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INTERNATIONAL MILITARY TRIBUNAL FOR THE FAR EAST
Court House of the Tribunal War Ministry Building
Tokyo, J epan
The Tribunal met, pursuant to adjournment ,
9 at 0930.
10 Appearances:
11 For the Tribunal, all Memoers sitting, with
12 the exception of : HONORABLE JUSTICE E. STUART MCDOUGALL, 13 Member from the Dominion of Canada, not sitting from 0930 14
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to 1600; HONORABLE .n.JSTICE JU-AO MEI, Member from the
Republic of China , not sit ting from 1330 to 1600. ,
For the Prosecution Section, same as before.
For the Defense Section, same as before.
(English to Japanese and Japanese
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1 MARSHAL OF THE COURT: The Int ernational
2 f1ilitary Tribunal f or the Far E1s t is now resumed,
3 THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Brannon.
4 BY !:R. BRANUON (Oontinued):
Q There has been considerable t estimony r elative
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Did fl dmiral SHI MADA, as Navy l:inlster a t that time,
ever tell you that he want ed to attack the United
States without complying with inter national l aw?
A My r ecollection i s t hat at the time discussion
was held on this matter, SHIMADA sat in silence and
did not utter a single word .
Q Now, Vice-Admiral ITO, Vice-Chief of the Naval
General Staff then, i s the1man whom you state insisted
on an attack without notice; i s tha t correct?
A It is rrrf r ecollection that it was NAGANO who I
first mentioned the matter of a surprise attack; and
then, after t hat, ITO r equested tha t the negotiations
be left untermina t ed .
Q And did tlas conversation t ake place at a
lia i son crnfer~nce?
A Of course , yes .
Q Mr. TOGO , Admiral SHIMADA testified before this
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The quest i on , Mr. Presi dent, comes with ques
tionable ?r ace nt thi s tine, since the accused TOGO ' s
counsel went forward with nll of hi s docunents all
4 of them had been served -- and into the phases as thou~h
5 no r eservation nt all had been mede. And , furthermore ,
6 os I stated , in my. own ·mind there wns some question
7 r Dised by the Court as to whether or not that would be
s proper procedure, and it wos my underst~nding that my
9 off er to so limi t , W1 ich of course would need consent
10 or arr eement from the opponent, was r e jected , and I
11 went forwa r d under that unde rstanding. 12 THE PRESIDENT : I didn't understand Major 13 Blokeney to accept your suggestion when you made it 14 some days ago nor to try t o'pin you down today, but what 15 he did appear t o want to know wa s whether you propose , 16
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that ho mi ght shape his course or r eshape it . If I am 18
under misapprehension, he mny correct me . 19
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obligation to either. We will not
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have been broached because he ce rrie bock t o Ger many ,
but I ha ve no recollection of any conversation c-n
that .
Reference is made t~ exhibit 571 , page 6,465
(")f the transcr i pt. I n your d i scuss ions wfth Ambassa
dor Ott di d you not appr ove a plan drafted by the
German Foreign f! inistry which in part pr~vided ftlr
the buil ding of a demonstration hall in Tokyo?
A I have n("I r ecollection . However, I should
like to s tate tha t because ther~ was a proj ect under
di scussi~n wi th reference tc the erectinn of a
Japan-German Association building i n J ap an , and the
subject may ha ve been brought up in connection with
tha t subject . But I have no r ecollection of hearing
anything about what you call a demonstra tion hall .
Q V!as not the purpos~! of inten'!Jificat ion of
propaganda to i mpr ove the ruj.nds of the J apanese
people for cooperatinn with Ger many?
A It nas to foster g~od wi l l b0twcen Germany
and J apan .
Q Did you have u c~nvcrsati~n .with Ribbentrop
shortly prior t o 4 J anua ry l ? '1-2 reearding the question
of cc·operati :- n l x~ -+.\"8·':"'1 th~ Axis Power s and Japan in tha
f ield of pTopaga~da al~8cted esrP~!ally toward Ind ia
and t he Ar abian coun tries?
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the ECTper or to await the ad vice of those close tG him
or those who were his official ad vi sers . But a t that
tirr·ie , because the question W[!S one r equiring most
ur rent act.ion and there was no time to a\'Jai t any
unani mity of opinions within the povernmen t , or t o
awai t the for mat ion of a new cabine t, r ather than do 1
that, I think, his majesty the Err1,er or gave his
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RI;DITIECT f.XMH NATION
BY r:R. BL!J<ENEY (Continued) :
Q I want to ask you about one or two ma tter s
which wer e brought up but not ful l y covered during
y~ cr oss- examination . Fir st , on the 22nd of
December at page 3~ , 967 of t~e r ecor d , you wer e asked
about certain documents r ela ting to the per iod of the
Chinese Eastern Railway negotiations . Si nce one of
the documents of this type happen s t o be in evidence ,
I wi ll ask that i t be handed to you , exhibit No . 748.
(ryhe reupcn, a document was handed
to the witness . )
Please glance a t t hat and s tat e to the Tri
bunal to whom it is addressed .
A It says "To J;r . Si -Lui ··Ben , Special Agent of
the f(inist r y of l'o reign Affairs in North Manchuria . 11
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the Emper or to await the ad vice of those close t~ him
or those who were his official ad vi sers . But at that
tiMe , because the ques tion wes one re quiring mos t
ur pent act i on and there was no time to 8\'Jai t any
unani mity of opinions within the povernment , or to
await the f or mat ion of a new cabinet, r a the r than do 1
that, I think , his majesty the Err1)er or gave his
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THE ?I'.ESIDENT : Ma j or Bla l-:,G~ey. , '
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BY I'R. BL!JCE~TEY (Continued):
Q I want to ask you about one or two matters
which wer e brought up but not ful l y cover ed during
yo.Jr cr oss- examination . Fir st , on the 22nd of
December at oage 35,967 of t re r ecord , you wer e asked
about certa in documents r elating to the period of the
Chi nese Eastern Railway negotiations. Since one of
the documents of this type happens to be in evidence,
I wi l l ask that it be handed to you , exhibit No . 748.
(~hereup~n , a document was handed
to the witness . )
Please glance a t that and state to the Tri
bunal to whom it is addr essed .
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sea t in t he doc k . )
r ·~{ . BLf WET"' : That i s the end of t he i ndividual
case of TOJfl .
TEE PfFSIDI:t'T : ;·aror Blaken ey .
f r.. BLAKE NEY : I now p r esent the defense of
Gene r al U!fl?U, Yoshij iro. Ne ithe r tM e vidence i ntro-
8 duced by the pr0 se cution rela ting to this defendant nor
9 the e vidence wh ich the de f endant is in consequence calle<
10 upon to adduce in his own behal f ju stifies any elaborate
11 opening of the ca se . I shall the r efor e proceed directly
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I now offer, fir st, d efense document No . 2954 ,
the a ffidavit of AY ABE, Kentaro; who se pr oduction for
cross~examination I unde~stand not to be desired. '
THE PHESI DEFT: Colonel Ivanov.
COLot.JEL I VANOV : Your Honor, tr e prosecution
ob j ects to para1? r aph 3 of the a ffidav1 t of AYABE, Ken t ar
ina sirm.lch as at the b eg inning of thi s paragraph the wit-
ness submits hls o\'/n oe r sonal c:•nclus ion ba s ed on hear -
say . As to the allus i on to ID'E7U 1 s speech in 1937 at
the 17th Se ssicn of tho Di e t at the end o f thi s paragr ap
vie submit that it is secondary evid ence . The Tribunal
has always pr eferred , for quite f air r easons , to f!e t tre
ba s t evidence which, •n this c a se , would be to pr e s ent
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Tr ibunal will t ake judiaia l notice of it a s I sub
r.i i t tcd tte othe r day . If not , \'H: \ 1ill have t e r e st
nith tha t r e se rvation .
TEE Pm:SIDEPT: If the Tri buna 1 decides not
to act on the agr eemen t, I r.ave no doubt they will
Ei ve you liberty to r r occed to :;>rove the lav.' of Japan
in. the usual v.iay , but I do not ant icipate any dis -
agr eement. By " in tte usua l way" I mean in the manner
tha t a question of f act would be ~roved in any
na tional cour t.
rm . LOGIN : '.!Te will accep t thnt , ~rour Honor.
THE ?nr SI DEllfl' : Carta in Brooks .
Im. B'·.ooK S: If the Tribunal please , I was
a t this mee t inp, and I d id agr ee as to the mE" tr.od set
out in this apr eement, r eserving my right to comMent
on the pr eMi ses as se t fo rth by the prosf cution . Some
of the~ I disagr ee with. The r e may be othe r s that
have agr eed with t he me thod set forth for handling
these matters in order to save t i me for this Tr ibunal ,
1.Jut I \r1an t the Tribuna l to underst and t ta t tha t is my
posi tion .
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?l R. LEVIN : Mr . President , I was not a t
this mee ting thi s noon; and , as I understood it , the r e
v1as to be a d isc;ussion in r e lation to v• he t her or not
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THE PRE.SIDENT: Fr . Yamaoka . 1 MR . YAf!fl.OKA : May it ole~se the Tribun~l , I 2
wish t o object to th:s docunent . In the first place, 3
the wi tnes~ HORII~CUCHI when he WR S questioned or, .. this 4
document could not sta te definitely whether thjs telegram 5
6 w2s ~n offjcia l telegran of •he Foreign Office . I have
7 looked at the original, together \'.'i th m:; co-counsel,
8 and it is on paper which belonFs to the Foreign Office,
9 but there are no signatures showing that it is the ori-
10 gin~ l or a copy of the original telegram actually sent .
