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Transcript of His Honour Judge Peter Smithwick For the Tribunal
A P P E A R A N C E S
The Sole Member: His Honour Judge Peter Smithwick
For the Tribunal: Mrs. Mary Laverty, SCMr. Justin Dillon, SCMr. Dara Hayes, BLMr. Fintan Valentine, BL
Instructed by: Jane McKevitt
Solicitor
For the Commissioner of An Garda Siochana: Mr. Diarmuid McGuinness, SC
Mr. Michael Durack, SCMr. Gareth Baker, BL
Instructed by: Mary CumminsCSSO
For Owen Corrigan: Mr. Jim O'Callaghan, SCMr. Darren Lehane, BL
Instructed by: Fintan Lawlor Lawlor Partners Solicitors
For Leo Colton: Mr. Paul Callan, SCMr. Eamon Coffey, BL
Instructed by: Dermot Lavery Solicitors
For Finbarr Hickey: Fionnuala O'Sullivan, BL
Instructed by: James MacGuill & Co.
For the Attorney General: Ms. Nuala Butler, SCMr. Douglas Clarke, SC
Instructed by: CSSO
For Freddie Scappaticci: Niall Mooney, BL
Instructed by: Michael FlaniganSolicitor
For Kevin Fulton: Mr. Michael O'Higgins, SC
Instructed by: John McAtamneySolicitor
For Breen Family: Mr. John McBurney
For Buchanan Family/Heather Currie: Ernie Waterworth
McCartan Turkington BreenSolicitors
NOTICE: A WORD INDEX IS PROVIDED AT THE BACK OF THIS TRANSCRIPT. THIS IS A USEFUL INDEXING SYSTEM, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO QUICKLY SEE THE WORDS USED IN THE TRANSCRIPT, WHERE THEY OCCUR AND HOW OFTEN.
EXAMPLE: - DOYLE [2] 30:28 45:17
THE WORD “DOYLE” OCCURS TWICEPAGE 30, LINE 28PAGE 45, LINE 17
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JOHN NOLAN
EXAMINED BY MR. DILLON 2 1
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. McGUINNESS 49 18
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. O'CALLAGHAN 57 6
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. ROBINSON 69 7
RE-EXAMINED BY MR. DILLON 77 12
WITNESS 27
EXAMINED BY MR. VALENTINE 87 1
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. McGUINNESS 128 14
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. O'CALLAGHAN 139 14
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. ROBINSON 148 28
RE-EXAMINED BY MR. VALENTINE 152 22
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THE TRIBUNAL RESUMED ON THE 8TH SEPTEMBER, 2011, AS
FOLLOWS:
MR. DILLON: Chairman, we have a witness for you this
morning, two witnesses indeed for you this morning, but I
understood that you had in mind possibly making a ruling
this morning. Are you in a position to do that?
CHAIRMAN: I am not quite in a position to. I have some
more reading to do on the subject, which I propose to
finish up during lunch hour and give my ruling at two
o'clock, if that's all right, if you have no objection?
Well, is that all right with you, Mr. Durack?
MR. DURACK: Yes.
MR. DILLON: You'll give your ruling, I suppose, when you
are ready. That said, I will now call Mr. John Nolan.
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JOHN NOLAN, HAVING BEEN SWORN, WAS EXAMINED BY MR. DILLON
AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. DILLON: Now, Mr. Nolan, on the last occasion that you 1
were here before the Chairman, you gave him evidence in
relation to general matters in relation to your duties in
Dundalk Station and matters that you had to deal with after
your arrival, which I think was in November of 1988, is
that right?
A. Well, I arrived in Dundalk in May 1988.
Q. Is it May, I beg your pardon, that was my mistake. Now, 2
before you went to Dundalk in May, where had you been
assigned?
A. I was Chief Superintendent in 'B' Branch, as it was known
as then, it was the personnel branch, I think it has
subsequently changed title, but it was to deal with
discipline, complaints, transfers, promotions and so forth.
Q. Indeed. Is it the case that when you went to Dundalk you 3
had some knowledge of matters that you were going to have
to deal with, in particular in relation to Mr. Owen
Corrigan?
A. Not specifically in relation to Corrigan, but perhaps there
was more emphasis on what was happening on the border than
to do with the local personnel, but I was aware of him,
yes, certainly.
Q. Now, you remember one of your colleagues was there, 4
Detective Superintendent Tom Connolly?
A. Yes, he came to Dundalk. He replaced Superintendent
Culhane in early 1989.
Q. Now, he has given evidence to the Chairman to the effect 5
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that prior to his going to Dundalk, there was a sense that
there was sort of a cloud, if I can put it that way,
hanging over Dundalk Station, a cloud in terms of a
particular individual. Were you aware of such a view or a
mood?
A. Not really. If there was a cloud, it was a very mild
cloud. I certainly wasn't aware of anything serious.
Q. Now, when you were in Dundalk, I think you had two members 6
there, one was Leo Colton?
A. Yes.
Q. What sort of dealings did you have with Mr. Colton? 7
A. Practically none. Sergeant Colton was a uniformed Sergeant
in one of the units, there were four uniformed units
operating out of the station, he would have been one of the
Sergeants on a unit doing shift work. I had very little
reason to have any dealings with him. In fact, I don't
think I had any dealings unless I met him maybe on the
occasion of an inspection or walking through the station or
outside the station or something.
Q. In relation to another member, who is Mr. Finbarr Hickey, 8
did you have any dealings with him?
A. Beyond the fact that he was there and I was aware that he
was there, I was aware because his father -- I knew his
father.
Q. His father was in the Force as well? 9
A. Yes, he was, yes.
Q. I think he was based in Athlone at the time? 10
A. That's right.
Q. We must now turn to Mr. Corrigan. 11
A. Yes.
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Q. And I think it is the case that you took certain steps 12
culminating in Mr. Corrigan's transfer from Dundalk to the
Special Detective Unit, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, we'll deal with those in particular in due course. 13
But the overall thrust of what you have to tell the
Chairman deals with that particular momentum of events
leading to Mr. Corrigan's transfer to the SDU, isn't that
right?
A. Yes.
Q. And just to complete that, my understanding is that that 14
transfer actually never took place in any physical sense.
While it might have been ordered, it actually didn't take
place?
A. He took several steps to frustrate it and eventually he
succeeded, I think, by retiring.
Q. Yes. Now, when you were in Dundalk, what sort of relations 15
did you have or what sort dealings did you have with
Mr. Corrigan?
A. Well, in the early stages I knew of him and I knew he had a
good reputation and had done very valuable work in relation
to obtaining information and good intelligence and,
generally, he had a good reputation both as a Detective
Guard and as a Detective Sergeant. And I met all of the
detectives when I arrived in Dundalk, had interviews with
them, just to get to know them and see what they were doing
and generally have an idea of what their views were on what
was happening in Dundalk, and I met Corrigan on two
occasions, and initially we had a good enough working
relationship. I had very little dealings with him,
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Chairman, but certainly I could say I was on good terms
with him.
Q. How did he view you, do you think? 16
A. Sorry?
Q. How did he view you? 17
A. Well, I would say he may have been a little bit wary of me.
He didn't know me and maybe with my background, he might
have been a little bit cautious as to how he should deal
with me.
Q. I think in the beginning, Mr. Corrigan was the sole 18
Detective Sergeant in Dundalk Station, and that force was
beefed up, the detective side was beefed up, isn't that
right, following the Anglo Irish Agreement?
A. That's right. In the early part of the border campaign, as
we call it, he was the only Detective Sergeant in Dundalk,
and he would have had a small number of detectives with
him, but as events happened, the numbers were increased; a
substantial number of Detective Sergeants and Detective
Inspector, Detective Superintendent.
Q. I think his immediate superior was Detective Inspector 19
Prenty, Dan Prenty, isn't that right?
A. That's correct.
Q. And do you know how they got on? 20
A. Not very well.
Q. You mean they didn't get on very well or you didn't know? 21
A. Oh, I knew that they didn't get on very well.
Q. Okay. We'll let the two gentlemen deal with that when they 22
give evidence. I think that following your arrival in
Dundalk, while it was the case that Mr. Corrigan
undoubtedly did sterling work for the police force and for
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the State, I think you had a concern that he was -- his
productivity, if I can put it that way, was falling off, is
that right?
A. That's right. I hadn't received any information from him,
and I wasn't aware that he was doing anything of any great
importance, and I had received reports from his
Superintendent concerning him and his activities and
suspected activities.
Q. We'll come to that in a second. Now, is it possible that 23
Mr. Corrigan was in fact conveying whatever information he
had directly to Garda Headquarters rather than through the
station?
A. At that time I doubt very much if he was doing that, but I
had reason to believe that in the past he often went
directly to Headquarters with information, but I had no
reason to think that he was doing that during my time.
Q. Now, you mentioned there a report you got from your 24
Superintendent, that was Tom Connolly, isn't that right?
A. Yes, that would have been in early 1989, February '89.
Q. Yes, and Mr. Connolly has already told the Judge about his 25
report, so that's in evidence at this stage. Now, I
wonder, Mr. Mills, could you put up the first document,
please? Could I ask you to go through a number of reports
that you wrote at the time relating to Mr. Corrigan. And
the first one we come across - they are taken in date
order, I might add, which might assist you - is the 16th
February, 1989.
A. Yes.
Q. And it's a report in which you detail unauthorised use of 26
official cars, altering official records, failing to report
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damage, suspected involvement in smuggling, and it refers
to Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan. Now, Chairman, we
will focus on those matters which are of direct relevance
to your terms of reference, matters such as damage to the
patrol car is not really directly relevant to your terms of
reference, but we'll focus on the other matters.
Now, what was the background to that report? How did it
come about that you wrote it?
A. Prior to getting that report in writing, I had been told by
Detective Superintendent Connolly that, or indeed by
Superintendent Culhane before him, that there was a history
of unauthorised use of official cars allocated to Detective
Branch in Dundalk. In other words, that cars were not
always available when they should have been. They were
taken out and not accounted for; mileage was not recorded
in logbooks and so forth. I issued a directive to
Detective Branch that -- pointing out the procedures that
should be followed and pointing out the consequences of the
unauthorised use of cars. That was noted in writing by all
members of Detective Branch, including Detective Sergeant
Corrigan.
Q. Now, you sent your report to the Assistant Commissioner, 27
who was Mr. Ned O'Dea at the time, isn't that right?
A. That's correct.
Q. And he was in charge of Crime and Security, so your 28
reporting was to Crime and Security and not to Personnel.
Is there any reason for that?
A. That's right. Well, we were dealing with a member of the
Detective Branch and the Detective Branch is responsible,
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or they are supervised overall and appointed by Crime and
Security, so it was the Assistant Commissioner. At that
point, he was merely using that report to inform Assistant
Commissioner O'Dea of Crime and Security of this officer
and what he was doing and what we suspected him of doing
and sort of putting him on notice of what I wanted to do
with him eventually.
Q. Now, we'll go through it. So it begins with the following: 29
"The attached report and copies of documents received from
Detective Superintendent Thomas Connolly, Dundalk, are
forwarded for your information."
I'll stop there for a moment. That was the report you
received from Tom Connolly, isn't that right?
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Q. Which has already gone into evidence. 30
Now, you also mention a "Report from Chief Superintendent,
Drogheda, dated the 12th of October, 1987, which refers to
the allegation that Sergeant Corrigan was to be named in an
RTE television programme as being involved in smuggling
activities along the border."
Now, is it the case that that is -- that the file in
question is your source of information about the
possibility of this programme or did you have other sources
of information?
A. I don't know why I referred to that file or, indeed, if
that file accompanied my report, because that all occurred
before I arrived there. As you will note, it is in October
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Q. That's right, yeah. 31
A. So that -- I knew very little about that. I think it was
just by way of reference to what had happened in the
immediate time before I arrived there.
Q. Now, just one last matter on this question of the RTE 32
programme. Do you remember Vincent Rowan? I think he was
a Sergeant at the time in your station?
A. Yes.
Q. Did he ever speak to you about your late colleague, Pat 33
Culhane, approaching RTE in the matter of this alleged
programme?
A. I have no recollection of that happening, no.
Q. Very well. Now, you go on to say: "Shortly after my 34
appointment to Dundalk I became aware that cars allocated
to the Detective Branch at Dundalk were frequently missing
when required for duty and could not be accounted for.
Cars were often returned to the station precincts showing
mileage figures which were not recorded in the logbooks. I
issued a directive to all members attached to the station
pointing out the consequences of unauthorised use of
official vehicles."
And that's attached. I haven't put that before you,
Chairman.
"This was noted in writing by all members of the Detective
Branch, including Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan.
"I was aware that Detective Sergeant Corrigan was the
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member suspected for using cars and that he had them for
his private use, although when challenged by his superiors
he said he was on official business meeting subversive
contacts. I had received two unsubstantiated reports
linking Sergeant Corrigan with smuggling activities in his
area, but I am not, however, prepared to elaborate on these
as I have no positive proof that he is so involved. I know
that civilians of my acquaintance in Dundalk believe he is
actively engaged in smuggling and this is a view shared by
a considerable number of members here."
Now, just pause there for a second. When you refer to
smuggling, first of all you make it quite clear that these
are matters which you have overheard or heard of but you
don't have any positive proof, that's an important point to
stress, that you didn't have any positive proof of that
matter?
A. No.
Q. Did you ever acquire positive proof subsequent to this 35
report?
A. No.
Q. Now, when you talk about smuggling, is it the case that you 36
are talking about, let's say, bringing a television set
over or something on a larger scale?
A. Well, that is it, I was often given that thought, of what
exactly was he smuggling, and the rumour was that he was
involved in cars. Now, whether it was smuggling cars or
car sales or whatever, but smuggling, as you know, can
cover many areas, and it was mostly one way, from the North
to the South, and if items were to be smuggled in vast
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quantities, one would require transport and associates and
safe houses and so forth, so it was quite a big --
smuggling in that area was very organised and done on a
grand scale at that time.
Q. When you say "organised", I think it's now pretty clear, it 37
was done on an organised scale by subversives, isn't that
right?
A. Yes, mostly subversives.
Q. So, can you tell the Chairman whether if, as an individual, 38
not a member of a subversive organisation, you wished to
engage in smuggling, what dealings do you think you have to
have with subversives in order to be able to carry on that
business?
A. I imagine you would have to have a lot of dealings and
certainly you would have to have it cleared by those who
controlled the border, especially in South Armagh, and that
was the Provisional IRA. And their own remit, I think,
would have extended slightly over the border into the
south. Although not to the same extent.
Q. Very well. Now, you go on to say: "Sergeant Corrigan was 39
appointed to the Force on the 7th September, 1960, and to
Detective Branch on the 23rd June, 1964. He has served in
Drogheda and Dundalk as a Detective Guard and at Union Quay
briefly in 1975 as a Detective Sergeant before coming to
Dundalk on the 17th June, 1975, where he has served since.
He is a very shrewd and experienced detective who has
managed to keep on the right side of his superiors down
through the years when there was more than a suspicion that
he may have been involved in doubtful extracurricular
activities. He undoubtedly has good contacts and sources
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of information in subversive groups in this area and these
have proved useful and valuable in the past. However,
since my arrival here I have not received any information
from him which I regarded as valuable. I am sceptical of
much of it because it falls into what I call 'after the
event' information."
Now, just pause there again for a second. Your assessment
of Mr. Corrigan is that he is somebody who has managed to
keep on the right side of his superiors. I think that's a
view that you formed and maintained throughout your
dealings with Mr. Corrigan?
A. Yes, well that wouldn't be unique to Mr. Corrigan of
course.
Q. Understandably, but it does relate to Mr. Corrigan, 40
nonetheless?
A. Yes, it does.
Q. And I think the Chairman will find that later on in further 41
correspondence you reiterate that point of view. That was
your view throughout?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, then you refer to the fact that his, as I put it to 42
you earlier on, his productivity appears to have tailed
off, is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. How did you notice that, as a matter of interest? How did 43
that come to your attention?
A. Well, I wasn't receiving any information or reports from
him and he wasn't getting involved -- as you know, there
were day-to-day occurrences, incidents on the border, and
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he never seemed to get involved in them, he was never
there.
Q. If he wasn't there, do you know where he might have been? 44
A. No. Well, then --
Q. Could he have been in the office, for example? 45
A. He could have been anywhere literally when he was on duty.
They do have a lot of flexibility as regards where they
would go and what they would be doing, and you wouldn't
question it because the answer would always, or could
always be well they were meeting contacts or they were on
surveillance or something like that, so you left them to
their own devices really.
Q. But presumably if there had been meetings with contacts or 46
surveillance, that would have yielded intelligence?
A. It should have.
Q. And yet you tell the Chairman that the intelligence supply 47
had dried up in terms of Owen Corrigan?
A. As far as he was concerned, yes.
Q. Now, you go on to say: "I would be prepared to allow a 48
member of Sergeant Corrigan's experience a certain amount
of flexibility regarding accountability, provided he did
not abuse such concessions. Indeed, I can say that I have
been more than generous to him in this regard since I came
here and we have a very good working relationship. Because
of his spare time activities a stage has now been reached
where I feel his valuable as a member on Special Detective
duties in this sensitive area must be weighed against the
adverse effect his conduct is having on morale and
discipline generally. I have considered his good work in
the subversive area, especially in the difficult years in
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the 1970s when he was the only Detective Sergeant in
Dundalk. And taking everything into consideration I now
feel that a decision regarding his future in Detective
Branch in the border area must now be made."
Now, this was a view that you had formed approximately
maybe a year after you'd arrived in the station, is that
right?
A. Give or take, yeah.
Q. So, clearly there are matters that had come to your 49
attention in the meantime which brought you to this point?
A. Yes.
Q. And indeed, you acknowledge the good work he did in the 50
1970s, and I think the 1970s were a particularly difficult
time for members of the Force?
A. Yes, I was there myself as an Inspector for a while then.
Q. You were a uniform Inspector, is that right? 51
A. Yes, I was transferred from Cork.
Q. Did you have any dealings with Mr. Corrigan at that time? 52
A. Sorry?
Q. Did you have any dealings with Mr. Corrigan at that time? 53
A. Not very much, but I knew he was a good officer at the time
and he was doing his work well. There was no complaints.
Q. His reputation was good at the time? 54
A. Yes, it was.
Q. His star was riding high in the sky, so to speak? 55
A. Yes.
Q. Very good. Then you deal with some of his sort of 56
technical matters relating to Detective Sergeant Corrigan.
And then in the last paragraph you say: "I have appointed
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an investigating officer under the provisions of the Garda
Siochana (Discipline) Regulations, 1971, to investigate the
irregularities disclosed in Detective Superintendent's
Connolly's report. This investigation and subsequent
inquiry, if any, will inevitably take some time to conclude
and raises the question of the propriety of allowing him to
continue to serve here while he is under investigation."
So, in essence, you raise the question and handed it over
to Crime and Security in Dublin, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Because you considered they were the appropriate people to 57
deal with it?
A. I couldn't transfer him.
Q. Could you explain that? How is it that you, as the Chief 58
Superintendent --
A. Members of Detective Branch -- a Chief Superintendent can
transfer members of the uniform force up to the rank of
Sergeant within his own division. Members of Detective
Branch could only be transferred by Crime and Security
Branch.
Q. So, hence you'd leave the decision up to Crime and 59
Security?
A. I was telling them what the position was and expecting them
to effect the transfer.
Q. Now, the next report you wrote, again to Assistant 60
Commissioner O'Dea, is dated 24th February, 1989. Now, in
the meantime, it seems that you received a response from
the Assistant Commissioner, and that will be dealt with
when the Assistant Commissioner is called back to give
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further evidence of his dealings in this matter.
So, you refer to his minute of the 22nd February in
connection to the matters that you had discussed in your
earlier report. And you wish to say that: "I have not
discussed this matter with Detective Sergeant Corrigan, as
to do so would be imprudent in view of the fact that I, as
appointing officer under the provisions of the Garda
Siochana (Discipline) Regulations have appointed an
investigating officer to investigate the various matters
referred to in Detective Superintendent Connolly's report."
So, it's clear from that that the Assistant Commissioner
asked you to raise with Mr. Corrigan your concerns, but you
took the view that it would not be appropriate, simply
because, or largely because you had instigated the
disciplinary proceedings?
A. Yes.
Q. And I think that once the disciplinary proceedings are 61
instigated, you then, in a sense, withdraw from the fray,
is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. You leave it to the inquiry to --62
A. Ultimately the file, the investigation file would come to
me and I would have to decide what charges to prefer.
Q. Yes, and we see that you did in -- I think there were two 63
inquiries that you were --
A. Yes. Well, I notice that we are talking about the 1971
regulations there. I think laterally they were replaced by
new regulations in 1989, so I think the later investigation
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was under the new regulations.
Q. Okay. Now, you go on to say: "If I were to discuss any of 64
these matters with Sergeant Corrigan it could be construed
as being prejudicial to him in any subsequent disciplinary
proceedings where I ultimately will have to decide what
charge, if any, should be preferred against him. He will,
of course, be aware of the various matters when the notice
under Regulation 9 of the Garda Siochana (Discipline)
Regulations, 1971, is served on him by the investigating
officer, Superintendent Patrick Tierney."
Now, it follows from that that you had appointed one of
your Superintendents, a uniformed Superintendent, to
investigate the matter?
A. Yes.
Q. He was -- was he then the presenting officer, is that the 65
correct term?
A. I'm not -- the presenting officer, I think that was only
provided for under the later regulations, the '89
regulations.
Q. I understand you now. There was a new concept when the '89 66
regulations came in?
A. Yes.
Q. Very good. You go on to say: "Neither do I feel it is 67
proper that I should at this time inform him of my
recommendations concerning his future employment on
detective duties. I am aware of the circumstances which
arose some years ago..." and then you a deal with a
particular case involving another guard, and that seems to
have informed your view that it was preferable not to
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discuss matters with Mr. Corrigan. And you go on then on
the second page:
"In the case of Sergeant Corrigan, I have not recommended
that he be reverted from detective duties. I have,
however, placed a question-mark on his suitability for
continued employment on detective duties in the border area
because of the nature of the allegations against him of
smuggling. If he were to be reverted to ordinary duties
and reasons given to him for this course, it would be
difficult to sustain them if this arose because there is no
positive evidence that he is engaged in the activities
alleged but merely a suspicion, albeit a very strong one.
A transfer in the interests of the service to a centre well
away from the border may be the best way to deal with him.
In the event of an appeal by him to the review body, the
reasons for transfer could be given here in circumstances
where the interests of the service could be better
protected."
Now, again, you do stress, and the matter has to be
stressed to the Chairman, that you were acting on -- your
concerns were grounded on strong concerns that had been
expressed to you but you did not have any positive proof of
smuggling activities by Mr. Corrigan?
A. That's correct, Chairman.
Q. Now, the next document I wish to put before you is a 68
document written by Detective Sergeant Corrigan. Now, it
seems that the decision was taken to transfer the Detective
Sergeant away from Dundalk, as I understand it, to the SDU,
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the Special Detective Unit?
A. The Special Detective Unit in Harcourt Square.
Q. How did that come about? 69
A. I think the two reports you have produced there sort of sow
the seed, and they went along with what I had recommended,
that he be removed from the border. The choice of station
was left to them. And the obvious place would have been
SDU, taking into consideration the distance from Dublin and
the fact --
Q. Yes. Then is the decision to effect the transfer, that's 70
notified to the member, is it?
A. It is.
Q. Is that by way of a minute or a letter? 71
A. There is a form and a number on it, I just cannot think of
it have now, it's --
Q. It was a standard form? 72
A. There is a form with a number and it's filled in, "You are
hereby directed to transfer" from such a station to such a
station on such a date and to report to that station.
Q. Now, Chairman, before the next document goes up, I should 73
say it is a letter from Mr. Corrigan. There are matters
which are personal to Mr. Corrigan and his family and they
have been blacked out.
Now -- sorry, Chairman, I have made a mistake in terms of
the documents I gave to Mr. Mills. Because there are
matters which are personal to Mr. Corrigan and his family,
I don't propose putting the document up on the screen. My
copy hasn't got them blacked out, but I can convey the gist
of what Mr. Corrigan had to say. That he wished to lodge
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an appeal against the transfer which is scheduled to take
place on the 5th May, 1989. And he sets out his grounds of
appeal, which are grounded in family circumstances. The
fact that he owns his own house which he built in 1976.
Also the fact that a transfer would be -- would
detrimentally affect his wife's health. He details the
treatment she is receiving, and I think there is no
argument but that she was an unwell lady, unfortunately,
isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Then he goes on to detail his time at Dundalk, and then he 74
goes on to say: "From the date of my appointment as a
Detective Sergeant in Dundalk from the 17th June, 1975, I
was Member in Charge of the Detective Branch during the
most turbulent years of the current troubles in the border.
During the period in question the incidents of shootings,
murders, hijacking, armed robberies were the highest, as
the statistics will confirm."
I don't think there is any particular dispute about that?
A. No.
Q. "These allied to the number of subversives from all over 75
the 32 counties who visited Dundalk and most of whom were
arrested at various times and taken to Dundalk, all this
duty being particularly arduous, lengthy and dangerous
nature, adding to the difficulties was of course the fact
that the total strength of the Detective Branch was
one-quarter of the current strength of the unit. During
the period in question I had been involved in the most
important investigations carried out in Louth/Meath
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division, having assisted members of the Technical Bureau
on such investigations. I have given evidence at the
Special Criminal Court as often as any member currently
serving on the Force. I have been commended by the judges
of that court and I have been commended by my own
authorities at Commission, Divisional and District Office
level."
I can tell you, the Chairman has heard letters of
recommendation written by senior officers in Garda
Headquarters, principally, in support of Mr. Corrigan and
Mr. Corrigan's career.
"In my period as a Member in Charge of the Detective Branch
I served under a total of 13 Superintendents and three
Chief Superintendents in Drogheda and enjoyed an excellent
working relationship with them, as I did with my
subordinates, who were extremely efficient, dedicated
members, who like myself received little for their efforts
over all those difficult years. Never once during the
period set out by me had my immediate superiors ever on one
occasion to rebuke or censure me for any indiscretion at
any time."
Now, is that correct, to your knowledge?
A. I really couldn't speak for the time before I went there.
Q. Certainly you didn't share that view, quite clearly. You 76
felt there were matters that he had to account for?
A. I knew his history, and I knew his recent history, and my
judgement was based more or less on his recent history.
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Q. Yes. And then he goes on to say -- another important 77
sentence I should read. "Never once during the same period
was a single report of ill-treatment of prisoners at a time
when such complaints were widespread throughout the
country. As a result of activities and supervision of
subversives I and my family have been the subject of abuse,
threats and intimidation from members of subversive
organisations."
Are you aware of that?
A. Yes.
Q. That did happen, isn't that right? 78
A. It did.
Q. I think there were certain flash points which were 79
particularly difficult for Mr. Corrigan, such as
extraditions, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, then he goes on to say that on the 7th March he was 80
served with a notice under the discipline regulations
informing him that the matter would be investigated. And
that on the 21st April, 1989, he was informed of his
transfer. And on seeking an explanation for same was
informed that the matter under investigation had been
reported to Headquarters, who then made the decision to
order the transfer. "I now wish to appeal my transfer on
the grounds set out by me above."
So that was a letter sent in to, indeed to the -- well to
the Detective Superintendent at the time, who presumably
was Tom Connolly?
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A. Yes.
Q. In 1989. Now, the next document: It's an undated, 81
certainly in my copy, it was produced by you, and you
address it now to the Deputy Commissioner of Operations.
Now, initially your correspondence was directed to Crime
and Security. Is there any particular reason why you then
directed your correspondence to the Operations section?
A. I can't recall this particular report, so this is all fresh
to me.
Q. Okay. Well, then, I'll read through it and then as I am 82
reading through it, the answer may occur to you?
A. It may come back to me.
Q. Exactly, yes. You are dealing with the "Appeal against 83
permanent transfer from Dundalk to SDU Harcourt Square,
Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan, Dundalk Station."
Now, before I open the letter, it seems from the very first
sentence that Mr. Corrigan's correspondence raised queries
at Headquarters level which you had to deal with, because
he begins: "With reference to queries raised by the
Commissioner concerning the member's appeal against
transfer, I attach a report from Superintendent Patrick
Tierney, Dundalk. The member's superior, Detective
Superintendent Thomas Connolly, is absent on annual leave
at present. I am aware, however, that there is nothing
additional he can add concerning the matter to what he has
already said.
"I give hereunder my own comments on the points raised:-
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"What Sergeant Corrigan has said concerning his family and
their schooling is correct. He owns his own house as
stated and is reported by others to own property or houses
in Dundalk and Drogheda.
"There is no record available here at this time to show if
Sergeant Corrigan's immediate superiors ever had occasion
to rebuke our censure him. That is not to say, however,
that his conduct throughout his service did not merit this
action. As I have said in my original report, Sergeant
Corrigan is a shrewd and experienced detective who always
managed to stay on the right side of his superiors. I have
no doubt that his relationship with senior officer was
cultivated to an extent that many of those officers did not
always take the proper course of action when they became
aware of his indiscretions. Also, most of all, the
Superintendents here were birds of passage and I believe
may have been inclined to ignore Sergeant Corrigan's
indiscretions in favour of his undoubteded valuable
contacts and sources of information."
If I just pause there for a second. I think you are making
the point there that Mr. Corrigan was in the station pretty
well all his career?
A. Yes.
Q. Give or take one or two spells in Drogheda and down in 84
Cork. So, he was a permanent member of the station whereas
his superiors came and went?
A. Yes.
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can be the case that you move around quite a lot from
station to station?
A. Yes.
Q. So your concern was that because a particular superior 86
officer hadn't been in place for any considerable, or any
appreciable period of time, he wasn't in a position to deal
with Sergeant Corrigan?
A. Yes. Could I say, I think that report may have been
requested by the Deputy Commissioner of Operations. As you
said earlier, why did I communicate with the Deputy
Commissioner rather than the Assistant Commissioner? I
imagine now it was because the correspondence came back
from the Deputy Commissioner.
Q. Very good. Now, "Sergeant Corrigan's immediate superior is 87
Detective Inspector D Prenty and there is a long history of
hostility between them. He has made me aware of an
incident on the 2/9/1987 where Sergeant Corrigan did not
enter mileage in the official logbook and on the 9/8/1989
where he did not report off duty in connection with a
commemoration parade in Dundalk, and it subsequently
transpired that he was in County Cavan at an unveiling
ceremony for the late Sergeant Paddy Morrissey."
Can you tell us, if you know, who was the late Sergeant
Paddy Morrissey?
A. Sergeant Morrissey was a Sergeant up on a station. I knew
Sergeant Morrissey, in fact I was his boss when he was a
Sergeant in the Sub Aqua Unit, but he was appointed to
Sergeant to a station up, I think, in the Sligo/Leitrim
area and he was shot while pursuing two bank robbers.
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Q. And I think it seems now from what you have just said that 88
there was a ceremony to commemorate his life?
A. Yes.
Q. And possibly was there a statue or a plaque or something, 89
are you aware of this?
A. Yes, I would have been aware of that, yeah.
Q. Then you go on to say that he "...used official transport 90
to travel North to the ceremony even though he had not been
authorised to use official transport to travel outside the
division.
"There does not appear to have been any follow through in
these cases. He was directed on a permanent transfer to
SDU in 1978 as a result of a suspected shoplifting in
Dundalk which was investigated at the time. The details of
which I cannot find here. I understand that his appeal on
that occasion was based on the same ground as this one,
i.e. his wife's medical history. This was supported by a
medical certificate at the time from the same doctor.
"At the time I made my recommendations" -- you say that you
were concerned about the medical condition of
Mr. Corrigan's wife. And you go on to say: "I was not
aware of the extent of her problem and her hospitalisation.
I know the lady. I met her on one or two social occasions
with her husband and I have no reason to doubt her medical
condition."
So, it was quite clear she was afflicted?
A. Yes.
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Q. Now, the next document is a document dated 30th August, 91
1989. You now revert back to corresponding with
'C' Branch, Crime and Security, and it seems, from the last
paragraph, which we'll come to, there is a developing or
growing concern on your part that Mr. Corrigan or Sergeant
Corrigan just might sort of slip the net, as it were?
A. Yes.
Q. And we'll come to that when we come to the last paragraph. 92
Then you begin: "Sergeant Corrigan was directed on
permanent transfer to SDU on the 5th May, 1989. His appeal
against the transfer was refused by the Commissioner and he
has applied to have the matter taken before the Review
Board. A date for the hearing has not been notified."
Could you explain to us who or what is the Review Board?
What is its composition? Is it lay people or was it
members of the Force?
A. I was very familiar with it at one time but, unfortunately,
my recollection now of how it was constituted is vague.
But, yes, I think there was representatives of the Force,
possibly somebody from the Department of Justice and maybe
a lay person or an outside person.
Q. Very well. Now, "9 breaches of discipline had been alleged 93
against Sergeant Corrigan arising from unauthorised use of
official vehicles, altering official records" - and there
was another matter which is not relevant - "charges have
been preferred and I have recommended that they be heard at
a sworn inquiry.
"Since the incidents referred to, Sergeant Corrigan has
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literally opted out of all involvement in ordinary police
duties. He is not on speaking terms with most of his
superiors and he communicates only with a few close
colleagues while ignoring all others."
So it seems that a fairly serious situation had occurred,
in that Mr. Corrigan effectively had sort of shut down?
A. Yes, as I said, he had opted out really.
Q. "On 17th July, 1989, a man called John MacNulty was 94
abducted from Roadwood Club, Dromad, and murdered across
the border. Detective Sergeant Corrigan was the only
Detective Sergeant on duty from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. that
night. He reported on duty and was not seen or heard from
by any of his supervisors after that. He was not involved
in the immediate investigation of the crime."
Now, he was the Detective Sergeant, investigating crime was
his remit, was it not?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know why he wasn't involved in the investigation of 95
this? Was it a decision not to involve him or he opted out
or what?
A. If he was on duty in a car, and the car would be fitted
with a radio, even if he didn't want to become involved in
the investigation, he would have been aware from radio
traffic that a serious incident had occurred and he would
be expected to respond, if only out of curiosity if he
wasn't directed to it. So, I could only conclude that he
either hadn't the radio switched on, wasn't in the car. If
there was a problem with the radio in the car, normally a
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member would return to the station and get a hand radio.
If he had left the car briefly for any particular reason,
when he returned to the car, he would be expected to call
the Control Room and find out if anything happened or if he
was required for anything.
Q. Now, you go on to say that: "On the 22nd August, 1988, at 96
10:50 p.m. a fire bomb was thrown into a house occupied by"
- a particular gentleman - "in Dundalk. Sergeant Corrigan
was the only Detective Sergeant on duty from 10 p.m. to
6 a.m. on the 22nd/23rd August, 1989. He reported on duty
at 10 p.m. and was not subsequently seen or heard from
during the night. He did not report off duty at 6 a.m. and
did not take an official car or personal radio with him
when going on duty."
Now, you wrote that in 1989. Subsequently did you ever
find out what Mr. Corrigan was doing on that night?
A. I have no recollection of that.
Q. Now, you go on to say that the matters that you just 97
referred to are being investigated under the Garda Siochana
(Discipline) Regulations, 1989. "However, I am bringing
all of them to your notice at this stage as I believe it is
important that the true position regarding this man be
known to the members of the Review Board when his appeal is
being dealt with. He is a very convincing man and could
easily give the impression to those hearing his appeal that
he is being unfairly and harshly treated."
Now, was that your assessment of Mr. Corrigan?
A. Yes.
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Q. That he -- does that go with his shrewdness and -- 98
A. Yes, that he could convince them otherwise.
Q. He could be a convincing man, you say? 99
A. Yes.
Q. Are you aware of, before I go onto the next letter, are you 100
aware of the allegation of shoplifting that you mentioned?
A. I am aware of it, yes.
Q. And how much of it are you aware? 101
A. Not very much, just I have heard all of that subsequently.
Q. When you say "subsequently", you mean... 102
A. Since this inquiry arose.
Q. Were you involved at all in the investigation of the 103
allegation?
A. No.
Q. When you did become involved, what steps did you take? 104
A. I wasn't involved. My recollection is that happened prior
to my time --
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A. Yes.
Q. So whoever was there before you is the person to deal with 106
it, is that your view?
A. Yes.
Q. Very good. Okay. Now, the next document is from what 107
appears to be from the Review Board. "Disciplinary appeal:
Sergeant Owen Corrigan." And he refers to the appeal.
"The appeal was considered by the Review Body on the
20th October, 1989. Their finding was that they should not
recommend that the appeal be allowed.
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"However, in view of the member's family circumstances and,
in particular, his wife's medical condition, it is
suggested that consideration be given to facilitating the
member with another post at a station nearer his home than
Dublin. In this regard Drogheda Station was suggested.
The Body recommends that this be considered."
Now, I will open in a moment your response to that. But
could you tell the Chairman what your response was to the
suggestion that he be transferred to Drogheda?
A. Have you a date for that?
Q. Which now? 108
A. For that memo.
Q. That memo is, I think, the 24th October, 1989. The matter 109
being considered on the 20th October, 1989. And the
recommendation was that it should be considered that he be
transferred to Drogheda rather than to Dublin.
A. Oh, I wouldn't have gone along with that at all. I think
that wouldn't have achieved anything because Drogheda was
just down the road and in the same division.
Q. I think you made that clear in the next document, which is 110
a report dated 3rd November, 1989. Which -- at this point
is directed to administration, isn't that right?
A. It's 'B' Branch, yes.
Q. So just to understand the destinations of the 111
correspondence. You began with Crime and Security because
it was a matter for them because he was a detective?
A. He was a detective.
Q. So did the position change once the Review Body came in? 112
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Q. So that passed over to the administration side, is it -- 113
A. Yes.
Q. -- once the decision to transfer has been made?114
A. Could go back and forth, but it was decided that 'B' Branch
would take it over at that point.
Q. Very good. Okay. Now, you refer to a minute from the 115
Assistant Commissioner of 'B' Branch and to the letter
which was just up on the screen there, from the Chairman of
the Review Body.
"I wish to say that a vacancy exists in Detective Branch in
Dundalk as a result of the retirement of Detective Sergeant
M Downey. It's my intention to recommend that this vacancy
be filled when I am allocated sufficient Sergeants to fill
other vacancies in that rank in the division. Sergeant
Corrigan has previously served at Drogheda" - you give the
dates - "His transfer to Drogheda at this stage of his
service would not be welcomed by senior officers there
because of his conduct generally and his other interests in
that area. I am aware that he purchased a house at
Lawrence Street in Drogheda last March or April and that
this house is let out in flats at present to a number of
tenants. He is also the owner of a house site at
Rathmullen in Drogheda. His service in Drogheda was not
regarded as being in the best traditions of the Force and
his departure from Dundalk was regarded by many as very
timely. I am aware that one of my predecessors forbade him
to enter Drogheda on duty while he was stationed in
Dundalk."
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Now, how did all that come about?
A. I don't know.
Q. But you are aware that effectively there was a veto on him 116
going into --
A. Obviously he wasn't very welcome in Drogheda.
Q. Now, when you say "Drogheda", do you mean the station or 117
the town?
A. The station, if the officers were making those comments
about him.
Q. When you say "Drogheda", you are actually referring to the 118
Garda station?
A. It's the station I am talking about. It may have applied
to the town also, I am not sure.
Q. You go on to say: "During the course of the last few days 119
I have had confidential inquiries made by senior officers
concerning the desirability of allowing Sergeant Corrigan
to serve in Drogheda. I have been informed that he
approached an Inspector there in the last few weeks
inquiring if he knew that any public houses were for sale
in the town. He has also contacted a well known Drogheda
publican in the company of a Drogheda builder come cinema
owner and inquired if he would sell him his public house.
The publican declined to sell."
You are aware of who these people were, but you didn't put
their names into the correspondence?
A. Yes.
Q. "I have no doubt that Sergeant Corrigan's allocation to 120
Detective Branch in Drogheda would be the cause of
embarrassment to members of the Force there because of his
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previous service history and conduct generally, his outside
interests and the fact that he is not a member who can be
trusted to work unsupervised."
Now, what do you mean by that phrase "cannot be trusted to
work unsupervised"?
A. Well, from his activities in Dundalk it was obvious that he
was acting as a free agent really.
Q. When you refer to his activities in Dundalk, what are you 121
referring to?
A. In relation to the cars, his absence from these events that
occurred when he should have been --
Q. You mean his conduct at the station or about the station? 122
A. Yes, his official duties.
Q. What I am trying to get at is, are you referring to 123
smuggling in that context?
A. That would have been one of them, yes.
Q. Right. And you go on to say: "If he were transferred to 124
Detective Branch at Drogheda he would be the senior
Sergeant in a unit with one other Sergeant, and I would not
regard him as suitable for that position having regard to
his casual attitude to authority and his weakness for using
official motorcars for his private use for which he is at
present the subject of disciplinary action. I am convinced
that it would only be a matter of a short time until he
again came into conflict with the discipline regulations.
I strongly oppose the transfer of this man to Drogheda. If
I were asked to choose between allowing him to remain in
Dundalk where he would at least be under the control and
supervision of a Detective Superintendent or a Detective
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Inspector or transferring him to Drogheda, I would have to
say that I would prefer to allow him to remain in Dundalk."
That's stating it pretty strongly, isn't it?
A. Again, it was down to a question of supervision, yeah.
Q. And this is the supervision of a man who had been a member 125
of the Force for 30 years pretty well at this stage, if not
more?
A. Yes, it shouldn't have been a problem but because of the
way things had changed.
Q. Now, the last document I'll put before you will lead us on 126
to another topic as well. It's a document dated 23rd
January, 1990, and it's a document issued under the
Discipline Regulations of 1989. And you charge
Mr. Corrigan with two breaches of discipline, namely that
he didn't have in his possession a personal radio on
outdoor duties as the supervising Sergeant on certain
dates, and secondly, that he did not contact the Garda
station in Dundalk, was not available when required by
Superintendent Patrick Tierney to investigate a serious
crime, which is mentioned there.
Now, this is the second set of disciplinary proceedings
that was issued against Mr. Corrigan, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. The first one was grounded on, I think, a report you got 127
from Superintendent Connolly, and that related to, amongst
other matters, his unexplained use of an official patrol
car, and the allegation found to be proven was he had
altered the logbook, the station logbook, isn't that right?
