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No.2018/E(LR)IA{M 1-5

The General Secretary,

NFIR,

3, Chelmsford Road,

New Delhi - 110 055.

Dear Sir,

Rail Bhawan, New Delhi - 110 001, aated,26.l2.2018

Sub: Minutes of the separate meeting held by AM(Staff) withFederation(NFlR) on25.09.2018 on left over PNI\iVNFIR Items (20 Items)concerning E(NG) Dte.

The minutes of the above meeting is being put up or official website of this Ministryi.e. www.indianrailways.gov.inlrailwayboard/. However, a copy of the Minutes is enclosed

herewith.

Yours faithfully,

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Director, Estt.(IR)

ffiF*DS&9 NATIoNAL FEDERATIoN oF INDIAN MILWAvMEN (N.F.t.R')w

3, Chetmsford Roqd, Neti' DeUi

No. NFIMPNM/ILI Dated:2842/20'18

Copy forwarded to the General Secretaries of af/il.iated Unions of NFIRfor information and necessary action.

ur,u(Dr. M. Roghovoiah)

C/: Media CentrdNFIR.

General

Minutes of the separate meetins held by AM(StafO with Federation(NFlR)on 25.09.2018 on left over PNM/NFIR Items concernine E(NG) Dte.

The follorving officers and representatives of Federation(NFlR) attended the

meetinq:

Official Side Federation(NFIR)

SiShri

Manoj Pande, AM(Staff)Prabhash Kumar, EDE(N)Alok Kumar, EDE(IR)Debashis Mallik, DE(IR)D. Joseph, JDEO{)

M.M. Rai, JDEIN)-II

S/Shri

M. Raghavaiali, Genl. Secy.

R.P. Bhatnagar

B.C. Sharma

30/2011: StagnationRailway - One timeClerks

of staff in Group D posts in Accounts Department on Southernrelaxation for promotion against DR quota vacancies of Accounts

Official Side advised that the Federation's demand for diversion of some existing DR quota

vacancies ofAccounts Clerk for promotion of staffofAccounts department in GP 1800 has

been examined in consultation withAccounts Dte. who have not agreed to the proposal.

Federation(NFlR) pointed out that in Accounts Deptt. the overall promotion quota is 33%o/o

whereas in other departments it is 50%. A uniform procedure should be followed by alldepartments or else quantum relaxation to be extended as demanded in this Item.

Federation also stated that the erstwhile Group 'D' Staff possessing ooGraduate"

qualification are stagnated in the recruitment Grade Pay due to inadequate promotionopportunities not only on Southern Railway but also on other Zones in AccotrntsDepartment. Federation therefore insisted that direct recruitment quota be diverted forproviding promotion opportunity to the posts of Accounts Clerk (Pay Level-2) and theavenue be also modified atpar with other departments. Federation also pointed out that thissubject is pending since over seven years, therefore separate meeting be convened at the

lpvel of FC soon, considering the fact that the career of erstwhile Group 'D' staff got ruineddue to inadequate promotion opportunities.

32/2012: Lack of career growth - Points Man category of Operating Department inthe Railways

Federation(NFlR) pointed that Points Man 'A' belonging to erstwhile <1900 Grade Pay(currently Level 2) are not being permitted, at present to take examination for promotion as

TNC (Level2). It was agreed to examine this aspect.

Federation(NFlR) further mentioned that earlier there was a category of Sr" Points Man(GP <2400) which does not exist anymore in few zones which needs to be examined.

The Federation(NFlR) also mentioned that vide letter No.E(NG)I l20l2lPMlll22 dated

15.07.2015, a proposal for change in staffing pattern in Traffic and CommercialDepartment was given on which they have already submitted their comments. Decision onsub-item 3 should be communicated.

Federation reiterated, that the Board, after consultations with Federations, had finalizedproposal for filling 16%% posts of Commercial Clerks (GP 2000) b5'promotion entirely on

merit of regular employees with 10+2 qualification of all Departments in GP 1800 and GP

1900 with minimum of 3 years service on the basis of a competitive examination. It was

also decided that those with matriculation on the date of issue of these orders will also beeligible. Federation expressed disappointment that orders have not been issued even afterlapse of three years and urged to see that orders are issued immediately.

l8l20l3: Implementation of Apex Court decision - Counting of the service renderedby Commission Bearers/Vendors absorbed in Railways for pensionary benefits - fromthe date of engagement as Commission BearersA/endors, till date of absorption inRailways - Southern Railway.

Federation stated that while Southern Railway implemented the Court direction andaccordingly the applicants have got the benefit thereof, the same should also be applied tosimilar cases of other Zonal Railways.

Official Side advised that the SLP in the Apex Court against the Hon'ble High Court/Madras judgement order dated 30.09.2013 was dismissed on technical ground i.e. delay infiling the SLP, and not on merits. As such, the ordbr is restricted to the applicants only.

Federation while disagreeing with the view of Board stated that a separate communicationwill be sent by the Federation with fulI facts for review.