11 '~oreover, it just states that i t was drafted
12 February 8, 1938 . There is no statenent nor any
13 insignia or mark she., 1ing that it v: ~ s actually sent .
1~ As your Honors will recall, durin~ the testimony of many
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ex9lained. It is therefore possible that this nRy have
been a ar~ft subnitted by a mi nor bureau official in
the Foreign Office and merely remained in 2 draft form.
TEE PRESIDI:NT: It is describ~d as R telegram
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25 yeur Honors please , in the Foreirn Of'. ice, end if docu
nents of this nature are accepted without further proof
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TEE PRhSID'CNT : t'r . Yamaolrn . 1 MR . YM!.l\OKA : May it ole:\se the Tribun::i l , I 2
wish to object to th~s docunent . In the first place, 3
4 the wi tnes~ HORII~CUCHI when he WR S q~estioned or. .. this
document could not state definitely whether thjs telegram 5
6 wes ~n offjcial telegran of t he Foreign Office . I have
7 looked at the original , toge ther \'.'i th mj' co- counsel ,
s and it is on paper which belonrs to the Foreign Office ,
9 but there are no signatures showing that it is the ori -
10 gin~ l or a copy of the original telegram actually sent .
11 Moreover, it just states t hat it was drafted
12 February 8, 1938 . There is no statenent nor any
l3 insignia or mark sht.. 1ing that it v·r:is actually sent .
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15 of the defense witnesses , the Foreign Office practice
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been a drPft subnitted by a minor bureau official in
the Foreign Office and merely remained in a draft form .
THE PRBSIDENT : It is describ~d as ~ telegram
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25 yeur Honors please, in the Foreirn Of. ice, and if docu
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his f a ilure to recollect the l'l'!atter cont:-ined t~ierein
or his refusal t o stAte thet th e documen t ?.s tendered
to him ~ s the ori~ inal or not the origina l does not
qua.L.ify such ev:id.cnce as rebuttal evidence . If such
v:ere the rule a witness c.oul o be Asked on cross -
examination a very wjde r ange of questi ons on subjects
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simply admi tted in rebuttal just on that g roun~, I re
spectfully submit it would prolong the rebuttal to such
an extent and expand its scope t o such an extent that
it would be a l~ost unbearPble . In addjt ion I resoect -
L3 ft1lly submit that th::s docu•·ent prcb~bly w::i s in th e
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15 1 t s case and , in the a bsence of sol'Je showing excusing
16 their tender during its c~se, as w~s done in the c~se
17 of the defense when mA tter s relatinp to general sub-
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should be re jected .
THE PRESIDENT : f'r . Comyns Carr .
MR . COrl.YrIS CARR : If your Honor pleases ,
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~ARSHAL OF THE COURT : The International
~fi litary Tribunal for the Far Eest is now resumed .
THE PRESIDENT: P'r . Yamaoka .
M!t . Y AMA.OKA : tfay it please the Tribunal,
o 6 I do not propose to ar~ue Any further object ions . l f 1 However , I do desire to correct the state~ent which
s ny learned fr~end made , whjch I believe was to
9 the effect tha t the accused HIROTA admitted nothing
10 anJ denied nothil)g . I believe the Tribunal 1 s well
11 aware tr1at he has pleadf'd not guilty to the Indictment . 12
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THE PRESIDENT : l.'r . Comyns Carr .
MR . COMYNS CARR : Your Honor, my learned
friend himself informed the Tribunal thAt HIROTA had I not denied mPkinr this particular stateMent and it was 22
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24 put as a f round of objection to the docu~ent being
25 received, pointing out that he had not denied anything .
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THE PRl'SIDl:NT : CAptain Brooks.
MR . BROOKS: On behalf of the accused KOISO
I wis h to object to this docum~nt as having no proba-
tive value and being unimportant . I wish to object
furt her that it is not the best evidence, as it i s not
a tr2nslation from the original before it was altered .
This is apparent fron a previous exhibit, 3751-A,
on the bac~ ppge thereof .
Paragraph 1 of the prosecution ' s own exhibit
ren ds that the ~anuscript was t~ken of noteG to SAIONJI.
He read the materi al personally, corrected mi stakes,
and added whatever additional notes he deemed necessary
t o the manuscript . "He returns it to me the next time
I go to see him . Then a clean copy of this is made .
This is then edited again and filed away . "
THE PRl:.SIDENT : v:e have alreedy decided that .
\''hy bring it up aeain?
MR . BROOKS : This la tter clec.n copy with the
edited notes is what the Tribunal has before it, which
is third-hand, and I say is not the best evidence .
The prosecution has not m~de an Attempt to bring in
the original unaltered notes of HARADA , who had persona l
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and I have no opportunity to check them untjl after
it is too late, but I ask tha' the Court tRke the
page nunber given by the prosecution and study it
carefully and ascertain for thenselves whether i t
oenrs out his st? tement . I ob ject to this ?S having
no probative value 3nd not being important and as
beinr hearsay of the r ankest f orm . 7
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9 as mentioned in t ~ere , were crjtici zing eRch other,
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are overruled Pnc1 the docur1ont admi" t€'d on the usual
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3150- 10 will receive exhiuit No . 3756 for i dentifica -
tion only; and the excerpt therefrom , being prose-
cution document 3150- l OA, will r eceive exhibi t No .
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marked pro~ecution exhi bit No. j756 for
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J1:~ . BROOKS : I submi t thnt, i f ther e was a
written petition , it should be produced or some
thing in the nature of an official char acter that
shows there was such a petition before it is accepted
as i mpeachment evidence . HARADA would not have been
6 a bl e to make this stnte~ent in an affidavit , and
7 he should not be able to as a person preparing t his
s docu~ent for t he pur pose of writi ng a boek .
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namely KONOYE , by anott-er, narne l y MI NAf'I .
'i'FE P?.ESIDENT : By a mnj ority , the objections
are sustained nnd the docuMent ~ejected .
MP. . C011YNS CARR .~ I no\'' offer i n evidence
JPS docu~ent Nn . 3150- 249A relating to 13 August ; 1937 '
regarding a conversation bet\•,ween HARADA and HI ROTA
about t~e Shangha i Inc ident which was denied t: the
witness HORI NOUCHI at pp.ge 29 , 764 -6 .
THE PRI· SID:t.NT : Mr . Yarm oka .
MR . y AJ'/\CKA: MAY 1 t pl eASe the Tribunal'
the subject matter covered by t h1s tender is contained
in defense exhibits 3280 , record 29,934; exhibit
3180- L, 29 , 935; c:nd also i n the OKArWTO affidavit ,
defense exhi bit 3274, record 29 29: 6: and in the
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THE PRESIDENT : r~t- j or Blakeney.
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I think the inte resting thinp , however, is
thRt this is not even BPron rlARADA, or whoever may
be the nuthor of his memoris, who fee l s these things ,
For if we t urn to the conpl ete tr ~nslaticn of this
chnpter , we ~ind tha t the entire mntter contained in
this docur.ent is a p~rt of a l etter from th is informP.nt ,
Captnin T~KAGI, whoever he mPy be .
This document, therefore , not only, P s r.~r.
Comyns CRrr said, deals with the letter of TAKAGI's
but is i n fPct c pi:>rt of one of those l ett0rs Pnd I
submit should be r ejec t ed on the SHMO ground as in
the c~se of the l et t e r from TP~AGI 1n the preceding . ···,
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which pur ports to be the date of this interview ,
the 27th of October .
~ddition~ lly on the qu ~stion of probative
vR. lue , I point ou t that this purported conversat i on
i s r ecord ed by some one whose identify is not dis
closed , and we ha ve nbsolutely no guPr Rntee of ~ny
nature the t it correctly r Ppresents even the substance
of :iny conversati on which ever occurred .
Th~ t much on t he probative value .
On the iMport~ nce of this docu~ent , I thjnk
the l P- nr uage correction just mPde h~s very effectu0lly
disposed of whet sec~ed to te ~0vanced as the chief
rrounrl f or 1 t"s i ntroductionr t hct i s , if I under st;:md
correctly , this w~s be inf offe r ed to show th~t the
supges tir . 1 of a.trogPti on of the secret agr eement
annexed to the Ant i-Comi ntern Pact dj d not originate
with the For ei ;-n .~ini ster but v. ith the German side ,
a thing whi ch I might re~ark "wa s never suggested to
any of the witnesses wh o are now allered to be
rebutted by t hjs document . Unless my memory dec e jves
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24 ~itnesses na~ed WPS ever cros s - examined to Pny extent
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I would call attention by way of deviation here
t o the fact that table A and table B, and also table c, with respect to battle~hips, should be reduced by ei~ht
5 battleships, in view of the tes timony of Admiral
6 Richardson, transcript 11,235, not disputed in this case,
7 that the attack on that date, in the morning, either
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Battleships, 15 instead of 17 .
Destroyers, 142 instead )f 172, and
Miscellaneous types, 176 insteac of 1192 .