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A. Yes.
Q. And the result of that particular hearing was that he was 128
fined a total of £150, to be deducted from his salary?
Now, you launched these proceedings, I'll call them
proceedings but they are a disciplinary inquiry against
him. As I understand it, the whole panoply of an inquiry
was established, a supervising officer or president or --
A. Investigating officer.
Q. Investigating officer. And then there was the -- I think 129
was it Superintendent Hickey was in charge of the inquiry
in this case?
A. Again, I think that came after my time.
Q. Very well. We will leave it at that. But in all events an 130
inquiry was set up, I think you are aware of that?
A. Yes.
Q. What became of that inquiry, to your knowledge? 131
A. It never came to fruition, I think because he reported
sick, I think, and...
Q. And this was in January of 1990. Was it at that point that 132
he started to report sick?
A. Yes.
Q. And for how long did he report sick? 133
A. I think -- again, I left in January '91. I think he
remained sick for most of that year and went on half pay
and had been recalled to the depot by the surgeon, and if
he was on half pay, he obviously, I think, had to be out
six months at least before he went on half pay.
Q. That's right, yes. 134
A. So, he must have been sick from that time in December 1990.
Q. Do you have any information of what he was doing when he 135
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was on sick leave?
A. Yes. Again, rumours, strong rumours that he was involved
in importing and selling cars at his home.
Q. This is while he was on sick leave? 136
A. Yes.
Q. So, as I understand it, the inquiry was adjourned from time 137
to time, from date to date?
A. Yes.
Q. And is it the case that each time the adjourned date came 138
up, that Mr. Corrigan again said he was unwell and unable
to deal with the matter?
A. Yes.
Q. And I think he submitted medical certificates in support? 139
A. Yes.
Q. And at the same time, your understanding, or the 140
information you have, though you accept that you have no
proof of the matter, was that he was actually dealing in
cars?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, I think you are aware that ultimately Mr. Corrigan 141
decided to retire?
A. Yes.
Q. And I think you are also aware that the decision was taken 142
at that point to stop the inquiry?
A. Well, I had left Dundalk at that time, but I believe that
was the case.
Q. Could you tell us, why is it that simply because the member 143
has retired that the inquiry is stopped?
A. Well, just one point I want to make earlier in relation to
transfers. A transfer is not a penalty for a breach of
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discipline. A lot of people think it is and a lot of
guards think it is, and it isn't one of the penalties.
There are various penalties, from dismissal and --
Q. Fines? 144
A. -- fine, reprimand, caution, and reduce in rank. But a
transfer is used as an effective means to transfer officers
mostly, not uniformed guards or Sergeants, because it's a
different procedure there in the interests of the service,
it's an expeditious way of moving a person who you may want
to shift quickly out of an area, but again, that is often,
and in most cases, frustrated by various appeals and so
forth, including injunctions in the High Court which often
delay these transfers for years.
Q. I understand that, but my question was directed at another 145
matter which is this: That an inquiry had been set up --
A. Yes.
Q. -- to investigate his conduct. That inquiry should, in 146
all, had all things gone to plan, had been done and dusted?
A. I think the practice has been, and I think when a member
retired, it concluded everything, that he was no longer a
member of the Force, even though the matter under
investigation happened while he was a member of the Force.
Everything concludes at that point. I think it just comes
to a conclusion.
Q. Well, this may seem a little bit harsh, but isn't it an 147
inevitable consequence of what you have just said that a
member can effectively frustrate the Force in...
A. Yes, there is a long history of that --
Q. -- discipling him?148
A. -- there is a long history of that and it's been used very
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successfully, and still is. I know of cases that dragged
on for years where men were on half pay for years, many
years.
Q. Well, again -- I am not asking you to deal with the general 149
because the Judge is not concerned with the general, but
the particular, Mr. Corrigan. Why wasn't something done,
do you know, to bring matters to a head and say, look, this
is going on, to investigate the sick certificates, for
example, do you know why?
A. I don't know why, but I think it must be felt that justice
has been done by the person leaving the Force and that
there is nothing to be achieved by pursuing it any further
beyond looking for the pound of flesh.
Q. Well, isn't it more than that, isn't it to set an example 150
to others, whatever about the pound of flesh approach, to
set an example to others?
A. That is the practice. That has been the practice and I
don't think it has changed.
Q. Were you at any time aware that following his retirement 151
Mr. Corrigan was kidnapped?
A. Afterwards, yes.
Q. Did you hear anything about that? 152
A. Not beyond the fact that it happened. I wasn't interested.
Q. Even though he had taken up so much of your time when you 153
were in Dundalk?
A. I had moved on.
Q. Very well. And did a gentleman called Francis Tierney come 154
to your attention when you were in Dundalk?
A. Sorry?
Q. Francis Tierney -- Tiernan, my apologies, Francis Tiernan? 155
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A. No.
Q. Now, you mentioned in your report Mr. Corrigan's property 156
interests, namely that in addition to his house he had the
other house in Lawrence Street and he owned a site in
Rathmullen. Was that a matter of concern to you?
A. Was it?
Q. Sorry, was that a matter of concern to you that, if I can 157
put it this way, that somebody on a Sergeant's pay could
accumulate property?
A. It wouldn't have been a matter of great concern. It
wouldn't be unusual for members -- he wasn't in breach of
any regulation by having, owning property. It wasn't in
the station area in which he served and...
Q. I understand that. I am not suggesting it's a breach of 158
discipline regulations. But you knew better than most what
a Sergeant could earn?
A. Yes, well --
Q. And here was a Sergeant who could earn and own at least -- 159
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Chairman, if we are going to start an
inquiry into properties owned by members of An Garda
Siochana, we are going to be here for a long time. And I
think it's unfair on Mr. Dillon to give the impression that
there is something unusual about Mr. Corrigan owning
properties aside from his family home. He is perfectly
entitled to do that. And there is an undercurrent in
Mr. Dillon's questioning of the witness which seeks to
present Mr. Corrigan as being in an exceptionally unusual
position. And I reject that, and I will deal with it in
cross-examination with the witness, but I think it's very
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unfair to start identifying Mr. Corrigan --
CHAIRMAN: Why is it? It may be uncomfortable for your
client, but why is it unfair?
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Because he is asking questions about
property owned by Mr. Corrigan. There is nothing unusual
about members of An Garda Siochana owning other properties.
And if he is going to start questioning this witness about
Mr. Corrigan's other property interests, let's look at
every other member of An Garda Siochana in Dundalk who had
other property interests. That's what Mr. Dillon is trying
to suggest, that there was something unorthodox in the
manner by which my client was able to purchase a property.
There was nothing unorthodox about it.
CHAIRMAN: But your client will have an opportunity, when
giving evidence, to answer that allegation.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: I know, but why is it -- my client, along
with two other officers, is the focus of this Inquiry. But
I think it's important that we retain a recognition that,
you know, activities that he is involved in are not unique
to him. He is not the only member of An Garda Siochana
ever to be exposed to disciplinary inquiry. He is not the
only member of An Garda Siochana ever to have a second job.
And he is not the only member of An Garda Siochana to own
property aside from his family home. And I don't think the
impression should be given that he is in a unique position
because of that. He is not.
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CHAIRMAN: Well, I think the question is legitimate and I'd
ask Mr. Dillon to continue.
MR. DILLON: It goes further than that, and thank you for
your ruling, but it's this: These are matters which have
given rise to some concern. Now, you have been listening
to what Mr. Nolan has been saying to you in evidence. He
has dealt with those points. He has said that he didn't
see anything particularly unusual about Detective Sergeant
Corrigan owning three premises. He has answered the points
that Mr. O' Callaghan is making in his evidence (sic). So,
Mr. Corrigan really, it seems to me, shouldn't consider he
is being singled out, because on the contrary, what
Mr. Nolan has to say to you makes it clear that he
shouldn't be singled out. But the point has to be made to
test the point, and you now have the evidence and you can
proceed on that basis. I don't see that it should be of
any concern - sorry, that's the wrong way to put it - that
Mr. Corrigan should be concerned about this line of
questioning because the answers -- the evidence that you
are now receiving in fact supports him.
Now, if I may carry on.
Q. Detective Sergeant Corrigan was a detective and there was, 160
it's clear there was provision for rewarding informants,
isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Who was in control of that fund? 161
A. The Chief Superintendent.
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Q. In Dundalk? 162
A. Yes.
Q. That was you, therefore? 163
A. Yes.
Q. Very well. And -- well, Mr. Corrigan's productivity had 164
tailed off, so presumably, is it fair to say, that he made
no application to you for --
A. I have no recollection of ever having paid him anything.
Q. Now, you know that Mr. Corrigan was, has been named as 165
being somebody who allegedly provided assistance to the IRA
in the matter under review, you are aware of that, aren't
you?
A. Yes.
Q. That was done by Mr. Jeffrey Donaldson in the House of 166
Commons in London under parliamentary privilege?
A. Yes.
Q. Have you a view on this allegation? 167
A. Well, about him being named in the House of Commons?
Q. No, about the substantive allegation that he provided 168
assistance to the IRA, have you a view on that?
A. I have a view, I suppose, really from my knowledge now of
events and the information that I have learned over the
period of time since the murders, that I don't think
that -- if I am entitled to give this view?
Q. Oh, yes. 169
A. I don't think that Mr. Corrigan, despite all his faults,
was a mole or passed on any information to the PIRA
regarding the movements of those officers.
Q. Very well. Another point on this topic: Were you 170
surprised that he was named in this fashion?
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A. I suppose I wasn't really surprised, looking at the entire
strength of the Detective Branch at Dundalk at that time.
I suppose he would fit into a category of, if there was to
be a source, that he probably would fit into that category.
Q. That said, you don't believe there is any credence to be 171
attached to the allegation, is that right?
A. I don't.
Q. I think you are aware that Mr. Corrigan gave evidence to an 172
Oireachtas committee where he informed the committee that
he had given information over the years to Headquarters
about collusion in the North. Were you aware of any such
information being given?
A. I read that in reports, but I thought that that was not the
case, that that was subsequently denied.
Q. Do you know anything about the suggestion that Tom 173
Connolly's predecessor, Pat Culhane, contacted RTE in
relation to a programme about smuggling?
A. Not at the time, but I am aware of that since and I
expressed surprise that he would have done that, but I knew
him very well, Pat Culhane, and perhaps he did, although
I'm not sure that an approach by a Detective Superintendent
in Dundalk to RTE would have been sufficient to prevent a
programme being broadcast.
Q. In your time, what were the arrangements or provisions for 174
the security of RUC officers visiting the stations in your
particular district or division, I always get the two
concepts mixed up?
A. For RUC officers visiting?
Q. Yes. 175
A. Well, there were no specific arrangements made. Each side
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was left to their own devices as regards their own
security, and I think it satisfied both sides that they
didn't disclose their travel arrangements. There may have
been incidents where senior officers or others chose to
notify their opposite numbers if they were travelling
further south or to Dublin, they might in those instances
have been escorted to the border.
Q. Was there ever any risk assessment carried out as to the 176
risk to RUC officers?
A. There wasn't, again I think because of the fact that these
activities had been going on for so long since the '70s
without any major incidents involving the security forces
in the south, that it just drifted along until something
like this happened.
Q. Perhaps a bit harsh to say, but a sort of sense of 177
complacency had set in?
A. A degree of it. And the same would have applied going
North.
Q. I think you are aware that Judge Cory in his report 178
referred to the IRA covering a multiple number of roads.
What's your view on that?
A. Oh, I think that logistically that would have been
impossible to cover all the possible routes from
Carlingford Lough over the entire border over to Monaghan.
Q. Well, let's say the Armagh border area rather than -- 179
narrow it down to that?
A. Even that, there were -- I cannot give the exact number of
border crossing points arose, but the whole area there is a
maze of minor secondary roads, that any one of them could
have been chosen to travel.
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Q. Now, I think you obviously do know this, that within a 180
matter of 15 to 20 minutes of leaving your office the two
officers, the two RUC officers were murdered?
A. Yeah.
Q. What does that say to you about how that particular matter 181
was organised? What information do you think the
subversives had at the time?
A. Could you repeat that question? I am not quite sure what
you mean.
Q. Sorry, within 20 minutes of leaving your office the two 182
officers were murdered?
A. Yes.
Q. What does that say to you about what information the 183
subversives might have had in relation to their movements?
A. Well, it meant that they had either good information or
they were lucky on the day.
Q. Well, let's put lucky on the day to one side, because 184
that's always a possibility. Let's look at good
information. First of all they would have needed to know
that the two officers were going to be in the station at
some point during the day, isn't that right?
A. Yes, which they could have known quite easily by following
them into Dundalk.
Q. And they arrived at the station, but the one thing they 185
don't know, of course, is when they are going to leave,
isn't that right?
A. No.
Q. Nobody knows that -- 186
A. No.
Q. Whenever the meeting comes to an end, that's when they 187
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leave, isn't that right?
A. That's right.
Q. So, is it your view that they were followed again? 188
A. Yes, because it would be leaving too much to chance to know
which road they were going to take, although history has
shown that they went more or less the same route most of
the time.
Q. Well, that's your view, is it? 189
A. Maybe eight out of ten times.
Q. That's your view, all right. What thought crossed your 190
mind when you heard of the murders?
A. Well, naturally I was shocked initially because I was the
last person to have met with them and spoke with them.
Initially, if it's a question of did somebody -- was there
a mole, as was publicised afterwards? That didn't cross my
mind immediately. I was convinced then and, indeed,
perhaps still am, that it was a well executed Provisional
IRA ambush and that it was well organised and it wasn't
left to chance and we were dealing with very professional
terrorists or killers on the border, who roamed at will the
entire area, and who is to say that they hadn't, on
numerous other occasions, carried out surveillance on
previous visits to the south and worked out a plan and that
on this particular occasion they were able to execute it.
There may have been other occasions where they had a
similar plan in mind and set up and weren't able to execute
it because the victims took a different route.
Q. But it was the day after the murders that Assistant 191
Commissioner O'Dea came up to Dundalk Station, is that
right?
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A. Yes.
Q. And his task was to inquire whether there had been a leak, 192
isn't that right?
A. Just to investigate for the Commissioner and for the
Government.
Q. Absolutely, but whether there was a leak, isn't that right? 193
A. Well, you raised this before. It was to find out the
entire circumstances of the killings: Why they were in
Dundalk, what was said while they were in Dundalk, when
they left, who they met and so forth. It was a broad
investigation into, and if a mole was involved in it, that
would be part of it, but he didn't come up, and I am sure
he can speak for this himself, but it wasn't a priority we
find the mole, because there was no history of moles. I
mean, the whole operation in Dundalk for years there was
dealing with terrorists and border activity and border
incidents and VIPs crossing the border from both
directions, and there wasn't a day that there wasn't some
form of intrigue or incident in that area. So, one didn't
think of moles.
Q. But hadn't the allegation of collusion or moles, call it 194
what you like, arisen in connection with previous murders?
A. Yes, but not necessarily through -- from Garda sources. I
mean, it would be something, I'm not critical of the media
for advertising, it is always the possibility and it's a
good headline to put out a day after the event, that a mole
is being investigated, but nobody can specifically say that
there was a mole or an informant.
Q. Oh, indeed, and hence the reason for the inquiry? 195
A. Yes.
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Q. But a clear conclusion, I think you are aware of this, but 196
if you are not I can show it to you, I might even have it
here, that the Assistant Commissioner said that he is
satisfied there was no leak from Dundalk Station. So
clearly the question of whether there was a leak was part
and parcel of his task. It was one aspect of his task,
isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. And when you talk about a leak, you are talking about a 197
mole?
A. Yes.
Q. So, the question of whether or not there was a mole was in 198
fact a consideration at the time?
A. Oh, yes, of course it was, yeah.
MR. DILLON: Thank you.
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Q. MR. McGUINNESS: Good afternoon, Mr. Nolan. My name is 199
Dermot McGuinness, I am appearing for An Garda Siochana.
Just in terms of your experience before you came to
Dundalk; you had first been promoted to a Detective
Superintendent in 1980 and then you went to the Technical
Bureau?
A. Yes.
Q. And then you spent four years there and you were promoted 200
as Chief Superintendent. And then you spent a year in the
Crime Branch as Chief Superintendent?
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A. Yes.
Q. And then you spent three years in 'B' Branch? 201
A. Yes.
Q. And that dealt with personnel? 202
A. Yes.
Q. And you were, in a sense, running 'B' Branch under one of 203
the Assistant Commissioners?
A. Yes.
Q. Reporting directly to him? 204
A. Yes.
Q. And in that capacity, every sort of discipline file would 205
have passed through your hands?
A. Yes.
Q. And you would have processed that? 206
A. Yes.
Q. And dealt with every case of alleged ill discipline and 207
discipline as found?
A. That's correct.
Q. And separate from that is the issue of the deployment of 208
members in the interests of the service, and I think you
have correctly pointed out that transfer is not a penalty
under the Discipline Regulations, nor was it ever such a
penalty?
A. Yes.
Q. And Mr. Dillon was asking you about your report of February 209
of 1989 to Crime and Security. And there was nothing
unusual in sending that to Crime and Security because you
hadn't the power to reassign a Detective Sergeant to
uniform duties or to any other division?
A. That's correct, yes.
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Q. So, the fact that Mr. Corrigan's -- an application, as it 210
were, in relation to his transfer went to Crime and
Security was nothing unusual and, in fact, it was the only
proper and regular course?
A. Yes.
Q. The separate issue which later arose of discipline 211
regulations, that was a matter within your jurisdiction as
the Chief Superintendent in Dundalk?
A. Yes.
Q. And you were entitled to and did invoke the discipline 212
regulations, and that was sanctioned. And that first set
of discipline regulations took its course?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, in terms of Sergeant Corrigan's duties at that time, 213
you had come from three years of dealing with every
discipline problem that arose in the Gardai and you
obviously formed a view about Sergeant Corrigan and the
interests of the service insofar as him being stationed
there?
A. Yes.
Q. And in terms of his work record, as such, in fact he wasn't 214
reporting directly to you as the Chief Superintendent?
A. No.
Q. I mean, he would be expected to report to the Detective 215
Superintendent in charge of the detectives in Dundalk?
A. Yes, but the Detective Superintendent would report to me.
Q. Yes, I understand that, of course. He could also, indeed, 216
report to Headquarters, and you would have known
historically that he had done that over the years?
A. He could do that, but it wasn't the proper way to do
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things. One followed the proper chain of command and
reported to his Sergeant, to their Inspector, to Detective
Superintendent, to the Chief Superintendent, but that's not
to exclude the fact that he could have gone directly, as he
did in the past, but he chose to do that.
Q. Reporting directly to Crime and Security, that wasn't 217
something either initiated necessarily by him, that was
permitted at the time?
A. If the information was good, it was welcomed.
Q. Yes, and he could report either directly or by means of 218
C77s as well?
A. Yes.
Q. And any intelligence that might have been garnered by any 219
of the detectives, it wouldn't necessarily go to you either
directly or indirectly?
A. If it was on a C77, a copy would be sent to the Chief
Superintendent, yes.
Q. Well, I don't want to revisit issues you have dealt with 220
already, but were you ever made aware of any criticism
about C77s being not carefully stored or kept in the
offices?
A. At what level?
Q. Pardon? 221
A. What level? In what office?
Q. At the level of Chief Superintendent or Detective 222
Superintendent?
A. There was never any problem keeping such documents in my
office.
Q. Now, insofar as ceasing to perform duties while you were 223
there, I think is it the case that he reported sick
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immediately prior to the date when his transfer was due to
come into effect in December of 1989?
A. I couldn't be sure of the day or the date, but it was
around that time.
Q. We have seen the sequence of events, which I don't want to 224
go into any detail on, but he had exhausted his appeal to
the Review Body?
A. Yes.
Q. The Review Body's recommendation that an alternative 225
posting within the division had been rejected by the
Commissioner, effectively?
A. Yes.
Q. And the order to effect the transfer to Harcourt Street 226
came into effect then, and he didn't take any proceedings
in relation to that, unlike many other members have done in
the past, as such?
A. You mean he didn't go to the courts?
Q. Yes. 227
A. No, he didn't.
Q. And in terms of reporting sick, whilst it may be obviously 228
and is obviously unacceptable if a member erroneously or
wrongly reported sick, it was not an uncommon feature for
guards required to transfer to fall sick at the prospect of
the transfer taking place?
A. Oh, it was quite regularly done, yes. It was a means to
delay and frustrate the execution of the transfer.
Q. And it's obviously not acceptable, but that wouldn't be at 229
all an unusual feature?
A. Not unusual, as long as there was a medical certificate to
support that.
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Q. Now, just a small technical point, because it arises from 230
something Mr. Dillon issued. When you commenced the
disciplinary proceeding against him, was he suspended from
duty at any stage?
A. No.
Q. And Mr. Dillon asked you whether and why the disciplinary 231
proceedings didn't continue after he retired. Is it
correct to say that all of the penalties available in the
disciplinary process all relate to his employment?
A. That would be correct to say.
Q. Reprimands, suspensions, reduction in rank, reduction in 232
pay and ultimately dismissal?
A. Yes.
Q. None of those are obviously applicable or could have effect 233
if he is allowed to retire?
A. Well, unless a monetary fine perhaps could be enforced
afterwards by way of a deduction from pension or something
like that.
Q. Am I correct in saying that at this point in time the 234
interaction between the disciplinary process and the
retirement regulations was such that a person facing
disciplinary proceedings couldn't retire without the
permission of the Commissioner?
A. That's correct.
Q. And the Commissioner obviously decided on Mr. Corrigan's 235
application to allow him to retire?
A. Yes.
Q. And that made the disciplinary proceedings redundant? 236
A. That's correct.
Q. And Mr. Corrigan was then free to pursue his other outside 237
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interests?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, in your statement, at page 16, Mr. Dillon had been 238
asking you about the issue of a mole. Were you ever
informed at any stage by, either through Chief
Superintendent Breen or Superintendent Buchanan or Chief
Superintendent Breen's Staff Officer that there was any
issue about a mole in Dundalk Garda Station?
A. I personally was never told that, and with the benefit of
hindsight I often wonder if that was the case and if
Mr. Breen's Staff Officer had expressed concern on that
morning, why that wasn't passed on to me by Mr. Breen.
Q. You say: "I am surprised to think not alone that they 239
think there was a mole, they knew and named the mole and a
mole was named under privilege as I know afterwards." And
you ask: "Why did the RUC itself as a force not think it
important enough to pass that on to us to enable us to do
something, because in those circumstances I am sure some
sort of special surveillance would have been placed on the
person."
A. Yes. But I believe that the fact that this person had been
named, this alleged mole in the Garda Siochana had been
named perhaps at a higher level meeting of the RUC and the
Gardai, because I have a recollection that Sir John Hermon
commented on the fact that this person had been excluded
from their inquiries and concerns.
Q. You seem to express a view in the following terms: "I am 240
inclined to think that this person was possibly seen in the
company of known subversives and that a conclusion was
drawn that it was for the wrong reason."
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A. It's a possibility, yes, that such a conclusion could be
reached.
Q. But if such information had been known, made known to you 241
as a Chief Superintendent in relation to any named person,
would you have taken steps immediately?
A. Not necessarily, because if a detective wanted to get good
information, the obvious source was a member of the IRA or
the PIRA.
Q. My question was directed, or perhaps to a different issue. 242
If you had known or if someone had named someone as a mole,
would you have taken steps immediately yourself?
A. Of course I would.
Q. If, for instance, you had learnt that a search was possibly 243
compromised by some tipping off of information, would you
have taken steps immediately if any such thing had
occurred?
A. I would have had to, yes, to find out why it was
compromised.
Q. You were the Chief Superintendent in Dundalk in January of 244
1990?
A. Yes.
Q. Did Detective Inspector Prenty ever suggest to you that a 245
search had been compromised?
A. He may have, but I don't have any recollection of that.
Q. Would you expect to recall that if it related to a search 246
of, as it were, a high value PIRA suspect?
A. There are many important searches and many important
incidents. I'm not sure that any specific one would stick
out in my mind around this time.
Q. You have no recollection of Detective Inspector Prenty 247
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discussing it at any stage with you?
A. No. He may have, but I have no recollection.
MR. McGUINNESS: Thank you, Mr. Nolan.
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FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Good afternoon, Mr. Nolan. Mr. Nolan, I 248
think you'd agree with me that many members of An Garda
Siochana are subjected to disciplinary inquiries, wouldn't
that be correct?
A. Yes.
Q. And there is nothing unusual about a member of An Garda 249
Siochana being inquired into on a disciplinary issue, it
happens frequently within the Force?
A. Yes.
Q. And have you conducted many of them yourself? 250
A. I have not conducted very many, no, but I was certainly, as
previously stated, involved in all of them over a period of
three years by way of adjudicating on them.
Q. And I am sure there are many members of An Garda Siochana 251
today who, on their record, have some minor disciplinary
finding against them, wouldn't that be correct?
A. It would.
Q. And members of An Garda Siochana can also be the subject of 252
allegations which are false or exaggerated, would you agree
with me on that?
A. Yes, there is a provision under the complaints procedures
then, I think it's been changed since then, but many
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complaints are made that are often unsubstantiated and it
can be vexations.
Q. And in order to ensure fairness for the member of An Garda 253
Siochana and, indeed, the person making the allegation,
there is a statutory procedure in place to deal with
complaints against An Garda Siochana?
A. That's correct.
Q. Under disciplinary inquiry, isn't that correct? 254
A. That's correct.
Q. And members of An Garda Siochana are entitled to fair 255
procedures when they come to defend themselves, isn't that
so?
A. That is so.
Q. And you, in respect of Mr. Corrigan, you heard allegations 256
against him and you commenced what you thought was the
disciplinary process, isn't that so?
A. That's so.
Q. But if somebody wants to get a fair assessment of 257
Mr. Corrigan's disciplinary record, would you not agree
with me that the place to look is to see what were the
findings against him adjudicated upon through this fair
system of disciplinary procedure? What was he actually
found to have breached by way of discipline?
A. Well, the only way of doing that is to set up the procedure
to allow such an investigation to take place. That is fair
procedure.
Q. Well, it is fair procedure. 258
A. There wasn't any summary way of doing it. But I think if
you are coming around to the fact of why was he being
transferred?
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Q. No, I am not. I am coming around to the fact that 259
ultimately at the end of his career there were only two
findings of breach of discipline against Mr. Corrigan: One
for altering the logbook and the other for an unauthorised
use of a Garda car, isn't that correct? Maybe you know
that, but they are the only findings against him?
A. Yes, but I think there was another set of breaches of
discipline that weren't concluded.
Q. I know, but in fairness -- 260
A. But only two at that point.
Q. They are the ones we spoke about with Mr. Dillon earlier 261
on, the fire bombing of the house --
A. They were the only two proven ones.
Q. But in fairness to Mr. Corrigan, isn't he entitled to have 262
the full process of the disciplinary procedure before a
finding is made against him?
A. And I imagine that was the case, that that was done.
Q. And in terms of the outstanding allegations, the one which 263
you say were never concluded, it would be very harsh on him
to say that he is guilty of those breaches of discipline
since they never concluded?
A. That's right. But...
Q. And so when we look at Mr. Corrigan's record, his 264
disciplinary record, there are two findings against him:
Altering a logbook in a car and unauthorised use of a car,
for which he was subjected to a fine of £150. Would you
agree with me that those disciplinary findings against him
are of a minor nature?
A. Those two specifically, the two of them would have been of
a relatively minor nature, yeah.
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Q. And of course what differentiates Mr. Corrigan from all 265
other members of An Garda Siochana who have minor
disciplinary findings against him, is that his whole
disciplinary record is being examined in detail by this
Tribunal and reported publicly, as is our requirement in
the State of people who are covering this Tribunal. So,
can you see the different position my client is in from
other members of An Garda Siochana who have been subjected
to minor disciplinary findings?
A. I think there is a difference there, there is disciplinary
breaches, but there is also his behaviour, or misbehaviour.
Q. But what I want -- 266
A. In other words, that there are varied circumstances of acts
that he did or omitted to do which would, if proven, show
breaches of discipline.
Q. You are absolutely correct. And the most important words 267
you used there, Mr. Nolan, were "If proven", isn't that so?
He is entitled to have the process, isn't that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. And it is not for this Tribunal to determine whether or not 268
he was in breach of discipline in matters that have not
been concluded?
A. Well, that's a matter for the Tribunal.
Q. Okay. But of course, every negative statement that is made 269
about Mr. Corrigan in this Tribunal is adjudicated in the
context of the central allegation of this Inquiry, you are
aware of that?
A. That conclusion can be drawn.
Q. And that could be very unfair to him, would you agree with 270
me in that respect?
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A. Perhaps, yeah.
Q. And you said in your evidence to Mr. Dillon that you did 271
not think he was in any way involved in colluding with the
IRA in the killing of these two RUC officers, isn't that
correct?
A. Yes.
Q. But of course, the suggestion being made to you by272
Mr. Dillon and the case - I am not trying to be unfair to
him - the case that he may be attempting to construct is
that in fact Mr. Corrigan was involved in smuggling.
Because he was involved in smuggling, he had to be involved
in some respect with the IRA along the border and,
therefore, that's the magic link to the killing of the two
RUC officers?
A. Well, I don't know what Mr. Dillon was trying to show, but
I think the evidence would indicate that we were trying to
establish the character of the individual based on his
history and his activities in the border area and any
dealings with people who were suspects both in smuggling
and in criminal acts.
Q. Well, the basis for this theory is that Mr. Corrigan was 273
involved in smuggling, do you recognise that? That's the
basis for the alleged suggestion?
A. There is a strong suspicion.
Q. Okay. You have no evidence that Mr. Corrigan was involved 274
in smuggling, isn't that correct?
A. That is correct.
Q. You never sought to initiate a disciplinary complaint 275
against him or, indeed, a criminal complaint against him
for involvement in smuggling, isn't that correct?
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A. It is.
Q. And when you look at the letter you wrote, I don't know if 276
you have it in front of you there, Mr. Nolan, it's the one
dated 16th February, 1989, addressed to Mr. O'Dea, you
outline a number of your concerns, isn't that so?
A. Yes.
Q. And what you state in respect of smuggling at the beginning 277
is that: "Corrigan was to be named in an RTE television
programme as being involved in smuggling activities along
the border."
I assume, Mr. Nolan, that members of An Garda Siochana are
not perceived as being involved in criminal activity simply
because there is a suggestion they are going to be named in
an RTE programme?
A. Any reference I made to that particular programme was
something that occurred before my time there. I was merely
repeating what had been brought to my notice at that time.
Q. And who had brought it to your attention? 278
A. It must have been correspondence that existed or it may
have been Superintendent Culhane.
Q. But you have no direct information or evidence about this 279
RTE programme, isn't that correct?
A. That is correct.
Q. And in a way, your concerns about Mr. Corrigan's alleged 280
involvement in smuggling initiated from the RTE programme?
A. Oh, not at all. Rumours were rife in the area within the
station, and some civilian acquaintances of mine even
mentioned it to me that they suspected he was involved in
smuggling.
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Q. But you in your evidence said that this smuggling related 281
to cars or something like that?
A. That was in reply to what type of smuggling he may have
been engaged in.
Q. And we know that Mr. Corrigan, as a member of An Garda 282
Siochana, bought and sold cars, isn't that correct?
A. Laterally when he was out sick he was supposed to be
engaged in importing and selling cars from his home.
Q. Well, I'll come back to the issue about his sickness. But 283
you state in your letter that you have no positive proof
that he is involved. So all it was was rumour and
speculation, Mr. Nolan, isn't that correct?
A. That's right.
Q. And if you thought it was something particularly serious, 284
you would have identified a specific complaint or you would
have put a member of An Garda Siochana to investigate the
matter, isn't that correct?
A. It's not easy to catch anyone smuggling.
Q. If you thought it was -- if you thought he was committing a 285
criminal offence, you would have investigated the matter,
isn't that so?
A. Yes.
Q. And you never sought to investigate him in that respect? 286
A. There wasn't enough evidence to initiate an inquiry.
Q. Now, Mr. Corrigan opposed his transfer and sought to appeal 287
it. He was perfectly entitled to do that, isn't that so?
A. Yes.
Q. And you opposed that appeal on the basis when you heard 288
that he was to be transferred to Drogheda, isn't that so?
A. Yes.
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Q. But you also, I understand, opposed it in a letter to 289
Mr. O'Dea at the end of it when you said, "He is a very
convincing man and could easily give the impression to
those hearing his appeal that he is being unfairly and
harshly treated." Mr. Corrigan is perfectly entitled to
try to convince the appeal panel about his predicament,
isn't he?
A. Yes.
Q. Any appellant is entitled to put their best case forward? 290
A. Of course.
Q. And is that a criticism of Mr. Corrigan, the fact that he 291
is very convincing?
A. It was something I felt the Review Body should be aware of.
Q. You also recorded in the undated note to the Deputy 292
Commissioner of Operations that there was a long history of
hostility between Sergeant Corrigan and Mr. Prenty, isn't
that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And being blunt about it, Mr. Prenty did not like 293
Mr. Corrigan, would you agree with that?
A. Oh, that's correct.
Q. But one of the complaints that are made about Mr. Corrigan 294
is that he used a Garda car whilst on duty to attend the
unveiling ceremony for a colleague, Sergeant Paddy
Morrissey, who had been shot. Where was Mr. Morrissey
shot? Was he shot in Cavan or was he shot in Dublin?
A. Cavan.
Q. Would you agree with me that that type of a complaint 295
against Mr. Corrigan is rather a pathetic complaint?
A. No.
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Q. Why not? 296
A. Well, taking an official car that could have been required
for other work in Dundalk over to County Cavan to attend
any ceremony without permission I would regard as serious.
That car could have been required for urgent work in
Dundalk. Furthermore, if he wanted to go there, there
would be circumstances where he would be given permission
to go there and, indeed, even volunteer to take others with
him. And also, in normal circumstances if one wanted to
attend something like that, a member of the Force wanted,
they would go in their own private car and probably invite
two or three others who knew Mr. Morrissey to go along with
him.
Q. Would you agree with me that that type of complaint is 297
indicative of the fact that there were certain other Gardai
in Dundalk Garda Station who had it in for Detective
Corrigan?
A. I am not aware of anybody having it in for anybody.
Q. I have to suggest to you that that type of complaint 298
reveals an attitude towards Detective Sergeant Corrigan
that is unfair, would you agree with that?
A. I wouldn't.
Q. You also put in your note he was directed on permanent 299
transfer in 1978 as a result of suspected shoplifting in
Dundalk. Now, this is a complaint you are making to the
Deputy Commissioner?
A. This is just historical information that I knew nothing
about. I was merely quoting from previous correspondence,
I think that would have happened way before my time.
Q. But once again, you included it, although you had 300
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absolutely no evidence for it, Mr. Nolan, isn't that so?
A. There must have been evidence in the first investigation
that created that correspondence.
Q. But in fairness to Detective Corrigan, is he not entitled 301
to the same principles of fairness that every other member
of An Garda Siochana is entitled to?
A. I think he got that.
Q. He was never convicted of any shoplifting, was he? 302
A. No, he was merely passing on information that perhaps the
reader wasn't aware of.
Q. In conclusion, Mr. Nolan, would you agree with me that all 303
of the allegations that you have aired against Detective
Corrigan were based on rumour and hearsay?
A. No, I wouldn't agree with you on that. There is ample
evidence in relation to his misuse of official transport,
the altering of documents. Indeed there were many other
instances where he wasn't charged with any breach of
discipline which I think he -- where he should have been,
for instance the two occasions where he was on duty for a
full eight-hour period without attending to two very
serious, outrageous -- an abduction and murder in one
instance of John MacNulty who was taken from a pub and
taken across the border and murdered, and he was the only
Detective Sergeant on duty in Dundalk on that night who
never went to the scene of the crime or ever gave an
explanation why he didn't attend there.
Q. Are you the disciplinary body that determines whether or 304
not Gardai are guilty of breaches of discipline?
A. Sorry?
Q. Are you the body that determines whether or not -- 305
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A. Am I?
Q. Yeah, are you the person, are you the entity that decides? 306
A. No.
Q. No, you are not, and those matters were never determined by 307
the disciplinary panel, isn't that correct?
A. They may not have been determined by a disciplinary panel
or investigation but the fact is that they happened.
Q. You were the prosecutor, effectively, in those matters,308
Mr. Nolan, and I have to suggest to you that it's unfair
for you to give an impression to this Tribunal that they
definitely happened when there has been no adjudication on
them?
A. I am entitled to give my views on something that was common
knowledge to those who served with him in Dundalk at the
time.
Q. Common knowledge but no evidence is produced? 309
A. The evidence is that if you relate to that incident
involving the abduction and murder, the evidence is that he
didn't attend and didn't respond and didn't account for his
absence.
Q. Where is that evidence? What is the evidence? 310
A. The evidence is that he didn't, that he wasn't there.
Q. Were you there? 311
A. I was in Dundalk.
Q. And are you the person to give evidence to say that he 312
didn't respond to it?
A. I am.
Q. Well, how do you say that he didn't respond to it? 313
A. Because I was informed that he didn't respond and never
submitted a report or never -- or wasn't involved in the
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investigation.
Q. You don't have direct knowledge of it, you were informed of 314
it, isn't that so?
A. Of course.
Q. You also suggested in some respect that he was out on sick 315
leave when he shouldn't have been out on sick leave.
Presumably his sick leave was verified by medical
certificates, isn't that correct?
A. It would have to be if he was out, yes, otherwise he would
be absent from duty, yes.
Q. And so I suggest to you that what you said about him is an 316
indication of further malice against him, suggesting that
he was out on sick leave when he shouldn't have been?
A. Well, if you put it that way, I personally didn't think
that he was genuinely sick. I thought he was on sick leave
with the purpose of frustrating his transfer and the
procedures, the disciplinary procedures.
Q. And can I ask you: Do you have medical qualifications? 317
A. I don't require them to form an opinion such as that.
Q. Are you suggesting that your medical assessment of 318
Mr. Corrigan is superior to that of the doctor that
certified him sick?
A. Well, maybe it was fortuitous that his illness came at the
time when he was being investigated and transferred,
because I think prior to that he had quite a healthy aspect
about him.
Q. I'll ask the question again. Are you suggesting that your 319
medical assessment of Mr. Corrigan is superior to that of
the doctor --
A. No, I am not suggesting that. I am merely offering an
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opinion. I am not offering a medical opinion.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Thank you.
MR. COFFEY: No questions.
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MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Chairman, with your permission.
Q. Mr. Nolan, I am Mark Robinson, I appear on behalf of the 320
PSNI. I wonder if I can bring you to the visit by
Assistant Commissioner O'Dea following the murders. Can
you assist the Tribunal by telling the Tribunal your
knowledge prior to Mr. O'Dea arriving, what his visit was
for?
A. Well, I expected that immediately after the events that
somebody would be sent from Headquarters to investigate it,
to find out what happened. In other words, while I did
submit reports, which the Tribunal have, I would have
expected some independent senior officer to come and
investigate it. So, when it was Assistant Commissioner
O'Dea, I wasn't surprised because he was the most senior
officer in the Crime and Security Branch who dealt with
cross-border activities.
Q. Can you recall how you were informed of Mr. O'Dea's visit? 321
A. I would expect it was a telephone call from him.
Q. And did Mr. O'Dea outline the remit of his visit? 322
A. No, it wasn't quite as official as that. He just came up,
"I want to interview everybody who was in the station",
starting with me.
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Q. And did you discuss the possibility of a leak at that 323
stage?
A. No, we didn't. I think, as I said previously to
Mr. Dillon, while that may have been one of the things that
was being looked into, it wasn't the foremost and the
purpose of the visit, as I envisaged it, was that he would
interview everyone in the station and establish a picture
of the events that led up to the shootings.
Q. You informed My Learned Friend, Mr. Dillon, that the 324
possibility of a leak was a consideration at that time.
That was your evidence?
A. The possibility would have been there, yes. It's one of
the possibilities, yes.
Q. And when Mr. O'Dea then arrived for the purpose of his 325
investigation, did you discuss this consideration of a mole
or a leak?
A. You must bear in mind that when Mr. O'Dea arrived, he knew
nothing about the events other than what he had read in the
papers or what I had, what information I had passed on on
the night of the killings. So...
Q. Going back to my question: When Mr. O'Dea arrived, did you 326
discuss the consideration of a mole?
A. No, not specifically.
Q. Well, what does that mean? 327
A. It means he didn't say to me, "Well, we want to find out
the mole." I don't think he came with a predetermined
approach to the investigation. As I said on numerous
occasions to the Tribunal, that he came to find out the
entire circumstances of the events that led up to their
visit to the station, that would have included the prior
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arrangements for the visit, the visit itself, what
transpired in the station, who they met, when they left and
how they left.
Q. And it's correct that you compiled a list for Mr. O'Dea? 328
A. He had assistants with him, I think he had an Inspector
Carty at the time, and I think between them they made their
own arrangements. You must bear in mind that I was just
another one of those officers in the station of all ranks
who were being investigated. I didn't enjoy any special
privilege or was I any part of their investigation.
Q. Just going back to the question, did you compile a list? 329
A. No.
Q. No? Subject to the record before the Tribunal --330
A. I didn't --
Q. -- Mr. O'Dea said you did provide him with a list? 331
A. No, I didn't provide him with a list as such, he would have
made his own inquiries because there are various
departments within the station, they would have to be
contacted and the names of members of the Force and
civilians who were in the station on duty at the time would
have to be established. I didn't do that for him.
Q. Mr. O'Dea's evidence was that you provided him with a list 332
and he went through the list and spoke to those witnesses.
Do you dispute that?
A. If I did, it was given to me by somebody else, because I
certainly didn't go around the station inquiring in the
various offices who was there. It may be that somebody
within my staff compiled such a list and gave it to me and
I gave it to him.
Q. Well, let's just try and be clear. When he contacted you 333
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the night before, the day before indicating that he was
going to arrive for an investigation and he wanted to speak
to everyone that was on duty, did you direct one of your
staff members to compile a list?
A. I don't have any recollection of that. As far as Mr. O'Dea
and I were concerned, he said he wanted to interview me and
the best way, he said, to do it was to take a statement
from me, and that's what he did. And after that I had no
further involvement with him.
Q. And Mr. O'Dea also said that he took the list, he went 334
through the witnesses on the list. You have no knowledge
of that?
