out Loud discussions; more inter-
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mental, shared learning was not outwardly observed. Yet, as Oakeshott was quoted as suggesting
from the beginning of Chapter I, the unanimous ideal was that participants took part in
conversations that “went on in public and inside each of ourselves” (Reed, 1998, p. 55). Every
utterance from this study was perhaps accepted, disregarded, remembered, and forgotten, but
regardless, it was the acts of conversation about meaningful things that gave place and character
to these talks. Whether or not the memory of things spoken by peers to other peers in a seventh-
grade English classroom in the fall of 2014 will linger, these topical expressions came to
resemble democracy; students were invited to join in a forum of ideas, and they did so by
thinking out loud.
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BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE
Upon completion of this dissertation, Jeff Herr will have graduated for the third
time from Texas Wesleyan University. Desiring to immerse himself in a more critical and caring
profession, Jeff left the corporate world of television news and began teaching English in Joshua,
the rural town of his upbringing. For the past 20 years, he has taught various grades between 6th
and 12th at traditional public schools as well as at two different charters. Jeff was accepted into
Texas Wesleyan’s third Ed. D. cohort in the summer of 2011 and has maintained an interest in
critical pedagogy and social learning through dialogical means since the time of his Master’s
classes in the late 90s. When not teaching or involving himself in philosophical interactions with
friends and acquaintances, Jeff enjoys cutting grass, running, writing verse, talking baseball, and
watching professional soccer. Those responsible for keeping Jeff grounded are his wife of 21
years, Christina, and their four children: Emerson, Isabella, Redding, and Vadin.