Exhibit 3838- B contradicts exhibit 3003-B in
the following classifications:
Under construction: Aircraft carriers, 10 19
instead of 22 . 20
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Submarines , 38 instead of 96, and
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IPS document 3341 , now exhibit 3838-A, as pre
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t o the fact that table A and table B, and also t able c, with respect to battleships, should be reduced by eight
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Battleships, 15 instead of 17.
Destroyers, 142 ins tead )f 172, and
Miscellaneous types, 176 insteac of 1192.
Exhibit 3838-B contradicts exhibit 3003- B in
the following classifications:
Under construction: Aircraft carriers, 10
instead of 22 .
Light cruisers , 18 instead of 31 .
Destroyers, 88 instead of 256.
Submarines, 38 instead of 96 , and
Miscellaneous, 349 instead of ?95.
IPS document 3341, now exhibit 3838- A, as pre
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Ocean areas . This table, therefore, further provides l
2 correction or uosition for exhibits 3003-A and 3003-B
3 ?S purporting to present comparative naval strength of
4 Japan and the United States on ? December 1941 .
That is all the comment that I care to make ,
6 sir , about the comparisons in correcting the record .
7 THE PRESIDENT: Are you sure you have called
B the right number of these exhihits?
9 CAPTAIN ROBINSON: I beg pardon, sir?
10 lHE PRFSIDENT: I am told vou are quoting ex-
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the record straight, may I give the IPS document number
and the exhibit number opposite?
IPS document 3340 is exhibi t 3838; 3341 is
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22 evidence, although they are merely supplementary to these
23 three charts and are not a necessary part of them.
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5 givi ng a review of events at Langson in Spptember 1?40 .
6 Thi s document is offered to r ehut the stAtement
7 made t-y the accused TOJO that: "an exchange of firing
s t ook plece betv•een the Japanese <:>nd French troops on the
9 bord~r between Fr~nch Indo-ChiRa and Chi na" , (Tr aescript,
LO pe.ge 36 , 202) , 8:na that this " small encounter of arms
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Thi s rPview of events at Lengs~n set f orth
the . i~portance of the ~attle whi ch ~ccurron i~ thi s
ar~a end e~Rtr&dicts th~ t\.c~.laratiAn of the accused
TOJO who tried to mini~izQ this battl e .
MR . L.AZA3US : Mr . Pres ident, I see that tee
Japanese and th~ ~~~ri~a8 attnrnoys f~~1. TOJO
are n~t present, SA on his beRAlf I will take the
g~neral Abjection that the accusod Rave off~red a goinst
this type of evi~ence ~
THI PRESIDINT: Well , w~ have not ·seen the
documant yet. -We are V'1ai tinF to bo supplied with
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the do~ument aAmitted on the usual t erms .
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Officer commanding the J apane se Division at Longtcheou
1 had a letter ultimatum intended for the High Command, 2 sent t o the Comranding Officer at Dong DPng, giving the 3 i nformati on that the Japanese troops would enter Indo-4
China peacefully and would pass through Hanoi and that
no armed resistance should be offered . 6
"At 2200 hrg, The Japanese enter Tonrking 1
8 in battle format ion on the front Binhi Chima . Sergt,
9 Dubuc on duty near Dong Dang , wounded by a bayonet at
10 2210 hrs , fired after chall enging .
11 "The Corporal of the blockhouse at Nan:iquan
12 on duty about 22 . 25 hrs fired shots in the air after
t3 challenging on noting su ~icious movements .
14 "Attack on the Namquan blockhouse and positions
15 et Oone Dang by artillery and t anks during the night
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General NIS!UHARA ' s Chief of Steff , to stop firing; could
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5 the main purport in context and the purpose of the
6 tender will be made obvious .
7 THE PRES·IDENT : Well , they must be in evidence
s bef or e we can go '--"er the omitted parts .
9 MR . YAMAOKA : Well, if your Honors please ,
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the pros 1cut i on generally to show that Mr . HIROTA ,
being pert of the government a t that time , t ook ~ n
uncompromis;ng s t and on naval disarmament .
THE PRESIDENT : A majority will admit this if
you include ~ ne onitted parts. Are they extensive?
MR. Y11.r/ACKA : I don 1 t YT1s1• which part Mr . Comyns
Carr des ire3, b~~ I shall be ~0~Y glud to obli ge him.
(Wh·~ . .- ~ l~f::m, at 1045, e r ecess was
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record 37,668; end 3778-A, record 37,672 .
THE PRESIDENT: Mr . Comyns Carr.
MR. co:MYNS C.~RR: If the Tribunal please,
this document doesn ' t answer anything in any of
those exhibits. If the defense wanted it, they should
have nut it in ~s part of their case .
MR . YAMAOKA : May it please the Tribunal ,
this excerpt further shows that r::r. HIROTA was in
fQvor of rapprochement and contradicts the prosecu-
tion exhibits above specified .
The prosecution hes often stated that there
have been inconsistencies in Mr . HIROTA ' s publ ic
pronouncements and some of his acti ons , and th~y have
endeavored to fortify that with the exhi bits I have
just mentioned . Thi~ tender shows the consistency
of action between Mr . HIROTA '~ pronouncement s and
his dealings with the various ~art ies in connection
with the d1.sarmament question . THE PRLSIDENT: By a majority the object i on
is overruled and the document admitted on the usual
terms .
CLERK OF THf. COURT: Chapter 155 of the
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to indicate that Mr : - HIROTA es Foreign Minister might
have been a party to the breach of the assurances .
THE PRISIDENT : By a majority the objections
are overruled ana the document admitted on the usual
terms .
CLERK OF THE COURT: Chapter 247 of the
SAI OUJI -HARADA Memoirs will receive exhibit No . 3875
for identification only ; the excerpt therefrom, being
defense document 3013- D, will receive exhibit No.
3875-A.
(WherGupon, the document above re
ferred to was marked defense exhibi t 3875
for identification; the excerpt therefrom
being marked defense exNibit No . 3875-A and
received in evidence . )
im . YAt1AOKA : May I respectfully invite the
attention of the Tribvnal to the fact that the chapter
number is missinr on this excerpt, but it should be
Chapter 247 .
I shall read exhibit 3875-A.
"On August 3 MATSUDAIRA, Chief Secretary to
the Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal, told me that on
August 2 the Chief of the General Staff proceeded t o
the Palace and said to the Emperor that the Army would
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have been a pa rty to the breach of the assurances .
THE PRISIDBNT : By a ma jority the objections
are overruled ana the document admitted on the usual
terms.
CLERK OF THE COURT: Chapter 247 of the
SAIONJI-HARAVA Memoirs will receive exhibit No . 3875
for identification only ; the excerpt therefrom, being
defense document 3013-D, will receive exhibi t No .
3875-A.
(Whereupon, the document above re
ferred t o wa s marked defense exhibi t 3875
for identification; the excerpt therefrom
be ing marked defense exwibit No . 3875-A and
r eceived in evidence . )
MR . YA1~0KA : May I r espectfully invite the
attention of the Tribunal to the fact that the chapter
number is missing on this excerpt, but it should be
Chapter 247 .
I shall read exhi bit 3875-A.
"On August 3 MATSUDA IRA, Chief Secretary to
the Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal, told me that on
August 2 the Chief of the Gener al Staff proceeded t o
the Palace and said to the Emperor that the Army would
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to indicate that Mr : HI ROTA es Foreign Minister might
have been a party to the breach of the assurances .
THE PRISIDBNT : By a majority the objections
are overruled and the d ocument admitted on the usual
terms .
CLERK OF THE COURT: Chapter 247 of the
Sft,I OUJI - HARADA Memoirs will rece ive exhibit No . 3875
for identification only; the excerpt therefrom, being
defense document 3013- D, will receive exhibit No .
3875-A.
(Whereupon, the document above re
ferred t o was marked defense exhibit 3875
for identification; the excerpt th~rcfrom
being marked defense exwibit No . 3875-A and
r eceived in evidence . )
MR. YAMAOKA : May I re spectfully invite the
attention of the Tribunal to the fact that the chapter
number is missing on this excerpt, but it should be
Chapter 247.
I shall r ead exhi bit 3875-A.
"On August 3 MATSUDAI RA, Chief Secretary t o
the Lord Keeper of t he Privy Seal, told me that on
August 2 the Chief of the Gener a l Staff proceeded t o
the Palace and said t o the Emperor tha t the Army would
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military on the question of the German Japanese alliance
was rejected by the Tribunal. If it had been admitted
it might perhaps have been admissible to introduce this
document, although there is nothing in this document
in fact to the contrary. If this document is admitted
now, I would ask the Tribunal also to admit the one
which they previously rejected, because , in my sub
mission, it would be clearly unfair to have the one with
9 out the other .
LO THE PIThSIDENT: Mr . Yamaoka .
11 MR. YAMAOKA : May it please the Tribunal , the
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agreed with t.he army in its views . This excerpt is
tendered for the purpose of combatting that, and we
therefore submit that it is important and has probative
value . Furthermore, I might state there is the charge
of general conspiracy fro~ 1928 to 1945 against Mr .
HIROTA, and this excerpt is tendered as showing non
cooperation and opuos~tion to the army and the General
staff . We respectfully submit that it may have an
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military on the question of the German Japanese alliance
was rejected by the Tribunal. If it had been admitted
it might perhaps have been admissible to introduce this
document, although there is nothing in this document
in fact to the contrary. If this document is admitted
now, I would ask the Tribunal also to admit the one
which they previously rejected, because, in ~Y sub
mission, it would be clearly unfair to have the one with
9 out the other .