A. No. As I say, if he was given a list, it had nothing to do
with me.
Q. He also told the Tribunal that he did not cross-reference 335
or check the journals or records within the station as to
who was actually on duty that day, he worked from the list?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you aware of that? 336
A. I am not.
Q. Did Mr. O'Dea ever come back to you and ask -- present you 337
with a list and say, "Would there be any possibility of
other Gardai being on the premises at the time?"
A. I never saw a list. I have no recollection of ever giving
him a list. If he got a list, it was compiled within the
station at some level and given to him. If he says I gave
it to him, it was because somebody gave it to me. I didn't
go round the station, which is quite a large station, and
make those inquiries. They would have to be made, but I
didn't make them.
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Q. When he spoke to you during your interview or when you 338
provided the statement, was the issue of a leak or a mole
addressed during that process?
A. If it was, it was included in my statement. If it wasn't
--
Q. Can you recall being asked about a mole or a leak? 339
A. No, no, I can't.
Q. And after your discussion with Mr. O'Dea, did you have any 340
additional meetings with Mr. O'Dea during the process or
during his visit?
A. We went to the funerals together, I'm not sure whether that
was the day after the statement or before it, but we went
North together and attended both funerals.
Q. And did you have any discussions about the investigation he 341
was undertaking?
A. No.
Q. None at all, none whatsoever? 342
A. We may have had a general conversation about it but I think
we didn't talk about leaks or moles. As I keep repeating,
the purpose of the visit and my interview with him was to
establish all of the circumstances surrounding the event.
And then as a result of that, the question --
Q. Mr. Nolan -- with respect, Mr. Nolan, the officers are 343
murdered minutes from leaving Dundalk Station. You have
told the Tribunal that at the time it was a consideration
that there was a mole or a leak, and is it your evidence
that that issue was never discussed --
A. I am not saying --
Q. Mr. Nolan, wait. Is it your evidence that that issue was 344
never discussed with Mr. O'Dea who came to investigate
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that?
A. It may have been mentioned and I am sure we did mention was
there a possibility of somebody having given the
information, but it was not dwelled on because neither of
us felt at the time that there was a leak within the
station and we certainly couldn't put it beyond the fact
that we wouldn't know until it was investigated. I mean,
it would be wrong to say --
Q. Mr. Nolan, are you not telling the Tribunal that both 345
yourself and Mr. O'Dea reached a conclusion that there
wasn't a leak, or you were satisfied there wasn't a leak
without performing an investigation?
A. We couldn't come to a conclusion until he had interviewed
all the people in the station.
Q. And that after that process was finished, did he come back 346
to you?
A. I wasn't privy to what happened after that. His
investigation was carried out by him and whoever he had
assisting him.
Q. Now, moving to the point of contact with Mr. O'Dea. If 347
this possibility of a leak or a mole was a consideration at
the time it would be logical to look to who within the
station would have connections with, or links with
subversives, would that be correct?
A. Would you repeat the question?
Q. When addressing the point -- you said it was a 348
consideration at the time that there was a leak. Would it
not have been the case that the first thing or a logical
step would be to look to the station to see who would have
a connection with subversives?
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A. That would be part of Mr. O'Dea's investigation, yes. When
you say "connection with subversives", I am sure every
detective in Detective Branch in Dundalk would have had
some connection with subversives, because that's how they
got their information.
Q. And you have given evidence about your impression of the 349
alleged or suspected involvement in smuggling by
Mr. Corrigan?
A. Yes.
Q. Was there anyone else in Dundalk Station that had a similar 350
level of suspicion or allegation made against them?
A. Not to my knowledge.
Q. So that's quite a unique position, that not only does 351
Detective Sergeant Corrigan deal with subversives, but he
has that additional air of suspicion regarding smuggling?
A. If there were others, they were not -- they didn't come
under notice to the same extent as he did.
Q. And on that basis, would it not have been logical to 352
mention that Mr. O'Dea should interview Mr. Corrigan or
speak to him?
A. Mr. O'Dea was well aware of Mr. Corrigan's activities at
that time, because only in the previous month I had written
to him, and you have seen the report there.
Q. Yes, that's what I am coming to. Surely with your 353
knowledge of your suspicions around Mr. Corrigan linked to
smuggling, which we have all heard evidence, that must
involve some permission or otherwise from subversives, did
you fail to mention that to Mr. O'Dea or draw his attention
to it?
A. I didn't have to do it because he knew it. But there was
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no history of involvement, moles or informants, I am happy
to say, during my time or, indeed, throughout, as long as I
remember, on the border.
Q. Mr. Nolan, with respect, the fact there is no history does 354
not mean it, A) wasn't taking place and B) it could have
gone by without being detected, and does not mean -- it
doesn't follow simply because there is no history that
there is no possibility of it?
A. It doesn't, but that was the purpose of the inquiry, to
find out. It could be, if there was a mole it might not
have been even the most obvious one who was suspected of
smuggling or who had contacts with subversives. It could
have been a civilian, it could have been the most junior
Garda in the station whose background or sympathies were
unknown to us. So that was the purpose of the
investigation. It was a thorough investigation and the
conclusion was reached. But to say at the outset in the
very first meeting between Mr. O'Dea and myself, oh it was
him because he is suspected of smuggling, that is not
enough reason to suggest that there was a mole.
Q. Did you discuss Mr. O'Dea's conclusion in his report? He 355
said he was satisfied there was no leak. Did he ever
contact you to tell you that was the conclusion?
A. Never. The only time I ever -- I left the Force two years
afterwards and I met Mr. O'Dea once maybe two years ago,
that would be what, many, many years afterwards. I met
him, I think it was at a social event, and I just mentioned
to him -- I think at that stage I had already met the
officials of the Tribunal and that was all. We never
discussed it. Actually, I now recall having said who was
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this person that they refer to? And he named Mr. Corrigan.
MR. ROBINSON: I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Robinson.
MR. DILLON: One or two matters arising, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN: I take it there is nobody else who wishes to ask
any questions? No.
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Q. MR. DILLON: Correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection 356
is when you last were here before the Chairman you
mentioned that you had been interviewed a second time in
the context of the Assistant Commissioner's investigation
in 1989; that somebody came up to the station at a later
date and took a further statement from you?
A. Yes.
Q. In the meantime, have you managed to recollect who that 357
person might have been?
A. Detective Inspector Carty, I think.
Q. He came back? 358
A. Yes.
Q. Was this a month or two or how long later? 359
A. I think it was fairly soon afterwards.
Q. Okay. Now, the issue of a list of persons to be 360
interviewed has been raised. Now, I appreciate the
evidence you have given, I don't want to revisit that, but
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I want to put this point to you: The list seems to have
included Garda personnel who came on duty at two o'clock?
A. Yes.
Q. That's understandable because the officers arrived after 361
two o'clock and were seen in the station by certain members
after two o'clock, but the appointment was made at
10 o'clock or 10:30?
A. Yes.
Q. Which is the earlier shift? 362
A. Yes.
Q. So, shouldn't, in your view, the list have included those 363
who were on the earlier shift?
A. It should.
Q. Now, you told the Chairman that you were expecting a senior 364
officer to investigate. Now, you had yourself a senior
officer, not as senior as an Assistant Commissioner of
course, but you had Superintendent Tom Connolly who was
carrying out an investigation?
A. Yes. You see everybody within the station would have been,
for the purpose of an investigation, be suspect, and would
require to be interviewed. So, rather than being
interviewed by a subordinate, the obvious source was
someone senior to the most senior officer in the station.
Q. Why should everybody be a suspect? A suspect of what? 365
A. Suspect, maybe that is the wrong term to use to describe.
Would be a person, a source required to be interviewed.
Q. But you used a very interesting phrase there, which was the 366
reason somebody had to come up from outside and you
couldn't use Tom Connolly because everybody was potentially
a suspect?
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A. I use the "suspect" in the context of an investigation. So
I mean --
Q. A suspect who is somebody who is suspected of committing a 367
crime?
A. It wasn't a criminal investigation, it was an investigation
to establish the events, the series of events. So...
Q. But surely Tom Connolly, in the context of his 368
investigation, could do that very quickly?
A. No, that would be most improper because he would have
been -- someone would have to interview him. Why would you
allow Mr. Connolly to interview me when he was in the
station himself?
Q. But this comes back to the point that there was something 369
-- there was a concern that something was wrong, something
was amiss which had to be investigated by somebody outside
the station, isn't that right?
A. Mm-hmm.
Q. So what was the concern that somebody might be wrong? 370
A. The procedure, it's an established procedure that those who
were, or could have been involved in any way would not
investigate themselves, and somebody from either outside
the division or a senior officer to the most senior officer
in the investigation would carry out that investigation.
Q. That's a very fair answer, because in effect it means that 371
in circumstances such as these particular murders, the
question arises was anybody in the station potentially
involved in them, isn't that right?
A. That was the purpose to find out, yes.
Q. That is the very point, isn't it? 372
A. Yes.
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Q. Now, there was some mention of the RTE programme, and I 373
think that you explained to the Chairman, when we went
through your report of the 16th February, 1989, that your
information about it came from a report from the Chief
Superintendent in Drogheda on a particular Drogheda file of
1987. I think you pointed out that that predated your
arrival in Dundalk and that was the source of your
information?
A. Yes.
Q. Because I did ask you about Vincent Rowan and you said no, 374
he hasn't spoken to you about it?
A. No.
Q. Right. Now, it was put to you that Mr. Corrigan's breaches 375
were minor. Now, there are just two matters arising from
that. It's quite clear from the correspondence, it's quite
clear from your evidence that you applied yourself to the
transfer of Owen Corrigan out of Dundalk Station. The
energy that you applied to this activity suggests that what
you were concerned about was something more than a minor
breach?
A. Yes.
Q. Is that right? 376
A. Yes.
Q. And I think you have explained that there was a broader 377
background in which you were, in which you placed your
considerations?
A. Yes.
Q. But that said, the improper use, or the unauthorised use of 378
patrol cars, in one case proven, in another case alleged,
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sounding too harsh, they are matters of honesty or
dishonesty, isn't that right? It was dishonest?
A. Yes.
Q. And is that really a minor matter, dishonesty on the part 379
of a policeman?
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Mr. Dillon is now cross-examining the
witness. I asked the witness a question. He said and he
agreed with me that they are minor matters. Mr. Dillon is
trying to cross-examine him to get an answer he would
prefer. And I am concerned, Sir, that it reveals on the
part of your counsel a certain agenda in respect of my
client. The breach of discipline is there. It was not a
breach of discipline for dishonesty. It was a breach of
discipline for unauthorised use of a car and alteration of
a logbook. He was fined £150 for it. That stands for
itself.
CHAIRMAN: And you suggested that that was minor.
Mr. Dillon is trying to expand this matter to question what
is really minor and what isn't. I think he is entitled to
do that.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: The witness agreed with me it was minor.
Q. MR. DILLON: I am putting an extra dimension to the issue 380
to see what your attitude is.
A. In the scale of offences that could be committed,
disciplinary offences that could be committed, it would not
be on the higher level, and I think that would be shown by
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the amount of the penalty imposed, which would be less
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Q. Very good. 381
A. It wouldn't be regarded as a very serious...
Q. That's fine. Now, just two matters remaining. The first 382
is, it was put to you that in fairness, the allegation
against Mr. Corrigan in the second or the last disciplinary
inquiry, if I can put it that way, was never borne home
because the inquiry never concluded its work?
A. Yes.
Q. Isn't that right? But I think the position is the inquiry 383
was in a position to carry out its duties, and the reason
it didn't was because Mr. Corrigan reported sick, as it
were, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Very well. Now, have you any information that suggests 384
that Mr. Corrigan was in any way compromised in his
dealings with subversives?
A. No, I haven't.
MR. DILLON: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. We have overrun one
o'clock by a few minutes.
MR. VALENTINE: The next witness is a retired RUC officer
who has been granted anonymity. In those circumstances,
since arrangements have to be put in place, I suggest the
full hour. Perhaps if the Tribunal would rise until ten
past two?
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CHAIRMAN: Ten past two. Thank you very much.
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THE TRIBUNAL CONTINUED AFTER LUNCH AS FOLLOWS:
CHAIRMAN: I think Mr. Valentine is taking this next
witness, isn't that so?
MR. VALENTINE: Yes, Chairman, that's correct.
CHAIRMAN: We need the Court cleared while he takes his
seat because he is giving under behind the screen.
MR. VALENTINE: That's correct, Chairman, he is Witness 27.
CHAIRMAN: By the way, the matter which I had intended to
make a ruling on now, I would like a little more time to
prepare my ruling. Events have overtaken me in that it
hasn't been possible to schedule the witness for tomorrow
afternoon as we originally intended, so the matter loses
its urgency in that sense, but I will give my decision as
soon as I can well in time before he gives evidence.
MR. VALENTINE: Very good, Chairman.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Durack, is that all right?
MR. DURACK: Yes.
MR. DILLON: The first witness tomorrow morning is dealing
with the same file, that is Mr. Fergus Doggett.
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
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MR. DILLON: I am not aware that there is anything in the
papers that he put together that could be described as
attracting a claim of privilege, but it is not up to me to
make that...
CHAIRMAN: Maybe not. Maybe so, maybe not. If we are
faced with it, well then we would have to deal with that
when it arises.
MR. DILLON: Do you wish to maintain Mr. Doggett for
tomorrow?
CHAIRMAN: I think we do.
MR. DILLON: Yes, I think we do.
MR. VALENTINE: Thank you, Chairman, it only remains then
to clear the Court.
CHAIRMAN: If all members of the public will be very good
and just leave the courtroom for the moment. You will be
called back before the witness gives evidence. Thank you
very much.
MR. VALENTINE: Sorry, Chairman, the public haven't been
called back in yet.
CHAIRMAN: Oh, I am sorry. They can come in while he is
being sworn.
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(Members of the public return to the hearing room.)
MR. VALENTINE: Chairman the next witness is a retired RUC
officer and it is a Witness 27. Before the witness takes
the oath, I would like to register the presence of Ms.
Crawford, the witness's solicitor, who has an application.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, Ms. Crawford?
MS. CRAWFORD: I am instructed on behalf of this witness.
I am from Edward & Company Solicitors, in Belfast. I have
an application in due course, if that is acceptable.
CHAIRMAN: Certainly. Not one you wish to make now?
MS. CRAWFORD: Not now, Sir.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much.
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WITNESS 27, HAVING BEEN SWORN, WAS EXAMINED BY
MR. VALENTINE AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. VALENTINE: Witness 27, I just, first of all, want to 385
confirm that you have before you a cipher list of the names
and corresponding witness numbers of other RUC, former RUC
officers who have given information to the Tribunal?
A. I do.
Q. Very good. Perhaps you might like to begin by outlining to 386
the Chairman your career in the RUC?
A. Chairman, I joined the RUC in 1966 and I spent six months
training in Enniskillen before being posted to Limavady as
a constable. I remained there for two years before being
transferred to Armagh in 1968, and then in 1969 to Belfast.
I then spent a year in Lurgan before I was transferred to
Derry in 1972, on promotion to Sergeant. After five months
there I was given a temporary transfer to Magherafelt to
replace a Sergeant who had been shot. I remained there
until 1976 when I was promoted to Detective Inspector and
transferred to Belfast. I served there for four years
before being promote d to Detective Chief Inspector and
transferred to Newry in 1980. In 1981 I returned to
Belfast, where I remained until promoted to Superintendent
on appointment as Head of Computer Services Department in
1984. During early 1987 I was appointed Uniformed
Commander of Newry and South Armagh, and in 1988 I was
promoted Chief Superintendent and deputy to the Assistant
Chief Constable of the border zone.
Q. And it was, I think, shortly after that and shortly after 387
the killings which are the subject matter of this Inquiry,
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that the perceived security threat to you was such that you
had to leave Northern Ireland, isn't that correct?
A. I was informed that nobody could protect me from the
security services and that I was domiciled to England.
Q. And in those circumstances, I should say we are 388
particularly grateful for your cooperation and for your
presence here today. There are just a number of periods of
your service which I will touch on during the examination,
a number of periods which are of particular relevance: the
period from 1980 to 1981, and I am correct that during that
period you served as Detective Inspector Special Branch in
Newry and that meant that you were effectively the head of
Special Branch in Newry police station?
A. And South Armagh.
Q. During the period '81 to '84 you worked for Special Branch 389
at RUC Headquarters in Knock Road, Belfast, is that
correct?
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And for a brief period you then came out of Special Branch 390
and into Uniform Branch and you were the senior uniform
police officer in Newry in 1988, '87 to '88, is that
correct?
A. That's correct, Sir.
Q. Yes. And subsequently you then became a deputy to the 391
Assistant Chief Constable border zone. Can you first of
all explain, is that a uniform or Special Branch role?
A. It is neither. It's a combined role of uniform and liaison
and plain clothes, obviously, because of the number of
times it you would have to cross the border or meet with
senior officials from the Government and so on. So, it was
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a haggard sort of a job, nothing to do with Special Branch,
in a sense.
Q. Nothing to do with Special Branch but not plain uniform 392
either?
A. Not plain uniform.
Q. Can you explain when this post of a Assistant Chief 393
Constable border zone was created and the circumstances in
which it was created?
A. Well, following the Anglo-Irish Agreement, Sir, which I
think was 1984, the then Prime Minister of the UK, Margaret
Thatcher, decided to form the border zone and a new brigade
of the military, Three Brigade, and the border zone
consisted of the entire border, one side to the other, with
about 12 miles back into the north in area. And in that
area the military directed all operations along the border
with the consultation with the RUC, the Assistant Chief
Constable and the Bridageer were equal in rank in a sense,
and it was a combination. The RUC had primacy and directed
and advised the army on what acts and what steps to take.
Q. So, during your period when you were deputy to the ACC 394
border zone, you had responsibility for an area that
stretched right around from South Down to?
A. To Derry.
Q. From Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone and Derry? 395
A. That's correct.
Q. Can you explain the interrelationship between the border 396
zone ACC and the divisional police officers? Was there --
what was the relationship, for example, between the ACC
Rural East and the ACC for the border zone?
A. The ACC Rural East was responsible for the police divisions
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within that area. He had command, uniform command,
operational command on the ground. We, in the border zone,
had the capacity to advise and to consult and to coordinate
the entire border because there were two ACCs in the border
region, but we had an oversight of everything and so we
kept the thing flowing.
Q. Could you explain where the role of Border Superintendent 397
fits into the structure? Border Superintendent Bob
Buchanan was one of the board Superintendents?
A. That's correct. It was quite an anomaly, the Border
Superintendents, and from my recollection they were created
to improve the dialogue between An Garda Síochána and the
RUC on basically on a daily basis. They didn't have any
executive authority in terms of operations, from my
recollection. And they also liaised very closely with the
RUC commanders on the northern side.
Q. From previous evidence there seems to be some uncertainty 398
to whom Bob Buchanan reported as Border Superintendent.
Who was his immediate superior, can you shed any light on
that?
A. Well, I would have considered that it was Headquarters was
the creator of the post and Headquarters were -- he was
answerable to Headquarters, and through the various
channels obviously because we had a hierarchical structure,
would have gone through the Assistant Chief Constable Rural
up to the Deputy Chief or the Assistant Chief Constable.
Q. Even though he was a Superintendent in Harry Breen's 399
division, Division H, his immediate superior wasn't Harry
Breen?
A. No, no.
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Q. And even though you were Deputy to the ACC for the border 400
zone, his immediate superior wasn't you either?
A. It wasn't me, no. In theory and rank, bearing in mind the
hierarchical structure, in theory I was his superior but
not to give him day-to-day direct operational instructions
or directions. We did liaise, however, on a daily basis.
Q. When you were serving as deputy to the ACC border zone, 401
where was your office?
A. It was in Armagh.
Q. Whereabouts in Armagh? 402
A. In Dromad Barracks, which was adjacent to Gough Barracks
but it was the military headquarters, and I was co-located
with the military 3 Brigade with ACC, that is where we
operated.
Q. Yes. 403
A. But we also had direct access to all the police
establishments, obviously, and frequented them.
Q. Just to be clear. Dromad Barracks and Gough, what people 404
know as Gough Barracks were within the same command in
Armagh?
A. No, they are separate entities but they were adjacent.
Q. They were adjacent. And they were separate from the police 405
station in which Harry Breen had his office?
A. Oh, completely.
Q. And where was Bob Buchanan's office? 406
A. I know he worked from Armagh police station.
Q. And what you refer to as 3 Brigade, where was the 407
Headquarters of 3 Brigade?
A. In Dromad Barracks adjacent to Gough Barracks.
Q. And what rank of military would have been in charge of 408
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that?
A. That was commanded by a Brigadier which, in general
operational terms, is equivalent to Assistant Chief
Constable.
Q. Yes. Presumably, then, on a daily basis you would have 409
been in regular contact with the military? Did that
include the sharing of intelligence between the military
and yourself?
A. On a discretionary basis, but obviously for operational
reasons we were kept abreast of anything they gathered,
anything we geared. We had the security and safety of
numerous officers and the civilians of the public of the
area, so for practical purposes we shared, but not in any
great depth.
Q. What do you mean by the phrase "on a discretionary basis"? 410
A. Well, if I had information, for instance, from a very
delicate informant, there were very few people I would
disclose it to and only on rare occasions, if it was in the
interests of the exigencies of safety and security, would I
directly tell the military. I certainly wouldn't tell them
the source of the information.
Q. And presumably also, as deputy to the ACC border zone, you 411
also had a role in liaising with An Garda Síochána?
A. Absolutely. That was in the raison d'être for my position
there.
Q. Did that involve you crossing the border on a frequent 412
basis?
A. Amazingly frequently. But that was not new because, as a
commander and as head of Special Branch in Newry at one
time an commander in Newry, it was a daily fact of life
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that we crossed the border and we discussed. We had to.
Q. There has been some evidence that has expressed surprise of 413
how frequently Bob Buchanan crossed the border, taking that
information from his diary. Does it come as a surprise to
you that he may have been going south on a weekly basis?
A. Not remotely. I would have expected. That was his job.
To digress slightly, crossing the border was always an
issue but the methodology we used was always very pertinent
to our safety and our security.
Q. I will come on to that methodology in due course and I will 414
come back to the earlier periods of your service but I want
to turn now to the events leading up to the deaths of Chief
Superintendent Breen and Superintendent Buchanan in 1989.
I think you attended a function at Stormont Castle in the
presence of the Secretary of State, Tom King, isn't that
correct.
A. That's correct, it was a supper.
Q. And I think you recall that as having taken place on the 415
evening of Thursday the 15th of March.
A. Yes... Wednesday.
Q. Sorry, Thursday the -- Wednesday, the evening of Wednesday 416
the 15th March, my apologies.
A. Yes.
Q. I am just going to in fact ask Mr. Mills to put on the 417
overhead projector the entry for that day. Can you explain
to the Chairman what occurred at that dinner? First of
all, who was present at the dinner?
A. Harry Breen and myself were present and Harry Breen picked
me up from my home and brought me there. At the table were
two army officers who were operating in south Armagh,
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commanders of the local regiment, local battalion, they
hadn't been in the province terribly long. Tom King,
Secretary of State, was head of the table and he had his
personal assistant there, a male, who did a prodigious
amount of notes during the conversations we had.
Q. And can you remember the conversation that occurred in the 418
course of that dinner?
A. Well, there was general conversation about policing the
border and so on, and at one stage one of the military
officers described how they had observed lots of activity
in the region of a border farm complex which they suspected
was related to terrorism or illegal activities; that was
discussed in great detail.
Q. Can you explain how the dinner came about, who invited you 419
to it or do you recall that?
A. Probably through some of the officials at Stormont by
telephone inviting us to super. It wasn't unusual to
invite -- to be invited, working in the border area, two
senior officials in the Government, to discuss what was
happening, what was.
Q. Was it unusual for, for example a Chief Superintendent for 420
the border area to be there without his superior, the
Assistant Chief Constable or the Chief Constable John
Hermon, to be there at such an event?
A. Absolutely not strange at all. Even as a Superintendent
Commander I attended functions with the Secretary of State,
so it wasn't any way unusual.
Q. And I know from the statement you provided to the Tribunal 421
that at this stage you say that you were acting ACC border
zone?
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A. I was.
Q. Can you explain why that was? 422
A. Well, Mr. Crutchly, the Assistant Chief Constable at the
time, I think was off ill. I think for a period of nine
months I was acting in his stead.
Q. I think that man is now deceased, isn't that correct? 423
A. He is deceased, yes.
Q. Just in relation to the date of this dinner, Sir, are you 424
certain that it was Wednesday the 15th of March?
A. Absolutely certain.
Q. I think what is now on the screen is your diary entry for 425
Thursday the 16th of March. If Mr. Mills just lowers it
slightly, that would be your diary entry. The 15th of
March --
A. I apologise for my handwriting, Sir.
Q. I can hand you a copy. That entry makes no reference to a 426
dinner, am I correct in that?
A. No, but it was the practice on my behalf to maintain in my
journal, which you see before you, basically official
duties connected with the operational end of my task. The
fact that I was on a virtually a social occasion with the
Secretary of State would not have counted in my mind as
duty, so it wasn't recorded as such.
Q. I don't think it is necessary to read that entry, it is 427
quite difficult to read on the screen, but you can confirm
that there is no reference to dinner at Stormont?
A. There is no reference to dinner at Stormont, no.
Q. I am now going to ask -- I am going to hand you an 428
unredacted version of the late Chief Superintendent's
Breen's diary and I am going to ask Mr. Mills to put on the
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screen the redacted version. And this is the late Chief
Superintendent Breen's diary entry for the 6th March, 1989.
And you will see the final reference the final line of that
reads "function at Stormont accompanied by..." and can you
confirm from the unredacted version you have before you
that that identifies you as the person who accompanied him
to that function?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. From this point. So he certainly records that he attended 429
a function at Stormont Castle with you on the 6th March?
A. That's correct, sir, but I didn't attend a function on that
night and it is possible that some officers had a habit of
retrospectively completing their journals and occasionally
they put in the wrong dates and the wrong days, and that is
the only explanation I can offer for that.
Q. Even if that were the case, the latest that Chief 430
Superintendent Breen could have retrospectively completed
that is two weeks later, because he died exactly two weeks
after that. It does seem unlike that, given that
relatively short timeframe, he would be so out on his
dates, would you accept that?
A. I can't answer for that because it is a matter for the late
Chief Superintendent Breen as to how he completed his
journal.
Q. But your recollection is quite clear that it was the 431
Wednesday the 15th that you attended a function with him in
Stormont Castle?
A. Absolutely.
Q. If I ask Mr. Mills now to revert to your own diary entry 432
and I am going to turn, now, to the events of Thursday the
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16th March. I wonder could you read that diary entry for
that day into the record, please?
A. "Thursday 16th March: On duty at Headquarters" that's
Headquarters in Belfast -- "Attended the Assistant Chief
Constable's post et cetera" -- that's correspondence,
general operational duties -- "Attended the Chief Officers
group" -- COG: Chief Officers Group -- that would be with
the senior officers up to probably to Chief Constable or
somebody acting as his deputy. "Travelled to Armagh via
Lisburn and attended meeting with staff from Newry and H
Division" -- 'H' Division was Harry Breen's command -- "re
customs with ACC Rural east" -- that would be Witness No.
18, I think.
Q. That's correct, Witness No. 18? 433
A. "Travelled via Newry and off duty."
Q. So that confirms your attendance at a meeting in Armagh in 434
the presence of Witness No. 18 on the 16th March. Do you
recall approximately what time that meeting took place?
A. I think we gathered at about half past two, the meeting
commenced about three o'clock. I left at five o'clock or
thereabouts. I see 17:00 up there on the journal, five
o'clock I finished, so I left the other people in the
office.
Q. And do you recall who attended that meeting? 435
A. Harry Breen, who organised it, together with myself, Bob
Buchanan, and ACC Rural East attended. The Staff Officer,
Alan Mains, was in the adjacent office and he came in and
out occasionally with papers, which we requested, and
perhaps with a cup of tea.
Q. Do you recall how the meeting was organised or who 436
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initiated it?
A. When Harry Breen drove me back from the Secretary of
State's supper, we sat in the driveway of my house in his
car for about 40 minutes discussing what we had been
directed to do and we made plans there, and the plans
included having the meeting on the 16th March and including
Bob Buchanan in the meeting with myself and Harry Breen.
Q. Why was Bob Buchanan to be included in the meeting? 437
A. Well, Bob was part of the trio of Harry Breen, myself and
himself because, we knew the border intimately over many,
many years and we knew it from many perspectives and, of
course, Bob Buchanan, very rightly, had the liaison role
with An Garda Síochána across the border so he was a very
vital part of the team.
Q. And I noticed you mentioned the arrangements of who would 438
be at the meeting you didn't mention the ACC Rural East,
how did he come to be at the meeting?
A. I presume, and I am only presuming, that he was directed by
the Chief Constable to become involved in the operation
which the Secretary of State had directed at the supper.
Q. Now, we have heard some evidence in relation to this 439
meeting before, Witness 27, and there is some dispute as to
who exactly was in attendance and who was not. I am just
going to put, there are a number of different versions of
who was there and who was not and I am just going to put
them to you briefly.
Witness 18 and his Staff Officer, Witness 6, say, like you,
that Harry Breen was present, neither of them indicate that
you were present. Witness 36 indicates, sorry, Witness 36
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indicates that you were present but indicates that Harry
Breen was not present. Harry Breen's own diary indicates
that he was on leave that day. And I just want to ask you,
are you quite certain that Harry Breen was present at that
meeting?
A. Absolutely and utterly.
Q. Do you recall whether ACC Rural East Staff Officer was 440
present?
A. Not to my recollection, no. And it would not be the normal
course of operational planning at that level that Staff
Officers would take any part in the actual discussions.
They would be briefed afterwards of the general tenure of
the operations but not necessarily even of the details.
Q. Do you recall whether Witness 36 was present? 441
A. With respect, Chairman, I can't see Witness 36 here.
Q. If I might just assist the witness, Chairman? 442
A. Yes, I see that's 18. Oh 36, yes. No, he wasn't there,
Chairman.
Q. Can I just pause at this point to ask you what your and 443
Chief Superintendent Breen's reaction was to the events
that had taken place at the dinner in Stormont Castle and
the operation that was now being organised on foot of that?
A. We were deeply disappointed at the direction of the
Secretary of State, Chairman, and I made it plain that I
wasn't happy with the direction for a couple of reasons.
Harry Breen was equally unhappy about the fact that we were
being directed by a politician, Secretary of State, to
conduct a police operation which both of us thought at the
time was ill-advised, and when we sat outside my house
discussing it, he expressed that a number of times to me,
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that we were both unhappy with the operation. However, at
that meeting we had the official direction from ACC Rural
East, which presumably came from the Chief Constable, and
we proceeded on that basis.
Q. When you say that you both shared the view that the 444
operation was ill-advised. Why was that?
A. At that time it was a very complex situation on the border,
Chairman, and the operation in question related to both
jurisdictions and it is extremely hard, at the best of
times, to mount a coordinated operation with An Garda
Síochána, Customs and ourselves. There was, at that time
in our judgement, no actionable intelligence which would
have warranted, at that particular point, an operation of
this magnitude, and we expressed that view to no avail.
Q. I am sorry, I didn't catch that. 445
A. To no avail.
Q. To no avail. When you use the phrase 'actionable 446
intelligence', what do you mean by that?
A. Well, information and intelligence comes in various forms.
It is sometimes historic, it's sometimes speculation and it
is sometimes rumour and gossip, and to mount an operation
against an individual and his premises on the basis that
something highly illegal is happening, we always strive,
strove, to be very precise in the accuracy and the veracity
of the information before deploying all the resources
necessary or causing the inconvenience to the target
individual. So, at that stage the intelligence, in our
view, did not warrant such a process.
Q. But are you saying that despite that view, because the 447
order had come from the Secretary of State, you had no
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choice but to comply with it?
A. Well, ultimately the order came through ACC Rural East and
presumably from the Chief Constable, so being of
subordinate, ranks, Chairman, we complied.
Q. On that point I am now going to give you the unredacted 448
version of a direction, and I would ask Mr. Mills to put
the redacted version on the overhead. This is a document
which -- with which the parties, I think at this stage,
will be quite familiar. It is the first page of a
two-paged document and I think, as has been indicated to
you, Chairman, before, unfortunately the Tribunal doesn't
have the second page, it has its own note of what it says,
the document did exist but unfortunately the PSNI haven't
been able to supply the second page. But just to go
through the first page of that, Witness 27, this refers to
an attached copy letter from the GOC, that is the senior
army officer?
A. The General Office Commanding.
Q. It talks about a matter being raised recently at the SPM. 449
What is the SPM?
A. Security something Meeting.
Q. Security Policy Meeting? 450
A. Yes.
Q. "The Chief Constable wishes a full report in the matter 451
including the garda view via divisional commander H" --
that is Harry Breen, isn't that correct?
A. Correct.
Q. "Chief Constable would also like to know if our procedures 452
for dealing with similar smuggling cases are adequate and
please treat as urgent." And that's a direction issued by
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S.O. to the Chief Constable, that would be a Staff Officer,
is that correct?
A. A Staff Officer.
Q. And it is issued to Senior ACC Ops and senior ACC(C & E). 453
Senior ACC(C) stands for which?
A. Crime.
Q. And E? 454
A. Special Branch.
Q. Special Branch. And I think that is dated the 15th March, 455
1989?
A. Which, coincidentally, is the evening of the dinner.
Q. Of the dinner. I think this goes in two directions. The 456
first is at the bottom of that page. "ACC(C) forwarded in
the absence of a senior ACC(C & E) on leave." So
effectively the senior Staff Officer to the senior ACC (C &
E) forwarded that onto the Assistant Chief Constable of
Crime, is that correct?
A. Correct.
Q. As I indicated to you, there is a second page of which we 457
have a note, and that is a note from Mr. David Crushley,
Senior ACC Ops, also dated the 15th March, 1989, and he
sends that on to Regional ACC Rural East, that is Witness
No. 18, and indicates "Please comply with points 3 and 4
above. Further report by 24th March, 1989."
Now, given that you are indicating that the Secretary of
State raised this matter at the dinner that evening, that
direction would suggest that the issue was already alive
before that dinner, is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Is that your recollection of how that -- 458
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A. I have never seen this document or anything in relation to
it before. But if I could give you my interruption of it.
Q. Yes. Please do. 459
A. The GOC would attend the meeting with the Secretary of
State and the Chief Constable, the SPM. The GOC would
obviously have been briefed by the two military people who
were at the dinner that evening about what they suspected
was happening on the border. And it would be entirely
speculative, the GOC, the military person, is making an
issue which the Chief Constable may well have not been
expecting and maybe taken aback, so he directed a full
report on the thing so that he could be fully briefed. The
Secretary of State then brings that with him to the supper
in the evening in order to proceed along his general
thinking.
Q. So, effectively, your interpretation would be that the two 460
colonels would have already reported this information to
the GOC at an earlier point in time. He raised it at the
SPM and then it is raised again for the second time in
front of the Secretary of State later that day at the
dinner?
A. Reading this very sparse document, Sir, that is my
speculative interpretation knowing how the system works and
how the hierarchy works within both the military and the
police and indeed, how the political machine grinds along
as well. It is purely speculative.
Q. Yes. Thank you very much. Turning back to the meeting in 461
Armagh on the 16th March, can you just outline what was
actually taking place at that meeting?
A. Well, Harry Breen and I had agreed that we would have the
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meeting to plan the way forward and that way forward
included the cooperation and planning with An Garda
Síochána as to the methodology we would use to mount an
operation. Also, we had the aerial photographs and the
maps and all the general stuff that we do have in planning
an operation, and we discussed those as well. We were
fully conversant on a day-to-day basis with the topography
of the scene of this particular premises, these premises,
so we were well briefed on that already. But basically the
thing was to get the joint operation moving to organise the
meeting with An Garda Síochána and to go down that road.
Q. And it was your understanding that a face-to-face meeting 462
with An Garda Síochána was an integral part of that
process?
A. Absolutely necessary, sir, absolutely necessary.
Q. It has been suggested to the Tribunal by Witness No. 18 in 463
evidence that at that meeting he gave a direction to Chief
Superintendent Breen not to travel south across the border,
that it wasn't necessary to travel south to meet An Garda
Síochána on foot of this request. Do you recall such a
direction being given?
A. Wholly inaccurate, sir. No such order in my presence was
given and I have to say no such order could have been
given, given the role that I was detailed by Headquarters,
it couldn't have been given.
Q. Can you just elaborate on that, it couldn't have been 464
given?
A. Well, my role --
Q. Why not? 465
A. -- and the role of Harry Breen, the role of Bob Buchanan
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essentially and absolutely included dealing with An Garda
Síochána, whether that was physically face-to-face or by
telephone or by writing. Telephone discussion of an
operation such as this was wholly out of question.
Obviously writing was out of the question because of the
urgency, and it was totally necessary to meet face-to-face.
That was our role every day of the week. If necessary,
cross the border, if necessary meet the Garda Siochana
face-to-face. So, nowhere in my history on the border of
many, many years did I ever see a direction contrary to
that philosophy.
Q. Was there a discussion at the meeting as to how the meeting 466
in Dundalk would be arranged or who was to arrange it?
A. Well, it was left -- Harry Breen was the commander of 'H'
Division, the board division, and essentially he had the
role of dealing directly with An Garda Síochána
operationally, and it was his. It was left to Harry to go
ahead because he knew the Chief Superintendent on a
personal basis in Dundalk, as I did as well, but it was no
big issue to -- many meetings were arranged on this basis.
Q. And at the meeting on the 16th, was there a discussion of 467
when the meeting with Chief Superintendent Nolan would take
place?
A. It was discussed and it couldn't have possibly taken place
on the Friday because it was St. Patrick's Day, so it was
left to Harry whether it was done over the weekend or we
agreed that the meeting should take place as early as
possible, which was the Monday, but...
Q. So when you left the meeting it was your understanding 468
that?
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A. Harry Breen would make arrangements with the Chief
Superintendent in Dundalk.
Q. For a meeting to take place on Monday? 469
A. Yes.
Q. Were you yourself on leave on St. Patrick's Day? 470
A. I was, I was off.
Q. And did you have any discussions with Harry Breen between 471
the meeting of the 16th March and Monday morning the 20th
March?
A. No, not that I can recall. We very often did speak and it
wasn't a memorable occasion if we did speak on a Saturday
or Sunday so, I have no recollection of speaking to him
over the weekend.
Q. Can we now turn to Monday the 20th March. I will ask Mr. 472
Mills just to turn to your diary entry which is just on the
second page of the diary entries that I have given him, and
to put your entry for that day on the projector. Perhaps
you could read that entry into the record, Witness 27? Do
you have your own copy which might be --
A. Would you like me to read it?
Q. I would like you to read the entry for that day, yes. 473
A. "Monday, 20th March, on duty at Headquarters" -- that is
Belfast -- "Attended routine matters. Travelled to Armagh
and spoke with Chief Superintendent Breen re customs
matter. Attended Brigade Conference" -- that is with the
military -- "Attended routine duties. Attended matters re
the murder of Mr. Breen and Mr. Buchanan. Spoke with
Newry, Armagh and Headquarters in respect of same. On
duty. Travelled to Newry. Spoke with Superintendent there
regarding the murders. Returned via Banbridge and spoke
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with Mrs. Breen and her son David. Released at 23:00
hours."
Q. Thank you. It has been brought to my attention there is 474
some feedback and possibly it is because your microphone is
facing the speaker so we are going to turn it slightly
around. You may have to lean slightly in to it, if that is
still manageable?
A. It is my accent, Chairman. Perhaps I should spell the big
words.
CHAIRMAN: We are used to that accent.
Q. MR. VALENTINE: Thank you very much, Witness 27. That 475
diary entry records that you spoke with Chief
Superintendent Breen on the morning of Monday 20th March.
Do you recall that conversation?
A. At approximately 9:25 he rang me to appraise me of the
arrangements for meeting with An Garda Síochána that day
and we were to meet at Newry and travel together from Newry
to Dundalk. Two minutes later the brigade major, who is
basically the personal assistant to the Bridageer, came
into my office and asked me, they were re-scheduling the
Brigade Conference from Friday of that week to Monday the
20th and as I was Acting Assistant Chief Constable he
required my attendance. I rang Harry Breen back another
two minutes later and I told him I had to attend the
Brigade Conference and we agreed that if I couldn't reach
Newry by whatever, a quarter to twelve or a quarter to one,
I forget which, that they would go on without me. My
meeting with the Brigade Conference went on to twenty past
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one and obviously Harry Breen and Bob Buchanan had left
without me.
Q. Was the Brigade Conference a regular meeting? 476
A. It was a monthly meeting and it was always held on a
Friday.
Q. Do you know why it was re-scheduled on that day? 477
A. I can't really account for that. Probably an operational
issue to do with the military.
Q. What was the Brigade Conference? What kind of matters did 478
it deal with?
A. Well, the Brigade Conference at that stage reviewed all the
previous month's activities in the border zone, addressed
problematic areas and planned for the coming month
strategically and tactically I suppose.
Q. When you spoke to Chief Superintendent Breen on the 479
morning, was there any reference to anyone else travelling
with you when you had the first conversation when you were
still intended to go, was there any discussion of any other
person other than Chief Superintendent Breen and
Superintendent Buchanan and yourself travelling?
A. Chairman, from the outset of this entire operation from the
supper, there was never any question that anybody other
than Bob Buchanan, Harry Breen and myself would attend the
meeting in Dundalk, never.
Q. The Chairman has heard evidence from Chief Superintendent 480
Breen's Staff Officer, Alan Mains, that Chief
Superintendent Breen requested him to accompany him to
Dundalk that day, do you have any recollection of that?
A. Absolutely inconceivable. This was a meeting of the chief
officers in the border area, both RUC and An Garda
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Síochána, and at that level a Staff Officer would not be
included. Not today, not yesterday and not tomorrow.
Q. Is it conceivable that when you could no longer go, Chief 481
Superintendent Breen said well, you know, there is just the
two of us, maybe we should bring his Staff Officer just to
have an extra body with him, so to speak?
A. Under no circumstances, and the fact that there were only
two instead of three was probably taking -- it was
probably, security wise, better to have two officers in the
car than three.
Q. Why was that? 482
A. Well, the more people in the car the more targets there are
for terrorists.