512014: Technician III posts in Diesel/Electric Loco/EMU Sheds on Indian Railways -increase of promotion quota percentage - reg.

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Federation(NFlR) stated that they have replied Board's correspondence on 17.07.2018which will be looked into.

Federation also insisted upon a separate meeting with MRSA{TR soon.

23/2015: Recruitment policy for induction in Group oC' (erstwhile Group 'D') postsin GP 1800+PB-1 through RRCs-review urged.

The Committee constituted for the purpose is yet to submit its report. Further action shallbe taken based on the recommendations.

Federation expressed its anguish over abnormal delay in mitigating the hardships of femaletrack maintainers and urged the Board to expedite the matter. Federation also requested tomake available, copy of the Committee's report.

38/2015: Granting promotion opportunity as JE against 25Vo IntermediateApprentice quota to those Technicians initially appointed as Technician-Ill oncompassionate ground.

Federation(NFlR) 1vill give their viervs on Board's letter No.E(NG)l l2}lllpW717 dated27.06.20t8.

53l20l5: Incorrecf formation of panel of Shunting Master in PB-l + Gp 24001- onSolapur Division of Central Railwav -

Official Side stated that instructions contained in Board's letter No.E(NG)l l2000lp}/r 214

dated 30.10.2001 have been reviewed as desired by NFIR. These instructions were issuedin consultation with both NFIR and AIRF. The panel in Solapur Division is formed basedon these instructions.

Federation contended that formation of panel of Shunting Master in GP 2400 is done fromamongst Pointsman-A, Leverman and Cabinman forming part in same seniority unit. Assuch, the panel is to be based on seniority position instead of on merit.

Ofiicial Side mentioned that Pointsman, Leverman and Cabinman are Distinct separatecategories within the same department. Even if the posts of teverman and Cabinman arephased out due to modified way of working (Panel working etc.), or these categories aremaintained in a common seniority, the concept ofAVC will not change. In this Cure, ,on.of consideration was also not restricted to 3X. SUR division's notification invitedapplications from three categories viz Leverman, Cabinman and Pointsman 'A'. Thus, ifno Leverman or Cabinman existed, or none applied from any particular category, it wouldnot change the character of the post of Shunting $aster-Il from General post to other thanGeneral post. Thus, the selection has been rightly done in the order of merit, in terms ofACS No.209, para 3 of RBE No.11312009 dated 19.06.2A09 and para 2(C) of RBENo. 1 7/20 1 4 dated 06.A2.2014.

Federation, however, insisted on their demand. It was then clarified by the Official Sidethat at this distant date if the panel is to be revised based on seniority position instead of onmerit, there is every possibility of an empanelled candidate not finding a position or therewill be change of their position in the panel. In either case, this will lead to complicationsincluding litigations. Hence, it will not be desirable to re-visit this issue at this stage.

Federation strongly disagreed with the contention of Official Side that Pointsman,Leverman and Cabinman are distinct categories. Federation also did not agree with theview of Oflicial Side with regard Shunting Jamadar/Shunting Master. Federation urgedripon the Board to consider the changed scenario i.e. single seniority staff deploy"d toperform the duties of different posts and revise the extant policy which becams outdatedfor the purpose of drawing panels in the order of seniority among those cleared selection.Federation also'argued that the extant procedure is also violative of rules and demandedreview.

4/2016: Protection of promotion and8000) promoted to the post of OS-II

seniority of the erstwhile Head Clerks (t5000-(5500-9000) through 20oh LDCE Quota during

the year 2008- SEC Railwav-

Matter sub-judice.

Federation however not appreciated Official Side's version that the "matter sub-judice" and

invited Board's attention to Federation's letter dated 0gl05l20lg wherein facts and merits;Jff il:Jffi .*Tlil1;*;:*X',fi;lh:f ffi:J.o,o,.ui.* a1,pu,. i onare,y, as rrre

It rvas agreed to review.

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Federation stated that the issue relating to relaxation of service condition (minimum 5 yearssen'ice) in the case.of re-employeo o"erence i;;;;;;rsonner for inter-railway transfer on:-ffi1":

as agreed by cRB when the case *u, .*pluined to him. Federarion requested to

official side stated that Federation's letter dated 23.07.201g will be examined.

#Ty":rking as Chaserso Tracers,

Matter is under examination.

;;l:t"""" requested the Board to expedite as rhe pNM Item is pending since the last 2

Status has been asked from diffe rcnt z.onalRailways. Reply from some of the railways hasbeen received' NFIR again..ntionlo thar rhe pr;;;;"r "ieaaCaolwri should be agreed

NFIR also invited-Board's attention to Federation's letter dated 2210g/20lgwherein factswere again highlighted for considering the demand favourably.

tant instructions-

Federation contended that Aptitude Test needs to be delinked from selection process forgiving subsequent chances to^safety category staff.