LO THE PRbSIDENT: Mr . Yamaoka .
11 MR. YAMAOKA : May it please the Tribunal, the
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tendered for the purpose of combatting that, and we
ther efore submit that it is important and has probative
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cooperation and opuos~tion to the army and the Gener al
staff . We r espectfully submit that it may have an
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MR . BLAKENEY: Of course , because he knew
the di plomati c practi ce , your Honor ,
THE PRESIDENT : This rest s on my vote ; ther e
fore I have taken car e with it , By a major i ty t he
ob jection i s sust a i nea and t he document r e j ected ,
MR . BLAKENEY: Las t l y , I tender f or identifi
cation the For ei gn Mini str y Tr eaty Bureau ' s "Report
of Activiti es " f or the year 1941 and offer in evidence
an excer pt ther efr om, def ense document 3039 , This
document i s offer ed t o r ebut any poss ible i nf er ence
conta i ned i n pr oseeution exhibit No . 3835, trenscript
pages 38 , o65, et sequentia tha t t he abrogation of the
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THE PRESIDENT: Any objection?
Admitted on the usual t er ms .
CLERK OF THE COURT: The book ent i tled
"Report of Activi ties for t he Year 1941 , " printed in
J epanese , wil l r ece ive exhibit No . 3902 f or i dentifi
cat i on only and the excerpt ther efr om , bearing def ense
document No . 3039 will r ece ive exhibit No . 3902-A.
(Wher eupon , t he book above r ef erred
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throughout the witness ' affidavit he r ef er s to what
powe r and what jurisdiction the Foreign Ministry had
with rega rd to prisoner s of war . He r efers, ~n
addition, to a bureau set up within the Foreign Ministr y,
He suggest s that tha t bureau did not have any real
r esponsibility with r egard t o prisoners of war.
THE PRESIDENT: Well , that document contra-
~icts him. At most you can ~xpect an admiss i on that
he was wrong and, thereby, destroy his credit .
COLONEL MORNANE : With gr eat r espect, your
Honor , I don't agree with that . I submit that his
affidavit is susoeptible of some other explanation .
THE PRESIDENT: Ha s he left anything obscure
that could be r ectified by that document?
COLONEL MORNANE i He has left something ob-
scure for the r ectification of which this document can .
form the groundw ork .
THE PRES IDENT: Well , proceed to cross- examine
him. , We will see whethe~ you are correct o~ not .
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11\ . COT'"KS C A,..·r ~ f1ay it please the Tr i bunal ,
this document ~s of the same character as the last
except tha t it only begins th~ story in February 1945.
'!!e submit that it should be r e j e cted on the same
gr ounds as Admiral YOP/.I' s affidavit.
THE P~f5IDENT: It \'1as admitted thinking
there \'Jas no objection.
~m . LOGAN : Shall r r ead it, if the Tribunal
pleDse?
THE PF,ESIDENT: It is admitted on the usual
terms .
(Whereupon , the docuncmt
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that the accused rljd not nersonally have that power
but acted thrcugh the E~peror . I may have been
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4 ACTING PBl:.SIDE.NT : Your question was all
5 ri r ht. The only point I am ra i s inr is this: that
6 he didn ' t have to go i nt e that long dissertation to
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Q Do you know of any ease in the history of
Japan where the Na vy Mini ster discharged the Naval
Chief of General Staff by going to the Emperor
against the wishe s of the Chief of Na val General
Staff?
A I t is my understP.nd ing that there has been
no such case.
Q Well, wa s jt your duty to report r egularly
to the Diet?
A My duties and also a long prevailing
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21 Q Regarding the question of Japanese naval
22 confidence in regard t o the war , I will ask you if
23 you hea rd the accused KAYA testify before this Tri-
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but acted threugh the E~peror . I may have been
guilty in the frami ng of my question.
ACTI NG Pttl:.Slf1ENT: Your question wa s all
ri ~ht . The only point I am rai sinr is this : that
he didn't have to go i nt• thnt long dissertation to
tell us that .
BY 1•R . BR~NNON (Continued)~
Q Do you know of any ease in the history of
Japan where the Navy Minister discharged the Naval
Chief of General Staff by goi ng to the Emperor
against the wishes of the Chief of Naval General
Staff?
A I t is my understP.nd ing that there has been
no such case .
Q Well, was 1t your duty to report regularly
to the Diet?
A My duti es and also a long prevailing
practice of custom .
Q Regarding the question of Japanese naval
confidence in regard to the war , I will ask you if
you heard the accused KAYA t e stify before this Tri
bunal that Admiral NAGANO, at a liatson conference
as late as November 1, 1941 , said that the Navy wns
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t he prosecution will per Mi t , becaus e the next two
documents nee6 not be r~ad but only of~ered i n evi
dence: P.nd in fairnes s t o t he pr osecut ion . who rray
wi~~ t~ que s t i on t he ac cused concer ni ng t he se docu
ments, I would like t o ffer t hem in e vidence a t this
t i me .
V'e off€r in evidence de f ense document 622- B-1,
wh~ ch is an excerpt from the in terrogat ion of Admiral
SHIMADA by t he prosecu tion da t ed 14 Verch 19~ 6 at
Sugamo Prison. It is off er ed for t he purpose of
dispr oving the i nf er ence cas t by a pr evious excerpt
from the interrogation of Admiral SHIMADA , introduced
by t he pros ecution and appea ring on paee 10 ,194 of
the r ecord, that he knew about n~va l operational plans, .
i nc l uding the Pearl Harbor attack plan before becoming
Navy Minister. ·
ACTING PRLSI DENT: It may be aJmitted in evi ·
dence .
CLERK 01" THE COURT : De f ense document 622-B- 1
wi l l r eceive exhibi t No. 3573.
(Whereupon, the docu~ent above
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3573 and r ecei ved i n evidence . )
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please , if this inquiry is going to be devoted to
the subjec t announced , nAMely, oi l, there is no
objection what.ever. But t he prosec1.i tion does obj ect
4 t o this witnP.ss ' using that question as a means of
5 presenting his view3 on other matters.
6 YR . BRANNON: We quite agree with the prose-
1 cu ti on, and I wilJ. ask you, ft dm:i ral, to confine your
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CAPTAI N ROSI NSON : The prosecution objects
to the extent that that question may be calling upon
the witness to either repea t or revise his. answer of
yesterday.
ACTJNG PRESIDENT: Ask him what he Meant by
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~:111 tary Tribunal for t he Far lW! st 1 s now r esumed .
.ACTING PRESIDENT: ~r . Brooks . .,
l-'rt. BROO • .' S : If the Tribunal rlease , in this
exhibit, 3579 , I wish to submit the answers at the
top half of pages 12, 19, 20 and 38 to the Tribunal
for consideration as a possible answer to their ir,quiry
made through the Pre sident in relation to exhibit
523 . Exhibit 523 appeared at record page 6174 and
was a tel egram sent to Berlin by Ott . Paragraph 2?
of exhibit 3375, court record page -32 , 235 , rorso 1 s
affidavit, discusses th1s exhibit 523.
The President of the Tribunal asked· KOISO
on the witness stand why Ott would make statements
about KOI SO a s he did in this exhj t it 523 , which
KOI SO denied as having been ~ade by himself; and I
submit tha t by adopting these answers on the pages
hereinto referred the Tribunal may consider this as
a possible answer to their inouiry thereon and as
bear ing out KOI SO ' s r eply that it must have been an
attempt to i mpr ess the higher off i cials.
I wish t he Tri bunal to consider th ~ s as
evidence on the pages r efer red t o i n beh~ lf of KOI SO
as well as on behalf of SHI~JI TORI--th e se answers.
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please, if this i nqui r y is going to be devoted to
the subj ect announced , naMely, oi l, there i s no
objection wha t.ever. But t he prosec1Jt i on does object
to this witnP. ss ' using that quest i on as a means of
presenting his views on other matters.
VR . BRANNON: We quit e agr ee with the prose
cution, and I will ask you, ~.dmi ral, to confine your
answer to the question of oil, omitting other matters
as much as possible.
A (Continuing) I sn' t the point i n the question
that I am not consi dering the ~uestion of oil very
seriously?
Q Yes, the question was that, is not one
of the r easons urged for making war on the United
State s; is not one of the r easons the economic strangu
lation ·.vith r ega r d to oil, and you said, "That was not
a f ac t." I want to ask you if that is your answer
and if you w~nt to accept that now as your answer.
CAPTAI N ROSJNSON : The prosecution objects
to the extent that that question may be calling upon
the witness to e i ther repea t or revise his.answer of
yes ter day .
ACT::NG PRES I DENT: Ask him wha t he meant by
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r ilitary Tribunal for the F.a.r ~st is now resumed .
.ACrING PRESIDENT: ~r. Brooks . ..
J.'R . EROOI:S: If t he Tribunal rlea se , i n this
exhi bit, 3579, I wish to submit the answers at the
top half of pages 12, 19 , 20 and 38 to the Tribunal
for consideration as a possibl e answer to their inquiry
made through the President in relation to exhibit
523 . Exhibit 523 appeared at record page 6174 and
was a t el eg ram sent to Berlin by Ott . Paragraph 2 ?
of exhibit 3375 , court record page · 32 ,235 , roI S0 1 s
a f fidavit, discusses thjs exhibit 523 .