Q. In a report completed by the RUC immediately after, I think 483
the day after the killings, reference is made to the
subdivisional commander in Newry being requested to
accompany them and being unable to do so. I think they had
a discussion with him when they were at Newry station which
is where Mr. Breen and Mr. Buchanan met. Did you know
anything about that?
A. The commander of Newry?
Q. The FDC in Newry, yeah. 484
A. Well it is quite possible, I wasn't privy to that
conversation, but it is quite possible because he would
have had a very active part in it, it is within his
command, the scene of the intended operation was under his
command so it is quite possible that they had invited him
or asked him to go. He hadn't been that long in that post
to my recollection.
Q. So you attended the Brigade Conference. Do you recall then 485
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how you came to know of the deaths of Chief Superintendent
Breen and Superintendent Buchanan?
A. Yes, in the afternoon I was at my desk having a sandwich
and the telex machine in my office rattled away notifying
that there were two dead bodies at the border, and as a
sign of the times I imagined that the IRA had executed two
of their own people, that's the way things worked down
there, but when the number of the car came in I immediately
recognised it as Bob Buchanan's and I realised what had
happened then.
Q. And what did you do then after that? You can refresh your 486
memory from the diary entry which has already --
A. I don't need a diary. I notified all the people necessary
and the first phone call I had was from the Northern
Ireland office to ask what those men --
Q. Take your time, Witness 27, please. 487
A. Asking what the men were doing down there on their own, and
I couldn't repeat my answer in the Tribunal.
Q. I think the Chairman understands your intention by that. 488
A. However, I did -- I addressed all the operational issues
and the procedural matters in relation to and to the
families and... Sorry...
CHAIRMAN: Take your time.
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just want to ask you at any stage did you meet the Chief
Constable over that day or the following day?
A. I didn't speak directly to the Chief Constable but
obviously I had briefed all the senior people on the upper
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command that needed to be briefed. I didn't speak directly
to Sir John Hermon.
Q. And I think it was the case that you took over for a 490
temporary period, effectively, the function of Chief
Superintendent Breen as head of 'H' Division, is that
correct?
A. I did, yeah, and I also attended to the tasks of Bob
Buchanan.
Q. I think you also, in your statement to the Tribunal, 491
confirm that you attended to the lockers of the two
officers?
A. I did. I secured the office and I cleared their lockers
and secured their weapons and...
Q. The weapons, were both gentlemen's weapons were in the 492
lockers?
A. Bob Buchanan's weapon was in its original packing, it had
never been taken from its original packing when it was
issued years before, and Harry Breen's was in his locker in
a secured state.
Q. That was consistent with officers travelling south of the 493
border would not carry weapons?
A. Entirely. But it was also indicative that Bob Buchanan
never carried his weapon because he was a man of great
pacifying, peaceful outlook on life.
Q. Do you mean in both the north and the south? 494
A. Anywhere.
Q. Anywhere. I want to turn then, this is a matter that you 495
raise in your statement and it is information that the late
Detective Chief Superintendent Murray of Special Branch
gave to you subsequent to the killings. Could you just
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elaborate on that for the Chairman, please?
A. He indicated, Sir, that there had been quite a noticeable
trafficking of, air trafficking of radio signals that were
known to belong to illegals, terrorists.
Q. Did he indicate when that had been picked up? 496
A. In the early afternoon of the day of the murders. Around
lunchtime and onwards.
Q. And as far as you were concerned, does that suggest 497
anything to you about how the operation was planned?
A. Well, there were obviously people on the ground,
terrorists, actively involved in organising something or
communicating with each other, that could have been about
anything, it could have been about smuggling, it is just
the fact that they were operational on the ground. It
could have been planning an ambush, I don't know.
Q. So it may or may not necessarily have related to the 498
subsequent -- to the events later that evening?
A. It is absolutely impossible to be definitive about what the
transmissions because it was only technical noises, there
were no conversations overheard or anything, to my
knowledge.
Q. Do you have a view, Witness 27, as to how long it would 499
take the active service units of the IRA to mount such an a
ambush?
A. I have a very good idea. I worked on the border many
years. I had plenty of contacts within terrorist
organisations or their kindred organisations, and it would
not have taken anymore than half an hour to mount an
operation because they had several active service units in
the area and the orders to shoot or kill by whatever means
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any senior RUC officer, I think those orders would have
been permanently extant because of the high value of the
targets to the IRA. So, a matter of a few phone calls or a
few coded messages they could have mobilised active service
units within no more than half an hour. And I know there
have been contrary opinions to that, but having served
there at the coal face with terrorism, that's my opinion.
Q. When you say the orders were extant, am I correct in 500
interpreting you to mean that it wouldn't have been
necessary for the local active service unit to get
clearance for such an operation as this, because senior RUC
men were considered legitimate targets and therefore it
wasn't necessary to get clearance for an ambush on such
individuals?
A. Absolutely, Chairman. They would not have to seek the
permission of their senior command to carry out the
operation because of the nature of the targets.
Q. Do you have a view whether they would have to identify the 501
officers who they are targeting by name or would it be
sufficient that they identify the car as one of which they
knew RUC officers to be travelling?
A. Absolutely certain that with only the car, with only the
colour of the car and the make of it, even with false
plates on it, it is still the same car, they could identify
it and would attack it.
Q. Yes. Do you recall did you receive any information in the 502
wake of the murders as to how it was mounted, as to the
numbers of IRA men involved?
A. Well, I was given from a credible witness, anonymously
obviously, the fact that there may have been up to 32
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people involved and I think I learned from forensic,
correct me, that one of the weapons killed 17 other people.
Q. I think that weapon was linked, I think, possibly to the 503
Silverbridge killings? I might be subject to correction on
that. When you say that you learnt from a credible
witness, how was that transmitted to you?
A. Verbally.
Q. Verbally. Do you have a view as to whether or not the IRA 504
were likely to maintain active service units in place
continuously over a period in order to carry an ambush such
as this out?
A. Not specifically, but they were able to mobilise active
service units very, very promptly but they certainly
wouldn't, for instance, keep a 24-hour team on a road
waiting for a suspect car to come along.
Q. Can I just turn to deal with the procedures adopted by you 505
and other officers who were travelling south of the border.
Did you have a general practice in terms of routes?
A. There were many practices and many individuals used their
own methodology. Certainly if we went down one road we
generally would come back another road. On the other hand,
in my case, I very often took strange vehicles unknown in
the border area, unknown to me unconnnectable to me, and in
those cases I might drive down the main road and drive back
the main road simply because I was in a totally anonymous
vehicle, but different people had different methodologies
and there was no concrete method for it.
Q. How did you access those vehicles which you just referred? 506
A. Well, that is highly sensitive and I wouldn't like to
declare in this Tribunal how I did it.
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Q. Very good. Was there a pool of vehicles? 507
A. No, there was no pool of vehicles. The Police Service
didn't provide us with any vehicles suitable for the job.
We used our private vehicles for general duties, but
because of the risk and the severe risk of crossing the
border, very often in unfavourable terms, I had a practice
of acquiring other vehicles.
Q. But had Superintendent Buchanan wished to avail of a 508
different vehicle to travel south in carrying out his
function as Border Superintendent, are you saying that
there wouldn't really be such vehicles available to him?
A. No, there wouldn't. He relied on his own vehicle, as did
Harry Breen. But I should point out, Chairman, that I
spent quite a while on the border in a detective role and I
had a different approach to crossing the border than a lot
of people, so it is of no fault of the other officers that
they were restricted to one car.
Q. Very good. If I turn just to the events in the weeks, 509
first of all, in fact, the day of the killings of Chief
Superintendent Breen and Superintendent Buchanan. I
believe you are aware that a diary of Chief Superintendent
Breen's was in the car and was taken from the car?
A. A diary?
Q. Chief Superintendent's Breen's diary with a number of phone 510
numbers in it?
A. Oh, his little personal diary. All Superintendents got it
from the Association. Just a little fine diary, it was in
his inside pocket, that's where he carried it, and when he
was murdered they searched his body, I think, and they
removed the diary.
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Q. And did anything impact arising from that event? Was there 511
any impact on you?
A. That evening, the evening of the murder, I had five very
suspicious phone calls where the caller said "who is that?"
Obviously I didn't answer and within 24 hours -- my phone
was ex-directory anyway -- within 24 hours I had the number
changed and within another 24 hours the terrorists had
acquired my new number, my home address and the address of
my new car, sorry the registration of number of my new car.
And three weeks after that they -- excuse me -- they came
to bomb my house again.
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A. Well, that was the sixth attempt on my life, sir, and the
authorities at that stage decided that they couldn't offer
any more protection.
Q. Yes. I think at that point you moved to England, isn't 513
that correct?
A. Shortly afterwards. Temporarily. 20 years ago.
Q. And just for the sake of clarity, your address was not 514
contained, to the best of your knowledge, your address was
not contained in Chief Superintendent's Breen's diary?
A. My name wouldn't have even been in the diary. It was just
a number with no identification, presumably, beside it.
Not my name, not my address, that's the way we worked, you
know.
Q. It's your understanding that solely with access to your ex 515
directory telephone number, on the basis of that the
Provisional IRA were able to establish who you were?
A. Precisely.
Q. Where you lived? 516
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A. Yeah.
Q. And what your car registration was? 517
A. Exactly. They had a very efficient intelligence capacity,
capability.
Q. Witness 27, I just want to turn back the clock a little, 518
having dealt with the events of March 1989, to periods of
your early service commencing with the period of your
service as Detective Chief Inspector Special Branch in
Newry, and that is in 1980 and 1981, is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And in that capacity did you have dealings with An Garda 519
Síochána?
A. I did.
Q. Did you -- 520
A. Very regular dealings.
Q. Did those regular dealings involve you travelling south of 521
the border?
A. Frequently.
Q. And during that period did you have any concern about 522
Dundalk Garda Station?
A. None, none whatever.
Q. From a security prospective? 523
A. None whatever, other than it was on the wrong side of the
border for me, as an RUC officer, as soon as I crossed the
front line, the frontier, it was dangerous territory. But
apart from specifically in respect of the Garda Station I
had no concerns whatever. I didn't obviously frequent it
everyday of the week and I certainly --
Q. Obviously this period was before the Anglo-Irish Agreement 524
of 1985 which put cross-border security cooperation on a
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more structured and regular footing?
A. Yes.
Q. To what extent in 1980, 1981 was it the norm to share 525
information between the two police forces?
A. When I went to Newry in 1980 there was virtually no
cooperation, no dialogue with the crime branch of An Garda
Síochána in Dundalk and for the first three months I made a
number of attempts to make contact, and I had to take some
action to alleviate that situation.
Q. And what action did you take? 526
A. I drove to Dundalk Garda Station and I asked to see the
Detective Sergeant in charge, and I should say before, that
I consulted one of my predecessors in Newry as a detective,
he is deceased, Brian Fitzsimons, who became head of
Special Branch, and he agreed that this was the right
approach and he certainly supported me in doing it. I
spoke with the Detective Sergeant and slowly but surely
developed a form of cooperation and exchange of
information.
Q. Was that Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan? 527
A. It was, Sir.
Q. And was he amenable to your proposal of developing some 528
cooperation?
A. I think he regarded me with some suspicion initially but
gradually we came to some sort of a working arrangement,
and that was fine. And of course each meeting I had with
the Sergeant, or any other garda, or anybody, it is
recorded in my journal, it was inspected by my supervising
officers and signed off. So, on no occasion did I ever
meet anybody and it's not recorded and sanctioned by my
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senior authorities.
Q. So you were the head of Special Branch in Newry and more 529
senior people in Special Branch were aware that you were
having contact with Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan, and
at no point did anyone raise any concern in relation to
that at that stage?
A. None whatever. And they knew of every contact, and in fact
they knew when I submitted reports concerning operational
issues, that it was coming from a Garda Siochana in
Dundalk.
Q. Did you feel that you had a fruitful exchange of 530
information with Detective Sergeant Corrigan?
A. It was never particularly dramatic but it was functional,
it was practical, and it solved some of my problems, not
them all.
Q. I note that in the statement you provided the Tribunal, you 531
did say, you did treat Sergeant Corrigan with a degree of
circumspection. Can you explain that, please?
A. I can certainly explain that, sir, because in my past
experiences, and I have already described six attempts on
my life and numerous other things, I treated practically
most people with circumspection, so it wasn't anything
unusual and certainly members of other police forces were
treated, because we had a quite unique situation in the
RUC. In Special Branch we had an even more unique
situation because we were dealing with people who were
speaking to us whose lives were at risk, so we had to be
circumspect.
Q. And I believe that there is one particular incident 532
involving Sergeant Corrigan which you recall, and in that
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regard you have supplied your diary entry for the day in
question and I would ask Mr. Mills to put up your diary
entry, the third page of your diary entry, which is a diary
entry for the 27th April, 1981. Do you have a copy of that
in front of you, Witness 27?
A. Yes.
Q. In fact I might just perhaps ask you to supply the colour 533
copy to Mr. Mills, if you'd be happy to read off the black
and white copy it might be easier for the other parties and
the members of the public to read from the coloured copy.
A. Do you want me to read?
Q. Yes, I don't think it is necessary to read from the 534
absolute beginning. If you could read the references to
your dealings south of the border?
A. "Travelled to Dundalk and met with Garda source. Made
arrangements with a source" -- that was another source,
that was a civilian source, the second one -- "returned to
Newry and attended supervision duties, obtained necessary
papers for operations" -- not related to Dundalk or
anything-- "returned to Dundalk and met with the Garda
source" -- which was Owen Corrigan -- "out in the area to
meet the person" -- who was actually an informant who I was
introducing to Corrigan who lived in Dundalk outside my
jurisdiction, and for me it was very dangerous obviously to
go to Dundalk to meet him on my own. So we went off to
meet this informant, source, whatever. But we appeared to
be compromised by three vehicles which Corrigan recognised
as we drove to the rendezvous point he said "this is a
trap. Get out of here." So he escorted me to the border
at a rapid space and I drove to Newry, and by that time it
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was midnight, 24:00.
Q. So just to be clear, the first source, when you say you 535
went earlier in the day to meet your Garda source, that was
Detective Sergeant Corrigan whom you are referring to
there?
A. Yes.
Q. And you then went and met another source, and that was a 536
source that you had in Dundalk?
A. Yeah.
Q. Is that a source that you had met on previous occasions? 537
A. Yes. He was highly connected to the Republican Movement.
Q. Had Detective Sergeant Corrigan been with you on the 538
previous occasions when you met that source?
A. I had introduced him twice before. And the source had
agreed to co-operate in working with both of us.
Q. Is it fair to say that if you had any doubts whatsoever 539
about Detective Sergeant Corrigan, you would not have
introduced him to a source of yours?
A. I certainly wouldn't. Or anybody else for that matter,
Sir.
Q. And when you say Sergeant Corrigan then became concerned 540
about cars that were in the vicinity of the meeting
point --
A. Yes.
Q. -- that you had arranged with your source? 541
A. I was concentrating on the car that I was to rendezvous
with but he spotted two other cars in the vicinity which he
recognised as belonging to subversives.
Q. And he identified the risk and escorted you in his car, is 542
that correct, to the border?
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A. We changed -- we were in my car, he grabbed his car from
the station and we drove to the border, he followed me to
the border and I presume he may have been armed.
Q. And he assisted you in getting away from a potentially 543
dangerous situation on that occasion?
A. Absolutely.
Q. Subsequently I think you were moved, in 1981, to Belfast 544
and you served in Special Branch in Headquarters between
'81 and '84, is that correct?
A. That's correct, Chairman.
Q. And during that period did you have occasion to organise or 545
be involved in the organisation of cross-border operations?
A. On a daily basis, Sir.
Q. And were those cross-border operations organised between 546
yourselves and local police such as the Garda Siochana in
Dundalk or were they organised between, effectively,
Special Branch, Knock Road, and Crime and Security, Phoenix
Park?
A. That's the exact route, directly one Headquarters to the
other, Sir, almost to the total exclusion of local police
stations north and south of the border. They were excluded
from the operation insofar as it was practical.
Q. Why was that? 547
A. For the ultimate security of the operation because it was
highly sensitive. They were highly sensitive.
Q. So it was generally because of the sensitive nature and the 548
degree to keep things very tight. Was there any particular
concern about any particular local police --
A. None whatever.
Q. -- south of the border? 549
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A. None whatever. It was standard practice because of the
nature of the operations and the high sensitivity of them,
it was confined to both headquarters and the people who
operated between, it didn't go outside the units.
Q. During the period of the 1980s, after you left as head of 550
Special Branch in Newry in 1981, did you remain in contact
with Detective Sergeant Corrigan?
A. Probably on a very limited basis. I can't -- I have no
record of it whatever that I can recall.
Q. When you returned to Newry as the uniform commander in 551
Newry in 1988, did your contact with him renew in any
sense?
A. It certainly did because I returned to command Newry in the
aftermath of the judge and his wife and at a period when 22
police officers had been murdered in 21 months and it
required some very serious operational activities on our
behalf and I did seek, obviously, the assistance of the
senior command in Dundalk, Chief Super and indeed Mr.
Corrigan, and it was a useful interaction I have to say,
because during my command nobody was killed, which is a
terrible way to judge how the place is being run, but
anyway...
Q. I think in your journal it records that you met Detective 552
Sergeant Corrigan on the 28th February, 1989, is that
correct?
A. That's correct. It is recorded in my journal.
Q. Perhaps Mr. Mills might just bring us to that. It is the 553
final page of the journal entries. And that I think
confirms...
A. Yes.
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Q. Could you just read that into the record, the relevant 554
portion of that entry?
A. "On duty at Headquarters. Attended paperwork" -- etc,
courts or something -- "with the Assistant Chief Constable.
Travelled to Armagh, attended general duties, had meeting
with Assistant Chief Constable border zone and 3 Brigade
(Military) re the preparation of a joint report. Travelled
to Newry, then Dundalk, met Detective Sergeant Corrigan.
Returned to Newry and off duty." That was also witnessed
and sanctioned by my senior officer.
Q. Did you have a discussion with any of your colleagues in 555
relation to Detective Sergeant Corrigan after that meeting?
A. For some reason a detective, a close friend of mine,
Detective Chief Superintendent Frank Murray in Armagh rang
me about other issues and he said, "Oh, by the way, are you
still in touch with Owen Corrigan?" I said, "Yes I am."
He said, "Well, do you think at your level you need to
remain in contact?" I said, "Well... whatever." And that
was the end of conversation.
Q. Do you think he knew that you had recently met Detective 556
Sergeant Corrigan or was that a coincidence?
A. I don't have any reason why he should have known but, on
the other hand, I have no idea why he asked the question at
that particular point. I should point out, Chairman, that
after my meeting my journal was signed and witnessed by an
Assistant Chief Constable and certified as a true, accurate
reflection of my duty.
Q. Did Chief Superintendent Murray -- he is now deceased? 557
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Q. Di he express any -- did he express any concern about your 558
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contact with Corrigan?
A. He didn't elaborate on the fact of the question that he put
to me, he didn't expand it and he didn't respond to my...
Q. Did you consider it to be a unusual comment on his part? 559
A. Well probably not, because I go back to this hierarchical
thing, at that time was I Acting Assistant Chief Constable?
Whatever, I forget.
Q. You were acting ACC of border zone, yeah.560
A. Well it would be unusual to have direct contact with a
Sergeant really, and that is not being in any way being
supercilious about my rank or anything, it is just normally
we have so much to do at our own level that...
Q. The Chairman has heard evidence from a retired 561
Superintendent, Tom Curran from Monaghan, I don't know, are
you familiar with?
A. I am familiar and I attended many meetings with him in
Monaghan and I know him personally.
Q. Detective Superintendent Curran indicated that he had been 562
approached by Superintendent Buchanan and was asked to
speak with his superiors in Phoenix Park, that
Superintendent Buchanan expressed concern. Do you know of
any reason why Superintendent Buchanan would have made such
an approach?
A. I don't know any reason, and Bob Buchanan and I were
extremely close colleagues. He certainly never mentioned
to me, but rumour abounded in the border area on both sides
about Detective Sergeant Corrigan. But I should say,
Chairman, I have served in Ireland with the police, I have
served in England with the police, I have been attached to
many police forces in England, in Germany, in Belgium, in
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France I have been attached to police forces, I have
trained police officers from around the world, senior
officers, and the most salient point about each police
force is the rumour mongers and the rumour mill that
abounds and it was no less than in the RUC and no less in
An Garda Síochána. So Bob had heard the rumours, and Bob
was the most straight man I ever met in my life, honest.
If he had heard the rumours, he certainly would have felt
the duty to confide with Tom Curran, with whom he was quite
close, but the substance of the rumours or the source of
his information I am not in a position to witness here
today.
Q. In all your time on the border did you receive any 563
intelligence or any information that gave you cause for
concern about the security of Dundalk Garda Station?
A. From time to time I heard rumours, but I heard many
rumours, and fortunately for this country and our for
country you cannot convict people on rumours, so I didn't
give any credence to rumours. If they couldn't be
substantiated, if there was no verifiable support, I just
discarded them because life is too short to listen to
those.
Q. Yes. Just in relation to the incident in April '81, 1981, 564
once you were escorted back to the border, did you ever see
that source again? I am not referring to Detective
Sergeant Corrigan, but the source that you had in Dundalk,
did you see that source again after that incident?
A. No, my life was too precious. I didn't. I didn't even
attempt to. I just gave it up as a lost cause, really.
Q. Just in relation to the arrangements again for travelling 565
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south, it had been suggested by Mr. Mains that Bob Buchanan
was only drafted in at the last minute and he was
originally not supposed to go south of the border on that
occasion. Does that --
A. Utterly, utterly inaccurate. There was never any question
of anybody attending the meeting apart from Bob Buchanan,
Harry Breen and myself. And as I said earlier, there are
no circumstances where we would have invited a Staff
Officer, a junior Staff Officer to such a high level
meeting, and I also mentioned the question of numbers as
well. He would have been an additional number and an
additional target and that is at a very basic level.
MR. VALENTINE: Thank you very much, Witness 27, thank you.
CHAIRMAN: First of all, I should have said this before
when I ask for questions, automatically I see the first
person who rises, that I hope I am not giving undue
preference to anybody. So please, Mr. O'Callaghan, if you
feel yourself ignored, you will...
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: I always defer to Mr. Durack and
Mr. McGuinness because of their seniority.
CHAIRMAN: Well it is their wit that makes them so
noticeable.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: I haven't reached their wit yet.
CHAIRMAN: I apologise if I appear to --
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MR. O'CALLAGHAN: It is hard to get past them.
CHAIRMAN: Who wants to ask a question of this witness?
MR. VALENTINE: I understand the witness would like a
break.
CHAIRMAN: The witness would like a short break so I will
rise just for a few minutes.
THE TRIBUNAL ADJOURNED BRIEFLY AND RESUMED AS FOLLOWS:
THE WITNESS WAS CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. McGUINNESS AS
FOLLOWS:
CHAIRMAN: Now, ladies and gentlemen, we can resume.
Mr. Durack or Mr. McGuinness, which?
MR. McGUINNESS: I just have a few questions, Chairman.
CHAIRMAN: Of course.
Q. MR. McGUINNESS: Witness 27, my name is Diarmuid McGuinness 566
and I appear for An Garda Síochána.
A. Could you speak up a little bit?
Q. My name a Diarmuid McGuinness and I appear for An Garda 567
Síochána.
A. Yes.
Q. Can I just clarify a couple of matters about the various 568
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meetings from the 16th March onwards?
A. Yes.
Q. As I understand it, it was always the intention, following 569
the meeting of the 16th March, that yourself, Chief
Superintendent Breen and Superintendent Buchanan were the
only three that would go across the border?
A. Correct.
Q. As I understand it, you never heard any order given to 570
either of the men that they should not go across?
A. None at all.
Q. Did you hear any assurance sought or extracted from either 571
of the two Superintendents that they would not cross?
A. No. None at all.
Q. Was it expected of them that they would cross with you to 572
liaise with the Gardaí?
A. It was an integral part of their role and their command to
cross the border as and when required.
Q. Yes. 573
A. And nothing to the contrary was ever given to them, in my
knowledge, or to me.
Q. Yes. You have described your own practice in relation to 574
vehicles crossing and recrossing the border, but was there
any question ever of contacting the Gardaí and asking them
to conduct a risk assessment about any visit that you or
your other officers might make?
A. No, that was never the practice. I don't think it was even
in the vernacular at that time, risk assessment.
Q. Was it the established practice that whatever arrangements 575
for travel were to be put in place would be made and
decided by the officers who were travelling themselves?
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A. Yes.
Q. And was it the practice or not for those officers to inform 576
either a superior authority or someone in their office how
they were going to go across the border?
A. Normally it would be practice just to say I am having a
meeting with An Garda Síochána, the route would not have
been discussed, perhaps the rough timings may have been
discussed but certainly the route was a matter which was
decided by the officers themselves and it wasn't shared
initially. Sorry, Sir, it was up to each individual
officer to determine his methodology for traversing the
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Q. But do I understand correctly there was no requirement or 577
no practice for the officers to log or inform anyone of
their intended route there or back?
A. No, none whatever.
Q. Or would it be practice or a requirement to say when they 578
might be expected back?
A. Not specifically, no.
Q. Yes. They might decide to do that themselves, of course? 579
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Q. Yes. Now, there is some evidence which suggests the 580
Edenappa Road was out of bounds for some period of the day
of the 20th March. Were you aware of that at the time?
A. No, I wasn't aware actually.
Q. So, accordingly, but for your cancellation of your 581
participation in the trip you hadn't been informed at all,
or had you, that the Edenappa Road was out of bounds for
some portion of the day?
A. No, and the normal procedure is that it would be
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promulgated by telex that any specific road would be out of
bounds and, as a matter of course, it would have come to my
desk, and I received no such notification on that day that
I can recall.
Q. Can I just ask you about this: What way ought Chief 582
Superintendent Breen or Superintendent Buchanan have been
notified of that in the normal course?
A. Normally they would have received, their Control Room would
have received the same telex and it was the responsibility
of the Control Room to brief the entire station, all
personnel that road A, B, or C was out of bounds.
Q. Would they do that verbally, distributing the order?583
A. They would give it verbally and they would go to the
briefing of patrols. Patrols were usually briefed before
they went out on duty and they would go down the list of
duties to deal with and an out of bounds road would be
delivered to the officers in that respect. Certainly, it
would be obviously normal for the Control Room to go to the
Chief Superintendent and say "by the way, if you are
travelling, here is the route which is out of bounds."
Q. Yes. And obviously it is not possible to predict when a 584
road or an area might become back in bounds, but how would
notification of such occur, to your knowledge and practice?
A. Well, the secondary telex would say in respect to telex of
this date road, A, B, C, which was put out of bounds at
10a.m. is now, the out of bounds has now about withdrawn,
in other words you can traverse the road if you wish.
Q. Yes. And if an officer crossing the border had become 585
aware that an area was out of bounds, was there any means
by which they could learn or be told that it had come back
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into bounds?
A. No, because we existed, in those days, of an era of no
mobile telephones and certainly in our private cars we had
no radio communications either and there was no method
unless they were at a fixed point where somebody could ring
them by a land-line.
Q. Yes. Now, we have heard some evidence from at least one 586
witness that there was helicopters in sight as the witness
was proceeding towards the scene of the murder very shortly
afterwards. Were you aware of any helicopter activity in
and around that time, circa four o'clock, five past four?
A. Well, the initial response to a report of two bodies lying
on a border road would be the dispatching of helicopters.
Obviously you wouldn't drive to the scene because it could
be a setup for somebody else. Obviously you would dispatch
a helicopter to monitor the situation and to report back to
base so that a practical response to the incident could be
planned and put into action.
Q. Yes. I note from your evidence, and your Statement of 587
Evidence in particular, that you were informed by twenty
past four not merely of the fact that they were dead on the
road but that the car and the car registration had been
identified?
A. Yeah, absolutely.
Q. Do you know what means were done to do that? 588
A. Well, the first people at the scene, indeed the helicopter
would have sight of the car at the scene, but I think the
witnesses may have, when they telephoned the police, may
have given the car number. That is not unusual. It is
usually the first thing that a police officer taking the
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call would ask: "Could you describe the vehicle, please?"
"Yeah, KIB 1205, a red Vauxhall Vectra," no problem.
Q. I think you say in your statement that the IRA frequently 589
mounted illegal check-points in the area?
A. No, I don't think I said that. But they did. It is a
fact.
Q. Yes. I am just reading from your statement. You are 590
saying "Although they did frequently mount illegal
check-points in the area it is most unlikely that PIRA
would have mobilised for an entire week before the murders
on the chance that the officers would have come along."
A. That's correct.
Q. In terms of your knowledge of the IRA capacity and their 591
intelligence systems, I think during the period when you
worked in Belfast in Special Branch, you were there for
four years, is that right?
A. Three.
Q. Three. You were in charge of the E4 Surveillance Unit, is 592
that right?
A. Operationally, that's correct, yes.
Q. And you no doubt would have had perhaps a unique insight 593
into surveillance and counter-surveillance and how the IRA
acquired their information, would that fair to say in a
general way?
A. Generally fair, that's correct.
Q. And have you any doubt but that the IRA knew exactly who 594
Chief Superintendent Breen was well before the date of the
murder?
A. I would have presumed, and still presume, that they knew
all our identities and to the best of their ability they
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would have known the vehicles we used as well. That was
part of their -- they had quite an effective intelligence
capability.
Q. And you would be able to happily agree that the IRA would 595
have their own deadly interest in acquiring that
information, the names and identities of Superintendents,
particularly around the border, the cars that they
travelled in?
A. Absolutely. A primary aim of the IRA, and kindred
organisations I might add.
Q. And would you have any doubt but that the IRA were capable 596
of and probably had Superintendent Buchanan under
surveillance for some time?
A. Certainly his vehicle, and I have no doubt that they
probably were aware of, because they just have to stand
outside Newry police station and watch us going in and out,
or Armagh police station and they connect the vehicle to
the individual, and they also had the capability of
identifying the owner of a car from its registered number
quite simply, as he did with my telephone number,
ex-directory, so they certainly had the capacity to do it.
Q. The frightening detail that you have given to the Chairman 597
there that they were able to acquire your new ex-directory
number within a day, is that correct?
A. 24 hours.
Q. Yes. 598
A. And not only that, Sir, the registration of my car, which
was about eight, nine weeks old at the time.
Q. Would that lead you to conclude that they were able to 599
access perhaps British Telecom information or vehicle
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registration data, that type of material?
A. Absolutely, absolutely.
Q. Mr. Valentine asked you about the reported radio traffic in 600
the area. You were informed of that obviously by the
deceased Chief Detective Superintendent Murray?
A. Correct, Sir.
Q. You would be happy to presumably rely on that as reliable 601
information from your knowledge of how such transmissions
are surveilled upon?
A. He said there was activity, transmission activity, and I
honestly believed, he had no reason to say otherwise.
Q. Yes. We have had some other evidence of that, but you 602
recorded in your statement in the following terms: "I was
subsequently told by my late colleague, Detective Chief
Superintendent Frank Murray, that from about midday on the
day of the murders a high level of" -- there is a word
blacked out -- "activity known to have been generated by
paramilitary groups was recorded in the south Armagh area."
A. Yes, that's correct.
Q. We are talking about the area, therefore, a number of hours 603
before the murders were committed?
A. Yes, south Armagh is a big area, that's the problem.
Q. Yes. 604
A. So, he wasn't specific as to the precise location of it.
Q. Yes. But it is criss-crossed with many minor local roads? 605
A. A warren of lanes, roadways and some of which are only
known to the locals.
Q. Yes. You had operational responsibility, as I understand 606
it, at that time along the border, is that correct?
A. No, I didn't have operational --
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Q. Sorry, perhaps I misunderstood. 607
A. No, I was, as I say, co-located with 3 Brigade. I advised
3 Brigade, I coordinated operations with the commanders
along the border. I wouldn't go into Harry Breen's
division and organise an operation of my own volition. I
would discuss with him the need for an operation and then
he would take command of whatever needed to be done. And I
would then liaise with all the agencies in the border:
Customs, army, everybody else.
Q. Yes. You have mentioned Brian Fitzsimons, who I think is 608
deceased?
A. Yes, he was killed.
Q. I think he was killed in the Chinook crash on the Mull of 609
Kintyre?
A. Yes.
Q. We have a statement from Detective Sergeant Gethins who 610
said that Mr. Corrigan was very friendly with
Mr. Fitzsimons?
A. He was.
Q. Is that correct? 611
A. He was indeed, yes.
Q. And Mr. Fitzsimons, I think he ultimately became the head 612
of the Special Branch?
A. He was Assistant Chief Constable Special Branch.
Q. Accordingly, you would agree with what we have received 613
from Witness No. 2 in his statement, he said "In relation
to Mr. Corrigan, I know that he was friends with Brian
Fitzsimons and that Fitzsimons had previously found
Corrigan helpful." That would be correct, then, is that
right?
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A. To the best of my knowledge, and I had discussions with
Brian Fitzsimons on his relationship, when I joined Newry
as a Detective Chief Inspector, and he reassured me about
the possibility of dialogue with Mr. Corrigan.
Q. Yes. 614
A. And approved of it.
Q. Yes. Witness 8 says this: "Owen Corrigan could have set 615
lots of policemen up over the years had he wanted. I
trusted him and still would trust him now." Would you
agree with that?
A. Well, I agree with the context of the whole thing. He had
many opportunities and certainly he had more than enough
opportunities in my case in the dark of night, so I
basically must concur with that statement.
Q. Yes. Was any intelligence in relation to Mr. Corrigan 616
dating from 1985 shared with you?
A. Intelligence about him or his --
Q. His character? 617
A. Or his character.
Q. Intelligence about him. 618
A. There was some sporadic rumours, but that is not
intelligence.
Q. Yes. 619
A. A rumour can be from many sources and in police terms a
rumour never loses anything when it is repeated.
Q. Yes. In any event, despite your experience in the 620
different posts that you held, you were never warned off
Mr. Corrigan, is that correct, by your authorities?
A. On the contrary. Every contact I had with Mr. Corrigan or
indeed any other officer from another police force or any
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of my own, it is recorded faithfully in my journal and it
is witnessed by whoever happened to be my immediate
superior at the time, and that goes right up to Senior
Assistant Chief Constable, witnessed my diaries. So, I had
absolutely no problem in meeting and reporting the
meetings.
Q. All right. Just turning to another matter. Your opinion 621
in relation to the murders themselves, I think you have
obviously offered a view that it wouldn't have taken more
than half an hour, perhaps, for the active service unit to
scramble and be ready?
A. In the correct circumstances, yes.
Q. Would you agree with me that wouldn't exclude the fact that 622
they may have had prior information about the
Superintendents and/or their cars and routes, they may have
had that for some time?
A. I am not quite sure of the context of your question, sir.
Q. I am just wondering when you say they mightn't have needed 623
more than half an hour...
A. Yes.
Q. ...to get the active service units in position, you are not 624
excluding the fact that they might have had prior
information?
A. No, I am not excluding any possibility or any scenario. It
is just that if they were contacted by somebody and they
said "we need an ambush" they would have code words for
ambush and they would have code words for particular types,
if it was a senior police officer, they wouldn't say "I
want you to ambush a senior police officer and kill them,"
they would have various code words prepared in advance so
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the active units would very quickly mobilise and they would
know exactly what to do. In fact they could cover five
roads in that time and whichever road the suspect car they
believe went down, the target car, they could have engaged
it then.
Q. Yes. Your information, obviously you have told the 625
Chairman that you were informed that a large number were
involved and that came not from a Garda source, obviously,
but from your own intelligence?
A. Yes, that's correct, sir.
MR. McGUINNESS: Thank you very much, Witness 27.
THE WITNESS WAS CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. O'CALLAGHAN AS
FOLLOWS:
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Thanks very much, Chairman.
Q. Good afternoon, Witness 27. I appear for retired Detective 626
Sergeant Owen Corrigan. Is it the case, sir, that there
was no real co-operation between Dundalk Garda Station and
Newry RUC station before you initiated it?
A. That's not correct. There was no communication at
detective level, at crime, Special Branch level,
intelligence level. I can't speak for the uniform sections
of both forces, but certainly at the detective level there
was no direct communication. There may have been formal
communication through the uniform divisional commander.
Q. And when you initiated contact at detective level, was 627
Sergeant Corrigan agreeable to co-operating with Newry RUC
station?
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A. It doesn't quite work like that. Garda officers tend to
work on an individual basis face-to-face with one
individual and initially there was some degree of almost
suspicion, and that's quite understandable because I
bounded into his office and demanded to be speak in the
interests of both forces and both populations, and slowly
but surely, yes, we built up a dialogue, yes.
Q. And would it be fair to say that after the initial 628
suspicion that Sergeant Corrigan provided you with useful
information about the course of activities?
A. That's correct, and it is well documented.
Q. And he provided you with useful information on the 629
activities of the Provisional IRA at that time?
A. That's correct.
Q. And as time went on, sir, would it be fair to say that you 630
trusted Sergeant Corrigan?
A. I trusted him with my life because I was in his hands each
time I crossed the border, so... And at that time it is
difficult to rehearse in this Tribunal, the miasmic
conditions under which we all had to work and it wasn't a
simple matter of hopping in the car and driving to Dundalk
and hoping for the best. There was a dedicated effort by a
number of groups to kill us. So it must be put in the
context of the conditions we worked under at that time.
Q. You mentioned, sir, the events of the 27th April, 1981. Am 631
I correct in stating that you regarded those events as an
ambush upon your life?
A. Absolutely.
Q. And can I ask you, the source that you were due to meet on 632
that day, did he ever contact you subsequently and say "Oh,
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why didn't you turn up?"
A. No.
Q. Would you agree with me that that would indicate that in 633
fact it was an attempt on your life?
A. Well, I always regarded it on the basis of the reaction of
Mr. Corrigan, that we were both in danger of either being
shot or worse, yeah.
Q. Can I ask you, and it may be a difficult question for you 634
to answer but I will ask you anyway. Do you believe that
Sergeant Corrigan saved your life on that day?
A. Without going to the extremes, he probably saved both our
lives if the circumstances were what we believed them to
be. And the fact that the informant never made contact
again would lead to the suspicion that he had been turned
in order to set us up.
Q. That was the point I was going to make. Because if there 635
was nothing wrong with the rendezvous, surely the source
would have contacted you and said why didn't you turn up.
Would that be a fair assessment on my part?
A. Well, it is pure speculation. I am not in a position to
confirm it or otherwise.
Q. But in answer to my question, you believe Sergeant Corrigan 636
saved your life?
A. He saved both our lives. Bullets don't discriminate when
they open up with a submachine gun.
Q. I understand. That is very important evidence, sir, 637
because it's the first evidence that the Chairman has
heard, direct evidence of a member of An Garda Síochána
saving the life of an RUC officer. In 1988, sir, you
returned to Newry, isn't that correct?
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A. '87, I think.
Q. ' 87. And after that you reinitiated contact with Sergeant 638
Corrigan, is that so?
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And am I right in saying that the reason you did that was 639
because you knew previously he was a valuable source and
you wanted to reinitiate him as a source?
A. I thought the dialogue was extremely important given the
level of casualties, 21, 22 police officers in 21 months, a
judge and his wife, five young officers along the border or
four young officers blown up meeting a Brink's-MAT delivery
van, so any source of information or cooperation with
another jurisdiction was vital, and Mr. Corrigan provided
the avenue to that, although I did have good relations with
the commanding officers in Dundalk and the adjacent border
stations, Chief Superintendent, Superintendents and
Inspectors, so he wasn't the sole avenue of communication.
And obviously as the commander, the uniform commander, I
had very good access to the uniform officers in Dundalk.
Q. Were you aware, sir, that Sergeant Corrigan's position had 640
changed between the years 1981 and 1987 in that after the
Anglo-Irish Agreement a higher layer of detective officer
had come in over him? Were you aware of that at the time?
A. I don't immediately recall it but I am sure I was apprised
at the time of any changes in the command, sir.
Q. But in any event, in 1987, '88, '89, Sergeant Corrigan 641
still provided you with useful information?
A. Yes, it wasn't dramatic but on the other hand, it certainly
was operationally useful, yes.
Q. And Mr. Valentine took you through on the screen a section 642
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from your journal dated the 28th February, 1989, in which
you record that you met Sergeant Corrigan in Dundalk, isn't
that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And in your evidence, sir, I think you mentioned that the 643
Assistant Chief Constable would have signed off on your
journal for that particular entry, is that so?
A. I have his signature in front of me where he witnessed and
authorised it. It is here in my journal. Yes, of course.
Q. So, when he read the reference to Detective Sergeant Owen 644
Corrigan, he didn't say anything to you negative about
Detective Corrigan, did he?
A. At no time in the years that I worked with Mr. Crushley,
Assistant Chief Constable, did he mention anything
derogatory about Mr. Corrigan.
Q. And you mentioned how Frank Murray had contacted you and 645
suggested that Mr. Corrigan probably wasn't at a
sufficiently high level for you to meet him, would that be
a fair assessment of what Mr. Murray said to you?
A. Well, it could be interpreted in a number of ways and that
is just but one of them. He didn't elaborate on it and
because we were discussing it on the telephone I didn't
seek to elaborate either.
Q. It could have been, would you agree with me, that 646
Mr. Murray was not annoyed but would have thought it more
appropriate had you gone to the higher levels of the
Detective Branch for information?
A. No, I never viewed it in that light at all, never.
Certainly not.
Q. Okay. Would you agree with me, sir, that it is dangerous 647
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for politicians to be directing operational police matters?
A. Well, actually it is worse than dangerous. It is a breach
of all precedent in terms of the relationship between the
executive and the police force and the police force have
always jealously guarded their independence operationally.
Q. I detected from your evidence there, and correct me if I am 648
wrong, you believe that the origins of the, I suppose,
investigation into the activities of Mr. Murphy, Mr. 'Slab'
Murphy, that the origins of that were the statements made
by the Secretary of State at the dinner you attended on, I
think, the 16th March, is that so?
A. Well, I haven't mentioned that name at any stage in my
evidence so far.
Q. I know you haven't, sir. I am just filling you in. I 649
noticed you hadn't. The name has been mentioned here, so
feel free to mention it if you wish or just continue not to
mention it if you wish, whatever you are more comfortable
with it. It has been mentioned to the charm before?