'It was apprised to the Federation that in terms of provision contained in Board,s letterNo'E(NG)r-2002/PM1/3lvol'Ii ;ilfion i.ioi1,"^f.rron who once fairs in the apritudetest cannot be allowed to re-appear in the aptitudeiest in respect of one and the sameselection/ suitability.test. rrt.tr ii.rro*.,,r..,lroou;..rion to such a person being allowedsubsequent opportylity-to upp"ur'in trr. uptituJ"'i"u in respect of a fresh selection/suitability test held foithe tu* ,*.gory fjr atime gap of 6 months. Extant instructionsalso provide that candidate ^u,y

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;;;'p.io, to aptitude tesr ro make themfamiliar with the content of aptiiude test for increasing pass percentage.

ilffi::lr:ijffiT'f:Tffi:le Federation, it was asreed to consider relaxing the period

t/.35120162 selection for fitling the vacancies of Assistantl) against promotion ILDCE/GDCE euota - aptitude2800 (PB-l).

Station Manager GP 2800 (PB-test for induction as ASM. Gp

Federation contended that Aptitude Test opportunity for each selection i.e. GDCE, LDCEshould be allowed instead denying the right on the pretext that tlie candidate did not clearthe test in the first selection.

It was apprised to the Federation that in terms of provision contained in Board,s letterNo.EQ{G)\-20021PM1131 Vol.II dated 20.03.2007, a person who once fails in the aptitudetest cannot be allowed to re-appear in the aptitude test in respect of one and the sameSelection/Suitability test. There is, howeveq no objection to rurh u person being allowedsubsequent opportunity to appear in the aptitude test in iespect of a freshselection/Suitability test held for the same category after a time gap of 6 months. Extantinstructions also provide that candidate may be called for a Oay prior to aptitude test tomake them familiar with the content of aptitude test for increasing pus p.r..ntage.

However, on the insistence of the Federation, it wasto 3 months instead of 6 months.

agreed to consider relaxing the period

50/20162 Options from staff to serve in Workshop Projects Organization/p atna,Wagon Repair Workshop/Badnera/C. Railway, Coach Midtife RehabilitationWorkshop/Kurnool/S.C. Railway and Wagon Repair WorkshopA/adlapudi/East CoastRailway - Acceptance and implementation-reg. ..

Position explained. Federation also replied vide letter dated 14.09.201g.

(Finalised)

6/20172 Compassionate appointment to the wards of medically decategorised Railwayemployees - Relaxation of extant policy instruclions - requested.

Federation was advised that this matter wasreviewed by the Full Board after the demandnot be agreed to.

decided by the Full Board. It was alsomade by the Federation but the same could

Federation requested separate meeting with Member staff.

18/2017: Regular absorption of Temporary status substitutes on Southern Railway.

Federation requgsted the Board to appreci ate that the Act Apprentices inducted 9 yearsback are continued with Ty. Status, while those recruited later on through RRC etc. gotpromotions to higher grades. Federation urged upon Board to find solution for theirabsorption with retrospective effect as the Higher Court at Madras had upheld theirappointment.

Official side stated that theimatter is sub-judice.

2/2018: Setting up of Question Bank for holding selections for promotion to the postof Junior Engineer, Pay Levet 6 in the Mechanical & Electrical and other Technical

Departments-reg.

Matter is under examination in consultation u'ith the Zonal Railways.

l9l20l8: Staff Nurse vacancies in Indian Railways - Amendment to extant provisionfacilitating selection of serving employees who possess qualification-reg.

Federation stated that in the case of Pharmacist category, provision exists for servingemployees possessing qualification to be considered first and requested that the saidprovision be made applicable for filling staff nurse vacancies by those staff possessingqualifi cation prescribed.

Meeting to be fixed with DG(Pers.)

2ll20l8: Filling the vacancies of Chief Loco Inspectors - Review of extant policyfacilitating lirst opportunity to Senior Loco Pilots (Mail/Express)-reg.

Federation stated that it has discussed the subject withAlWStaff, MTR, CRB and explainedthe necessity to review. Therefore, the issue needs to be re-visited in the overall interest ofRailways and staff.

Official Side stated that in case of promotion to the post of Loco Inspectors, the candidatesare called from different categories i.e. Mail/Express Drivers, Passenger Drivers, GoodsDrivers from the same department and therefole satisfies the definition of the terms'General Posts'. The promotion to the post of Loco Inspector is, therefore, done as per theprocedure in vogue for general posts as laid down in Board's letter dated 19.06.2009.

22/2018t Absorption of Staff working in Quasi Administrative Units/ Officeserstwhile Group'D'

Federation wanted the Railway Board to appreciate that the staff of Quasi AdministrativeUnitsi Offices are not outsiders as in terms of IREM provisions, they are granted facilities.The head of the Administration (JA Grade Officer) is the controlling officer of QuasiAdministrative Units/ Offices staff working in the Railway Institutes, Co-operative Storesetc. Federation also invited Railway Board's attention to the points highlighted by NFIRthrough its letter dated 0610212016 & llll2l20l7. Federation also requested to takegxpeditious action for granting approval for screening and absorption of those QuasiAdministrative Units Staffwho are on rolls as on date.

Official side stated that joint letter of Federations has been received which will be put up.

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