The President of the Tribunal asked· KOISO
on the witness stand why Ott would make statements
about KOI SO as he did in this exhjbit 523 , which
KOI SO den i ed as having been ~ade by himself; and I
submit that by adopting these answers on the pages
hereinto referred the Tribunal may consider this as
a possibl e answer to their inouiry thereon and as
bearing out KOI SO ' s r eply t ha t it must have been an
attempt to i mpres s the higher officials.
I wi sh the Tri bunal to consider th -l s as
evidence on the pages rc fer~ed to i n behAlf of KOI SO
as well as on behalf of SHI Rfl TORI-- these answers .
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the continuation of the negotiat ion v1 ithAmerica , ~ - 1
preparations having been considered only as a safeguard
against a really remote danger .
11 ( 14) After the September 6 Conference I v•as
requested directly b' · the Navy Vice- t.:inister fo r an
additional ~llocation of 300 , oco tons of steel.
about the same time the Director of the tqui pment Bur eau
8 of the 'dar l1ii ni str y el so asked me for mor e steel. I
9 r efused ~hese r equest s . Both mi nistries, espec i ally
10 the Navy , r epeated their demands , setting f orth , how-
11 ever , d i ffe r ent figures each time for their r equir ements .
12 The questi on was left pending until the war was actually
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1 that ··ras given in the interrogation wos sort of
2 confusing .
(To the Court : ) Your Honor , if you will permit
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submitted b~r you in answer to snottier question which
does not seem to have any bearinu on ttis , but I will
quote this part of the answer, and J quote :
"There began my connection with the Army
~eople and people , for instance t he papers , and all
of those thinrs, you know , savinp tha t the For eign
Office , saying tbat thev acquiesced in ttie policy
enacted by tre For eipn Office , while it is not the
case."
Could you have meant trat the public and
t he pr ess were insinuatin~ that the Foreign Office
acquiesced in the policy of the Ar~y , which was not
tbe case?
iffi . 81\NDUSKY : Hr . President , I sugrest ~rat
23 this is a ver~.r obvious attemrt to suggest to the \•1itness
24 the answer he srould give , but , more important--
25 THE INT~PRt;;'l'ER: Just a mo~ent , please .
The witness !='aid , 11ves , I think so ."
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GENERA~ VASILIIV : I request that the r uling 2 lof the Court as t o our document be intimPted .
'I THE. PRESIDENT : I am pointing out tha t differ-,, ence . You may make submissions if you wish .
5 G1_1~:.RAL VASILII'V : Defense document 2686-A
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9 to present summary date as well .
10 THE PRI SI DENT: That r aises another question .
11 We haven ' t that document .
12 GENERAL VASILil'V: This is a document on pre-
13 cisely the same subj ect .
14 THE PRES IDENT : Are you speaking of defense
t 5 document 1511. , exhibit 2647-A? 16 GENERAL VASILIEV: Yes , but there a r e three 17 defense documents, 2685, 2686 and 2687 . ThP.refore we 18
a!k that our document be admitted . 19
THE PRESIDENT z I think I will have t o look 20
into it fur ther . Most of my time during the r ecess was 21
spent attenr~~g t o a deputation about taki ng the Mongoi.iar 22
witness 1 evidence , and 23
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24 sufficient r esearch in t he few minutes I had . I would
25 like t o defer this until I have had a chance to look at
I !all those d ocumenys_;~I have not had that opportunity .
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The Tribunal met , ~ursuant to r ecess, at 1330.
MARSHAL OF THE COURT : The International
4 Military Tribunal for the Fer East is ~ow resum~d.
5 THE PR[SIDENT : Ma jor Blakeney.
6 MR. BLAKE NEY z By leave of the Tribunal, I
7 should like t~ make the remarks which I m~ntion~d this 8 morning rela tive to the ~uestion of r ecess . The prose-
9 cuti~n having been notified are here and I understand 10 willing that we should proce~d. I l
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many American counsel sharing P c ommon interest, to 13
add a word t o what J>r. UZAVIA has said . 14
15 Much evidenc~ , ~f a heterogeneous nature, has
beon introduced within the pest fortnight , and of 16
course evidence is still being introduced today. The 1.7
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fendants es may be affected the right in proper circwn-19
20 stances to re~pen their e~ses to meet this. Moreover,
21 as the Tribunal is aware, thi s evidence has not been
22 introduced . even nominally as in rebuttal of the defense
23 case , but on the bpsis of a wholly different test, the
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witness because that leads up t o the next question ,
May the witness answer?
THE ?RESIDENT: Yes, he may.
Q Was that your main mission?
A I would like to pave the question repeated.
(Whereupon , the last question was
read by the official court reporter.)
THE PRES IDENT: Why do you want to ascert ain
what his main mission was? He has told us what the
important missions were. He told us in his affidavit
he received such information. But whether it was his /
main duty or not is beside the point, is it not? It
certainly is a different question but does not lead
us anywhere . We are all beco~ing anryrehensive at the
weste of t~.me lnvolved in a detailed cross- examina tion
that does not help a t all ,
MR . CUNNINGHAMt Well , your Honor, on a
cross- examination you just don 1 t ask a mans "Did you
kill the man?" You have t o kind of lead up to it with
a few deta i ls.
THE PRESIDENT: Does that consist us in drawing
a sha r p distinction between main missions and
lmportant missions?
MR . CUNNINGHAM: I think it has a bearing .
THE PRESIDENT : We do not .
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11 1. ' The Preamble Draft ' is th?t thj s tre~ ty w h 1 a is an extension of the existing Anti - Corr.intern P~ct , ~nd 1 2 e is a plan wh5ch mAkes cle ?.r the in tent th~ t the Soviet n 3
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6 the United States are the greates t enemi e s .
7 "?, . The Text Pl an , Obligation of ~~ i litArY
8 Aid in Article 3, is not i nstantaneous or unconditionnl .
9 In order to nul l ify the daneer of becominb •nvolved in
10 C\ purely European pr oblem ag:>inst our will, a c onference
11 b~ f0re we enter with military a id is the principle .
12 11 3. I n order to allow the purport of this
13 ~reaty to take on a defensive ch~r11cter , 'menace ?nd
14 ~ t tack ' will be limited to 1 provocation. '
15 " 4. Furtherl"lore, the t ext of the plan is at
16 present under ze~lous consideration."
17 Q GenerAl OSHI~A, in co~pliance with your i n-
18 structions you comrmnicf\ted the Jap?nese revisions a t 19 once to Ribbentrop , didn ' t you? 20
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land ~nd Belgium, what ~?s the date of your trip? 23
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25 shortly after tecoming ~rnbassndor . I think it w~s
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Inion is the chie f t a rge t . Ca r e was taken so as not 4 &
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6 the United State s are the greatest enemi e s .
7 11 ?, . The Text , PlFm, Obligr-i ti on of ~iili tary
• 8 id in Article 3, is not i ns tantaneous or unconditionnl .
9 n order to nul l ify the daneer of becomino •nvolved in
1o pur ely European problem agP 1 nst our wi 11, a conference
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14 ttack ' will be limited to 'provocation. '
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16 resent under ze~lous consider a tion . "
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A According to my reoollection I feel that
the official request to Japan was made in 1943 and,
as I have been repeatedly telling you, this is only . my own recollection. Previous to that time many of
thei~ requests were repeat edly rejected . This date
to which you refer of July 9, 1942, I believe that
if a request was made at tho:c time it wa3 denied
but that reques t wa n not official -- Sep t emb er instead
of Jnly.
Q Regardl es s of whether the reque3t was
official or unofficial, did you at this conference on
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Q Did you not indicnte to Ribbentrop that you
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Q And did you also indicate that you wer e
enthusiastic over t ho i dea of Jap anese par ticipation
in the Rus so -Ger man War?
A I do not think I conveyed anything except
the expressions of diplomatic courtesyn
Q Do you mean to t ell t h i s Tribunal that
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16 am·n . .:. ;.:rncnr i s ·to faii.:hfully co~1vey what e.r3r m:e
17 fW\' -:: :ur.e·:!': wants t o say to any.;her; and what I sai d 18 ; wa s .:hat even though I knew in my own heart that it 19 was :i.mpossible for J apan t o carry on a war on two 20 fro11 .. s , it was my duty t o convey any German request 21
in t his r egard t o the Japanese and thus at least to 22
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--1 Q General OSHIMA , this morning you advised us
1 1 that you a r rived in Berlin on 19 February 1941. Do "\ ... you recall whether there was a r eception accorded you
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Q Who met you at the t r a1n? 6
A The State Secre t ary for Foreign Affairs . 7
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•) A V'eiszaecker .
LO Q Now, General OSHIMA, I am going to show you a
11 l etter prepared by General Weiszaecker benring date of
12 February 17, 1941, and I will ask you if that does not
13 r efresh your r ecollection on the date as to the date of
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A It was the 17th of February. I was mistaken .
i9 I Q And the telegram that you s t ated that had 20 I arrived before your arrjva1 actua11y arrived after your 21 I arr ival, didn 't it? 2l
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We are getting into a moot question again ,
your Honor, because I am not s t ...L ~ I am going to ask
him back. I merely want to preserve my record .