A. Could you repeat the question again, please?
Q. Would you agree with me that it was at the dinner with the 650
Secretary of State that the decision was made to
investigate the activities of Mr. 'Slab' Murphy?
A. At the dinner, at the super I agreed and I felt that that
was the case, but having seen that document on the screen
this afternoon, there was obviously some discussion at the
highest level with the Secretary of State, the Chief
Constable and the General Officer Commanding about that
target, person, and so that has to lead me to reassess my
initial interpretation. If it had been discussed at that
meeting on the 15th, then perhaps the GOC and the Chief
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Constable both may have agreed that the operation should be
processed. However, the document on the screen merely
asked for a report on the activities of smugglers in the
border to be given to the Chief Constable. There is no
indication there that it was directed at that stage by the
Chief Constable. The first indication I had was at the
supper and the second indication was at the meeting on the
16th when No. 18, or whatever he is, Witness No. 18 said
that he had been directed to mount this operation which we
already had in hand anyway.
Q. And if it was the Secretary of State who initiated this 651
proposal, would you agree with me that it was ill-advised
and a dangerous proposal emanating from him?
A. I told him at the supper that that was the case, sir.
Q. And how did he respond to that, sir? 652
A. He thumped the table and demanded that I go ahead, and who
is a humble Chief Super to argue with a Secretary of State?
Q. Is that the reason, sir, that when you were contacted by 653
the Northern Ireland Office after the murder of your
colleagues, that you were particularly irritated that the
Northern Ireland Office asked you why they were down there
on their own?
A. No, it is not the case actually, because about ten months
previous there were two terrorists blew themselves to
pieces while planning to kill some security forces and I
was responsible, as commander, for organising the funerals,
supervising the funerals in order to prevent massive
disorder and it came to the stage of negotiation with the
clergy that during that week I had to drive into the middle
of south Armagh, which wasn't approved by authorities, to
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speak with the priest and to negotiate a proper decent
Christian burial without the trimmings of paramilitaries.
Harry Breen agreed to join me. We drove down there. As we
drove back past an IRA monument with numerous symbols of
subversion and destruction, Harry Breen said to me "If
anything happens us down here, the first question they will
ask is 'what the hell are those men doing down there on
their own?'" So, when it happened, that is exactly my
response. His question to me had been very prophetic.
Q. Did Harry Breen mention to you on the day of the murders or 654
on the day before it or in the days before it that he was
worried about travelling down to Dundalk because of certain
Garda officers?
A. Absolutely not. And Harry Breen was my closest colleague.
Socially we were close as well. We discussed the whole
operation after the supper in my driveway. The only
concern he expressed was what I have already outlined to
the Tribunal, that it was the wrong time, the wrong place,
and there wasn't enough intelligence, accurate intelligence
to support it. He expressed no concern whatsoever about
meeting with An Garda Síochána or at any other of their
stations. Nor during my relationship with him over the
years did he ever express such fears.
Q. And, sir, if Mr. Breen did have such fears or concerns, do 655
you think he would have shared them with you?
A. Well if Harry Breen thought he was driving into the arms of
death, he surely would not have asked me to accompany him
if he had any fear or belief or suspicion. So absolutely
not.
Q. Mr. Buchanan's car would have been easily identifiable to 656
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terrorists and the IRA, is that correct, sir?
A. Yes.
Q. And I think he had used it for approximately 30 months at 657
the time of the murder, isn't that time?
A. Two and a half years, correct, sir.
Q. You also frequently drove across the border. What steps 658
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you drove across the border?
A. I, invariably, sir, used strange cars, cars which could in
no way be associated with me or the police or the border,
and I sometimes travelled some distance to pick them up and
I did it that way. Occasionally I used my own vehicle,
obviously, which I changed frequently. And I occasionally
changed my number plates, but that was no great protection
because if you drive a blue Mercedes, you drive a blue
Mercedes, whatever number you put on it.
Q. Would you agree with me, sir, that Mr. Buchanan was at a 659
higher level of risk because he didn't change his car for
that period of time?
A. Well, I won't comment on the practices of Mr. Buchanan
because he was a very competent and very experienced police
officer, and how he chose to fulfill his duties and his
function was entirely up to him and I just wouldn't comment
on that.
Q. Okay, I can appreciate that, sir. And you mentioned in 660
your evidence that you learned from a credible witness that
there were approximately --
A. Sorry, sorry, I said a credible source.
Q. A credible source, sorry, I thought you said credible 661
witness. That source was an informant, is that so? I am
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asking about the source who told you that he had believed
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A. Well, he would have access to the general chat in south
Armagh.
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A. I had no reason to disbelieve him, sir.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Thank you very much, sir.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Any other questions?
MR. COFFEY: No questions.
MS. O'SULLIVAN: No questions.
CHAIRMAN: Ms. Crawford then.
MR. COFFEY: No questions, Mr. Chairman
MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Chairman, a brief number of questions
that may assist the Tribunal, subject to My Friend's
application.
CHAIRMAN: Certainly.
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Q. MR. ROBINSON: Witness 27, you have touched upon the 663
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character and characteristics of Harry Breen and Bob
Buchanan. Can you tell the Tribunal more about how these
officers operated and what they were like on a personal
basis?
A. Your Honour, they, first of all, were extremely experienced
officers. They were extremely familiar with the vagaries
of policing in south Armagh and the border area. They were
absolutely total professionals. They were entirely
honourable men. Totally honest and totally honest with
themselves and with their subordinates and indeed with
their commanders. Both religious men, I might add.
Q. And, Witness 27, certain labels have been attached to the 664
practice of driving across the border in the way that Bob
Buchanan did, and some of those labels would be a reckless
attitude to security or a lax attitude towards security or
carelessness. What would your response be to those
suggestions?
A. Well, Chairman, it is a fact of life that everyday we
literally expected to die, and if Mr. Mr. Buchanan chose a
particular way to traverse the border, in his own mind he
felt confident to do that, so I can't comment on any degree
of his risk assessment. He did it his way. The
authorities on high in Headquarters and in the Northern
Ireland Office never made any comment about how we crossed
the border or the fact that we even did cross the border
because I think sometimes a blind eye was closed to the
fact that we did it. They were satisfied with the service
they were getting to the police force, north and south of
the border, to the interdiction of terrorist weaponry and
to all other matters related to security. So, as far as I
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concerned, they cared not how we got it or how we crossed
the border.
Q. And if I can touch upon the necessity of the visits, 665
Witness 27. There was essentially no other way to conduct
this business, is that correct?
A. None whatever. Well, there was telephones were available
but the telephones were highly unsecure. The terrorist
organisations, without failure, had immense capacity to
intercept telephone calls. Postage was not reliable
because post vans had been hijacked and robbed. So the
face-to-face, and particularly in the environment in which
we worked, face-to-face communication was absolutely
important and the most practical.
Q. And it is correct, Witness 27, that a rapport had to be 666
constructed? You had to develop a rapport with your
counterparts south of the border?
A. Utterly, totally and utterly, because the practice was, I
mean we went to formal meetings which were instigated after
the northern, Anglo-Irish Agreement we went to formal
meetings, we went through the agenda and discussed all the
formal issues and no real information was discussed until
we were in the margins when people would talk face-to-face.
The other issue was, if an individual garda did not like
you, he would talk to you all day and tell nothing. If he
liked you, he would talk to you and tell you what you
needed to know. And I suppose, to a degree, it was the
same with RUC officers.
Q. And, Witness 27, if I could just expand upon a point that 667
you raise in your evidence. You said that a third person
in a vehicle would create an additional target?
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A. Yes.
Q. Following that logic, if, for example, an armed vehicle was 668
used or an armed police car was used to traverse the
border, that would be more noticeable, is that correct?
A. Not only that but they would blow it up.
Q. And also if, for example, Buchanan used an escort, that 669
again would be more noticeable, there'd be three vehicles?
A. That would be three targets.
Q. And following that logic, if a garda, if a garda escort was 670
arranged for the southern part of the border, surely the
presence of that escort waiting for the northern vehicles
would again attract attention?
A. It would be an indication that somebody of importance is
travelling, yeah. But of course the garda can use unmarked
plain vehicles as well, so...
Q. But again it could be argued that subversives would become 671
familiar with the unmarked garda vehicles in that district
or that division?
A. Well, there was very little happened that didn't go
unnoticed to the residents. As in most country areas in
Ireland, if there is a strange person or a strange vehicle
within the area, they would be picked up right away,
noticed anyway. I go back to the point that in this
Tribunal it is very hard to rehearse the conditions under
which we had to operate. The communications were poor.
There were no mobile telephones. There was an urgency
often in having to meet with your counterpart on the other
side of the border. You couldn't wait for a week to plan
an operation to secure the operation, you had to do it
there and then. And it is very hard to recreate that
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environment in this flaccid condition we are in here today.
Q. Certainly. And what I am trying to draw out, Witness 27, 672
is essentially the fact that Bob Buchanan travelled in his
own car, would actually have been less of a risk than say,
for example, organising an escort either from the north or
from the south and it was perhaps a quicker way to get the
job done under circumstances where he would be less
noticeable?
A. Well, I go back to your original point about traversing the
border and the number of people in the car. The number of
cars on the road connected with an individual of the police
would attract more targets. So, the risk increases with
the number of people, and that's why I always preferred
travelling on my own anonymously and in strange vehicles.
That was the story.
MR. ROBINSON: I have no further questions. I am obliged,
Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN: Any questions, Mr. Valentine?
THE WITNESS WAS RE-EXAMINED BY MR. VALENTINE AS FOLLOWS:
Q. MR. VALENTINE: First, one matter by way of re-examination. 673
Witness 27, what was the purpose of having your superior
officers sign your journal?
A. Well, my journal includes my hours of duty, my journal
includes my mileage, for which I claimed. It includes any
subsistence that I might claim and it also denotes the
people that I met, yeah. So, if anybody said "well, you
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are meeting a suspect," I would have said "I am meeting him
on business." The Chief, if he wanted to question my
meeting, had the opportunity every fortnight to do it when
he read my diary. If he had any reason to question my
mileage claim or my subsistence claim he could then and
there discuss it with me and explain it and then he signed
it off as authenticated, a true and accurate record of the
duties of this officer.
Q. And was it the case that it was primarily related to 674
mileage and subsistence claims?
A. No, no, no. There was a whole combination. We had a
disciplined organisation. We were not MPs in the British
parliament, so everything was supervised meticulously but
particularly our associates, you know, they were
meticulous. And as supervising officer, commanding
officer, I was meticulous about supervising diaries. Where
were you on that time? What you on at that time? If the
officer had met somebody twice in a week and the third time
that week he was murdered, I would have expected to know
that he was meeting the person, who he was meeting, so that
would immediately enhance the investigation into the
murder.
Q. So you are satisfied that your superior officers, when they 675
signed the journal, looked at the detailed entries and
appraised themselves of who you were dealing with and who
you had contact with?
A. They had that opportunity. Whether they took that
opportunity or not, it is up to them. But when they put
their signature on it, as is this one, that's it, they have
certified it. That's it.
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Q. Very good. I have been asked, Chairman, by one of the 676
parties with limited representation to clarify one point
with Witness 27 and it is this: Witness 27, the event that
you have outlined in relation to the 27th April, 1981, can
you just clarify again that you had met your source on two
previous occasions, is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. And was Detective Sergeant Corrigan with you on those two 677
previous occasions?
A. I brought him to meet Mr. Corrigan.
Q. On the two previous occasions? 678
A. Yes.
Q. This would have been the third occasion in which Detective 679
Sergeant Corrigan, yourself and this source would have met?
A. Yes.
Q. Thank you. 680
Finally, Chairman, there is just one question, it is,
strictly speaking it is not a matter that arises from
cross-examination but I don't think it is particularly
controversial, it is just a matter that I omitted to ask in
my examination-in-chief and it is this: When you spoke to
Chief Superintendent Breen on the morning of the 20th
March, 1989, the first telephone conversation at
twenty-five past nine, I think you said, did he say
anything which indicated to you when he had spoken to
Dundalk to arrange the meeting?
A. No, and I didn't question it because it was such a routine
issue.
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Q. So you don't know whether it had been arranged that morning 681
or over the days since the --
A. He had two or three days to do it, so I didn't.
MR. VALENTINE: Very good. I have no further question.
Thank you very much, Witness 27.
CHAIRMAN: Well, now, this witness has concluded his
evidence and he will be able to leave by the side door when
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MR. VALENTINE: That concludes the business for today,
Chairman.
CHAIRMAN: Well, I want to thank Witness 27, thank you very
much indeed for coming here today. I appreciate that
throughout 'The Troubles' in Northern Ireland you had an
enormous amount of stress. I don't think there is anybody
here present in this room who was ever attacked or an
attempt made on his life on six occasions. It is very
difficult for you to relive that traumatic period when two
people you knew well were murdered. I am very grateful to
you for coming and I am greatly in your debt because you
have assisted the Tribunal very considerably. Thank you
very much
A. Thank you very much, Sir.
MR. VALENTINE: The witness's solicitor, Ms. Crawford, will
have an application to make. I think that can be dealt
with in writing. Obviously the Tribunal will rule on that
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obviously after it is reported in the normal course.
CHAIRMAN: It isn't that urgent, is it? Very good. Well
then, the witness will first leave. The public will leave
so that the witness may now retire and I am told 11 o'clock
then tomorrow morning.
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allegations [5] - 18:8, 57:27, 58:14, 59:18, 66:12
alleged [9] - 9:11, 18:13, 27:23, 50:16, 55:22, 61:23, 62:25, 75:7, 80:29
allegedly [1] - 43:10alleviate [1] - 118:9allied [1] - 20:22allocated [3] - 7:13, 9:15,
32:14allocation [1] - 33:28allow [5] - 13:19, 35:2,
54:26, 58:25, 79:11allowed [2] - 30:29, 54:15allowing [3] - 15:6, 33:16,
34:28almost [2] - 122:20, 140:3alone [1] - 55:13alteration [1] - 81:15altered [1] - 35:30altering [5] - 6:30, 27:25,
59:4, 59:25, 66:16alternative [1] - 53:9AM [1] - 156:9amazingly [1] - 92:28ambush [9] - 47:18,
112:15, 112:24, 113:13, 114:10, 138:26, 138:27, 138:29, 140:27
amenable [1] - 118:22amiss [1] - 79:15amount [4] - 13:20, 82:1,
94:5, 155:18ample [1] - 66:14AND [1] - 128:12and.. [4] - 36:18, 40:13,
110:22, 111:13
Anglo [5] - 5:13, 89:9, 117:29, 142:22, 150:19
Anglo-Irish [4] - 89:9, 117:29, 142:22, 150:19
annoyed [1] - 143:25annual [1] - 23:24anomaly [1] - 90:10anonymity [1] - 82:27anonymous [1] - 114:25anonymously [2] -
113:29, 152:14answer [10] - 13:9, 23:11,
41:18, 79:24, 81:10, 96:22, 110:18, 116:5, 141:9, 141:22
answerable [1] - 90:23answered [1] - 42:11answers [1] - 42:21anyway [4] - 116:6,
141:9, 145:10, 151:23anyway.. [1] - 123:22apart [2] - 117:26, 127:6apologies [2] - 39:30,
93:22apologise [2] - 95:15,
127:30Appeal [1] - 23:13appeal [18] - 18:16, 20:1,
20:3, 22:25, 23:21, 26:16, 27:10, 29:24, 29:26, 30:24, 30:25, 30:27, 30:29, 53:6, 63:25, 63:28, 64:4, 64:6
appeals [1] - 38:11appear [6] - 26:12, 69:10,
127:30, 128:25, 128:27, 139:18
appeared [1] - 120:26appearing [1] - 49:22appellant [1] - 64:9applicable [1] - 54:14application [7] - 43:7,
51:1, 54:26, 86:7, 86:13, 148:24, 155:29
applied [5] - 27:12, 33:12, 45:17, 80:16, 80:18
appointed [7] - 8:1, 11:21, 14:30, 16:9, 17:12, 25:28, 87:25
appointing [1] - 16:8appointment [4] - 9:15,
20:12, 78:6, 87:24appraise [1] - 107:17appraised [1] - 153:25appreciable [1] - 25:6appreciate [3] - 77:29,
147:25, 155:16apprised [1] - 142:24approach [6] - 39:15,
44:21, 70:27, 115:15, 118:16, 125:23
approached [2] - 33:18, 125:19
approaching [1] - 9:11appropriate [3] - 15:12,
16:15, 143:26approved [2] - 137:6,
145:30
April [6] - 22:21, 32:21, 120:4, 126:23, 140:25, 154:4
Aqua [1] - 25:28arduous [1] - 20:25area [39] - 10:6, 11:3,
12:1, 13:27, 13:30, 14:4, 18:7, 25:30, 32:20, 38:10, 40:13, 45:25, 45:28, 47:21, 48:19, 61:18, 62:27, 89:14, 89:15, 89:21, 90:1, 92:13, 94:18, 94:22, 108:30, 112:30, 114:23, 120:21, 125:26, 131:22, 131:29, 133:4, 133:9, 135:4, 135:18, 135:20, 135:22, 149:7, 151:22
areas [3] - 10:29, 108:13, 151:20
argue [1] - 145:17argued [1] - 151:16argument [1] - 20:8arisen [1] - 48:22arises [4] - 54:1, 79:26,
85:9, 154:19arising [4] - 27:24, 77:7,
80:14, 116:1Armagh [24] - 11:16,
45:25, 87:14, 87:26, 88:14, 89:24, 91:9, 91:10, 91:20, 91:26, 93:30, 97:9, 97:16, 103:28, 106:23, 106:28, 124:5, 124:14, 134:17, 135:18, 135:22, 145:30, 148:5, 149:7
armed [4] - 20:17, 122:3, 151:2, 151:3
arms [1] - 146:26army [4] - 89:19, 93:30,
101:17, 136:9arose [6] - 17:28, 18:11,
30:11, 45:28, 51:6, 51:16
arrange [2] - 105:13, 154:27
arranged [5] - 105:13, 105:20, 121:25, 151:10, 155:1
arrangement [1] - 118:25arrangements [12] -
44:24, 44:30, 45:3, 71:1, 71:7, 82:28, 98:15, 106:1, 107:18, 120:16, 126:30, 129:28
arrested [1] - 20:24arrival [4] - 2:8, 5:28,
12:3, 80:7arrive [1] - 72:2arrived [10] - 2:10, 4:25,
8:30, 9:5, 14:7, 46:24, 70:14, 70:17, 70:21, 78:4
arriving [1] - 69:14AS [13] - 1:1, 2:2, 49:18,
57:6, 69:7, 77:12, 84:1,
87:2, 128:12, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28, 152:22
aside [2] - 40:25, 41:28aspect [2] - 49:6, 68:25assessment [11] - 12:8,
29:29, 45:8, 58:18, 68:20, 68:28, 129:24, 129:27, 141:19, 143:19, 149:22
assigned [1] - 2:13assist [4] - 6:26, 69:13,
99:16, 148:23assistance [3] - 43:10,
43:20, 123:17Assistant [36] - 7:23, 8:2,
8:3, 15:26, 15:29, 15:30, 16:13, 25:11, 32:7, 47:28, 49:3, 50:7, 69:12, 69:21, 77:17, 78:16, 87:27, 88:25, 89:6, 89:16, 90:25, 90:26, 92:3, 94:23, 95:3, 97:4, 102:16, 107:24, 124:4, 124:6, 124:26, 125:6, 136:24, 138:4, 143:6, 143:14
assistant [2] - 94:4, 107:21
assistants [1] - 71:5assisted [3] - 21:1, 122:4,
155:24assisting [1] - 74:19associated [1] - 147:10associates [2] - 11:1,
153:14Association [1] - 115:27assume [1] - 62:12assurance [1] - 129:11AT [1] - 156:9Athlone [1] - 3:27attach [1] - 23:22attached [8] - 8:9, 9:20,
9:24, 44:6, 101:16, 125:29, 126:1, 149:12
attack [1] - 113:25attacked [1] - 155:19attempt [4] - 116:13,
126:29, 141:4, 155:20attempting [1] - 61:9attempts [2] - 118:8,
119:20attend [9] - 64:23, 65:3,
65:10, 66:26, 67:19, 96:11, 103:4, 107:26, 108:23
attendance [3] - 97:16, 98:23, 107:25
attended [18] - 73:13, 93:14, 94:26, 96:9, 96:26, 97:10, 97:24, 97:26, 106:25, 106:26, 109:30, 111:7, 111:10, 120:18, 124:3, 124:5, 125:16, 144:10
Attended [4] - 97:4, 97:6, 106:23, 106:26
attending [2] - 66:20, 127:6
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attention [7] - 12:27, 14:11, 39:28, 62:19, 75:28, 107:3, 151:12
attitude [5] - 34:22, 65:20, 81:27, 149:15
attract [2] - 151:12, 152:12
attracting [1] - 85:4August [3] - 27:1, 29:6,
29:10authenticated [1] - 153:7authorised [2] - 26:9,
143:9authorities [6] - 21:6,
116:14, 119:1, 137:28, 145:30, 149:23
authority [3] - 34:22, 90:14, 130:3
automatically [1] - 127:17
avail [4] - 100:14, 100:16, 100:17, 115:8
available [6] - 7:15, 24:6, 35:19, 54:8, 115:11, 150:6
avenue [2] - 142:14, 142:17
aware [53] - 2:24, 3:4, 3:7, 3:22, 3:23, 6:5, 9:15, 9:30, 17:7, 17:27, 22:10, 23:25, 24:16, 25:16, 26:5, 26:6, 26:24, 28:25, 30:5, 30:6, 30:7, 30:8, 32:20, 32:27, 33:3, 33:25, 36:14, 37:20, 37:23, 39:19, 43:11, 44:8, 44:11, 44:18, 45:19, 49:1, 52:19, 60:27, 64:13, 65:18, 66:10, 72:19, 75:21, 85:2, 115:21, 119:3, 130:24, 130:25, 131:29, 132:10, 134:15, 142:20, 142:23
Bbackground [4] - 5:7, 7:8,
76:14, 80:25Banbridge [1] - 106:30bank [1] - 25:30Barracks [6] - 91:11,
91:18, 91:19, 91:29base [1] - 132:17based [5] - 3:27, 21:30,
26:17, 61:17, 66:13basic [1] - 127:12basis [23] - 42:18, 61:21,
61:23, 63:28, 75:18, 90:13, 91:6, 92:5, 92:9, 92:15, 92:27, 93:5, 100:4, 100:22, 104:7, 105:19, 105:20, 116:27, 122:13, 123:8, 140:2, 141:5, 149:4
battalion [1] - 94:1bear [2] - 70:17, 71:7bearing [1] - 91:3
became [7] - 9:15, 24:15, 36:16, 88:24, 118:14, 121:21, 136:22
become [6] - 28:24, 30:15, 98:19, 131:22, 131:28, 151:16
beefed [2] - 5:12BEEN [2] - 2:1, 87:1beg [1] - 2:11began [1] - 31:26begin [2] - 27:9, 87:9beginning [3] - 5:10,
62:7, 120:13begins [2] - 8:8, 23:20behalf [4] - 69:10, 86:11,
95:18, 123:17behaviour [1] - 60:11behind [1] - 84:9Belfast [9] - 86:12, 87:14,
87:20, 87:23, 88:16, 97:4, 106:23, 122:7, 133:15
Belgium [1] - 125:30belief [2] - 146:28, 148:6belong [1] - 112:4belonging [1] - 121:28benefit [1] - 55:9beside [1] - 116:23best [9] - 18:15, 32:25,
64:9, 72:7, 100:9, 116:20, 133:30, 137:1, 140:22
better [3] - 18:18, 40:15, 109:9
between [19] - 25:16, 34:28, 54:20, 64:16, 71:6, 76:18, 89:26, 89:28, 90:12, 92:7, 106:7, 118:4, 122:8, 122:14, 122:16, 123:4, 139:20, 142:21, 144:3
beyond [4] - 3:22, 39:13, 39:23, 74:6
big [4] - 11:2, 105:20, 107:8, 135:22
birds [1] - 24:17bit [5] - 5:6, 5:8, 38:25,
45:15, 128:26black [1] - 120:8blacked [3] - 19:23,
19:29, 135:17blew [1] - 145:24blind [1] - 149:26blow [1] - 151:5blown [1] - 142:11blue [2] - 147:15blunt [1] - 64:19Board [4] - 27:13, 27:15,
29:24, 30:24board [2] - 90:9, 105:15Bob [24] - 90:8, 90:18,
91:25, 93:3, 97:25, 98:7, 98:8, 98:9, 98:12, 104:30, 108:1, 108:23, 110:9, 111:7, 111:16, 111:22, 125:24, 126:6, 127:1, 127:6, 149:1, 149:13, 152:3
bodies [2] - 110:5, 132:12body [5] - 18:16, 66:27,
66:30, 109:6, 115:29Body [6] - 30:27, 31:6,
31:29, 32:9, 53:7, 64:13Body's [1] - 53:9bomb [2] - 29:7, 116:11bombing [1] - 59:12border [117] - 2:23, 5:14,
8:22, 11:16, 11:18, 12:30, 14:4, 18:7, 18:15, 19:6, 20:15, 28:11, 45:7, 45:24, 45:25, 45:28, 47:20, 48:16, 48:17, 61:12, 61:18, 62:10, 66:23, 69:24, 76:3, 87:28, 88:25, 88:29, 89:7, 89:11, 89:12, 89:13, 89:15, 89:21, 89:26, 89:29, 90:2, 90:4, 91:1, 91:7, 92:22, 92:26, 93:1, 93:3, 93:7, 94:9, 94:11, 94:18, 94:22, 94:29, 98:10, 98:13, 100:7, 103:8, 104:18, 105:8, 105:9, 108:12, 108:30, 110:5, 111:21, 112:25, 114:17, 114:23, 115:6, 115:14, 115:15, 117:17, 117:24, 117:30, 120:14, 120:29, 121:30, 122:2, 122:3, 122:12, 122:14, 122:21, 122:30, 124:6, 125:8, 125:26, 126:13, 126:24, 127:3, 129:6, 129:17, 129:22, 130:4, 130:12, 131:28, 132:13, 134:7, 135:29, 136:4, 136:8, 140:18, 142:10, 142:15, 145:4, 147:6, 147:8, 147:10, 149:7, 149:13, 149:20, 149:25, 149:29, 150:2, 150:16, 151:4, 151:10, 151:28, 152:10
Border [5] - 90:7, 90:8, 90:10, 90:18, 115:10
borne [1] - 82:8boss [1] - 25:27bottom [1] - 102:13bought [1] - 63:6bounded [1] - 140:5bounds [11] - 130:23,
130:28, 131:2, 131:11, 131:16, 131:20, 131:22, 131:25, 131:26, 131:29, 132:1
Branch [54] - 2:14, 7:14, 7:18, 7:21, 7:30, 9:16, 9:28, 11:22, 14:4, 15:17, 15:20, 15:21, 20:14, 20:27, 21:14, 27:3, 31:24, 32:4, 32:7, 32:11, 33:29, 34:19, 44:2, 49:30, 50:2, 50:6, 69:23, 75:3, 88:11, 88:13, 88:15, 88:19,
88:20, 88:26, 89:1, 89:3, 92:29, 102:8, 102:9, 111:29, 117:8, 118:15, 119:2, 119:3, 119:25, 122:8, 122:17, 123:6, 133:15, 136:23, 136:24, 139:23, 143:27
branch [2] - 2:15, 118:6breach [11] - 37:30,
40:11, 40:14, 59:3, 60:21, 66:17, 80:20, 81:13, 81:14, 144:2
breached [1] - 58:23breaches [8] - 27:23,
35:15, 59:7, 59:20, 60:11, 60:15, 66:28, 80:13
break [2] - 128:7, 128:9Breen [52] - 55:6, 55:12,
90:29, 91:23, 93:13, 93:28, 96:17, 96:23, 97:25, 98:2, 98:7, 98:9, 98:29, 99:2, 99:4, 99:26, 101:26, 103:30, 104:18, 104:30, 105:14, 106:1, 106:7, 106:24, 106:27, 107:1, 107:15, 107:25, 108:1, 108:15, 108:19, 108:23, 108:27, 109:4, 109:19, 110:2, 111:5, 115:13, 115:20, 127:7, 129:5, 131:6, 133:27, 146:3, 146:5, 146:10, 146:14, 146:24, 146:26, 149:1, 154:23
Breen's [14] - 55:7, 55:11, 90:27, 95:30, 96:2, 97:11, 99:2, 99:20, 108:26, 111:18, 115:22, 115:24, 116:21, 136:4
Brian [4] - 118:14, 136:10, 136:27, 137:2
Bridageer [2] - 89:17, 107:21
brief [3] - 88:19, 131:10, 148:22
briefed [7] - 99:12, 103:6, 103:12, 104:9, 110:30, 111:1, 131:14
briefing [1] - 131:14briefly [3] - 11:24, 29:2,
98:26BRIEFLY [1] - 128:12brigade [2] - 89:11,
107:20Brigade [15] - 89:12,
91:13, 91:27, 91:28, 106:25, 107:23, 107:27, 107:30, 108:3, 108:9, 108:11, 109:30, 124:6, 136:2, 136:3
Brigadier [1] - 92:2bring [4] - 39:7, 69:11,
109:5, 123:27bringing [2] - 10:23,
29:21brings [1] - 103:13Brink's [1] - 142:11
Brink's-MAT [1] - 142:11British [2] - 134:30,
153:12broad [1] - 48:10broadcast [1] - 44:23broader [1] - 80:24brought [6] - 14:11,
62:18, 62:19, 93:29, 107:3, 154:10
Buchanan [36] - 55:6, 90:9, 90:18, 93:3, 93:13, 97:26, 98:7, 98:8, 98:12, 104:30, 106:27, 108:1, 108:20, 108:23, 109:19, 110:2, 111:8, 111:22, 115:8, 115:20, 125:19, 125:21, 125:22, 125:24, 127:1, 127:6, 129:5, 131:6, 134:12, 147:17, 147:20, 149:2, 149:14, 149:19, 151:6, 152:3
Buchanan's [4] - 91:25, 110:9, 111:16, 146:30
builder [1] - 33:21built [2] - 20:4, 140:7bullets [1] - 141:24Bureau [2] - 21:1, 49:26burial [1] - 146:2business [5] - 10:3,
11:13, 150:5, 153:2, 155:12
but.. [2] - 59:22, 105:28BY [20] - 1:5, 1:6, 1:7, 1:8,
1:9, 1:11, 1:12, 1:13, 1:14, 1:15, 2:1, 49:18, 57:6, 69:7, 77:12, 87:1, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28, 152:22
by.. [1] - 96:4
CC77 [1] - 52:16C77s [2] - 52:11, 52:20Callaghan [1] - 42:12caller [1] - 116:4campaign [1] - 5:14cancellation [1] - 130:26cannot [5] - 19:14, 26:16,
34:5, 45:27, 126:18capability [3] - 117:4,
134:3, 134:18capable [1] - 134:11capacity [7] - 50:11, 90:3,
117:3, 117:11, 133:13, 134:21, 150:8
car [51] - 7:5, 10:28, 28:23, 28:29, 28:30, 29:2, 29:3, 29:13, 35:29, 59:5, 59:25, 64:23, 65:2, 65:5, 65:11, 81:15, 98:4, 109:10, 109:12, 110:8, 113:20, 113:22, 113:23, 113:24, 114:15, 115:17, 115:22, 116:9, 117:2, 121:26, 121:29, 122:1,
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132:22, 132:27, 132:29, 134:19, 134:27, 139:3, 139:4, 140:21, 146:30, 147:18, 151:3, 152:4, 152:10
cared [1] - 150:1career [4] - 21:12, 24:24,
59:2, 87:10carefully [1] - 52:20carelessness [1] - 149:16Carlingford [1] - 45:24carried [6] - 20:30, 45:8,
47:22, 74:18, 111:23, 115:28
carry [7] - 11:12, 42:24, 79:23, 82:12, 111:21, 113:16, 114:10
carrying [2] - 78:18, 115:9
cars [24] - 6:30, 7:13, 7:14, 7:20, 9:15, 9:18, 10:1, 10:27, 34:11, 37:3, 37:18, 63:2, 63:6, 63:8, 80:29, 121:22, 121:27, 132:3, 134:7, 138:15, 147:9, 152:11
Carty [2] - 71:6, 77:23case [31] - 2:18, 4:1, 5:29,
8:24, 10:22, 17:29, 18:4, 25:1, 36:11, 37:9, 37:26, 44:14, 50:16, 52:30, 55:10, 59:17, 61:8, 61:9, 64:9, 74:28, 80:29, 96:16, 111:3, 114:22, 137:13, 139:19, 144:24, 145:14, 145:23, 153:9
cases [5] - 26:13, 38:11, 39:1, 101:29, 114:24
Castle [4] - 93:14, 96:10, 96:27, 99:21
casual [1] - 34:22casualties [1] - 142:9catch [2] - 63:18, 100:15category [2] - 44:3, 44:4causing [1] - 100:26caution [1] - 38:5cautious [1] - 5:8Cavan [4] - 25:21, 64:26,
64:27, 65:3ceasing [1] - 52:29censure [2] - 21:22, 24:8central [1] - 60:26centre [1] - 18:14ceremony [5] - 25:22,
26:2, 26:8, 64:24, 65:4certain [13] - 4:1, 13:20,
22:14, 35:17, 65:15, 78:5, 81:12, 95:9, 95:10, 99:4, 113:22, 146:12, 149:12
certainly [33] - 2:25, 3:7, 5:1, 11:15, 21:27, 23:3, 57:19, 71:26, 74:6, 86:15, 92:20, 96:9, 114:13, 114:20, 117:28, 118:16, 119:19, 119:23, 121:19, 123:13, 125:25,
126:8, 130:8, 131:17, 132:3, 134:14, 134:21, 137:12, 139:25, 142:28, 143:29, 148:26, 152:2
certificate [2] - 26:19, 53:29
certificates [3] - 37:13, 39:8, 68:8
certified [3] - 68:22, 124:26, 153:30
cetera [1] - 97:5chain [1] - 52:1Chairman [63] - 1:4, 2:5,
2:30, 4:7, 5:1, 7:2, 9:25, 11:9, 12:18, 13:16, 18:22, 18:26, 19:20, 19:25, 21:9, 31:9, 32:8, 40:20, 69:9, 77:3, 77:7, 77:15, 78:14, 80:2, 84:6, 84:11, 84:21, 85:18, 85:26, 86:4, 87:10, 87:11, 93:26, 99:15, 99:16, 99:18, 99:24, 100:8, 101:4, 101:11, 107:8, 108:21, 108:25, 110:19, 112:1, 113:15, 115:13, 122:10, 124:24, 125:13, 125:28, 128:20, 134:22, 139:7, 139:17, 141:27, 148:20, 148:22, 149:18, 152:18, 154:1, 154:18, 155:13
CHAIRMAN [37] - 1:9, 41:3, 41:17, 42:2, 77:5, 77:9, 81:19, 82:23, 83:2, 84:3, 84:8, 84:13, 84:23, 84:30, 85:7, 85:14, 85:21, 85:29, 86:9, 86:15, 86:19, 107:11, 110:24, 127:16, 127:25, 127:30, 128:4, 128:9, 128:17, 128:22, 148:12, 148:18, 148:26, 152:20, 155:8, 155:15, 156:3
challenged [1] - 10:2chance [3] - 47:4, 47:19,
133:11change [2] - 31:29,
147:18changed [9] - 2:16,
35:10, 39:18, 57:30, 116:7, 122:1, 142:21, 147:13, 147:14
changes [1] - 142:25channels [1] - 90:24character [4] - 61:17,
137:18, 137:19, 149:1characteristics [1] -
149:1charge [8] - 7:26, 17:6,
35:14, 36:10, 51:25, 91:30, 118:12, 133:18
Charge [2] - 20:14, 21:14charged [1] - 66:17charges [2] - 16:25, 27:26charm [1] - 144:18chat [1] - 148:4
check [3] - 72:16, 133:4, 133:9
check-points [2] - 133:4, 133:9
chief [2] - 108:29, 154:22Chief [99] - 2:14, 8:18,
15:15, 15:17, 21:16, 42:30, 49:29, 49:30, 51:8, 51:22, 52:3, 52:16, 52:25, 55:5, 55:6, 56:4, 56:19, 80:4, 87:21, 87:27, 87:28, 88:25, 89:6, 89:16, 90:25, 90:26, 92:3, 93:12, 94:21, 94:23, 95:3, 95:29, 96:1, 96:16, 96:23, 97:4, 97:6, 97:7, 97:8, 98:19, 99:20, 100:3, 101:3, 101:24, 101:28, 102:1, 102:16, 103:5, 103:10, 104:17, 105:18, 105:22, 106:1, 106:24, 107:14, 107:24, 108:15, 108:19, 108:25, 108:26, 109:3, 110:1, 110:27, 110:29, 111:4, 111:29, 115:19, 115:21, 115:24, 116:21, 117:8, 123:18, 124:4, 124:6, 124:14, 124:26, 124:28, 125:6, 129:4, 131:5, 131:19, 133:27, 135:5, 135:14, 136:24, 137:3, 138:4, 142:16, 143:6, 143:14, 144:26, 144:30, 145:4, 145:6, 145:17, 153:2, 154:23
Chinook [1] - 136:13choice [2] - 19:6, 101:1choose [1] - 34:28chose [4] - 45:4, 52:5,
147:22, 149:19chosen [1] - 45:30Christian [1] - 146:2cinema [1] - 33:21cipher [1] - 87:5circa [1] - 132:11circumspect [1] - 119:28circumspection [2] -
119:18, 119:22circumstances [20] -
17:27, 18:17, 20:3, 31:1, 48:8, 55:18, 60:13, 65:7, 65:9, 70:29, 73:21, 79:25, 82:27, 88:5, 89:7, 109:7, 127:8, 138:12, 141:12, 152:7
civilian [3] - 62:28, 76:13, 120:17
civilians [3] - 10:8, 71:20, 92:12
claim [4] - 85:4, 152:29, 153:5
claimed [1] - 152:28claims [1] - 153:10clarify [3] - 128:30, 154:2,
154:5
clarity [1] - 116:19clear [15] - 10:13, 11:5,
16:13, 26:29, 31:21, 42:15, 42:26, 49:1, 71:30, 80:15, 80:16, 85:19, 91:18, 96:25, 121:2
clearance [2] - 113:11, 113:13
cleared [3] - 11:15, 84:8, 111:12
clearly [3] - 14:10, 21:27, 49:5
clergy [1] - 145:29client [6] - 41:4, 41:14,
41:17, 41:20, 60:7, 81:13
clock [1] - 117:5close [5] - 28:3, 124:13,
125:25, 126:10, 146:15closed [1] - 149:26closely [1] - 90:15closest [1] - 146:14clothes [1] - 88:28cloud [4] - 3:2, 3:3, 3:6,
3:7Club [1] - 28:10co [5] - 91:12, 121:15,
136:2, 139:20, 139:29co-located [2] - 91:12,
136:2co-operate [1] - 121:15co-operating [1] - 139:29co-operation [1] - 139:20coal [1] - 113:7code [3] - 138:26, 138:27,
138:30coded [1] - 113:4COFFEY [3] - 69:5,
148:14, 148:20COG [1] - 97:7coincidence [1] - 124:21coincidentally [1] -
102:11colleague [4] - 9:10,
64:24, 135:14, 146:14colleagues [7] - 2:26,
24:30, 28:4, 124:11, 125:25, 145:20, 148:3
colluding [1] - 61:3collusion [2] - 44:11,
48:21colonels [1] - 103:17colour [2] - 113:23, 120:7coloured [1] - 120:10Colton [3] - 3:9, 3:11,
3:12combination [2] - 89:18,
153:11combined [1] - 88:27comfortable [1] - 144:17coming [8] - 11:24,
58:29, 59:1, 75:24, 108:13, 119:9, 155:16, 155:23
command [16] - 52:1, 90:1, 90:2, 91:19, 97:11, 109:26, 109:27,
111:1, 113:16, 123:13, 123:18, 123:20, 129:16, 136:7, 142:25
commanded [1] - 92:2Commander [2] - 87:26,
94:26commander [11] - 92:29,
92:30, 101:25, 105:14, 109:16, 109:21, 123:10, 139:27, 142:18, 145:26
commanders [4] - 90:16, 94:1, 136:3, 149:11
commanding [2] - 142:15, 153:15
Commanding [2] - 101:18, 144:27
commemorate [1] - 26:2commemoration [1] -
25:20commenced [3] - 54:2,
58:15, 97:20commencing [1] - 117:7commended [2] - 21:4,
21:5comment [5] - 125:4,
147:20, 147:23, 149:21, 149:24
commented [1] - 55:25comments [2] - 23:29,
33:8Commission [1] - 21:6Commissioner [26] -
7:23, 8:2, 8:4, 15:27, 15:29, 15:30, 16:13, 23:4, 23:21, 25:9, 25:11, 25:13, 27:11, 32:7, 47:29, 48:4, 49:3, 53:11, 54:23, 54:25, 64:15, 65:26, 69:12, 69:21, 78:16
Commissioner's [1] - 77:17
Commissioners [1] - 50:7
committed [3] - 81:28, 81:29, 135:21
committee [2] - 44:9committing [2] - 63:19,
79:3common [2] - 67:13,
67:16Commons [2] - 43:15,
43:18communicate [1] - 25:10communicates [1] - 28:3communicating [1] -
112:12communication [5] -
139:22, 139:26, 139:27, 142:17, 150:12
communications [2] - 132:4, 151:25
company [2] - 33:21, 55:29
Company [1] - 86:12competent [1] - 147:21compile [2] - 71:11, 72:4compiled [3] - 71:4,
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71:28, 72:25complacency [1] - 45:16complaint [8] - 61:28,
61:29, 63:15, 64:28, 64:29, 65:14, 65:19, 65:25
complaints [7] - 2:17, 14:23, 22:4, 57:29, 58:1, 58:6, 64:22
complete [1] - 4:11completed [3] - 96:17,
96:23, 109:14completely [1] - 91:24completing [1] - 96:13complex [2] - 94:11,
100:7complied [1] - 101:4comply [2] - 101:1,
102:23composition [1] - 27:16compromised [5] - 56:14,
56:18, 56:23, 82:17, 120:27
Computer [1] - 87:24conceivable [1] - 109:3concentrating [1] -
121:26concept [1] - 17:21concepts [1] - 44:27concern [19] - 6:1, 25:4,
27:5, 40:5, 40:7, 40:10, 42:7, 42:19, 55:11, 79:14, 79:18, 117:19, 119:5, 122:28, 124:30, 125:21, 126:15, 146:17, 146:20
concerned [10] - 13:18, 26:22, 39:5, 42:20, 72:6, 80:19, 81:11, 112:8, 121:21, 150:1
concerning [7] - 6:7, 17:26, 23:21, 23:26, 24:1, 33:16, 119:8
concerns [8] - 16:14, 18:23, 55:26, 62:5, 62:25, 117:27, 146:24
concessions [1] - 13:22conclude [3] - 15:5,
28:28, 134:29concluded [7] - 38:20,
59:8, 59:19, 59:21, 60:22, 82:9, 155:8
concludes [2] - 38:23, 155:12
conclusion [11] - 38:24, 49:1, 55:29, 56:1, 60:28, 66:11, 74:10, 74:13, 76:17, 76:21, 76:23
concrete [1] - 114:27concur [1] - 137:14condition [4] - 26:22,
26:27, 31:2, 152:1conditions [3] - 140:20,
140:24, 151:24conduct [9] - 13:28, 24:9,
32:19, 34:1, 34:13, 38:17, 99:28, 129:24,
150:4conducted [2] - 57:18,
57:19Conference [8] - 106:25,
107:23, 107:27, 107:30, 108:3, 108:9, 108:11, 109:30
confide [1] - 126:9confident [1] - 149:21confidential [1] - 33:15confined [1] - 123:3confirm [6] - 20:18, 87:5,
95:25, 96:5, 111:10, 141:21
confirms [1] - 97:16confirms.. [1] - 123:29conflict [1] - 34:26connect [1] - 134:17connected [3] - 95:20,
121:11, 152:11connection [6] - 16:4,
25:19, 48:22, 74:30, 75:2, 75:4
connections [1] - 74:23Connolly [13] - 2:27,
6:18, 6:20, 7:11, 8:10, 8:14, 22:30, 23:24, 35:27, 78:17, 78:29, 79:7, 79:11
Connolly's [3] - 15:4, 16:11, 44:16
consequence [1] - 38:26consequences [2] - 7:19,
9:21consider [2] - 42:13,
125:4considerable [2] - 10:10,
25:5considerably [1] - 155:24consideration [10] - 14:2,
19:8, 31:3, 49:13, 70:10, 70:15, 70:22, 73:25, 74:21, 74:27
considerations [1] - 80:26
considered [8] - 13:29, 15:12, 30:27, 31:6, 31:15, 31:16, 90:21, 113:12
consisted [1] - 89:13consistent [1] - 111:20constable [1] - 87:13Constable [35] - 87:28,
88:25, 89:7, 89:17, 90:25, 90:26, 92:4, 94:23, 95:3, 97:8, 98:19, 100:3, 101:3, 101:24, 101:28, 102:1, 102:16, 103:5, 103:10, 107:24, 110:28, 110:29, 124:4, 124:6, 124:26, 125:6, 136:24, 138:4, 143:6, 143:14, 144:27, 145:1, 145:4, 145:6
Constable's [1] - 97:5constituted [1] - 27:19construct [1] - 61:9constructed [1] - 150:15
construed [1] - 17:3consult [1] - 90:3consultation [1] - 89:16consulted [1] - 118:13contact [18] - 35:18,
74:20, 76:23, 92:6, 118:8, 119:4, 119:7, 123:6, 123:11, 124:18, 125:1, 125:9, 137:29, 139:28, 140:30, 141:13, 142:2, 153:26
contacted [8] - 33:20, 44:16, 71:19, 71:30, 138:25, 141:18, 143:16, 145:18
contacting [1] - 129:23contacts [7] - 10:4,
11:30, 13:10, 13:13, 24:20, 76:12, 112:26
contained [2] - 116:20, 116:21
context [8] - 34:16, 60:26, 77:17, 79:1, 79:7, 137:11, 138:17, 140:24
continue [4] - 15:7, 42:3, 54:7, 144:16
continued [1] - 18:7CONTINUED [1] - 84:1continuously [1] - 114:10contrary [5] - 42:14,
105:10, 113:6, 129:19, 137:29
control [2] - 34:29, 42:29Control [4] - 29:4, 131:8,
131:10, 131:18controlled [1] - 11:16controversial [1] - 154:21conversant [1] - 104:7conversation [8] - 73:18,
94:6, 94:8, 107:16, 108:17, 109:24, 124:19, 154:24
conversations [2] - 94:5, 112:20
convey [1] - 19:29conveying [1] - 6:10convict [1] - 126:18convicted [1] - 66:8convince [2] - 30:2, 64:6convinced [2] - 34:24,
47:16convincing [4] - 29:25,
30:3, 64:3, 64:12cooperation [7] - 88:6,
104:2, 117:30, 118:6, 118:18, 118:23, 142:12
coordinate [1] - 90:3coordinated [2] - 100:10,
136:3copies [1] - 8:9copy [10] - 19:29, 23:3,
52:16, 95:16, 101:16, 106:19, 120:4, 120:8, 120:9, 120:10
Cork [2] - 14:18, 24:27correct [99] - 5:22, 7:25,
17:17, 18:26, 21:25,
24:2, 50:18, 50:30, 54:8, 54:10, 54:19, 54:24, 54:29, 57:12, 57:24, 58:7, 58:8, 58:9, 59:5, 60:16, 60:18, 61:5, 61:26, 61:27, 61:30, 62:23, 62:24, 63:6, 63:12, 63:17, 64:17, 64:18, 64:21, 67:5, 68:8, 71:4, 74:24, 77:14, 84:6, 84:11, 88:2, 88:10, 88:17, 88:18, 88:22, 88:23, 89:25, 90:10, 93:16, 93:17, 95:6, 95:17, 96:11, 97:14, 101:26, 101:27, 102:2, 102:17, 102:18, 102:28, 111:6, 113:8, 114:2, 116:17, 117:9, 117:10, 121:30, 122:9, 122:10, 123:25, 123:26, 129:7, 133:12, 133:20, 133:25, 134:24, 135:6, 135:19, 135:29, 136:20, 136:29, 137:28, 138:12, 139:10, 139:22, 140:11, 140:14, 140:26, 141:30, 142:4, 143:3, 143:4, 144:6, 147:1, 147:5, 150:5, 150:14, 151:4, 154:6
correction [1] - 114:4correctly [2] - 50:21,
130:13correspondence [12] -
12:19, 23:5, 23:7, 23:18, 25:12, 31:26, 33:26, 62:20, 65:28, 66:3, 80:15, 97:5
corresponding [2] - 27:2, 87:6
Corrigan [155] - 2:21, 2:22, 3:29, 4:19, 4:28, 5:10, 5:29, 6:10, 6:24, 7:2, 7:22, 8:20, 9:28, 9:30, 10:5, 11:20, 12:9, 12:12, 12:13, 12:15, 13:17, 14:19, 14:21, 14:29, 16:6, 16:14, 17:3, 18:1, 18:4, 18:25, 18:28, 19:21, 19:22, 19:27, 19:30, 21:11, 22:15, 23:15, 24:1, 24:11, 24:23, 25:7, 25:17, 27:5, 27:6, 27:9, 27:24, 27:30, 28:7, 28:11, 29:8, 29:17, 29:29, 30:25, 32:16, 33:16, 35:15, 35:24, 37:10, 37:20, 39:6, 39:20, 40:24, 40:28, 41:1, 41:7, 42:11, 42:13, 42:20, 42:25, 43:9, 43:26, 44:8, 51:17, 54:30, 58:14, 59:3, 59:14, 60:1, 60:25, 61:10, 61:21, 61:25, 62:8, 63:5, 63:25, 64:5, 64:11,
64:16, 64:20, 64:22, 64:29, 65:17, 65:20, 66:4, 66:13, 68:21, 68:28, 75:8, 75:14, 75:19, 75:25, 77:1, 80:17, 82:7, 82:13, 82:17, 118:20, 119:4, 119:12, 119:17, 119:30, 120:21, 120:23, 120:27, 121:4, 121:12, 121:17, 121:21, 123:7, 123:19, 123:24, 124:8, 124:12, 124:16, 124:21, 125:1, 125:27, 126:26, 136:17, 136:27, 136:29, 137:4, 137:7, 137:15, 137:28, 137:29, 139:19, 139:29, 140:9, 140:16, 141:6, 141:10, 141:22, 142:3, 142:13, 142:26, 143:2, 143:11, 143:12, 143:15, 143:17, 154:8, 154:10, 154:14
Corrigan's [22] - 4:2, 4:8, 13:20, 21:12, 23:18, 24:7, 24:18, 25:14, 26:23, 33:28, 40:2, 41:10, 43:5, 51:1, 51:14, 54:25, 58:19, 59:23, 62:25, 75:21, 80:13, 142:20
Cory [1] - 45:19counsel [1] - 81:12counted [1] - 95:22counter [1] - 133:22counter-surveillance [1]
- 133:22counterpart [1] - 151:27counterparts [1] - 150:16counties [1] - 20:23country [4] - 22:5,
126:17, 126:18, 151:20County [2] - 25:21, 65:3couple [2] - 99:25, 128:30course [33] - 4:5, 12:14,
17:7, 18:10, 20:26, 24:15, 33:14, 46:25, 49:14, 51:4, 51:12, 51:27, 56:12, 60:1, 60:24, 61:7, 64:10, 68:4, 78:17, 86:13, 93:10, 94:7, 98:12, 99:10, 118:26, 128:22, 130:20, 131:2, 131:7, 140:10, 143:9, 151:14, 156:1
Court [4] - 21:3, 38:12, 84:8, 85:19
court [1] - 21:5courtroom [1] - 85:22courts [2] - 53:17, 124:4cover [3] - 10:29, 45:23,
139:2covering [2] - 45:20, 60:6crash [1] - 136:13Crawford [4] - 86:7, 86:9,
148:18, 155:28CRAWFORD [2] - 86:11,
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86:17create [1] - 150:30created [4] - 66:3, 89:7,
89:8, 90:11creator [1] - 90:22credence [2] - 44:5,
126:19credible [6] - 113:29,
114:5, 147:26, 147:28, 147:29
crime [8] - 28:15, 28:17, 35:21, 66:25, 79:4, 102:6, 118:6, 139:23
Crime [18] - 7:26, 7:27, 8:1, 8:4, 15:10, 15:20, 15:22, 23:5, 27:3, 31:26, 49:30, 50:26, 50:27, 51:2, 52:6, 69:23, 102:17, 122:17
Criminal [1] - 21:3criminal [5] - 61:20,
61:29, 62:13, 63:20, 79:5
criss [1] - 135:25criss-crossed [1] -
135:25critical [1] - 48:24criticism [2] - 52:19,
64:11cross [16] - 40:30, 47:15,
69:24, 72:15, 81:7, 81:10, 88:29, 105:8, 117:30, 122:12, 122:14, 129:12, 129:14, 129:17, 149:25, 154:20
CROSS [12] - 1:6, 1:7, 1:8, 1:12, 1:13, 1:14, 49:18, 57:6, 69:7, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28
cross-border [4] - 69:24, 117:30, 122:12, 122:14
cross-examination [2] - 40:30, 154:20
cross-examine [1] - 81:10
CROSS-EXAMINED [12] - 1:6, 1:7, 1:8, 1:12, 1:13, 1:14, 49:18, 57:6, 69:7, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28
cross-examining [1] - 81:7
cross-reference [1] - 72:15
crossed [8] - 47:10, 93:1, 93:3, 117:24, 135:25, 140:18, 149:24, 150:1
crossing [8] - 45:28, 48:17, 92:26, 93:7, 115:5, 115:15, 129:22, 131:28
Crushley [2] - 102:20, 143:13
Crutchly [1] - 95:3Culhane [6] - 2:29, 7:12,
9:11, 44:16, 44:20, 62:21
culminating [1] - 4:2cultivated [1] - 24:14
cup [1] - 97:29curiosity [1] - 28:27Curran [3] - 125:14,
125:18, 126:9current [2] - 20:15, 20:28Customs [1] - 100:11customs [3] - 97:12,
106:24, 136:9
Dd'être [1] - 92:24daily [5] - 90:13, 91:6,
92:5, 92:30, 122:13damage [2] - 7:1, 7:4Dan [1] - 5:21danger [1] - 141:6dangerous [7] - 20:25,
117:25, 120:24, 122:5, 143:30, 144:2, 145:13
dark [1] - 137:13data [1] - 135:1date [14] - 6:25, 19:19,
20:12, 27:13, 31:11, 37:7, 37:9, 53:1, 53:3, 77:19, 95:8, 131:25, 133:27
dated [9] - 8:19, 15:27, 27:1, 31:22, 35:12, 62:4, 102:9, 102:21, 143:1
dates [4] - 32:17, 35:18, 96:14, 96:21
dating [1] - 137:16David [2] - 102:20, 107:1DAY [1] - 156:8day-to-day [3] - 12:30,
91:5, 104:7days [6] - 33:14, 96:14,
132:2, 146:11, 155:2, 155:3
dead [2] - 110:5, 132:21deadly [1] - 134:5deal [22] - 2:7, 2:16, 2:20,
4:5, 5:8, 5:27, 14:28, 15:13, 17:28, 18:15, 23:19, 25:6, 30:20, 37:11, 39:4, 40:29, 58:5, 75:14, 85:8, 108:10, 114:16, 131:16
dealing [13] - 7:29, 23:13, 31:30, 37:17, 47:19, 48:16, 51:15, 84:27, 101:29, 105:1, 105:16, 119:26, 153:25
dealings [18] - 3:11, 3:16, 3:17, 3:21, 4:18, 4:30, 11:11, 11:14, 12:12, 14:19, 14:21, 16:1, 61:19, 82:18, 117:11, 117:15, 117:16, 120:14
deals [1] - 4:7dealt [9] - 15:29, 29:25,
42:9, 50:4, 50:16, 52:18, 69:23, 117:6, 155:29
death [1] - 146:27deaths [2] - 93:12, 110:1
debt [1] - 155:23deceased [6] - 95:6, 95:7,
118:14, 124:28, 135:5, 136:11
December [2] - 36:29, 53:2
decent [1] - 146:1decide [3] - 16:25, 17:5,
130:20decided [7] - 32:4, 37:21,
54:25, 89:11, 116:14, 129:30, 130:9
decides [1] - 67:2decision [11] - 14:3,
15:22, 18:29, 19:10, 22:24, 28:21, 32:3, 37:23, 84:18, 130:21, 144:21
declare [1] - 114:30declined [1] - 33:23dedicated [2] - 21:18,
140:22deducted [1] - 36:3deduction [1] - 54:17deeply [1] - 99:23defend [1] - 58:11defer [1] - 127:22definitely [1] - 67:11definitive [1] - 112:18degree [6] - 45:17,
119:17, 122:27, 140:3, 149:21, 150:26
delay [2] - 38:13, 53:26delicate [1] - 92:17delivered [1] - 131:17delivery [1] - 142:11demanded [2] - 140:5,
145:16denied [1] - 44:14denotes [1] - 152:29Department [2] - 27:21,
87:24departments [1] - 71:18departure [1] - 32:26deploying [1] - 100:25deployment [1] - 50:19depot [1] - 36:25depth [1] - 92:14Deputy [8] - 23:4, 25:9,
25:10, 25:13, 64:14, 65:26, 90:26, 91:1
deputy [6] - 87:27, 88:24, 89:20, 91:7, 92:22, 97:9
Dermot [1] - 49:22derogatory [1] - 143:15Derry [3] - 87:16, 89:23,
89:24describe [2] - 78:25,
133:1described [4] - 85:3,
94:10, 119:20, 129:21desirability [1] - 33:16desk [2] - 110:3, 131:3despite [3] - 43:26,
100:29, 137:26destinations [1] - 31:25destruction [1] - 146:5
detail [6] - 6:29, 20:11, 53:6, 60:4, 94:13, 134:22
detailed [2] - 104:24, 153:24
details [3] - 20:6, 26:15, 99:13
detected [2] - 76:6, 144:6Detective [109] - 2:27,
4:3, 4:23, 4:24, 5:11, 5:15, 5:18, 5:19, 5:20, 7:2, 7:11, 7:13, 7:18, 7:21, 7:30, 8:10, 9:16, 9:27, 9:28, 9:30, 11:22, 11:23, 11:24, 13:26, 14:1, 14:3, 14:29, 15:3, 15:17, 15:19, 16:6, 16:11, 18:28, 18:29, 19:1, 19:2, 20:13, 20:14, 20:27, 21:14, 22:29, 23:15, 23:23, 25:15, 28:11, 28:12, 28:17, 29:9, 32:11, 32:12, 33:29, 34:19, 34:30, 42:10, 42:25, 44:2, 44:21, 49:24, 50:28, 51:24, 51:26, 52:2, 52:25, 56:22, 56:30, 65:16, 65:20, 66:4, 66:12, 66:24, 75:3, 75:14, 77:23, 87:19, 87:21, 88:11, 111:29, 117:8, 118:12, 118:17, 118:20, 119:4, 119:12, 121:4, 121:12, 121:17, 123:7, 123:23, 124:8, 124:12, 124:14, 124:20, 125:18, 125:27, 126:25, 135:5, 135:14, 136:16, 137:3, 139:18, 143:10, 143:12, 143:27, 154:8, 154:13
detective [18] - 5:12, 11:26, 17:27, 18:5, 18:7, 24:11, 31:27, 31:28, 42:25, 56:6, 75:3, 115:14, 118:13, 124:13, 139:23, 139:25, 139:28, 142:22
detectives [4] - 4:25, 5:16, 51:25, 52:14
determine [2] - 60:20, 130:11
determined [2] - 67:4, 67:6
determines [2] - 66:27, 66:30
detrimentally [1] - 20:6develop [1] - 150:15developed [1] - 118:18developing [2] - 27:4,
118:22devices [2] - 13:12, 45:1di [1] - 124:30dialogue [5] - 90:12,
118:6, 137:4, 140:7, 142:8
diaries [2] - 138:4, 153:16
Diarmuid [2] - 128:24, 128:27
diary [26] - 93:4, 95:11, 95:13, 95:30, 96:2, 96:29, 97:1, 99:2, 106:15, 106:16, 107:14, 110:12, 110:13, 115:21, 115:23, 115:24, 115:26, 115:27, 115:30, 116:21, 116:22, 120:1, 120:2, 120:3, 153:4
die [1] - 149:19died [1] - 96:18difference [1] - 60:10different [10] - 38:8,
47:27, 56:9, 60:7, 98:24, 114:26, 115:9, 115:15, 137:27
differentiates [1] - 60:1difficult [9] - 13:30,
14:14, 18:11, 21:20, 22:15, 95:25, 140:19, 141:8, 155:21
difficulties [1] - 20:26digress [1] - 93:7DILLON [17] - 1:5, 1:9,
1:4, 1:17, 2:1, 2:4, 42:5, 49:16, 77:7, 77:12, 77:14, 81:26, 82:21, 84:27, 85:2, 85:11, 85:16
Dillon [16] - 40:23, 41:12, 42:3, 50:25, 54:2, 54:6, 55:3, 59:11, 61:2, 61:8, 61:15, 70:4, 70:9, 81:7, 81:9, 81:20
Dillon's [1] - 40:27dimension [1] - 81:26dinner [18] - 93:26, 93:27,
94:7, 94:14, 95:8, 95:17, 95:26, 95:27, 99:21, 102:11, 102:12, 102:26, 102:28, 103:7, 103:21, 144:10, 144:20, 144:23
direct [9] - 7:3, 62:22, 68:2, 72:3, 91:5, 91:16, 125:9, 139:26, 141:28
directed [19] - 19:18, 23:5, 23:7, 26:13, 27:9, 28:28, 31:23, 38:14, 56:9, 65:23, 89:15, 89:18, 98:5, 98:18, 98:20, 99:27, 103:11, 145:5, 145:9
directing [1] - 144:1direction [9] - 99:23,
99:25, 100:2, 101:6, 101:30, 102:27, 104:17, 104:21, 105:10
directions [3] - 48:18, 91:6, 102:12
directive [2] - 7:17, 9:20directly [14] - 6:11, 6:15,
7:5, 50:9, 51:22, 52:4, 52:6, 52:10, 52:15, 92:20, 105:16, 110:29, 111:1, 122:19
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directory [4] - 116:6, 116:27, 134:21, 134:23
disappointed [1] - 99:23disbelieve [1] - 148:8discarded [1] - 126:21disciplinary [35] - 16:17,
16:19, 17:4, 30:24, 34:24, 35:23, 36:5, 41:25, 54:3, 54:6, 54:9, 54:20, 54:22, 54:28, 57:11, 57:15, 57:23, 58:8, 58:16, 58:19, 58:22, 59:15, 59:24, 59:27, 60:3, 60:4, 60:9, 60:10, 61:28, 66:27, 67:5, 67:6, 68:17, 81:29, 82:7
discipline [26] - 2:17, 13:29, 22:19, 27:23, 34:26, 35:15, 38:1, 40:15, 50:11, 50:16, 50:17, 51:6, 51:10, 51:12, 51:16, 58:23, 59:3, 59:8, 59:20, 60:15, 60:21, 66:18, 66:28, 81:13, 81:14, 81:15
Discipline [6] - 15:2, 16:9, 17:8, 29:21, 35:14, 50:22
disciplined [1] - 153:12discipling [1] - 38:29disclose [2] - 45:3, 92:18disclosed [1] - 15:3discretionary [2] - 92:9,
92:15discriminate [1] - 141:24discuss [9] - 17:2, 18:1,
70:1, 70:15, 70:22, 76:21, 94:19, 136:6, 153:6
discussed [15] - 16:4, 16:6, 73:27, 73:30, 76:30, 93:1, 94:13, 104:6, 105:24, 130:7, 130:8, 144:29, 146:15, 150:20, 150:21
discussing [4] - 57:1, 98:4, 99:30, 143:22
discussion [8] - 73:8, 105:3, 105:12, 105:21, 108:18, 109:18, 124:11, 144:25
discussions [4] - 73:14, 99:11, 106:7, 137:1
dishonest [1] - 81:2dishonesty [3] - 81:2,
81:4, 81:14dismissal [2] - 38:3,
54:12disorder [1] - 145:28dispatch [1] - 132:15dispatching [1] - 132:13dispute [3] - 20:20,
71:24, 98:22distance [2] - 19:8,
147:11distributing [1] - 131:12
District [1] - 21:6district [2] - 44:26,
151:17Division [5] - 90:28,
97:11, 105:15, 111:5division [13] - 15:19,
21:1, 26:10, 31:20, 32:15, 44:26, 50:29, 53:10, 79:22, 90:28, 105:15, 136:5, 151:18
divisional [3] - 89:27, 101:25, 139:27
Divisional [1] - 21:6divisions [1] - 89:30doctor [3] - 26:19, 68:21,
68:29document [20] - 6:22,
18:27, 18:28, 19:20, 19:28, 23:2, 27:1, 30:23, 31:21, 35:11, 35:12, 35:13, 101:7, 101:10, 101:13, 103:1, 103:22, 144:24, 145:2
documented [1] - 140:11documents [4] - 8:9,
19:26, 52:27, 66:16Doggett [2] - 84:28, 85:11domiciled [1] - 88:4Donaldson [1] - 43:14done [16] - 4:21, 11:3,
11:6, 38:18, 39:6, 39:11, 43:14, 44:19, 51:29, 53:15, 53:25, 59:17, 105:26, 132:25, 136:7, 152:7
door [1] - 155:9doubt [8] - 6:13, 24:13,
26:26, 33:28, 133:21, 133:26, 134:11, 134:14
doubtful [1] - 11:29doubts [1] - 121:16Down [1] - 89:22down [18] - 11:27, 24:26,
28:7, 31:20, 35:5, 45:26, 104:11, 110:7, 110:17, 114:20, 114:24, 131:15, 139:4, 145:21, 146:3, 146:6, 146:7, 146:12
Downey [1] - 32:13drafted [1] - 127:2dragged [1] - 39:1dramatic [2] - 119:13,
142:28draw [2] - 75:28, 152:2drawn [2] - 55:30, 60:28dried [1] - 13:17drifted [1] - 45:13drive [6] - 114:24, 132:14,
145:29, 147:15driveway [2] - 98:3,
146:16driving [3] - 140:21,
146:26, 149:13Drogheda [28] - 8:19,
11:23, 21:16, 24:4, 24:26, 31:5, 31:10, 31:17, 31:19, 32:16,
32:17, 32:21, 32:24, 32:28, 33:5, 33:6, 33:10, 33:17, 33:20, 33:21, 33:29, 34:19, 34:27, 35:1, 63:29, 80:5
Dromad [4] - 28:10, 91:11, 91:18, 91:29
drove [9] - 98:2, 118:11, 120:28, 120:30, 122:2, 146:3, 146:4, 147:6, 147:8
Dublin [6] - 15:10, 19:8, 31:5, 31:17, 45:6, 64:26
due [5] - 4:5, 53:1, 86:13, 93:10, 140:29
Dundalk [101] - 2:7, 2:10, 2:12, 2:18, 2:28, 3:1, 3:3, 3:8, 4:2, 4:17, 4:25, 4:28, 5:11, 5:15, 5:29, 7:14, 8:10, 9:15, 9:16, 10:8, 11:23, 11:25, 14:2, 18:30, 20:11, 20:13, 20:23, 20:24, 23:14, 23:15, 23:23, 24:4, 25:20, 26:15, 29:8, 32:12, 32:26, 32:29, 34:7, 34:9, 34:29, 35:2, 35:19, 37:25, 39:25, 39:28, 41:11, 43:1, 44:2, 44:22, 46:23, 47:29, 48:9, 48:15, 49:4, 49:24, 51:8, 51:25, 55:8, 56:19, 65:3, 65:6, 65:16, 65:25, 66:24, 67:14, 67:24, 73:24, 75:3, 75:10, 80:7, 80:17, 105:13, 105:19, 106:2, 107:20, 108:24, 108:28, 117:20, 118:7, 118:11, 119:10, 120:15, 120:19, 120:20, 120:23, 120:25, 121:8, 122:16, 123:18, 124:8, 126:15, 126:26, 139:20, 140:21, 142:15, 142:19, 143:2, 146:12, 154:27
Durack [4] - 1:13, 84:23, 127:22, 128:18
DURACK [2] - 1:15, 84:25during [28] - 1:11, 6:16,
20:14, 20:16, 20:28, 21:20, 22:2, 29:12, 33:14, 46:21, 73:1, 73:3, 73:9, 73:10, 76:2, 87:25, 88:8, 88:10, 88:15, 89:20, 94:5, 117:19, 122:11, 123:5, 123:20, 133:14, 145:29, 146:22
dusted [1] - 38:18duties [22] - 2:6, 13:27,
17:27, 18:5, 18:7, 18:9, 28:2, 34:14, 35:17, 50:29, 51:14, 52:29, 82:12, 95:20, 97:6, 106:26, 115:4, 120:18, 124:5, 131:16, 147:22, 153:8
duty [32] - 9:17, 13:6, 20:25, 25:19, 28:12, 28:13, 28:23, 29:9, 29:10, 29:12, 29:14, 32:28, 54:4, 64:23, 66:19, 66:24, 68:10, 71:20, 72:3, 72:17, 78:2, 95:23, 97:3, 97:15, 106:22, 106:29, 124:3, 124:9, 124:27, 126:9, 131:15, 152:27
dwelled [1] - 74:4
EE) [1] - 102:4E4 [1] - 133:18early [8] - 2:29, 4:20,
5:14, 6:19, 87:25, 105:27, 112:6, 117:7
earn [2] - 40:16, 40:18easier [1] - 120:9easily [4] - 29:26, 46:22,
64:3, 146:30east [1] - 97:12East [8] - 89:29, 89:30,
97:26, 98:16, 99:7, 100:3, 101:2, 102:22
easy [1] - 63:18Edenappa [2] - 130:23,
130:28Edward [1] - 86:12effect [9] - 2:30, 13:28,
15:25, 19:10, 53:2, 53:13, 53:14, 54:14, 79:24
effective [2] - 38:6, 134:2effectively [10] - 28:7,
33:3, 38:27, 53:11, 67:8, 88:12, 102:15, 103:16, 111:4, 122:16
efficient [2] - 21:18, 117:3
effort [1] - 140:22efforts [1] - 21:19eight [3] - 47:9, 66:20,
134:28eight-hour [1] - 66:20either [16] - 28:29, 46:15,
52:7, 52:10, 52:14, 55:5, 79:21, 89:4, 91:2, 129:9, 129:11, 130:3, 132:4, 141:6, 143:23, 152:5
elaborate [6] - 10:6, 104:26, 112:1, 125:2, 143:21, 143:23
emanating [1] - 145:13embarrassment [1] -
33:30emphasis [1] - 2:23employment [3] - 17:26,
18:7, 54:9enable [1] - 55:17end [5] - 46:30, 59:2,
64:2, 95:20, 124:19energy [1] - 80:18enforced [1] - 54:16
engage [1] - 11:11engaged [5] - 10:9,
18:12, 63:4, 63:8, 139:4England [4] - 88:4,
116:16, 125:29, 125:30enhance [1] - 153:21enjoy [1] - 71:9enjoyed [1] - 21:16Enniskillen [1] - 87:12enormous [1] - 155:18ensure [2] - 58:3, 147:7enter [2] - 25:18, 32:28entire [10] - 44:1, 45:24,
47:21, 48:8, 70:29, 89:13, 90:4, 108:21, 131:10, 133:10
entirely [5] - 103:8, 111:22, 130:21, 147:23, 149:8
entities [1] - 91:21entitled [13] - 40:26,
43:24, 51:10, 58:10, 59:14, 60:18, 63:26, 64:5, 64:9, 66:4, 66:6, 67:13, 81:21
entity [1] - 67:2entries [3] - 106:16,
123:28, 153:24entry [20] - 93:25, 95:11,
95:13, 95:16, 95:24, 96:2, 96:29, 97:1, 106:15, 106:17, 106:18, 106:21, 107:14, 110:12, 120:1, 120:3, 120:4, 124:2, 143:7
environment [2] - 150:11, 152:1
envisaged [1] - 70:6equal [1] - 89:17equally [1] - 99:26equivalent [1] - 92:3era [1] - 132:2erroneously [1] - 53:21escort [4] - 151:6, 151:9,
151:11, 152:5escorted [4] - 45:7,
120:29, 121:29, 126:24especially [2] - 11:16,
13:30essence [1] - 15:9essentially [4] - 105:1,
105:15, 150:4, 152:3establish [5] - 61:17,
70:7, 73:21, 79:6, 116:28
established [4] - 36:7, 71:21, 79:19, 129:28
establishments [1] - 91:17
et [1] - 97:5etc [1] - 124:3evening [9] - 93:19,
93:21, 102:11, 102:26, 103:7, 103:14, 112:17, 116:3
event [9] - 18:16, 48:26, 73:21, 76:27, 94:24, 116:1, 137:26, 142:26,
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154:3event' [1] - 12:6events [21] - 4:7, 5:17,
34:11, 36:13, 43:22, 53:5, 69:16, 70:8, 70:18, 70:29, 79:6, 84:15, 93:12, 96:30, 99:20, 112:17, 115:18, 117:6, 140:25, 140:26
eventually [2] - 4:15, 8:7everyday [2] - 117:28,
149:18Evidence [1] - 132:20evidence [59] - 2:5, 2:30,
5:28, 6:21, 8:16, 16:1, 18:12, 21:2, 41:18, 42:8, 42:12, 42:17, 42:21, 44:8, 61:2, 61:16, 61:25, 62:22, 63:1, 63:24, 66:1, 66:2, 66:15, 67:16, 67:17, 67:18, 67:21, 67:22, 67:25, 70:11, 71:22, 73:26, 73:29, 75:6, 75:26, 77:30, 80:16, 84:19, 85:23, 90:17, 93:2, 98:21, 104:17, 108:25, 125:13, 130:22, 132:7, 132:19, 135:12, 141:26, 141:27, 141:28, 143:5, 144:6, 144:13, 147:26, 150:29, 155:9
ex [4] - 116:6, 116:26, 134:21, 134:23
ex-directory [3] - 116:6, 134:21, 134:23
exact [2] - 45:27, 122:19exactly [8] - 10:26, 23:13,
96:18, 98:23, 117:3, 133:26, 139:2, 146:8
exaggerated [1] - 57:27examination [5] - 40:30,
88:8, 152:24, 154:20, 154:22
examination-in-chief [1] - 154:22
examine [1] - 81:10EXAMINED [20] - 1:5, 1:6,
1:7, 1:8, 1:9, 1:11, 1:12, 1:13, 1:14, 1:15, 2:1, 49:18, 57:6, 69:7, 77:12, 87:1, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28, 152:22
examined [1] - 60:4examining [1] - 81:7example [9] - 13:5, 39:9,
39:14, 39:16, 89:28, 94:21, 151:2, 151:6, 152:5
excellent [1] - 21:16exceptionally [1] - 40:28exchange [2] - 118:18,
119:11exclude [2] - 52:4, 138:13excluded [2] - 55:25,
122:21excluding [2] - 138:22,
138:24
exclusion [1] - 122:20excuse [1] - 116:10execute [2] - 47:24, 47:26executed [2] - 47:17,
110:6execution [1] - 53:26executive [2] - 90:14,
144:4exhausted [1] - 53:6exigencies [1] - 92:19exist [1] - 101:13existed [2] - 62:20, 132:2exists [1] - 32:11expand [3] - 81:20, 125:3,
150:28expect [2] - 56:25, 69:26expected [10] - 28:27,
29:3, 51:24, 69:16, 69:20, 93:6, 129:14, 130:18, 149:19, 153:19
expecting [3] - 15:24, 78:14, 103:11
expeditious [1] - 38:9experience [3] - 13:20,
49:23, 137:26experienced [4] - 11:26,
24:11, 147:21, 149:5experiences [1] - 119:20explain [12] - 15:15,
27:15, 88:26, 89:6, 89:26, 90:7, 93:25, 94:14, 95:2, 119:18, 119:19, 153:6
explained [2] - 80:2, 80:24
explanation [3] - 22:22, 66:26, 96:15
exposed [1] - 41:25express [4] - 55:27,
124:30, 146:23expressed [9] - 18:24,
44:19, 55:11, 93:2, 99:30, 100:14, 125:21, 146:17, 146:20
extant [2] - 113:2, 113:8extended [1] - 11:18extent [5] - 11:19, 24:14,
26:24, 75:17, 118:3extra [2] - 81:26, 109:6extracted [1] - 129:11extracurricular [1] -
11:29extraditions [1] - 22:16extremely [6] - 21:18,
100:9, 125:25, 142:8, 149:5, 149:6
extremes [1] - 141:11eye [1] - 149:26
Fface [17] - 104:12, 105:2,
105:6, 105:9, 113:7, 140:2, 150:11, 150:12, 150:22
face-to-face [8] - 104:12, 105:2, 105:6, 105:9, 140:2, 150:11, 150:12,
150:22faced [1] - 85:8facilitating [1] - 31:3facing [2] - 54:21, 107:5fact [51] - 3:16, 3:22,