ACTING PRESIDENT S Well , I am not IP ing to
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A I have already repl i nd t o the fir st que stion, 2 but I di d not quit e catch t he l as t question . ,
O The l a s t question vms s As r epr e ~enting the
Navy were you not the Ui nist er of e t ot e and not the 5
Naval Chief of Staff AdMiral NAGANO ? Und er t he Con-6
7 stitution of Ja pan wa s j t not your duty and obl igation,
8 DS Mini~t er of s tate, t o give advi ce t o the Emper nr?
9 A What kind of advice?
10 ~ Advice i n r egurrl t o t he navy, pr esumably .
11 A Even i f matter s r ela t ed t o t he navy, if tt was
12 a question of operatj on~ , t hat wns t he r esponsibi l ity of
13 t he Naval High Command nnd not mi ne . You would und er-
14 stand t hat pos jtion cln~rly if you would ~ ee the Con -
l5 s titution.
16 Q 1 have seen t he Constitution. What part of it
17 ar e you r e f erring t o , Article 55? 18
A Article 11.
19 Q Yes . Now, a s Navy Minist er, wa s it not your
20 r esponsit i lity t o see that t he attac~ did not take place 21 t ef or e t he command of the Er.1 pvr or was compliod with, or 22 ar e you t el l i n, us t hat all of that res~onsibility can 23
24 be placed on t he Chi E; f of t h0 Naval Gener al Staff, who
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st~ff have c..1s-.·orocl ny question cbout the previous
r.1u tter Yti t r: c onside:rc.blo confidence , so instruct
TOJ O to ~)i"oc00d c s 9lc'1nocl. 11
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fr01;1 r:roo ' s dil'oc t tcs timo11y , ln tlY t t~~o proccC:urc
the t vms 0doptocl and not tho procedure uhi ch Captain
Robinson l'ccd to you'?
/\ The proc edure wns ~=·:- ct ly c.s s tntod in
Mrrquis KIDO ' s- -~·ffic'i.o.vit , is it , 01· diary '? 11
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thnt ho hcd :--nsr10 rod the que stions . '11hcrc rlilJ bo
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posit i on vis- a - vis he r negoti ations V11th th:- _U_n_i_t_e_d_ -,
States unle ss there was some povserful c'.'.>ntrol over
the Gene r al Staff Off ice of the army .
TEE INTERPRFTER: Sligrt c orrection:
The purport of my meaning as set f orth ther e
in my affidavit is that in this connection, in order
t o bring about a settlement of the negot i ations bct v1een
J apRn and the United St '1 t es , it v:ould be necessary fir st
of all t o ef f ect a power ful c::mtr ol ove r t he General
Staff Office of the a rmy . Vnless that wer e done , it
would be d ifficult .
Q In ot he r words , Admirol , do y~u mean t hC? t when
TOJO t ook of~ice a s Pr emier, his position became
ent irely differ ent from hi s pr evious positi ~n when he
wa s merely War ~inister ?
'"' The TOJO who was V!a r Ministe r in the KOf'.!OYE
Cabinet was entir ely on a differ ent position when he
became TOJO, the Prime Mini s t er . ...s Prime Minister,
he must listen t o and coordinat e the opi nions of all
the cabine t mini sters . Furthermor e , as Prime ~~ inister,
he would have mor e frequ E?nt opportunities f or audiences
with His Ma j esty, the Emper or, and the Emper or' s
r epeat ed wishe s f or pe'lce . -- ardent wishes f or peace
would, by their r epetition, impr ess it self up0n the
mind of the Pr ime Minister.
~a es nnd s ~ould be su~zti~uted for t ho
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--- -------wes any instance of survivors of merchant vessels
being machine gunned on t he Indian Ocean, although
I cannot belie ve it, I am expressing my heart-fel t
r egret in the suppos ition tha t such an event .migh t
have occurred. • I am not t alking about your heart-felt
regrets, Admiral. I am asking about your statement
tha t you assumed resp onsibility.
Now, I am asking what occas ions you
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c;.PT •• IN ROBINSON: I think this f inal
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ACTING PRESIDENT: It seems t o us that your
pres·cnt line of que stions is mor e 0r less 2rgument
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Ci.PT,'.IN ROBIPSON : If the Cnurt pl ease , I'd
like t o be he ard for just o moment.
Evidence bef or e the c~urt ~n the Dutch
ship Tjisalak, the British ship Behar, and the
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"7• CHINA INCIDENT.
"The outbreak of the China Incidf)nt in
July 1937 v1as a complete surprise t o me . I had been
in Berlin as Military Attache since the Spring of
1934 and was completely -:>ut of t ouch with the China
problem. I learned by telegrams f~o m the General
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the posit i on of J apan would be r·ndanger ed in the
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from the Gener al Stnff t o r equest the Ge~man army
tha t peace be offe~ed to Chiang-Kai-Shek through
General Falkenhausen who was in Chinn as the military
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the German army a t once . General Keitel, Chief of
OKW , agreed, and he initia t ed some action t o tha t
end. This attemp t at peace did not mntcriDli ze and
had t o be abandoned when the efforts of mediation
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11 8. Hn.:rLER 1 S MEMORANDUM.
"l) The pr osccuti 0n exhibit 489, Himmler 's
mem')r andum, transcript pages 6,026-6,028, says that
Himmler vi si t ed me on 31 J anuary 1939 and talked
\°Ii th me c".:>ncerning counte r - intelligence ac tivities
aga inst s~vi et Russia . But HimmJe r never visited me
nt thnt time . I cann0t r emember see ing him then,
however ha rd t try t o r ef r esh my rnemor y.
"During my t on yen r s 1 st:-y in Germnny, I
had no special rc.llt ti ·ms with Himml e r e i t~er privat ely
'lr officially. Only t wice I r eceived visits fr om
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official . The 0the r ?ccnsi 'ln wo.s in ?'t:i r~h 1941, when
I went t o Ger many as Ambassador for the seci:>nd time ,
and Himmler visited me t o r e t ur n my courtesy call .
"Concerning the ma tters enumer nt ed in this
memorandum 'J f Himml er I should like t o explain a s
follows :
11 2) . In or about June 1937 ·:Jhile I was the
Military Attache my ;)ffi ce in Ber l in began, in acc"rd·
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da te for one of tl' e tv:o pos t s before - - informally
to the Thr one befor e the Prcmior - deslgnnte de cldes
on the personnel of his cabinet , because that nould
gi ve rise t o a political issue . The proper ~11oc edure
is 1hat ofter t he Premior- desi.::;nate has deter".!ined
upon t h~ Na vy Uini s ter antl the War I.1inis ter of his
h :tbinet, then tho preceding Navy ?Sinister Rnd the 1:Va r
Mi nister maka tho 5.nformnl recomtr,ondat ion t o the
'rhrone . That is t he prope r p:i."ocodure .
THE ':",.~ITOP : .Japanese: cou rt reporter .
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KIDO is refe1''·'lr1'} when he s oys i n his diary to the
effect t het t he Pction when he mentions in hid diary
that tho action wos r athol" ove:-..1 ho.sty.
rf'nere a eons t o be sone doubt i,n yot1r mind Vlifu
rega:rd to •1a)dng 5.11.f or maJ. r e c orc·1cndfl tions to the Thr one
of the s ucceodin3 --.rn r f.!inis ter , b ut the p1·ocedure I
have rr:ontioned is custo~ary procedure . There is n~thing
sec:t•ct q'uout it . It is tho customEU'Y ~)roceduro . I
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A (C ontinuing) so os t o c :reate no doubt . The
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relevancy or materiality of any of these matters of
which you desir e the Tribunal to take judic1al notice ,
the prosecution could admi t that they ~re facts , i f
they be facts . You need not worry about judicial notice
under those circuMstances .
MR. BROV'N : Your Honor , let me say fi r s t of
all thst the prosecution does not object to the
tre~~1e~ ~Pfsrred to previously by 1~r . Logan being
ta~en j 111~cial notice of , although we do disput e their
rel0vanc7 tc :his case .
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relevant and material, as it was i n the Nuernberg case ;
by that I mean , as the general conspiracy as it existed
in Germany was i n that cAse . And it is my recollection
that the Tribunal were greatly impressed with the f act
that there w~s no law of conspiracy in Germany , such as
is recognized in Angl o·-American law , in view of t he fact
that none c~ the accused were aware in their own countr y
th~t such a ~aw existed outside aud that they acted
accordinglyo
THB PRESIDENT : They are as sumed to know inter
nE. tional la\·1 as part of their own system.
MR , LOGAN : The defense contention is , of
course~ that there was no such crime of conspiracy under
int. e::-n._>,tiC"na~- law, but Vie don 't have to go i nto that at
th is particular time . But this is a questi on of whether
or not there was such a crime of conspi racy under Japa
nese law which I presume they would i:resume to have
known at the time of the se acts which they Are alleged
to have co1'11'litted .
For that reason, we are asking the Tribunal to
take judic ial notice of that law. I might
THE PRESIDENT : We \'Jill consider that matter,
Mr . Logan .
MR . LOGAN: I might also say that we h~ve
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relevant and material , as it was in the Nuernberg case;
by that I mean, as the genera l conspiracy as it existed
in Germany was in that cAse . And it is my recollecti on
that the Tribunal were greatly impressed with the fact
that there w~s no law of conspiracy in Germany, such as
is recognized in Anglo·-American law, in view of the fact
that none: c~ the accused were aware in their own country
th~ t such ~ ~aw existed outside aud that they acted
accordinglyo
THE PRESIDENT : They are as sumed to know inter
nE.tional lalv as part of their own system.