6:10, 12:22, 16:7, 19:9, 20:4, 20:5, 20:26, 25:27, 34:2, 39:23, 42:22, 45:10, 49:13, 51:1, 51:3, 51:21, 52:4, 55:21, 55:25, 58:29, 59:1, 61:10, 64:11, 65:15, 67:7, 74:6, 76:4, 92:30, 93:24, 95:21, 99:26, 109:7, 112:14, 113:30, 115:19, 119:7, 120:7, 125:2, 132:21, 133:6, 138:13, 138:22, 139:2, 141:4, 141:13, 149:18, 149:25, 149:27, 152:3
fail [1] - 75:28failing [1] - 6:30failure [1] - 150:8fair [14] - 43:6, 58:10,
58:18, 58:21, 58:25, 58:27, 79:24, 121:16, 133:23, 133:25, 140:8, 140:15, 141:19, 143:19
fairly [2] - 28:6, 77:27fairness [6] - 58:3, 59:9,
59:14, 66:4, 66:5, 82:6faithfully [1] - 138:1fall [1] - 53:23falling [1] - 6:2falls [1] - 12:5false [2] - 57:27, 113:23familiar [6] - 27:18,
101:9, 125:15, 125:16, 149:6, 151:17
families [1] - 110:22family [8] - 19:22, 19:27,
20:3, 22:6, 24:1, 31:1, 40:25, 41:28
far [5] - 13:18, 72:5, 112:8, 144:13, 149:30
farm [1] - 94:11fashion [1] - 43:30father [3] - 3:23, 3:24,
3:25fault [1] - 115:16faults [1] - 43:26favour [1] - 24:19FDC [1] - 109:22fear [1] - 146:28fears [2] - 146:23, 146:24feature [2] - 53:22, 53:28February [9] - 6:19, 6:27,
15:27, 16:3, 50:25, 62:4, 80:3, 123:24, 143:1
feedback [1] - 107:4felt [7] - 21:28, 39:10,
64:13, 74:5, 126:8, 144:23, 149:21
Fergus [1] - 84:28Fermanagh [1] - 89:24few [9] - 28:3, 33:14,
33:18, 82:24, 92:17, 113:3, 113:4, 128:10, 128:20
figures [1] - 9:19file [8] - 8:24, 8:28, 8:29,
16:24, 50:11, 80:5, 84:28
fill [1] - 32:14filled [2] - 19:17, 32:14filling [1] - 144:14final [3] - 96:3, 123:28finally [1] - 154:18Finbarr [1] - 3:20findings [7] - 58:21, 59:3,
59:6, 59:24, 59:27, 60:3, 60:9
fine [6] - 38:5, 54:16, 59:26, 82:5, 115:27, 118:26
fined [2] - 36:3, 81:16fines [1] - 38:4finish [1] - 1:11finished [2] - 74:15,
97:22fire [2] - 29:7, 59:12first [35] - 6:22, 6:25,
10:13, 23:17, 35:26, 46:19, 49:24, 51:11, 66:2, 74:28, 76:18, 82:5, 84:27, 87:4, 88:25, 93:26, 101:9, 101:15, 102:13, 108:17, 110:14, 115:19, 118:7, 121:2, 127:16, 127:17, 132:26, 132:30, 141:27, 145:6, 146:6, 149:5, 152:24, 154:24, 156:4
fit [2] - 44:3, 44:4fits [1] - 90:8fitted [1] - 28:23Fitzsimons [7] - 118:14,
136:10, 136:18, 136:22, 136:28, 137:2
five [8] - 87:16, 97:20, 97:21, 116:3, 132:11, 139:2, 142:10, 154:25
fixed [1] - 132:5flaccid [1] - 152:1flash [1] - 22:14flats [1] - 32:22flesh [2] - 39:13, 39:15flexibility [2] - 13:7, 13:21flowing [1] - 90:6focus [3] - 7:3, 7:6, 41:21follow [2] - 26:12, 76:7followed [4] - 7:19, 47:3,
52:1, 122:2FOLLOWING [1] - 156:8following [13] - 5:13,
5:28, 8:8, 39:19, 46:22, 55:27, 69:12, 89:9, 110:28, 129:3, 135:13, 151:2, 151:9
follows [1] - 17:12FOLLOWS [13] - 1:2, 2:2,
49:19, 57:7, 69:7, 77:12, 84:1, 87:2, 128:12, 128:15, 139:15,
148:28, 152:22foot [2] - 99:22, 104:20footing [1] - 118:1FOR [1] - 83:4forbade [1] - 32:27force [9] - 5:11, 5:30,
15:18, 55:16, 126:4, 137:30, 144:4, 149:28
Force [17] - 3:25, 11:21, 14:15, 21:4, 27:17, 27:20, 32:25, 33:30, 35:7, 38:21, 38:22, 38:27, 39:11, 57:16, 65:10, 71:19, 76:24
forces [8] - 45:12, 118:4, 119:23, 125:30, 126:1, 139:25, 140:6, 145:25
foremost [1] - 70:5forensic [1] - 114:1forget [2] - 107:29, 125:7form [7] - 19:14, 19:16,
19:17, 48:19, 68:19, 89:11, 118:18
formal [4] - 139:26, 150:18, 150:19, 150:21
formed [3] - 12:11, 14:6, 51:17
former [1] - 87:6forms [1] - 100:19forth [6] - 2:17, 7:17,
11:2, 32:4, 38:12, 48:10fortnight [1] - 153:3fortuitous [1] - 68:23fortunately [1] - 126:17forward [3] - 64:9, 104:1forwarded [3] - 8:11,
102:13, 102:16four [8] - 3:13, 49:28,
87:20, 132:11, 132:21, 133:16, 142:11
France [1] - 126:1Francis [3] - 39:27, 39:30Frank [3] - 124:14,
135:15, 143:16fray [1] - 16:20free [3] - 34:8, 54:30,
144:16frequent [2] - 92:26,
117:27frequented [1] - 91:17frequently [9] - 9:16,
57:16, 92:28, 93:3, 117:18, 133:3, 133:8, 147:6, 147:13
fresh [1] - 23:8FRIDAY [1] - 156:8Friday [3] - 105:25,
107:23, 108:5Friend [1] - 70:9friend [1] - 124:13Friend's [1] - 148:23friendly [1] - 136:17friends [1] - 136:27frightening [1] - 134:22front [5] - 62:3, 103:20,
117:25, 120:5, 143:8frontier [1] - 117:25fruitful [1] - 119:11
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fruition [1] - 36:17frustrate [3] - 4:15, 38:27,
53:26frustrated [1] - 38:11frustrating [1] - 68:16fulfill [1] - 147:22full [5] - 59:15, 66:20,
82:29, 101:24, 103:11fully [2] - 103:12, 104:7function [9] - 93:14, 96:4,
96:7, 96:10, 96:11, 96:26, 111:4, 115:10, 147:23
functional [1] - 119:13functions [1] - 94:26fund [1] - 42:29funerals [4] - 73:11,
73:13, 145:26, 145:27furthermore [1] - 65:6future [2] - 14:3, 17:26
Ggarda [7] - 101:25,
118:27, 150:23, 151:9, 151:14, 151:17
Garda [70] - 6:11, 15:1, 16:8, 17:8, 21:10, 29:20, 33:11, 35:18, 40:21, 41:8, 41:11, 41:24, 41:26, 41:27, 48:23, 49:22, 55:8, 55:22, 57:10, 57:14, 57:22, 57:26, 58:3, 58:6, 58:10, 59:5, 60:2, 60:8, 62:12, 63:5, 63:16, 64:23, 65:16, 66:6, 76:14, 78:2, 90:12, 92:23, 98:13, 100:10, 104:2, 104:11, 104:13, 104:19, 105:1, 105:8, 105:16, 107:18, 108:30, 117:11, 117:20, 117:26, 118:6, 118:11, 119:9, 120:15, 120:20, 121:3, 122:15, 126:6, 126:15, 128:25, 128:27, 130:6, 139:8, 139:20, 140:1, 141:28, 146:13, 146:21
Gardai [5] - 51:16, 55:24, 65:15, 66:28, 72:23
Gardaí [2] - 129:15, 129:23
garnered [1] - 52:13gathered [2] - 92:10,
97:19geared [1] - 92:11general [15] - 2:6, 39:4,
39:5, 73:18, 92:2, 94:8, 97:6, 99:12, 103:14, 104:5, 114:18, 115:4, 124:5, 133:24, 148:4
General [2] - 101:18, 144:27
generally [8] - 4:23, 4:27, 13:29, 32:19, 34:1, 114:21, 122:26, 133:25
generated [1] - 135:17generous [1] - 13:23gentleman [2] - 29:8,
39:27gentlemen [2] - 5:27,
128:17gentlemen's [1] - 111:14genuinely [1] - 68:15Germany [1] - 125:30Gethins [1] - 136:16gist [1] - 19:29given [35] - 2:30, 10:25,
18:10, 18:17, 21:2, 31:3, 41:29, 42:7, 44:10, 44:12, 65:7, 71:25, 72:13, 72:26, 74:3, 75:6, 77:30, 87:7, 87:17, 96:19, 102:25, 104:21, 104:23, 104:24, 104:25, 104:27, 106:16, 113:29, 129:8, 129:19, 132:29, 134:22, 142:8, 145:4
GOC [6] - 101:16, 103:4, 103:5, 103:9, 103:18, 144:30
gossip [1] - 100:21Gough [4] - 91:11, 91:18,
91:19, 91:29Government [3] - 48:5,
88:30, 94:19grabbed [1] - 122:1gradually [1] - 118:25grand [1] - 11:4granted [1] - 82:27grateful [2] - 88:6, 155:22great [6] - 6:5, 40:10,
92:14, 94:13, 111:23, 147:14
greatly [1] - 155:23grinds [1] - 103:25ground [4] - 26:17, 90:2,
112:10, 112:14grounded [3] - 18:23,
20:3, 35:26grounds [2] - 20:2, 22:26group [1] - 97:7Group [1] - 97:7groups [3] - 12:1, 135:18,
140:23growing [1] - 27:5Guard [2] - 4:24, 11:23guard [1] - 17:29guarded [1] - 144:5guards [3] - 38:2, 38:7,
53:23guilty [2] - 59:20, 66:28gun [1] - 141:25
Hhabit [1] - 96:12haggard [1] - 89:1half [10] - 36:24, 36:26,
36:27, 39:2, 97:19, 112:28, 113:5, 138:10, 138:19, 147:5
hand [7] - 29:1, 95:16,
95:28, 114:21, 124:23, 142:28, 145:10
handed [1] - 15:9hands [2] - 50:12, 140:17handwriting [1] - 95:15hanging [1] - 3:3happily [1] - 134:4happy [4] - 76:1, 99:25,
120:8, 135:7Harcourt [3] - 19:2,
23:14, 53:13hard [4] - 100:9, 128:2,
151:24, 151:30Harry [36] - 90:27, 90:28,
91:23, 93:28, 97:11, 97:25, 98:2, 98:7, 98:9, 98:29, 99:1, 99:2, 99:4, 99:26, 101:26, 103:30, 104:30, 105:14, 105:17, 105:26, 106:1, 106:7, 107:25, 108:1, 108:23, 111:18, 115:13, 127:7, 136:4, 146:3, 146:5, 146:10, 146:14, 146:26, 149:1
harsh [4] - 38:25, 45:15, 59:19, 81:1
harshly [2] - 29:27, 64:5HAVING [2] - 2:1, 87:1Head [1] - 87:24head [9] - 39:7, 88:12,
92:29, 94:3, 111:5, 118:14, 119:2, 123:5, 136:22
headline [1] - 48:26Headquarters [22] - 6:11,
6:15, 21:11, 22:24, 23:19, 44:10, 51:28, 69:17, 88:16, 90:21, 90:22, 90:23, 91:28, 97:3, 97:4, 104:24, 106:22, 106:28, 122:8, 122:19, 124:3, 149:23
headquarters [2] - 91:12, 123:3
health [1] - 20:6healthy [1] - 68:25hear [2] - 39:22, 129:11heard [20] - 10:14, 21:9,
27:27, 28:13, 29:11, 30:9, 47:11, 58:14, 63:28, 75:26, 98:21, 108:25, 125:13, 126:6, 126:8, 126:16, 129:8, 132:7, 141:28
hearing [5] - 27:13, 29:26, 36:2, 64:4, 86:2
hearsay [1] - 66:13held [2] - 108:4, 137:27helicopter [3] - 132:10,
132:16, 132:26helicopters [2] - 132:8,
132:13hell [1] - 146:7helpful [1] - 136:29hence [2] - 15:22, 48:29hereby [1] - 19:18hereunder [1] - 23:29
Hermon [3] - 55:24, 94:24, 111:2
Hickey [2] - 3:20, 36:10hierarchical [3] - 90:24,
91:4, 125:5hierarchy [1] - 103:24High [1] - 38:12high [8] - 14:26, 56:26,
113:2, 123:2, 127:9, 135:16, 143:18, 149:23
higher [5] - 55:23, 81:30, 142:22, 143:26, 147:18
highest [2] - 20:17, 144:26
highly [6] - 100:23, 114:29, 121:11, 122:25, 150:7
hijacked [1] - 150:10hijacking [1] - 20:17himself [3] - 48:13, 79:12,
98:10hindsight [1] - 55:10historic [1] - 100:20historical [1] - 65:27historically [1] - 51:29history [17] - 7:12, 21:29,
21:30, 25:15, 26:18, 34:1, 38:28, 38:30, 47:5, 48:14, 61:18, 64:15, 76:1, 76:4, 76:7, 105:9
hmm [1] - 79:17home [8] - 31:4, 37:3,
40:25, 41:28, 63:8, 82:8, 93:29, 116:8
honest [3] - 126:7, 149:9honestly [1] - 135:11honesty [1] - 81:1Honour [1] - 149:5honourable [1] - 149:9hope [1] - 127:18hoping [1] - 140:22hopping [1] - 140:21hospitalisation [1] -
26:24hostility [2] - 25:16,
64:16hour [6] - 1:11, 66:20,
82:29, 112:28, 113:5, 138:10
hour.. [1] - 138:19hours [7] - 107:2, 116:5,
116:6, 116:7, 134:25, 135:20, 152:27
house [13] - 20:4, 24:2, 29:7, 32:20, 32:22, 32:23, 33:22, 40:3, 40:4, 59:12, 98:3, 99:29, 116:11
House [2] - 43:14, 43:18houses [3] - 11:2, 24:3,
33:19humble [1] - 145:17husband [1] - 26:26
Ii.e [1] - 26:18
idea [3] - 4:27, 112:25, 124:23
identifiable [1] - 146:30identification [1] - 116:23identified [3] - 63:15,
121:29, 132:23identifies [1] - 96:6identify [3] - 113:18,
113:20, 113:24identifying [2] - 41:1,
134:19identities [2] - 133:30,
134:6ignore [1] - 24:18ignored [1] - 127:20ignoring [1] - 28:4ill [6] - 22:3, 50:16, 95:4,
99:29, 100:6, 145:12ill-advised [3] - 99:29,
100:6, 145:12ill-treatment [1] - 22:3illegal [4] - 94:12, 100:23,
133:4, 133:8illegals [1] - 112:4illness [1] - 68:23imagine [3] - 11:14,
25:12, 59:17imagined [1] - 110:6immediate [10] - 5:20,
9:5, 21:21, 24:7, 25:14, 28:15, 90:19, 90:28, 91:2, 138:2
immediately [10] - 47:16, 53:1, 56:5, 56:11, 56:15, 69:16, 109:14, 110:8, 142:24, 153:21
immense [1] - 150:8impact [2] - 116:1, 116:2importance [2] - 6:6,
151:13important [12] - 10:15,
20:30, 22:1, 29:23, 41:22, 55:17, 56:27, 60:16, 141:26, 142:8, 150:13
importing [2] - 37:3, 63:8imposed [1] - 82:1impossible [2] - 45:23,
112:18impression [6] - 29:26,
40:23, 41:29, 64:3, 67:10, 75:6
improper [2] - 79:9, 80:28improve [1] - 90:12imprudent [1] - 16:7in.. [1] - 38:27inaccurate [2] - 104:22,
127:5incident [8] - 25:17,
28:26, 48:19, 67:17, 119:29, 126:23, 126:27, 132:17
incidents [7] - 12:30, 20:16, 27:30, 45:4, 45:12, 48:17, 56:28
inclined [2] - 24:18, 55:28include [1] - 92:7included [10] - 65:30,
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70:30, 73:4, 78:2, 78:11, 98:6, 98:8, 104:2, 105:1, 109:2
includes [3] - 152:27, 152:28
including [5] - 7:21, 9:28, 38:12, 98:6, 101:25
inconceivable [1] - 108:29
inconvenience [1] - 100:26
increased [1] - 5:17increases [1] - 152:12indeed [22] - 1:5, 2:18,
7:11, 8:28, 13:22, 14:13, 22:28, 47:16, 48:29, 51:27, 58:4, 61:29, 65:8, 66:16, 76:2, 103:25, 123:18, 132:26, 136:21, 137:30, 149:10, 155:16
independence [1] - 144:5independent [1] - 69:20indicate [4] - 61:16,
98:29, 112:5, 141:3indicated [5] - 101:10,
102:19, 112:2, 125:18, 154:26
indicates [5] - 98:30, 99:1, 99:2, 102:23
indicating [2] - 72:1, 102:25
indication [5] - 68:12, 145:5, 145:6, 145:7, 151:13
indicative [2] - 65:15, 111:22
indirectly [1] - 52:15indiscretion [1] - 21:22indiscretions [2] - 24:16,
24:19individual [12] - 3:4, 11:9,
61:17, 100:22, 100:27, 130:10, 130:21, 134:18, 140:2, 140:3, 150:23, 152:11
individuals [2] - 113:14, 114:19
inevitable [1] - 38:26inevitably [1] - 15:5inform [4] - 8:3, 17:25,
130:2, 130:14informant [6] - 48:28,
92:17, 120:22, 120:26, 141:13, 147:30
informants [2] - 42:26, 76:1
information [62] - 4:22, 6:4, 6:10, 6:15, 8:11, 8:25, 8:27, 12:1, 12:3, 12:6, 12:28, 24:20, 36:30, 37:16, 43:22, 43:27, 44:10, 44:12, 46:6, 46:13, 46:15, 46:19, 52:9, 56:3, 56:7, 56:14, 62:22, 65:27, 66:9, 70:19, 74:4, 75:5, 80:4, 80:8, 82:16, 87:7,
92:16, 92:21, 93:4, 100:19, 100:25, 103:17, 111:28, 113:26, 118:4, 118:19, 119:12, 126:11, 126:14, 133:23, 134:6, 134:30, 135:8, 138:14, 138:23, 139:6, 140:10, 140:12, 142:12, 142:27, 143:27, 150:21
informed [15] - 17:30, 22:21, 22:23, 33:17, 44:9, 55:5, 67:29, 68:2, 69:25, 70:9, 88:3, 130:27, 132:20, 135:4, 139:7
informing [1] - 22:20initial [3] - 132:12, 140:8,
144:29initiate [2] - 61:28, 63:24initiated [6] - 52:7, 62:26,
98:1, 139:21, 139:28, 145:11
injunctions [1] - 38:12inquire [1] - 48:2inquired [2] - 33:22,
57:15inquiries [6] - 16:27,
33:15, 55:26, 57:11, 71:17, 72:29
inquiring [2] - 33:19, 71:26
Inquiry [3] - 41:21, 60:26, 87:30
inquiry [23] - 15:5, 16:23, 27:28, 30:11, 36:5, 36:6, 36:10, 36:14, 36:16, 37:6, 37:24, 37:28, 38:15, 38:17, 40:21, 41:25, 48:29, 58:8, 63:24, 76:9, 82:8, 82:9, 82:11
inside [1] - 115:28insight [1] - 133:21insofar [3] - 51:18, 52:29,
122:22inspected [1] - 118:28inspection [1] - 3:18Inspector [17] - 5:19,
5:20, 14:16, 14:17, 25:15, 33:18, 35:1, 52:2, 56:22, 56:30, 71:5, 77:23, 87:19, 87:21, 88:11, 117:8, 137:3
Inspectors [1] - 142:17instance [5] - 56:13,
66:19, 66:22, 92:16, 114:14
instances [2] - 45:6, 66:17
instead [1] - 109:8instigated [3] - 16:16,
16:20, 150:18instructed [1] - 86:11instructions [1] - 91:5integral [2] - 104:13,
129:16intelligence [20] - 4:22,
13:14, 13:16, 52:13, 92:7, 100:12, 100:19, 100:27, 117:3, 126:14, 133:14, 134:2, 137:15, 137:17, 137:20, 137:22, 139:9, 139:24, 146:19
intelligence' [1] - 100:18intended [5] - 84:13,
84:17, 108:18, 109:26, 130:15
intention [3] - 32:13, 110:19, 129:3
interaction [2] - 54:20, 123:19
intercept [1] - 150:9interdiction [1] - 149:29interest [2] - 12:26, 134:5interested [1] - 39:23interesting [1] - 78:27interests [13] - 18:14,
18:18, 32:19, 34:2, 38:8, 40:3, 41:10, 41:12, 50:20, 51:18, 55:1, 92:19, 140:6
interpretation [3] - 103:16, 103:23, 144:29
interpreted [1] - 143:20interpreting [1] - 113:9interrelationship [1] -
89:26interruption [1] - 103:2interview [8] - 69:29,
70:7, 72:6, 73:1, 73:20, 75:19, 79:10, 79:11
interviewed [6] - 74:13, 77:16, 77:29, 78:21, 78:22, 78:26
interviews [1] - 4:25intimately [1] - 98:10intimidation [1] - 22:7intrigue [1] - 48:19introduced [2] - 121:14,
121:18introducing [1] - 120:23invariably [1] - 147:9investigate [15] - 15:2,
16:10, 17:14, 35:20, 38:17, 39:8, 48:4, 63:16, 63:23, 69:17, 69:21, 73:30, 78:15, 79:21, 144:22
investigated [9] - 22:20, 26:15, 29:20, 48:27, 63:20, 68:24, 71:9, 74:7, 79:15
investigating [6] - 15:1, 16:10, 17:9, 28:17, 36:8, 36:9
investigation [36] - 15:4, 15:7, 16:24, 16:30, 22:23, 28:15, 28:20, 28:25, 30:12, 38:22, 48:11, 58:25, 66:2, 67:7, 68:1, 70:15, 70:27, 71:10, 72:2, 73:14, 74:12, 74:18, 75:1, 76:16, 77:17, 78:18, 78:20, 79:1,
79:5, 79:8, 79:23, 144:8, 153:21
investigations [2] - 20:30, 21:2
invite [2] - 65:11, 94:18invited [4] - 94:14, 94:18,
109:27, 127:8inviting [1] - 94:17invoke [1] - 51:10involve [4] - 28:21, 75:27,
92:26, 117:16involved [37] - 8:21, 10:7,
10:27, 11:29, 12:29, 13:1, 20:29, 28:14, 28:20, 28:24, 30:12, 30:15, 30:16, 37:2, 41:23, 48:11, 57:20, 61:3, 61:10, 61:11, 61:22, 61:25, 62:9, 62:13, 62:29, 63:11, 67:30, 79:20, 79:27, 98:19, 112:11, 113:28, 114:1, 122:12, 139:8, 148:2
involvement [7] - 7:1, 28:1, 61:30, 62:26, 72:9, 75:7, 76:1
involving [4] - 17:29, 45:12, 67:18, 119:30
IRA [24] - 11:17, 43:10, 43:20, 45:20, 47:18, 56:7, 61:4, 61:12, 110:6, 112:23, 113:3, 113:28, 114:8, 116:28, 133:3, 133:13, 133:22, 133:26, 134:4, 134:9, 134:11, 140:13, 146:4, 147:1
Ireland [8] - 88:2, 110:15, 125:28, 145:19, 145:21, 149:24, 151:21, 155:17
Irish [5] - 5:13, 89:9, 117:29, 142:22, 150:19
irregularities [1] - 15:3irritated [1] - 145:20issue [19] - 50:19, 51:6,
55:4, 55:8, 56:9, 57:15, 63:9, 73:2, 73:27, 73:29, 77:28, 81:26, 93:8, 102:27, 103:10, 105:20, 108:8, 150:23, 154:29
issued [8] - 7:17, 9:20, 35:13, 35:24, 54:2, 101:30, 102:4, 111:18
issues [5] - 52:18, 110:20, 119:9, 124:15, 150:21
items [1] - 10:30itself [3] - 55:16, 71:1,
81:17
JJanuary [4] - 35:13,
36:19, 36:23, 56:19jealously [1] - 144:5Jeffrey [1] - 43:14
job [5] - 41:26, 89:1, 93:6, 115:3, 152:7
JOHN [2] - 1:4, 2:1John [6] - 1:18, 28:9,
55:24, 66:22, 94:23, 111:2
join [1] - 146:3joined [2] - 87:11, 137:2joint [2] - 104:10, 124:7journal [16] - 95:19,
96:24, 97:21, 118:28, 123:23, 123:26, 123:28, 124:25, 138:1, 143:1, 143:7, 143:9, 152:26, 152:27, 153:24
journals [2] - 72:16, 96:13
judge [3] - 123:14, 123:21, 142:10
Judge [3] - 6:20, 39:5, 45:19
judgement [2] - 21:30, 100:12
judges [1] - 21:4July [1] - 28:9June [3] - 11:22, 11:25,
20:13junior [2] - 76:13, 127:9jurisdiction [3] - 51:7,
120:24, 142:13jurisdictions [1] - 100:9justice [1] - 39:10Justice [1] - 27:21
Kkeep [5] - 11:27, 12:10,
73:19, 114:14, 122:27keeping [1] - 52:27kept [3] - 52:20, 90:6,
92:10KIB [1] - 133:2kidnapped [1] - 39:20kill [4] - 112:30, 138:29,
140:23, 145:25killed [4] - 114:2, 123:20,
136:12, 136:13killers [1] - 47:20killing [2] - 61:4, 61:13killings [7] - 48:8, 70:20,
87:30, 109:15, 111:30, 114:4, 115:19
kind [1] - 108:9kindred [2] - 112:27,
134:9King [2] - 93:15, 94:2Kintyre [1] - 136:14Knock [2] - 88:16, 122:17knowing [1] - 103:23knowledge [18] - 2:19,
21:25, 36:16, 43:21, 67:14, 67:16, 68:2, 69:14, 72:11, 75:12, 75:25, 112:21, 116:20, 129:20, 131:23, 133:13, 135:8, 137:1
known [14] - 2:14, 29:24, 33:20, 46:22, 51:28,
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55:29, 56:3, 56:10, 112:4, 124:22, 134:1, 135:17, 135:27
knows [1] - 46:28
Llabels [2] - 149:12,
149:14ladies [1] - 128:17lady [2] - 20:8, 26:25land [1] - 132:6land-line [1] - 132:6lanes [1] - 135:26large [2] - 72:28, 139:7largely [1] - 16:16larger [1] - 10:24last [13] - 2:4, 9:6, 14:30,
27:3, 27:8, 32:21, 33:14, 33:18, 35:11, 47:13, 77:15, 82:7, 127:2
late [8] - 9:10, 25:22, 25:24, 95:29, 96:1, 96:22, 111:28, 135:14
laterally [2] - 16:29, 63:7latest [1] - 96:16launched [1] - 36:4Lawrence [2] - 32:21,
40:4lax [1] - 149:15lay [2] - 27:16, 27:22layer [1] - 142:22lead [4] - 35:11, 134:29,
141:14, 144:28leading [2] - 4:8, 93:12leak [17] - 48:2, 48:6,
49:4, 49:5, 49:9, 70:1, 70:10, 70:16, 73:2, 73:6, 73:26, 74:5, 74:11, 74:21, 74:27, 76:22
leaks [1] - 73:19lean [1] - 107:6learn [1] - 131:30Learned [1] - 70:9learned [3] - 43:22,
114:1, 147:26learnt [3] - 24:30, 56:13,
114:5least [4] - 34:29, 36:27,
40:18, 132:7leave [21] - 15:22, 16:23,
23:24, 36:13, 37:1, 37:4, 46:25, 47:1, 68:6, 68:7, 68:13, 68:15, 85:22, 88:2, 99:3, 102:14, 106:5, 155:9, 156:4
leaving [5] - 39:11, 46:2, 46:10, 47:4, 73:24
led [2] - 70:8, 70:29left [19] - 13:11, 19:7,
29:2, 36:23, 37:25, 45:1, 47:19, 48:10, 71:2, 71:3, 76:24, 97:20, 97:22, 105:14, 105:17, 105:26, 105:29,
108:1, 123:5legitimate [2] - 42:2,
113:12lengthy [1] - 20:25Leo [1] - 3:9less [8] - 21:30, 47:6,
82:1, 82:2, 126:5, 152:4, 152:7
letter [10] - 19:13, 19:21, 22:28, 23:17, 30:5, 32:7, 62:2, 63:10, 64:1, 101:16
letters [1] - 21:9level [25] - 21:7, 23:19,
52:22, 52:24, 52:25, 55:23, 72:26, 75:11, 81:30, 99:10, 109:1, 124:17, 125:12, 127:9, 127:12, 135:16, 139:23, 139:24, 139:25, 139:28, 142:9, 143:18, 144:26, 147:18
levels [1] - 143:26liaise [3] - 91:6, 129:15,
136:8liaised [1] - 90:15liaising [1] - 92:23liaison [2] - 88:27, 98:12life [16] - 26:2, 92:30,
111:24, 116:13, 119:21, 126:7, 126:21, 126:28, 140:17, 140:27, 141:4, 141:10, 141:23, 141:29, 149:18, 155:20
light [2] - 90:19, 143:28likely [1] - 114:9Limavady [1] - 87:12limited [2] - 123:8, 154:2Line [1] - 1:3line [4] - 42:20, 96:3,
117:25, 132:6link [1] - 61:13linked [2] - 75:25, 114:3linking [1] - 10:5links [1] - 74:23Lisburn [1] - 97:10list [21] - 71:4, 71:11,
71:15, 71:16, 71:22, 71:23, 71:28, 72:4, 72:10, 72:11, 72:13, 72:17, 72:22, 72:24, 72:25, 77:28, 78:1, 78:11, 87:5, 131:15
listen [1] - 126:21listening [2] - 24:30, 42:7literally [3] - 13:6, 28:1,
149:19lived [2] - 116:30, 120:23lives [3] - 119:27, 141:12,
141:24local [8] - 2:24, 94:1,
113:10, 122:15, 122:20, 122:28, 135:25
locals [1] - 135:27located [2] - 91:12, 136:2location [1] - 135:24locker [1] - 111:18lockers [3] - 111:10,
111:12, 111:15lodge [1] - 19:30log [1] - 130:14logbook [6] - 25:18,
35:30, 59:4, 59:25, 81:16
logbooks [2] - 7:17, 9:19logic [2] - 151:2, 151:9logical [3] - 74:22, 74:28,
75:18logistically [1] - 45:22London [1] - 43:15look [8] - 39:7, 41:10,
46:18, 58:20, 59:23, 62:2, 74:22, 74:29
looked [2] - 70:5, 153:24looking [2] - 39:13, 44:1loses [2] - 84:17, 137:25lost [1] - 126:29Lough [1] - 45:24Louth/Meath [1] - 20:30lowers [1] - 95:12lucky [2] - 46:16, 46:17lunch [1] - 1:11LUNCH [2] - 83:4, 84:1lunchtime [1] - 112:7Lurgan [1] - 87:15lying [1] - 132:12
Mmachine [2] - 103:25,
110:4MacNulty [2] - 28:9,
66:22Magherafelt [1] - 87:17magic [1] - 61:13magnitude [1] - 100:14main [2] - 114:24, 114:25Mains [2] - 97:27, 108:26mains [1] - 127:1maintain [3] - 85:11,
95:18, 114:9maintained [1] - 12:11major [2] - 45:12, 107:20male [1] - 94:4malice [1] - 68:12man [10] - 28:9, 29:23,
29:25, 30:3, 34:27, 35:6, 64:3, 95:6, 111:23, 126:7
manageable [1] - 107:7managed [4] - 11:27,
12:9, 24:12, 77:21manner [1] - 41:14maps [1] - 104:5March [28] - 22:18, 32:21,
93:19, 93:22, 95:9, 95:12, 95:14, 96:2, 96:10, 97:1, 97:3, 97:17, 98:6, 102:9, 102:21, 102:24, 103:28, 106:8, 106:9, 106:14, 106:22, 107:15, 117:6, 129:1, 129:4, 130:24, 144:11, 154:24
Margaret [1] - 89:10margins [1] - 150:22
mark [1] - 18:6Mark [1] - 69:10massive [1] - 145:27MAT [1] - 142:11material [1] - 135:1matter [50] - 9:6, 9:11,
10:17, 12:26, 16:1, 16:6, 17:14, 18:21, 22:20, 22:23, 23:26, 27:12, 27:26, 31:14, 31:27, 34:25, 37:11, 37:17, 38:15, 38:21, 40:5, 40:7, 40:10, 43:11, 46:2, 46:5, 51:7, 60:23, 63:17, 63:20, 81:4, 81:20, 84:13, 84:17, 87:30, 96:22, 101:19, 101:24, 102:26, 106:25, 111:27, 113:3, 121:19, 130:8, 131:2, 138:7, 140:21, 152:24, 154:19, 154:21
matters [36] - 2:6, 2:7, 2:19, 7:3, 7:4, 7:6, 10:14, 14:10, 14:29, 16:4, 16:10, 17:3, 17:7, 18:1, 19:21, 19:27, 21:28, 29:19, 35:28, 39:7, 42:6, 60:21, 67:4, 67:8, 77:7, 80:14, 81:1, 81:9, 82:5, 106:23, 106:26, 108:9, 110:21, 128:30, 144:1, 149:30
maze [1] - 45:29McGuinness [14] - 1:6,
1:12, 49:18, 49:21, 49:22, 57:4, 127:23, 128:14, 128:18, 128:20, 128:24, 128:27, 139:12
mean [20] - 5:25, 33:6, 34:5, 34:13, 46:9, 48:15, 48:24, 51:24, 53:17, 70:24, 74:7, 76:5, 76:6, 79:2, 80:30, 92:15, 100:18, 111:25, 113:9, 150:18
mean.. [1] - 30:10means [8] - 38:6, 52:10,
53:25, 70:25, 79:24, 112:30, 131:29, 132:25
meant [2] - 46:15, 88:12meantime [3] - 14:11,
15:28, 77:21media [1] - 48:24medical [12] - 26:18,
26:19, 26:22, 26:26, 31:2, 37:13, 53:29, 68:7, 68:18, 68:20, 68:28, 69:1
meet [15] - 88:29, 104:19, 105:6, 105:8, 107:19, 110:27, 118:30, 120:22, 120:25, 120:26, 121:3, 140:29, 143:18, 151:27, 154:10
meeting [60] - 10:3, 13:10, 46:30, 55:23, 76:18, 97:10, 97:16,
97:18, 97:19, 97:24, 97:30, 98:6, 98:7, 98:8, 98:16, 98:17, 98:22, 99:5, 100:2, 103:4, 103:27, 103:29, 104:1, 104:11, 104:12, 104:17, 105:12, 105:21, 105:22, 105:27, 105:29, 106:3, 106:8, 107:18, 107:30, 108:3, 108:4, 108:24, 108:29, 118:26, 121:22, 124:5, 124:12, 124:25, 127:6, 127:10, 129:4, 130:6, 138:5, 142:11, 144:30, 145:7, 146:21, 153:1, 153:3, 153:20, 154:27
Meeting [2] - 101:21, 101:22
meetings [8] - 13:13, 73:9, 105:20, 125:16, 129:1, 138:6, 150:18, 150:20
Member [2] - 20:14, 21:14member [31] - 3:20, 7:29,
10:1, 11:10, 13:20, 13:26, 19:11, 21:3, 24:27, 29:1, 31:4, 34:2, 35:6, 37:27, 38:19, 38:21, 38:22, 38:27, 41:11, 41:24, 41:26, 41:27, 53:21, 56:7, 57:14, 58:3, 63:5, 63:16, 65:10, 66:5, 141:28
member's [3] - 23:21, 23:23, 31:1
members [34] - 3:8, 7:21, 9:20, 9:27, 10:10, 14:15, 15:17, 15:18, 15:19, 21:1, 21:19, 22:7, 27:17, 29:24, 33:30, 40:11, 40:21, 41:8, 50:20, 53:15, 57:10, 57:22, 57:26, 58:10, 60:2, 60:8, 62:12, 71:19, 72:4, 78:5, 85:21, 86:2, 119:23, 120:10
memo [2] - 31:13, 31:14memorable [1] - 106:11memory [1] - 110:12men [9] - 39:2, 110:15,
110:17, 113:12, 113:28, 129:9, 146:7, 149:9, 149:11
mention [10] - 8:18, 74:2, 75:19, 75:28, 80:1, 98:16, 143:14, 144:16, 144:17, 146:10
mentioned [19] - 6:17, 30:6, 35:21, 40:2, 62:29, 74:2, 76:27, 77:16, 98:15, 125:25, 127:10, 136:10, 140:25, 143:5, 143:16, 144:12, 144:15, 144:18, 147:25
Mercedes [2] - 147:15,
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147:16merely [8] - 8:3, 18:13,
62:17, 65:28, 66:9, 68:30, 132:21, 145:2
merit [1] - 24:9messages [1] - 113:4met [25] - 3:17, 4:24,
4:28, 26:25, 47:13, 48:10, 71:2, 76:25, 76:26, 76:28, 109:19, 120:15, 120:20, 121:7, 121:10, 121:13, 123:23, 124:8, 124:20, 126:7, 143:2, 152:30, 153:18, 154:5, 154:14
method [2] - 114:27, 132:4
methodologies [1] - 114:26
methodology [5] - 93:8, 93:10, 104:3, 114:20, 130:11
meticulous [2] - 153:15, 153:16
meticulously [1] - 153:13miasmic [1] - 140:19microphone [1] - 107:4midday [1] - 135:15middle [1] - 145:29midnight [1] - 121:1might [29] - 4:13, 5:7,
6:26, 13:3, 27:6, 45:6, 46:14, 49:2, 52:13, 76:10, 77:22, 79:18, 87:9, 99:16, 106:19, 114:4, 114:24, 120:7, 120:9, 123:27, 129:25, 130:18, 130:20, 131:22, 134:10, 138:22, 149:11, 152:29
mightn't [1] - 138:18mild [1] - 3:6mileage [6] - 7:16, 9:19,
25:18, 152:28, 153:5, 153:10
miles [1] - 89:14Military [1] - 124:7military [14] - 89:12,
89:15, 91:12, 91:13, 91:30, 92:6, 92:7, 92:20, 94:9, 103:6, 103:9, 103:24, 106:26, 108:8
mill [1] - 126:4Mills [11] - 6:22, 19:26,
93:24, 95:12, 95:30, 96:29, 101:6, 106:15, 120:2, 120:8, 123:27
mind [10] - 1:6, 47:11, 47:16, 47:26, 56:29, 70:17, 71:7, 91:3, 95:22, 149:20
mine [2] - 62:28, 124:13Minister [1] - 89:10minor [14] - 45:29, 57:23,
59:28, 59:30, 60:2, 60:9, 80:14, 80:19, 81:4, 81:9, 81:19,
81:21, 81:24, 135:25minute [4] - 16:3, 19:13,
32:6, 127:2minutes [8] - 46:2, 46:10,
73:24, 82:24, 98:4, 107:20, 107:26, 128:10
misbehaviour [1] - 60:11missing [1] - 9:16mistake [2] - 2:11, 19:25misunderstood [1] -
136:1misuse [1] - 66:15mixed [1] - 44:27mobile [2] - 132:3, 151:26mobilise [2] - 114:12,
139:1mobilised [2] - 113:4,
133:10mole [24] - 43:27, 47:15,
48:11, 48:14, 48:26, 48:28, 49:10, 49:12, 55:4, 55:8, 55:14, 55:15, 55:22, 56:10, 70:15, 70:22, 70:26, 73:2, 73:6, 73:26, 74:21, 76:10, 76:20
moles [5] - 48:14, 48:20, 48:21, 73:19, 76:1
moment [4] - 8:13, 31:8, 80:30, 85:22
momentum [1] - 4:7Monaghan [3] - 45:24,
125:14, 125:17Monday [7] - 105:28,
106:3, 106:8, 106:14, 106:22, 107:15, 107:23
monetary [1] - 54:16mongers [1] - 126:4monitor [1] - 132:16month [3] - 75:22, 77:26,
108:13month's [1] - 108:12monthly [1] - 108:4months [9] - 36:27,
87:11, 87:16, 95:5, 118:7, 123:15, 142:9, 145:23, 147:3
monument [1] - 146:4mood [1] - 3:5morale [1] - 13:28morning [11] - 1:5, 1:7,
55:12, 84:27, 106:8, 107:15, 108:16, 154:23, 155:1, 156:6
Morrissey [7] - 25:22, 25:25, 25:26, 25:27, 64:25, 65:12
most [22] - 20:15, 20:23, 20:29, 24:16, 28:2, 36:24, 38:11, 40:15, 47:6, 60:16, 69:22, 76:11, 76:13, 78:23, 79:9, 79:22, 119:22, 126:3, 126:7, 133:9, 150:13, 151:20
mostly [3] - 10:29, 11:8, 38:7
motorcars [1] - 34:23
mount [7] - 100:10, 100:21, 104:3, 112:23, 112:28, 133:8, 145:9
mounted [2] - 113:27, 133:4
move [1] - 25:1moved [3] - 39:26,
116:16, 122:7Movement [1] - 121:11movements [2] - 43:28,
46:14moving [3] - 38:9, 74:20,
104:10MPs [1] - 153:12MR [76] - 1:5, 1:6, 1:7,
1:8, 1:9, 1:11, 1:12, 1:13, 1:14, 1:15, 1:4, 1:15, 1:17, 2:1, 2:4, 40:20, 41:6, 41:20, 42:5, 49:16, 49:18, 49:21, 57:4, 57:6, 57:9, 69:3, 69:5, 69:7, 69:9, 77:3, 77:7, 77:12, 77:14, 81:7, 81:24, 81:26, 82:21, 82:26, 84:6, 84:11, 84:21, 84:25, 84:27, 85:2, 85:11, 85:16, 85:18, 85:26, 86:4, 87:2, 87:4, 107:13, 110:26, 127:14, 127:22, 127:28, 128:2, 128:6, 128:14, 128:20, 128:24, 139:12, 139:14, 139:17, 148:10, 148:14, 148:20, 148:22, 148:28, 148:30, 152:17, 152:22, 152:24, 155:5, 155:12, 155:28
MS [3] - 86:11, 86:17, 148:16
Mull [1] - 136:13multiple [1] - 45:20murder [10] - 66:21,
67:18, 106:27, 116:3, 132:9, 133:28, 145:19, 147:4, 148:2, 153:22
murdered [9] - 28:10, 46:3, 46:11, 66:23, 73:24, 115:29, 123:15, 153:19, 155:22
murders [15] - 20:17, 43:23, 47:11, 47:28, 48:22, 69:12, 79:25, 106:30, 112:6, 113:27, 133:10, 135:16, 135:21, 138:8, 146:10
Murphy [3] - 144:8, 144:9, 144:22
Murray [8] - 111:29, 124:14, 124:28, 135:5, 135:15, 143:16, 143:19, 143:25
must [12] - 3:29, 13:27, 14:4, 36:29, 39:10, 62:20, 66:2, 70:17, 71:7, 75:26, 137:14, 140:23
my.. [1] - 125:3
Nname [8] - 49:21, 113:19,
116:22, 116:24, 128:24, 128:27, 144:12, 144:15
named [13] - 8:20, 43:9, 43:18, 43:30, 55:14, 55:15, 55:22, 55:23, 56:4, 56:10, 62:8, 62:14, 77:1
namely [2] - 35:15, 40:3names [4] - 33:26, 71:19,
87:5, 134:6narrow [1] - 45:26naturally [1] - 47:12nature [7] - 18:8, 20:26,
59:28, 59:30, 113:17, 122:26, 123:2
nearer [1] - 31:4necessarily [6] - 48:23,
52:7, 52:14, 56:6, 99:13, 112:16
necessary [13] - 95:24, 100:26, 104:15, 104:19, 105:6, 105:7, 105:8, 110:13, 113:10, 113:13, 120:12, 120:18
necessity [1] - 150:3Ned [1] - 7:24need [5] - 84:8, 110:13,
124:17, 136:6, 138:26needed [5] - 46:19, 111:1,
136:7, 138:18, 150:26negative [2] - 60:24,
143:11negotiate [1] - 146:1negotiation [1] - 145:28net [1] - 27:6never [40] - 4:12, 13:1,
21:20, 22:2, 36:17, 52:27, 55:9, 59:19, 59:21, 61:28, 63:23, 66:8, 66:25, 67:4, 67:29, 67:30, 72:24, 73:27, 73:30, 76:24, 76:29, 82:8, 82:9, 103:1, 108:22, 108:24, 111:17, 111:23, 119:13, 125:25, 127:5, 129:8, 129:26, 137:25, 137:27, 141:13, 143:28, 149:24
new [9] - 16:30, 17:1, 17:21, 89:11, 92:28, 116:8, 116:9, 134:23
Newry [35] - 87:22, 87:26, 88:12, 88:13, 88:21, 92:29, 92:30, 97:10, 97:15, 106:28, 106:29, 107:19, 107:28, 109:16, 109:18, 109:21, 109:22, 117:9, 118:5, 118:13, 119:2, 120:18, 120:30, 123:6, 123:10, 123:11, 123:13, 124:8, 124:9, 134:16, 137:2, 139:21, 139:29, 141:30
next [11] - 15:26, 18:27, 19:20, 23:2, 27:1, 30:5,
30:23, 31:21, 82:26, 84:3, 86:4
night [8] - 28:13, 29:12, 29:17, 66:24, 70:20, 72:1, 96:12, 137:13
nine [3] - 95:4, 134:28, 154:25
nobody [5] - 46:28, 48:27, 77:9, 88:3, 123:20