MR. LOGAN: The defense contention is, of •
course , that there was no such crime of conspiracy under
intern.it:.C'na~. law, but we don ' t have to go i nto that at
this pa~ticular time . But this is a question of whether
or not there was such a crime of conspiracy under Japa
nese law which I presume they would i:resume to have
known at the time of these acts which they Are alleged
to have coUlJ"llitted .
For that reason, we are asking the Tribunal to
take judicial notice of that law. I might --
THE PRESIDENT : We will consider that matter ,
Mr . Logan .
MR . LOGAN: I mifht also say that we h3ve
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davit of the witness to be called until he is in the box
You should decide later whether you want to
cross- exami ne him, after you have heard the answers to
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MR . McMANUS : (Reading cont inued)
"Q Did you attend the Prefec tural Governor s '
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when?
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usual practice , and i t was held in April in Tokyo .
"Q What was the ordinary procedure of t he
Conference when you were the prefectural povernor?
"A The Conference was al ways held at the
official residence of the Prime Minister . The conference
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When IWAMATSU was recalled to the stand on
the 16th of September 1947 , page 28 , 531 of the record,
Mr . Carr commented that the document had not as yet
been produced . The Pres~dent stated "Not to produce
thjs fUrther docu~ent may possibly be to suppress
evid~nce of lRck of credibj lity." The President
further stated on paee 28 , 532 of the record "If his
credibility was questioned by the prosecution, that
document should settle it one way or the other, and it
has not been produced . Now he i s in the box . " ·
I then stated to this Tribunal that the
document would be produced as expediti~usly as
~ossible .
I should like to call to the attention of the
Tribunal that the docu~ent in question, with 16
supplements was submitted to Hr . Brown and Mr . Carr
shortly after the presen tation of ARAKI' s case . And
I am sure at this tjme that 1fr. Brown will tear out
the truth of IWA~ATSU ' s statement concerning this
document .
THE PRESIDENT: Mr . Brown .
MR . BROWN: Your Honor , I should say that
when I heard these last remarks of Vr . McManus, it was
the first i ntimati on I had that tll'is partjcular matter
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subject matter is in effect to permit the prosecution
or others to cross - examine on the scope of new subject
matter , which would be a direct infringement on the
meani ng of the ruling of the Tritunal this morning .
Secondly , to have the accused repeat what
he has stated in his original affi davi t is not new
evidence , but merely reiteration of what he has
prev1~c 3ly stated . To permit such exami nat i on , Mr .
Pre .. ,.,<"> .• .,.. '-. .. ' .... : ... , .. 1 > ' would in effect be to allow the counsel
t o clo s oi:.i7 t :1 ~_ ng throu-:h the good graces of th i s accused
in tak~:·,.- tr1 ..? stand at hjs own request , that he could
not hav~ done before .
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here exposes him to further risk of ~ross -examinat ion ,
which ho is not obliged to take , perha ps .
I think the Court is against you , Mr . Levin .
Captain Robinson .
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THE PRESIDENT: The Pacific is on a list
t . .:,nded to me with Mr . Logan' ~ name alongsice .
MR . BLAKENEY: I helieve, your Honor , that
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MR . BLAKENEY: Such is my understanding ,
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prepared to ~roceed now by taking some witnesses out
of order, because , owing to mechanical diffi cult i es,
we were not able to make ~rrvice until this morning
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THE PRESIDENT: The Pacific is on a list
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MR . BLAKENEY: I helieve, your Honor, that
was the economic part of t he Pacific phase which went
in ye~t crday, if I am not mistaken.
THE PRESIDENT : There is onJy the Russian
pha~e left besides this witness you jus t referred to.
MR . BLAKENEY: Such is my understanding .
And regardjng the Russian p~asP , I can say that I am
prepar ed to ~roceed now by taking some witnesses out
of order, because , owing to mechanical diffi culti es ,
we were not able to make ~rrvice until this morning
in the casP of most of our documents . If , on the
other hand , the Tribunal should see fit to adjourn .i
a quarter of an hour early , I believ~ I can promise a
much more efficient performance on Monday morning .
THE PRESIDFNT : We will adjourn until ha l f -
past nine on Monday morni ng .
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Tr ibunal will t akn judicial not ic<' of it a ~ I ~ub -l
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TW'; PR3~IDENT s If t he Tr ibunal dPCidP~ not
t o act on th~ agr P.PmP.nt , I havp no doubt t h0y will 5
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TH'S PRE~ IDENT : Capt ain Brook~ .
MR . BROOK~ ; I f t he Tr ibunal plPa~P. , I was 14 at t hi -. t . d I di t t h t h d t , mop 1ng , an sabr~0 a~ o P. MP o ~ P.
15 out i n t hi t i i ht t t ~ agr 0PMPn , r P.~Prv ng wy r g o connPn 16
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THE PRESIDENT: The American practic e beforP
militory courts is not substantially different from
the British in this regard . I r efer to Wint hrop' s
Military Law ~nd Precedents , 2nd Edition, Volumes I
end II, page 345.
MR . COMYNS CARR : I understand that the
practice in some other count ries is less strict with
r ega rd to cla ss of evidence admit ted , ~no of course
this Tribunal is not bound by technica l rules .
THE PRESirENT : We .are bound to give a
fair trial and we will not achieve that if we are
gotng to completely disregard these old well- established
r ules based on just ice . I MR . COMYNS CARR : I am not askinr this
Tribunal
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tical tests in a trial of this kind and before an
international tribunal of this kinf are , first of e11:
is the evidence poing to assist the Tribunal to arrive
at & true conclusion ; and secondl~ and most important,
have the ~efense been given a fair opnortunity o~
meeting it. Of course all these points will ari se
on narticular doctiments, but i n view of the generel
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l3 was gl von to the officer for signa ture . As he san that
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thn t as far as thJ.s pa ··ticular point is conce rned it
noods further clarification we sholl withdraw it for the
time being and we will hove it flll cd -- i t oms filled
and tender it as n later time .
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CLERK OF THE COURT: Prosecution document
820-C, nov1 exhibit 3269 for id entific~ ti on only,
will be ma rked PS r eceived in evidence ~nd will
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MR , COMYNS CARR (rf.acHng) s "The Course
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(J pnuery 14, 1938 . Epst Asia Bureau . Spc tion 1.
MATSUDAIRA) .
"WANG KO -MIN rc~ c-ntly put be fore CoJllmander
TERAUCHI e question on the se t hree points ; 11 1 . WhE'thcr or not J ap?.n will give fuJ.1-
scale support to tho new North Chino R~gime ,
11 2. Vlhrther or not it i s J C\ pan ' s intention
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~HE PRESIDENT: Mr . Comyns Carr.
MR . COMYNS CARR: Your Honor , in our submission
this is a very importent document, being the decision
as to peneral principles of national policy immediate
ly efter it was decide~ to have no dealings with Chiang
Kai-r.hek . Apart from the fact that the witness HORIN
OUCHI declined to id~ntify it, he h~d asserted in his
affidavit that he was in a position to tell us all about
HIROTA's opinions, the policy adopted by the governmeQt ,
end so on, end to speek IIIROTA ' s mind to us as well
es if HIROTA w~s speakin1 it himself. In our sub
mission, the feet that he omitted all reference to a
~ecision of this kind r ebuts hi s testimony in the strong
est possible way .
THE PR[SIDENT: The objection is overruled
and the document admitted on the usual terms .
CLtRK OF THE COURT : Prosecution document 8?0-D,
now 0xhibit No . 3270 for identific~tion only, will be
marked as r eceived in evid ence end will retain the same
exhibit number . The certificate of source and ~uthen
ticity, bearing the same document number, will r~ceive
exhibit No . 3270-A.
(Whereupon, ~rosecution exhibit No .
3270, previously mPrkca for identification,
wes r eceivca in evidence , and the certifi-
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of a~thenticity than the prosecution has submitted up to
t i~is time, I respectfully ~ubmit the t it would be a very 2 ser i ous matter to cherfe HIROTA ~ith the implication of 3 this document . 4
THI PRESIDENT : We c1on 1 t want to he~r you, Mr . 5
Carr . The object ' 1n is overruled enc' the document ad-6
mitted on the usual terms, 7
8 CL[RK OF THE COURT: Prosecution document 1841-
9 8B7, now exhibit 3271 f or ic1entificet ion only, will be mP rked as
10 in evidence e nc'l will retain the seme exhibit
number . 11
12 Certificate s~owing source end authenticity ,
bearing the same cocument number , will receive exhibit 13
N0 . 1271-A • 14
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19 3271-A end rece ived in evidence .)
20 THE PRISIDE~T : You mey r ead it after lunch .
2 1 We will adjourn until half-past one.
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of a~thenticity than the prosecut i on has submitted up to
t ibis time, I respectfully RUbmi t thet it would be a very
2 serious matter to Cheree HIROTA ~ith the implication of 3 this document . 4
THE PRESIDENT: We clon't want to he~r you, Mr . 5 Carr . The object'1n is over ruled encl the document ad -6
mitted on the usual terms . 7
8 CL[RK OF THE. COURT: Prosecution document 1841-
8B7 , now exhibit 3271 for 10entif1cat1on only, will be 9
mP rked as in evidence 10
f' nfl will r etain the seme exhibit
number . 11
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beering the same cocument number, will receive exhibit 13
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(Whereupon, prosecution exhibit No . I I
3~71, previously merked for i,dentification, we~
received in evidence, ana the certificate . . thereto was merked prosecution exhibit No .
3271-A end received in evidence.)
THE. PRISIDE~T: You mey read it after lunch .
We will adjourn until half- past one ,
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MR . lfoMANUS : Your Honor , ~ n so far as your
1!cnor has referred t0 t he corr ection Made by Captain
Kraft tris morning , may I just A3k your Honor, or at
least point out t o the Court that the i:ientence in
Japanese c···nccrning this particular sent ence of 6
exhibit 3775-A contain~ a double neg~tive . 7
s THE PRE~IDENT: It is a common form of
9 expre:rnion , gra~matically correct . 'Ve do not mis -
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MR . HcHANUS : But becau!-:e of this, your Honor,
i~ I understand it is v ery difficult t o translate so ,
1, consequently, I ask the Court, just for this one point,
M t o hn.ve it resubmitted t o deter mine vrhe ther this is
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1.n the present tense or the f uture t ense . In vieY1 of
the few s ent ence s befor e it, as it r eads as corrected
b~r the Language Section, your Honor can r eadily see
t h~ t i t dons not ~ake sen~e .
I THE PRES ID ENT: If' Ca ptaln Kraft car es to
r eply to you , Mr. Mc?~anus , he ls at libertv to do so . 21
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}1ffi . ~·fo~NUS : Your Honor , a~l I request is
that it be ~esubMitted to determin~ whether it be in
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LANGUA6E ARBITER (Capt ain K~aft) : Sir , in
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The attacheci. paees are c orre~ted
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th< t thl:rC \"ff S r discussion b<..twccn HJ.RJ.DA rnd KONOYE
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TH:r PRISIDf.NT : You nc(;d not qo cny further
By c· m< jority the ob .1ection is uph\.l d and
the documlnt r ejected .
!~ . COf1YNS Ci.RR : I nt'\'/ off<-.r in cvic~ c:nce IPS
d ocument Jl'.J0-264B, of the 14th of Fcbru~ry 1938 , being
the ~·1 itncss HORil iOPCJi I ' s r.ccount of r. Lie ison ConfE-rence
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mrt t c r to substrntic lly the simc effect wFs rdmittE-d
by tht: Tribunr.l ')n Fridry 1:- st < nc is l-xhibit 3272 but
I dcsir ~ to submit t~is docum~nt to impccch the crGdi t
of th. v;itncss HORINClTCHI who drni r d thrt h£ ever srid
whLt he is s t ctcd hL rc to hc v c s c id .
Tiif Fl:lFSIDFPT: No obj c:ction?
Admitted on the usucl t ~rms .
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tion onlyi t~c c xcc r nt t ' crcfrom , being nros ecution
d ocumc.nt 3150- 264B \\'ill re c c iv( l:Xhibi t No . 3790-/l .
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r,· ~ . 3790 f or idc.nt ificction , the cxc c. r pt
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No . 3790-J.. ~nd rec e i ved in cvid.:ncr . )
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HR . Cm1YNS ~.JlR: (Reeding) "14 Fcbru~ry 1938
"I srw t he Vice ror L i gn ~Unis tc r r t the For C; ign
Binistry <·nd he inqu:i..rcd : 1 rk' VC YOU h e: rd <'bOUt the
Lir ison Conf ~rcncc of Ft bru~ ry 14th? ' Therefore , I
(HlaADA) r coli c.d: 1 -. 1h:-t ~- bout it? ' To this , the
I Vice tiinistor st ~ : t f. d: ' i. t the; LiG is on C 0nf~ rcncc of IO I
l' I\ bru~ r y ·,14, th· :.rmy s< :a ~ "It i s im- ossiblt to c tt~ck
12 Cr nton end H: nkow in thr f utur e .
13 cs the south~rn pert of Shcnsi tn~ up t o t he Yellow
1.£ Rivc·r bHt W(, think it is im~ossiblc t o r.dVDncc: c. s fr r
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to t.d v~nc< i t.s c ir be. s c < s fr·r c s c1 nkin , but the· J~rmy
is srying t h<. t it is impos s ible t o ~o thc t fr r. The
r e< son why they s:y it is imn.ossiblt. to c<rry out mil-
- it:' ry op< r r tions cs f<r : s 1\nkin1:7 lie s in the f,~ ct
thrt militr ry pr cp~ rt tions must br mrd ( r grinst Russia .
:,s r r esult th< N:: vy i s srying : "It is not \/isc. t o
c 0ntinui. c. s ~i .. r r c <nd c..xtcn<ling t:~c incid~mt into
one of long t • rm h0stili ti ... s . On onl h::nd , c c. ssc ti on
of vi~ r should bL t ttcmpt l d through di pl omr tic ID'-nocuvrE s
~nd r t the srm~ t imc , our forc~ s mus t r dv~ ncc ~ithout
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f,1\ . COfoYNS C1.hl. : Your He nc)r -- ..
THE PhES I~EN T : De ycu wi s h t o sr.y Anything ,
Mr . Cnr r?
1 Mh . COAiYNS CiJ\R: Your He. nor , vii t h r e go r d
t o t h0 quc s t i c n e f tho impc rt~ ncc c f t ho matt~r -- •
THE PI1ES I IJEhT : Th:- t i s t he only que s t i on we
wr. nt ~'< u t 0 ~ ddrc s s us cm . ·
l'.m . CGMYNS C,Jih : The; nt: xt documt. nt I nm go ing
t c c·ffor i s pcr h°? ps o bo t t ... r <' nc.:: frc,m thr t p0 i n t of
v i ew e n the s~n~ qu~s t ion bc cnus c it shrus hi s c 0 -
' de f c ndt> nt ITaGoKI D s nr 0s ~ing f or hi s .:ppr in tmcnt, l'nd ~ , -. ,
thnt w~ s put t o r. nd ~ pccific~ lly d e n i ed by UG,~KI . I
think pcrhE.p s I \"i l l wi t hdr r- w this ~ nc ~ nd r r. i sc thu
poi n t on th~ nc.xt one .
I offer i n c v i de.nee I PS dc .. c uMc nt 3 150-2781~
r ... •l r ting t o 16 June 1938 ··nc' t o Pri nc e KOhOYE 1 s c cnvor-I
s~ t i <•n with B? r t' n fu,.h J.IJt. i n wh i ch ho t o l d c f the i n -
s i s t e ncc 0f Wt' r l1d nis t \,r IT;.G,.KI i r. r c c or.uncndi!lg t o
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cif wi t nos s UG,.!<:I cm cr c s s - cx£> Mi nr. tinn o t pngc; 34 , 915
the t nc C'nc oth ~r th~n Princ e K01• OYE h[ld :-ppr on chod him
r c g<: r di ng the r: ppc i n t m .... n t c f SHTh,.TOl<I , ')Od fur th\.. r t u 2~
e ontr cd i ct rlitn \.. ~ S UG,.KI ' s s pecific d 1..nir: l r. t pr: gc
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THE PRESIDENT : We will ad journ until half
pc>st nine tomorr ow morning .
(Wherc:upon , at 1600, an nd j ournment
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is made by Mr. Blewett .
Are all these exhibits for identification
only , Mr . Blewett?
MR. BLE~ETT : Those ar e that group of books
that were put in by Mr . Roberts on Hako-Ichiu. They
are all for identification.
'IEE PRESIDENT : No objection?
MR . HORWITZ s No objection.
THE PRESIDENT : Ordered as prAyed .
Paper 1698 , an application on behalf of the
defense ~~· ,. i;t:, B.i:-ooks
. ...:l. :s~s- ·,rTT : I am repre<.>cnting l\lr . Brooks,
sir . He was unable to be here ti11~ ~n~~ing.
TEI; P.R.SSIDENT : - - for the wi·i;hdrawal of a
number of documents for identification, being exhibit
Nos. 2771- 4 l:-,clusive, 2777 and 2778, 2780 and 2781,
and 2792.
No objection?
MR . HORWITZ: No objection.
THE PRESIDEUT: Ordered as pr ayed .
(Whereupon, at 0904, t he proceeding
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of 1933 end that he hcd no other idea than to settle
the LfrnchuriP.n Incident . This is because he believed
tha t though he remember ed the matter s in 1933, he did
not talk to anyone ~bout what he thought in 1932 . I t
i s clel'r t hr: t he made such an answer as "he did not
remember it for certa in" even though it might have
been adv~ntageous for him .
This document Gndor ses the f act related i n
our defense document No . 2010 or exhibit No . 3166 that
hRAKI began to entertain his idea of proposing a Far
11 }astern peace confer ence from tha t time . Therefore
I 12 if the wj_ tiness hF.d been asked cleC'rly, his memory
...-4 t3 would h<ve b€en refreshed . Ba r on HARADA's Memoir shows -?~
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\'1hether or not Sovie t Russia should be attacked in such
e manner as if a J apan-Soviet war was going t o break
out in t wo years . In r enlity theI\O was no one who
hcd any idea ac tively to ~ttack the Soviet Union in
twQ years as J apan was not in any situation so to
do which is clecrly shown by evidenc e in the genera~
phase . This , we contend, is HARADA's misr epresenta
tion of whot ARAKI sc i d which wos to the eff ect that •
the Soviet Union's ct ti tud c should be wetched f or two
y ears . That is proved from the fact that he plan.ned
to hol d an international conference , as is descritbed
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