noises [1] - 112:19NOLAN [2] - 1:4, 2:1Nolan [22] - 1:18, 2:4,
42:8, 42:15, 49:21, 57:4, 57:9, 60:17, 62:3, 62:12, 63:12, 66:1, 66:11, 67:9, 69:10, 73:23, 73:29, 74:9, 76:4, 105:22
none [14] - 3:12, 54:14, 73:17, 117:21, 117:23, 119:7, 122:29, 123:1, 129:10, 129:13, 130:16, 150:6
nonetheless [1] - 12:16norm [1] - 118:3normal [6] - 65:9, 99:9,
130:30, 131:7, 131:18, 156:1
normally [4] - 28:30, 125:11, 130:5, 131:8
North [5] - 10:29, 26:8, 44:11, 45:18, 73:13
north [5] - 89:14, 111:25, 122:21, 149:28, 152:5
northern [3] - 90:16, 150:19, 151:11
Northern [6] - 88:2, 110:14, 145:19, 145:21, 149:23, 155:17
note [8] - 8:30, 64:14, 65:23, 101:12, 102:20, 119:16, 132:19
noted [2] - 7:20, 9:27notes [1] - 94:5nothing [15] - 23:25,
39:12, 41:7, 41:15, 50:26, 51:3, 57:14, 65:27, 70:18, 72:13, 89:1, 89:3, 129:19, 141:17, 150:24
notice [8] - 8:6, 12:26, 16:28, 17:7, 22:19, 29:22, 62:18, 75:17
noticeable [5] - 112:2, 127:26, 151:4, 151:7, 152:8
noticed [3] - 98:15, 144:15, 151:23
notification [2] - 131:3, 131:23
notified [4] - 19:11, 27:13, 110:13, 131:7
notify [1] - 45:5notifying [1] - 110:4November [2] - 2:8, 31:22nowhere [1] - 105:9number [39] - 5:16, 5:18,
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6:23, 10:10, 19:14, 19:17, 20:22, 32:22, 45:20, 45:27, 62:5, 88:7, 88:9, 88:28, 98:24, 99:30, 110:8, 115:24, 116:6, 116:8, 116:9, 116:23, 116:27, 118:8, 127:11, 132:29, 134:19, 134:20, 134:24, 135:20, 139:7, 140:23, 143:20, 147:14, 147:16, 148:22, 152:10, 152:13
numbers [6] - 5:17, 45:5, 87:6, 113:28, 115:25, 127:10
numerous [5] - 47:22, 70:27, 92:12, 119:21, 146:4
OO' [1] - 42:12O'Callaghan [1] - 127:19O'CALLAGHAN [16] -
1:7, 1:13, 40:20, 41:6, 41:20, 57:6, 57:9, 69:3, 81:7, 81:24, 127:22, 127:28, 128:2, 139:14, 139:17, 148:10
o'clock [11] - 1:12, 78:2, 78:5, 78:6, 78:7, 82:24, 97:20, 97:22, 132:11, 156:5
O'Dea [28] - 7:24, 8:4, 15:27, 47:29, 62:4, 64:2, 69:12, 69:14, 69:22, 69:27, 70:14, 70:17, 70:21, 71:4, 71:15, 72:5, 72:10, 72:21, 73:8, 73:9, 73:30, 74:10, 74:20, 75:19, 75:21, 75:28, 76:18, 76:25
O'Dea's [4] - 69:25, 71:22, 75:1, 76:21
O'SULLIVAN [1] - 148:16oath [1] - 86:6objection [1] - 1:12obliged [1] - 152:17observed [1] - 94:10obtained [1] - 120:18obtaining [1] - 4:22obvious [5] - 19:7, 34:7,
56:7, 76:11, 78:22obviously [37] - 33:5,
36:26, 46:1, 51:17, 53:20, 53:21, 53:27, 54:14, 54:25, 88:28, 90:24, 91:17, 92:9, 103:6, 105:5, 108:1, 110:30, 112:10, 113:30, 116:5, 117:27, 117:29, 120:24, 123:17, 131:18, 131:21, 132:14, 132:15, 135:4, 138:9, 139:6, 139:8, 142:18, 144:25, 147:13, 155:30, 156:1
occasion [13] - 2:4, 3:18, 21:22, 24:7, 26:17,
47:24, 95:21, 106:11, 118:29, 122:5, 122:11, 127:4, 154:13
occasionally [4] - 96:13, 97:28, 147:12, 147:13
occasions [13] - 4:29, 26:25, 47:22, 47:25, 66:19, 70:28, 92:18, 121:10, 121:13, 154:6, 154:9, 154:11, 155:20
occupied [1] - 29:7occur [2] - 23:11, 131:23occurred [8] - 8:29, 28:6,
28:26, 34:12, 56:16, 62:17, 93:26, 94:6
occurrences [1] - 12:30October [5] - 8:19, 8:30,
30:28, 31:14, 31:15offence [1] - 63:20offences [2] - 81:28,
81:29offer [2] - 96:15, 116:14offered [1] - 138:9offering [2] - 68:30, 69:1Office [5] - 21:6, 101:18,
145:19, 145:21, 149:24office [16] - 13:5, 46:2,
46:10, 52:24, 52:28, 91:8, 91:23, 91:25, 97:23, 97:27, 107:22, 110:4, 110:15, 111:12, 130:3, 140:5
officer [40] - 8:4, 14:22, 15:1, 16:8, 16:10, 17:10, 17:16, 17:18, 24:13, 25:5, 36:7, 36:8, 36:9, 69:20, 69:23, 78:15, 78:16, 78:23, 79:22, 82:26, 86:5, 88:21, 101:17, 113:1, 117:24, 124:10, 130:11, 131:28, 132:30, 137:30, 138:28, 138:29, 141:29, 142:22, 147:22, 153:8, 153:15, 153:16, 153:18
Officer [14] - 55:7, 55:11, 97:26, 98:28, 99:7, 102:1, 102:3, 102:15, 108:26, 109:1, 109:5, 127:9, 144:27
Officers [3] - 97:6, 97:7, 99:11
officers [59] - 21:10, 24:14, 32:18, 33:8, 33:15, 38:6, 41:21, 43:28, 44:25, 44:28, 45:4, 45:9, 46:3, 46:11, 46:20, 61:4, 61:14, 71:8, 73:23, 78:4, 87:7, 89:27, 92:12, 93:30, 94:10, 96:12, 97:8, 108:30, 109:9, 111:11, 111:20, 113:19, 113:21, 114:17, 115:16, 118:29, 123:15, 126:2, 126:3, 129:25, 129:30, 130:2, 130:9, 130:14, 131:17, 133:11, 140:1, 142:9,
142:10, 142:11, 142:15, 142:19, 146:13, 149:3, 149:6, 150:27, 152:26, 153:23
offices [2] - 52:21, 71:27official [19] - 6:30, 7:13,
9:22, 10:3, 25:18, 26:7, 26:9, 27:25, 29:13, 34:14, 34:23, 35:28, 65:2, 66:15, 69:28, 95:19, 100:2
officials [4] - 76:29, 88:30, 94:16, 94:19
often [12] - 6:14, 9:18, 10:25, 21:3, 38:10, 38:12, 55:10, 58:1, 106:10, 114:22, 115:6, 151:27
Oireachtas [1] - 44:9old [1] - 134:28omitted [2] - 60:14,
154:21ON [1] - 1:1once [8] - 16:19, 21:20,
22:2, 31:29, 32:3, 65:30, 76:25, 126:24
one [68] - 2:26, 3:9, 3:13, 3:14, 6:25, 9:6, 10:29, 11:1, 17:12, 18:13, 20:28, 21:21, 24:26, 26:17, 26:25, 27:18, 32:27, 34:17, 34:20, 35:26, 37:29, 38:2, 45:29, 46:17, 46:24, 48:19, 49:6, 50:6, 52:1, 56:28, 59:3, 59:18, 62:3, 64:22, 65:9, 66:21, 70:4, 70:12, 71:8, 72:3, 76:11, 77:7, 80:29, 82:23, 86:15, 89:13, 90:9, 92:29, 94:9, 107:28, 108:1, 113:20, 114:2, 114:20, 115:17, 118:13, 119:29, 120:17, 122:19, 132:7, 140:2, 143:21, 152:24, 153:29, 154:1, 154:2, 154:18
one-quarter [1] - 20:28ones [2] - 59:11, 59:13onwards [2] - 112:7,
129:1open [3] - 23:17, 31:8,
141:25operate [2] - 121:15,
151:25operated [3] - 91:14,
123:4, 149:3operating [3] - 3:14,
93:30, 139:29operation [30] - 48:15,
98:19, 99:22, 99:28, 100:1, 100:6, 100:8, 100:10, 100:13, 100:21, 104:4, 104:6, 104:10, 105:4, 108:21, 109:26, 112:9, 112:29, 113:11, 113:17, 122:22, 122:24,
136:5, 136:6, 139:20, 145:1, 145:9, 146:16, 151:29
operational [15] - 90:2, 91:5, 92:3, 92:9, 95:20, 97:6, 99:10, 108:7, 110:20, 112:14, 119:8, 123:16, 135:28, 135:30, 144:1
operationally [4] - 105:17, 133:20, 142:29, 144:5
Operations [4] - 23:4, 23:7, 25:9, 64:15
operations [8] - 89:15, 90:14, 99:13, 120:19, 122:12, 122:14, 123:2, 136:3
opinion [5] - 68:19, 69:1, 113:7, 138:7
opinions [1] - 113:6opportunities [2] -
137:12, 137:13opportunity [4] - 41:17,
153:3, 153:27, 153:28oppose [1] - 34:27opposed [3] - 63:25,
63:28, 64:1opposite [1] - 45:5Ops [2] - 102:4, 102:21opted [3] - 28:1, 28:8,
28:21order [15] - 6:26, 11:12,
22:25, 53:13, 58:3, 100:30, 101:2, 103:14, 104:22, 104:23, 114:10, 129:8, 131:12, 141:15, 145:27
ordered [1] - 4:13orders [3] - 112:30,
113:1, 113:8ordinary [2] - 18:9, 28:1organisation [3] - 11:10,
122:12, 153:12organisations [5] - 22:8,
112:27, 134:10, 150:8organise [3] - 104:10,
122:11, 136:5organised [10] - 11:3,
11:5, 11:6, 46:6, 47:18, 97:25, 97:30, 99:22, 122:14, 122:16
organising [3] - 112:11, 145:26, 152:5
original [4] - 24:10, 111:16, 111:17, 152:9
originally [2] - 84:17, 127:3
origins [2] - 144:7, 144:9otherwise [5] - 30:2,
68:9, 75:27, 135:11, 141:21
ought [1] - 131:5ourselves [1] - 100:11outdoor [1] - 35:17outline [3] - 62:5, 69:27,
103:28outlined [2] - 146:17,
154:4outlining [1] - 87:9outlook [1] - 111:24outrageous [1] - 66:21outset [2] - 76:17, 108:21outside [12] - 3:19, 26:9,
27:22, 34:1, 54:30, 78:28, 79:15, 79:21, 99:29, 120:23, 123:4, 134:16
outstanding [1] - 59:18overall [2] - 4:6, 8:1overhead [2] - 93:25,
101:7overheard [2] - 10:14,
112:20overrun [1] - 82:23oversight [1] - 90:5overtaken [1] - 84:15Owen [14] - 2:20, 7:2,
9:28, 13:17, 23:15, 30:25, 80:17, 118:20, 119:4, 120:21, 124:16, 137:7, 139:19, 143:10
own [36] - 11:17, 13:12, 15:19, 20:4, 21:5, 23:29, 24:2, 24:3, 40:18, 41:27, 45:1, 65:11, 71:7, 71:17, 96:29, 99:2, 101:12, 106:19, 110:7, 110:17, 114:20, 115:12, 120:25, 125:12, 129:21, 134:5, 136:5, 138:1, 139:9, 145:22, 146:8, 147:12, 149:20, 152:4, 152:14
owned [3] - 40:4, 40:21, 41:7
owner [3] - 32:23, 33:22, 134:19
owning [4] - 40:12, 40:24, 41:8, 42:11
owns [2] - 20:4, 24:2
Pp.m [4] - 28:12, 29:7,
29:9, 29:11pacifying [1] - 111:24packing [2] - 111:16,
111:17Paddy [3] - 25:22, 25:25,
64:24Page [1] - 1:3page [11] - 18:2, 55:3,
101:9, 101:12, 101:14, 101:15, 102:13, 102:19, 106:16, 120:3, 123:28
paged [1] - 101:10paid [1] - 43:8panel [3] - 64:6, 67:5,
67:6panoply [1] - 36:6papers [4] - 70:19, 85:3,
97:28, 120:19paperwork [1] - 124:3parade [1] - 25:20paragraph [3] - 14:30,
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27:4, 27:8paramilitaries [1] - 146:2paramilitary [1] - 135:18parcel [1] - 49:6pardon [2] - 2:11, 52:23Park [2] - 122:18, 125:20parliament [1] - 153:13parliamentary [1] - 43:15part [18] - 5:14, 27:5,
48:12, 49:5, 71:10, 75:1, 81:4, 81:12, 98:9, 98:14, 99:11, 104:13, 109:25, 125:4, 129:16, 134:2, 141:19, 151:10
participation [1] - 130:27particular [31] - 2:20, 3:4,
4:5, 4:7, 17:29, 20:20, 23:6, 23:8, 25:4, 29:2, 29:8, 31:2, 36:2, 39:6, 44:26, 46:5, 47:24, 62:16, 79:25, 80:5, 88:9, 100:13, 104:8, 119:29, 122:27, 122:28, 124:24, 132:20, 138:27, 143:7, 149:20
particularly [12] - 14:14, 20:25, 22:15, 42:10, 63:14, 88:6, 119:13, 134:7, 145:20, 150:11, 153:14, 154:20
parties [3] - 101:8, 120:9, 154:2
pass [1] - 55:17passage [1] - 24:17passed [5] - 32:1, 43:27,
50:12, 55:12, 70:19passing [1] - 66:9past [14] - 6:14, 12:2,
52:5, 53:16, 82:30, 83:2, 97:19, 107:30, 119:19, 128:2, 132:11, 132:21, 146:4, 154:25
Pat [3] - 9:10, 44:16, 44:20
pathetic [1] - 64:29Patrick [3] - 17:10, 23:22,
35:20Patrick's [2] - 105:25,
106:5patrol [3] - 7:5, 35:28,
80:29patrols [2] - 131:14pause [4] - 10:12, 12:8,
24:22, 99:19pay [6] - 36:24, 36:26,
36:27, 39:2, 40:8, 54:12peaceful [1] - 111:24penalties [3] - 38:2, 38:3,
54:8penalty [4] - 37:30, 50:21,
50:23, 82:1pension [1] - 54:17people [32] - 15:12,
27:16, 33:25, 38:1, 60:6, 61:19, 74:14, 91:18, 92:17, 97:22, 103:6, 109:12, 110:7, 110:13, 110:30, 112:10,
114:1, 114:2, 114:26, 115:16, 119:3, 119:22, 119:26, 123:3, 126:18, 132:26, 148:2, 150:22, 152:10, 152:13, 152:30, 155:22
perceived [2] - 62:13, 88:1
perfectly [3] - 40:25, 63:26, 64:5
perform [1] - 52:29performing [1] - 74:12perhaps [23] - 2:22,
44:20, 45:15, 47:17, 54:16, 55:23, 56:9, 61:1, 66:9, 82:29, 87:9, 97:29, 106:17, 107:8, 120:7, 123:27, 130:7, 133:21, 134:30, 136:1, 138:10, 144:30, 152:6
period [27] - 20:16, 20:29, 21:14, 21:21, 22:2, 25:6, 43:23, 57:20, 66:20, 88:10, 88:11, 88:15, 88:19, 89:20, 95:4, 111:4, 114:10, 117:7, 117:19, 117:29, 122:11, 123:5, 123:14, 130:23, 133:14, 147:19, 155:21
periods [4] - 88:7, 88:9, 93:11, 117:6
permanent [5] - 23:14, 24:27, 26:13, 27:10, 65:23
permanently [1] - 113:2permission [6] - 54:23,
65:4, 65:7, 69:9, 75:27, 113:16
permitted [1] - 52:8person [27] - 27:22,
30:20, 38:9, 39:11, 47:13, 54:21, 55:20, 55:21, 55:25, 55:28, 56:4, 58:4, 67:2, 67:25, 77:1, 77:22, 78:26, 96:6, 103:9, 108:19, 120:22, 127:18, 144:28, 150:29, 151:21, 153:20
personal [9] - 19:22, 19:27, 29:13, 35:16, 94:4, 105:19, 107:21, 115:26, 149:3
personally [3] - 55:9, 68:14, 125:17
personnel [5] - 2:15, 2:24, 50:4, 78:2, 131:11
Personnel [1] - 7:27persons [1] - 77:28perspectives [1] - 98:11pertinent [1] - 93:8philosophy [1] - 105:11Phoenix [2] - 122:17,
125:20phone [5] - 110:14,
113:3, 115:24, 116:4, 116:5
photographs [1] - 104:4
phrase [4] - 34:5, 78:27, 92:15, 100:17
physical [1] - 4:12physically [1] - 105:2pick [1] - 147:11picked [3] - 93:28, 112:5,
151:22picture [1] - 70:7pieces [1] - 145:25PIRA [4] - 43:27, 56:8,
56:26, 133:9place [23] - 4:12, 4:14,
19:7, 20:2, 25:5, 53:24, 58:5, 58:20, 58:25, 76:5, 82:28, 93:18, 97:18, 99:21, 103:29, 105:23, 105:24, 105:27, 106:3, 114:9, 123:21, 129:29, 146:18
placed [4] - 18:6, 55:19, 80:25, 148:6
plain [5] - 88:28, 89:3, 89:5, 99:24, 151:15
plan [5] - 38:18, 47:23, 47:26, 104:1, 151:28
planned [3] - 108:13, 112:9, 132:18
planning [5] - 99:10, 104:2, 104:5, 112:15, 145:25
plans [2] - 98:5plaque [1] - 26:4plates [2] - 113:24,
147:14plenty [1] - 112:26pocket [1] - 115:28point [44] - 8:3, 10:15,
12:19, 14:11, 24:23, 31:22, 31:30, 32:5, 36:19, 37:24, 37:29, 38:23, 42:16, 42:17, 43:29, 46:21, 54:1, 54:19, 59:10, 74:20, 74:26, 78:1, 79:13, 79:29, 96:9, 99:19, 100:13, 101:5, 103:18, 115:13, 116:12, 116:16, 119:5, 120:28, 121:23, 124:24, 126:3, 132:5, 141:16, 150:28, 151:23, 152:9, 154:2
pointed [2] - 50:21, 80:6pointing [3] - 7:18, 7:19,
9:21points [8] - 22:14, 23:29,
42:9, 42:11, 45:28, 102:23, 133:4, 133:9
police [40] - 5:30, 28:1, 88:13, 88:21, 89:27, 89:30, 91:16, 91:22, 91:26, 99:28, 103:25, 118:4, 119:23, 122:15, 122:20, 122:28, 123:15, 125:28, 125:29, 125:30, 126:1, 126:2, 126:3, 132:28, 132:30, 134:16, 134:17, 137:24, 137:30, 138:28, 138:29, 142:9,
144:1, 144:4, 147:10, 147:21, 149:28, 151:3, 152:11
Police [1] - 115:2policeman [1] - 81:5policemen [1] - 137:8policing [2] - 94:8, 149:7Policy [1] - 101:22political [1] - 103:25politician [1] - 99:27politicians [1] - 144:1pool [2] - 115:1, 115:2poor [1] - 151:25populations [1] - 140:6portion [2] - 124:2,
130:29position [18] - 1:7, 1:9,
15:24, 25:6, 29:23, 31:29, 34:21, 40:29, 41:29, 60:7, 75:13, 82:11, 82:12, 92:24, 126:11, 138:21, 141:20, 142:20
positive [7] - 10:7, 10:15, 10:16, 10:19, 18:12, 18:24, 63:10
possession [1] - 35:16possibilities [1] - 70:13possibility [13] - 8:26,
46:18, 48:25, 56:1, 70:1, 70:10, 70:12, 72:22, 74:3, 74:21, 76:8, 137:4, 138:24
possible [9] - 6:9, 45:23, 84:16, 96:12, 105:28, 109:23, 109:24, 109:27, 131:21
possibly [8] - 1:6, 26:4, 27:21, 55:28, 56:13, 105:24, 107:4, 114:3
post [6] - 31:4, 89:6, 90:22, 97:5, 109:28, 150:10
postage [1] - 150:9posted [1] - 87:12posting [1] - 53:10posts [1] - 137:27potentially [3] - 78:29,
79:26, 122:4pound [2] - 39:13, 39:15power [1] - 50:28practical [5] - 92:13,
119:14, 122:22, 132:17, 150:13
practically [2] - 3:12, 119:21
practice [17] - 38:19, 39:17, 95:18, 114:18, 115:6, 123:1, 129:21, 129:26, 129:28, 130:2, 130:5, 130:14, 130:17, 131:23, 149:13, 150:17
practices [2] - 114:19, 147:20
precedent [1] - 144:3precincts [1] - 9:18precious [1] - 126:28precise [2] - 100:24,
135:24precisely [1] - 116:29predated [1] - 80:6predecessor [1] - 44:16predecessors [2] - 32:27,
118:13predetermined [1] -
70:26predicament [1] - 64:6predict [1] - 131:21prefer [3] - 16:25, 35:2,
81:11preferable [1] - 17:30preference [1] - 127:19preferred [3] - 17:6,
27:27, 152:13prejudicial [1] - 17:4premises [5] - 42:11,
72:23, 100:22, 104:8Prenty [7] - 5:21, 25:15,
56:22, 56:30, 64:16, 64:19
preparation [1] - 124:7prepare [1] - 84:15prepared [3] - 10:6,
13:19, 138:30presence [6] - 86:6, 88:7,
93:15, 97:17, 104:22, 151:11
present [15] - 23:25, 32:22, 34:24, 40:28, 72:21, 93:27, 93:28, 98:29, 98:30, 99:1, 99:2, 99:4, 99:8, 99:14, 155:19
presenting [2] - 17:16, 17:18
president [1] - 36:7presumably [10] - 13:13,
22:29, 43:6, 68:7, 92:5, 92:22, 100:3, 101:3, 116:23, 135:7
presume [3] - 98:18, 122:3, 133:29
presumed [1] - 133:29presuming [1] - 98:18pretty [4] - 11:5, 24:23,
35:4, 35:7prevent [2] - 44:22,
145:27previous [13] - 34:1,
47:23, 48:22, 65:28, 75:22, 90:17, 108:12, 121:10, 121:13, 145:24, 154:6, 154:9, 154:11
previously [5] - 32:16, 57:20, 70:3, 136:28, 142:6
priest [1] - 146:1primacy [1] - 89:18primarily [1] - 153:9primary [1] - 134:9Prime [1] - 89:10principally [1] - 21:11principles [1] - 66:5priority [1] - 48:13prisoners [1] - 22:3private [5] - 10:2, 34:23,
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65:11, 115:4, 132:3privilege [4] - 43:15,
55:15, 71:10, 85:4privy [2] - 74:17, 109:23problem [8] - 26:24,
28:30, 35:9, 51:16, 52:27, 133:2, 135:22, 138:5
problematic [1] - 108:13problems [1] - 119:14procedural [1] - 110:21procedure [10] - 38:8,
58:5, 58:22, 58:24, 58:26, 58:27, 59:15, 79:19, 130:30
procedures [7] - 7:18, 57:29, 58:11, 68:17, 101:28, 114:16
proceed [2] - 42:18, 103:14
proceeded [1] - 100:4proceeding [2] - 54:3,
132:9proceedings [10] - 16:17,
16:19, 17:5, 35:23, 36:4, 36:5, 53:14, 54:7, 54:22, 54:28
process [10] - 54:9, 54:20, 58:16, 59:15, 60:18, 73:3, 73:9, 74:15, 100:28, 104:14
processed [2] - 50:14, 145:2
prodigious [1] - 94:4produced [3] - 19:4, 23:3,
67:16productivity [3] - 6:2,
12:23, 43:5professional [1] - 47:19professionals [1] - 149:8programme [12] - 8:21,
8:26, 9:7, 9:12, 44:17, 44:23, 62:9, 62:15, 62:16, 62:23, 62:26, 80:1
projector [2] - 93:25, 106:17
promote [1] - 87:21promoted [5] - 49:24,
49:28, 87:19, 87:23, 87:27
promotion [1] - 87:16promotions [1] - 2:17promptly [1] - 114:13promulgated [1] - 131:1proof [7] - 10:7, 10:15,
10:16, 10:19, 18:24, 37:17, 63:10
proper [6] - 17:25, 24:15, 51:4, 51:30, 52:1, 146:1
properties [3] - 40:21, 40:25, 41:8
property [9] - 24:3, 40:2, 40:9, 40:12, 41:7, 41:10, 41:12, 41:14, 41:28
prophetic [1] - 146:9proposal [3] - 118:22,
145:12, 145:13propose [2] - 1:10, 19:28propriety [1] - 15:6prosecutor [1] - 67:8prospect [1] - 53:23prospective [1] - 117:22protect [1] - 88:3protected [2] - 18:19,
147:7protection [2] - 116:15,
147:14proved [1] - 12:2proven [5] - 35:29, 59:13,
60:14, 60:17, 80:29provide [3] - 71:15,
71:16, 115:3provided [12] - 13:21,
17:19, 43:10, 43:19, 71:22, 73:2, 94:28, 119:16, 140:9, 140:12, 142:13, 142:27
province [1] - 94:2provision [2] - 42:26,
57:29Provisional [4] - 11:17,
47:17, 116:28, 140:13provisions [3] - 15:1,
16:8, 44:24PSNI [2] - 69:11, 101:13pub [1] - 66:22public [8] - 33:19, 33:22,
85:21, 85:26, 86:2, 92:12, 120:10, 156:4
publican [2] - 33:21, 33:23
publicised [1] - 47:15publicly [1] - 60:5purchase [1] - 41:14purchased [1] - 32:20pure [1] - 141:20purely [1] - 103:26purpose [9] - 68:16, 70:6,
70:14, 73:20, 76:9, 76:15, 78:20, 79:28, 152:25
purposes [1] - 92:13pursue [1] - 54:30pursuing [2] - 25:30,
39:12put [39] - 3:2, 6:2, 6:22,
9:24, 12:22, 18:27, 33:25, 35:11, 40:8, 42:19, 46:17, 48:26, 63:16, 64:9, 65:23, 68:14, 74:6, 78:1, 80:13, 82:6, 82:8, 82:28, 85:3, 93:24, 95:30, 96:14, 98:24, 98:25, 101:6, 106:17, 117:30, 120:2, 125:2, 129:29, 131:25, 132:18, 140:23, 147:16, 153:28
putting [3] - 8:6, 19:28, 81:26
Qqualifications [1] - 68:18
quantities [1] - 11:1quarter [3] - 20:28,
107:28Quay [1] - 11:23queries [2] - 23:18, 23:20question-mark [1] - 18:6questioning [3] - 40:27,
41:9, 42:21questions [13] - 41:6,
69:5, 77:3, 77:10, 127:17, 128:20, 148:12, 148:14, 148:16, 148:20, 148:22, 152:17, 152:20
quicker [1] - 152:6quickly [3] - 38:10, 79:8,
139:1quite [32] - 1:9, 10:13,
11:2, 21:27, 25:1, 26:29, 46:8, 46:22, 53:25, 68:25, 69:28, 72:28, 75:13, 80:15, 90:10, 95:25, 96:25, 99:4, 101:9, 109:23, 109:24, 109:27, 112:2, 115:14, 119:24, 126:9, 134:2, 134:20, 138:17, 140:1, 140:4
quoting [1] - 65:28
Rradio [10] - 28:24, 28:25,
28:29, 28:30, 29:1, 29:13, 35:16, 112:3, 132:4, 135:3
raise [5] - 15:9, 16:14, 111:28, 119:5, 150:29
raised [9] - 23:18, 23:20, 23:29, 48:7, 77:29, 101:19, 102:26, 103:18, 103:19
raises [1] - 15:6raison [1] - 92:24rang [3] - 107:17, 107:25,
124:14rank [8] - 15:18, 32:15,
38:5, 54:11, 89:17, 91:3, 91:30, 125:11
ranks [2] - 71:8, 101:4rapid [1] - 120:30rapport [2] - 150:14,
150:15rare [1] - 92:18rather [6] - 6:11, 25:11,
31:17, 45:25, 64:29, 78:21
Rathmullen [2] - 32:24, 40:5
rattled [1] - 110:4RE [4] - 1:9, 1:15, 77:12,
152:22re [7] - 97:11, 106:24,
106:26, 107:22, 108:6, 124:7, 152:24
re-examination [1] - 152:24
RE-EXAMINED [4] - 1:9, 1:15, 77:12, 152:22
re-scheduled [1] - 108:6re-scheduling [1] -
107:22reach [1] - 107:27reached [5] - 13:25, 56:2,
74:10, 76:17, 127:28reaction [2] - 99:20,
141:5read [18] - 22:2, 23:10,
44:13, 70:18, 95:24, 95:25, 97:1, 106:18, 106:20, 106:21, 120:8, 120:10, 120:11, 120:12, 120:13, 124:1, 143:10, 153:4
reader [1] - 66:10reading [4] - 1:10, 23:11,
103:22, 133:7reads [1] - 96:4ready [2] - 1:18, 138:11real [2] - 139:20, 150:21realised [1] - 110:9really [15] - 3:6, 7:5,
13:12, 21:26, 28:8, 34:8, 42:13, 43:21, 44:1, 81:4, 81:21, 108:7, 115:11, 125:10, 126:29
reason [21] - 3:16, 6:14, 6:16, 7:28, 23:6, 26:26, 29:2, 48:29, 55:30, 76:20, 78:28, 82:12, 124:13, 124:22, 125:22, 125:24, 135:11, 142:5, 145:18, 148:8, 153:4
reasons [4] - 18:10, 18:17, 92:10, 99:25
reassess [1] - 144:28reassign [1] - 50:28reassured [1] - 137:3rebuke [2] - 21:22, 24:8recalled [1] - 36:25receive [2] - 113:26,
126:13received [12] - 6:4, 6:6,
8:9, 8:14, 10:4, 12:3, 15:28, 21:19, 131:3, 131:8, 131:9, 136:25
receiving [3] - 12:28, 20:7, 42:22
recent [2] - 21:29, 21:30recently [2] - 101:19,
124:20reckless [1] - 149:14recognise [1] - 61:22recognised [3] - 110:9,
120:27, 121:28recognition [1] - 41:22recollect [1] - 77:21recollection [20] - 9:13,
27:19, 29:18, 30:16, 43:8, 55:24, 56:24, 56:30, 57:2, 72:5, 72:24, 77:14, 90:11, 90:15, 96:25, 99:9, 102:30, 106:12, 108:28, 109:29
recommend [2] - 30:29,
32:13recommendation [3] -
21:10, 31:16, 53:9recommendations [2] -
17:26, 26:21recommended [3] - 18:4,
19:5, 27:27recommends [1] - 31:6record [14] - 24:6, 51:21,
57:23, 58:19, 59:23, 59:24, 60:4, 71:13, 97:2, 106:18, 123:9, 124:1, 143:2, 153:7
recorded [10] - 7:16, 9:19, 64:14, 95:23, 118:28, 118:30, 123:26, 135:13, 135:18, 138:1
records [6] - 6:30, 27:25, 72:16, 96:9, 107:14, 123:23
recreate [1] - 151:30recrossing [1] - 129:22red [1] - 133:2redacted [2] - 96:1, 101:7reduce [1] - 38:5reduction [2] - 54:11redundant [1] - 54:28refer [7] - 10:12, 12:22,
16:3, 32:6, 34:9, 77:1, 91:27
reference [13] - 7:4, 7:6, 9:4, 23:20, 62:16, 72:15, 95:16, 95:26, 95:27, 96:3, 108:16, 109:15, 143:10
references [1] - 120:13referred [6] - 8:28, 16:11,
27:30, 29:20, 45:20, 114:28
referring [5] - 33:10, 34:10, 34:15, 121:4, 126:25
refers [4] - 7:1, 8:19, 30:25, 101:15
reflection [1] - 124:27refresh [1] - 110:11refused [1] - 27:11regard [6] - 13:23, 31:5,
34:21, 65:4, 120:1regarded [7] - 12:4,
32:25, 32:26, 82:4, 118:24, 140:26, 141:5
regarding [6] - 13:21, 14:3, 29:23, 43:28, 75:15, 106:30
regards [2] - 13:7, 45:1regiment [1] - 94:1region [2] - 90:5, 94:11Regional [1] - 102:22register [1] - 86:6registered [1] - 134:19registration [5] - 116:9,
117:2, 132:22, 134:27, 135:1
regular [6] - 51:4, 92:6, 108:3, 117:15, 117:16, 118:1
regularly [1] - 53:25
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regulation [1] - 40:12Regulation [1] - 17:8Regulations [6] - 15:2,
16:9, 17:9, 29:21, 35:14, 50:22
regulations [13] - 16:29, 16:30, 17:1, 17:19, 17:20, 17:22, 22:19, 34:26, 40:15, 51:7, 51:11, 51:12, 54:21
rehearse [2] - 140:19, 151:24
reinitiate [1] - 142:7reinitiated [1] - 142:2reiterate [1] - 12:19reject [1] - 40:29rejected [1] - 53:10relate [3] - 12:15, 54:9,
67:17related [9] - 35:27, 56:25,
63:1, 94:12, 100:8, 112:16, 120:19, 149:30, 153:9
relating [2] - 6:24, 14:29relation [27] - 2:6, 2:20,
2:22, 3:20, 4:21, 34:11, 37:29, 44:17, 46:14, 51:2, 53:15, 56:4, 66:15, 95:8, 98:21, 103:1, 110:21, 119:5, 124:12, 126:23, 126:30, 129:21, 136:26, 137:15, 138:8, 154:4
relations [2] - 4:17, 142:14
relationship [8] - 4:30, 13:24, 21:17, 24:13, 89:28, 137:2, 144:3, 146:22
relatively [2] - 59:30, 96:20
released [1] - 107:1relevance [2] - 7:3, 88:9relevant [3] - 7:5, 27:26,
124:1reliable [2] - 135:7, 150:9reliance [1] - 148:7relied [1] - 115:12religious [1] - 149:11relive [1] - 155:21rely [1] - 135:7remain [4] - 34:28, 35:2,
123:6, 124:18remained [4] - 36:24,
87:13, 87:18, 87:23remaining [1] - 82:5remains [1] - 85:18remember [4] - 2:26, 9:7,
76:3, 94:6remit [3] - 11:17, 28:18,
69:27remotely [1] - 93:6removed [2] - 19:6,
115:30rendezvous [3] - 120:28,
121:26, 141:17renew [1] - 123:11repeat [4] - 46:8, 74:25,
110:18, 144:19repeated [1] - 137:25repeating [2] - 62:18,
73:19replace [1] - 87:18replaced [2] - 2:28, 16:29reply [1] - 63:3report [49] - 6:17, 6:21,
6:29, 6:30, 7:8, 7:10, 7:23, 8:3, 8:9, 8:13, 8:18, 8:29, 10:20, 15:4, 15:26, 16:5, 16:11, 19:19, 22:3, 23:8, 23:22, 24:10, 25:8, 25:19, 29:12, 31:22, 35:26, 36:20, 36:22, 40:2, 45:19, 50:25, 51:24, 51:26, 51:28, 52:10, 67:30, 75:23, 76:21, 80:3, 80:4, 101:24, 102:24, 103:12, 109:14, 124:7, 132:12, 132:16, 145:3
reported [14] - 22:24, 24:3, 28:13, 29:10, 36:17, 52:2, 52:30, 53:22, 60:5, 82:13, 90:18, 103:17, 135:3, 156:1
reporting [6] - 7:27, 50:9, 51:22, 52:6, 53:20, 138:5
reports [8] - 6:6, 6:23, 10:4, 12:28, 19:4, 44:13, 69:19, 119:8
representation [1] - 154:2
representatives [1] - 27:20
reprimand [1] - 38:5reprimands [1] - 54:11Republican [1] - 121:11reputation [3] - 4:21,
4:23, 14:24request [1] - 104:20requested [4] - 25:9,
97:28, 108:27, 109:16require [3] - 11:1, 68:19,
78:21required [10] - 9:17, 29:5,
35:19, 53:23, 65:2, 65:5, 78:26, 107:25, 123:16, 129:17
requirement [3] - 60:5, 130:13, 130:17
residents [1] - 151:20resources [1] - 100:25respect [14] - 58:14,
60:30, 61:12, 62:7, 63:23, 68:5, 73:23, 76:4, 81:12, 99:15, 106:28, 117:26, 131:17, 131:24
respond [7] - 28:27, 67:19, 67:26, 67:28, 67:29, 125:3, 145:15
response [7] - 15:28, 31:8, 31:9, 132:12,
132:17, 146:9, 149:16responsibility [3] - 89:21,
131:9, 135:28responsible [3] - 7:30,
89:30, 145:26restricted [1] - 115:17result [6] - 22:5, 26:14,
32:12, 36:2, 65:24, 73:22
resume [1] - 128:17RESUMED [2] - 1:1,
128:12retain [1] - 41:22retire [5] - 37:21, 54:15,
54:22, 54:26, 156:5retired [7] - 37:28, 38:20,
54:7, 82:26, 86:4, 125:13, 139:18
retirement [3] - 32:12, 39:19, 54:21
retiring [1] - 4:16retrospectively [2] -
96:13, 96:17return [2] - 29:1, 86:2returned [10] - 9:18, 29:3,
87:22, 106:30, 120:17, 120:20, 123:10, 123:13, 124:9, 141:30
reveals [2] - 65:20, 81:11revert [2] - 27:2, 96:29reverted [2] - 18:5, 18:9Review [10] - 27:12,
27:15, 29:24, 30:24, 30:27, 31:29, 32:9, 53:7, 53:9, 64:13
review [2] - 18:16, 43:11reviewed [1] - 108:11revisit [2] - 52:18, 77:30rewarding [1] - 42:26riding [1] - 14:26rife [1] - 62:27rightly [1] - 98:12ring [1] - 132:5rise [3] - 42:7, 82:29,
128:10rises [1] - 127:18risk [12] - 45:8, 45:9,
115:5, 119:27, 121:29, 129:24, 129:27, 147:18, 149:22, 152:4, 152:12
road [18] - 31:20, 47:5, 104:11, 114:14, 114:20, 114:21, 114:24, 114:25, 131:1, 131:11, 131:16, 131:22, 131:25, 131:27, 132:13, 132:22, 139:3, 152:11
Road [4] - 88:16, 122:17, 130:23, 130:28
roads [4] - 45:20, 45:29, 135:25, 139:3
roadways [1] - 135:26Roadwood [1] - 28:10roamed [1] - 47:20robbed [1] - 150:10robberies [1] - 20:17robbers [1] - 25:30ROBINSON [9] - 1:8,
1:14, 69:7, 69:9, 77:3, 148:22, 148:28, 148:30, 152:17
Robinson [2] - 69:10, 77:5
role [13] - 88:26, 88:27, 90:7, 92:23, 98:12, 104:24, 104:28, 104:30, 105:7, 105:16, 115:14, 129:16
room [2] - 86:2, 155:19Room [4] - 29:4, 131:8,
131:10, 131:18rough [1] - 130:7round [1] - 72:28route [7] - 47:6, 47:27,
122:19, 130:6, 130:8, 130:15, 131:20
routes [3] - 45:23, 114:18, 138:15
routine [3] - 106:23, 106:26, 154:28
Rowan [2] - 9:7, 80:10RTE [10] - 8:21, 9:6, 9:11,
44:16, 44:22, 62:8, 62:15, 62:23, 62:26, 80:1
RUC [31] - 44:25, 44:28, 45:9, 46:3, 55:16, 55:23, 61:4, 61:14, 82:26, 86:4, 87:6, 87:10, 87:11, 88:16, 89:16, 89:18, 90:13, 90:16, 108:30, 109:14, 113:1, 113:11, 113:21, 117:24, 119:25, 126:5, 139:21, 139:29, 141:29, 150:27
rule [1] - 155:30ruling [6] - 1:6, 1:11,
1:17, 42:6, 84:14, 84:15rumour [9] - 10:26, 63:11,
66:13, 100:21, 125:26, 126:4, 137:24, 137:25
rumours [11] - 37:2, 62:27, 126:6, 126:8, 126:10, 126:16, 126:17, 126:18, 126:19, 137:21
run [1] - 123:21running [1] - 50:6Rural [10] - 89:29, 89:30,
90:25, 97:12, 97:26, 98:16, 99:7, 100:2, 101:2, 102:22
SS.O [1] - 102:1safe [1] - 11:2safety [4] - 92:11, 92:19,
93:9, 147:7sake [1] - 116:19salary [1] - 36:3sale [1] - 33:19sales [1] - 10:28salient [1] - 126:3sanctioned [3] - 51:11,
118:30, 124:10
sandwich [1] - 110:3sat [2] - 98:3, 99:29satisfied [6] - 45:2, 49:4,
74:11, 76:22, 149:27, 153:23
Saturday [1] - 106:11saved [4] - 141:10,
141:11, 141:23, 141:24saving [1] - 141:29saw [1] - 72:24scale [4] - 10:24, 11:4,
11:6, 81:28scenario [1] - 138:24scene [7] - 66:25, 104:8,
109:26, 132:9, 132:14, 132:26, 132:27
sceptical [1] - 12:4schedule [1] - 84:16scheduled [2] - 20:1,
108:6scheduling [1] - 107:22schooling [1] - 24:2scramble [1] - 138:11screen [9] - 19:28, 32:8,
84:9, 95:11, 95:25, 96:1, 142:30, 144:24, 145:2
SDU [6] - 4:8, 18:30, 19:8, 23:14, 26:14, 27:10
search [3] - 56:13, 56:23, 56:25
searched [1] - 115:29searches [1] - 56:27seat [1] - 84:9second [16] - 6:9, 10:12,
12:8, 18:2, 24:22, 35:23, 41:26, 77:16, 82:7, 101:12, 101:14, 102:19, 103:19, 106:16, 120:17, 145:7
secondary [2] - 45:29, 131:24
secondly [1] - 35:18Secretary [18] - 93:15,
94:3, 94:26, 95:22, 98:2, 98:20, 99:24, 99:27, 100:30, 102:25, 103:4, 103:13, 103:20, 144:10, 144:21, 144:26, 145:11, 145:17
section [2] - 23:7, 142:30sections [1] - 139:24secure [1] - 151:29secured [3] - 111:12,
111:13, 111:19Security [16] - 7:26, 7:27,
8:2, 8:4, 15:10, 15:20, 15:23, 23:6, 27:3, 31:26, 50:26, 50:27, 51:3, 52:6, 69:23, 122:17
security [19] - 44:25, 45:2, 45:12, 88:1, 88:4, 92:11, 92:19, 93:9, 101:21, 101:22, 109:9, 117:22, 117:30, 122:24, 126:15, 145:25, 149:15, 149:30
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see [19] - 4:26, 16:26, 42:10, 42:18, 58:20, 60:7, 74:29, 78:19, 81:27, 95:19, 96:3, 97:21, 99:15, 99:17, 105:10, 118:11, 126:24, 126:27, 127:17
seed [1] - 19:5seek [3] - 113:15, 123:17,
143:23seeking [1] - 22:22seeks [1] - 40:27seem [3] - 38:25, 55:27,
96:19sell [2] - 33:22, 33:23selling [2] - 37:3, 63:8sending [1] - 50:27sends [1] - 102:22senior [36] - 21:10, 24:13,
32:18, 33:15, 34:19, 45:4, 69:20, 69:22, 78:14, 78:15, 78:16, 78:23, 79:22, 88:20, 88:30, 94:19, 97:8, 101:16, 102:4, 102:5, 102:14, 102:15, 110:30, 113:1, 113:11, 113:16, 119:1, 119:3, 123:18, 124:10, 126:2, 138:28, 138:29
Senior [3] - 102:4, 102:21, 138:3
seniority [1] - 127:23sense [9] - 3:1, 4:12,
16:20, 45:15, 50:6, 84:18, 89:2, 89:17, 123:12
sensitive [5] - 13:27, 114:29, 122:25, 122:26
sensitivity [1] - 123:2sent [4] - 7:23, 22:28,
52:16, 69:17sentence [2] - 22:2, 23:18separate [4] - 50:19, 51:6,
91:21, 91:22SEPTEMBER [2] - 1:1,
156:9September [1] - 11:21sequence [1] - 53:5Sergeant [105] - 3:12,
4:24, 5:11, 5:15, 7:2, 7:21, 8:20, 9:8, 9:28, 9:30, 10:5, 11:20, 11:24, 13:20, 14:1, 14:29, 15:19, 16:6, 17:3, 18:4, 18:28, 18:30, 20:13, 23:15, 24:1, 24:7, 24:10, 24:18, 25:7, 25:14, 25:17, 25:22, 25:24, 25:26, 25:27, 25:28, 25:29, 27:5, 27:9, 27:24, 27:30, 28:11, 28:12, 28:17, 29:8, 29:9, 30:25, 32:12, 32:15, 33:16, 33:28, 34:20, 35:17, 40:16, 40:18, 42:10, 42:25,
50:28, 51:14, 51:17, 52:2, 64:16, 64:24, 65:20, 66:24, 75:14, 87:16, 87:18, 118:12, 118:17, 118:20, 118:27, 119:4, 119:12, 119:17, 119:30, 121:4, 121:12, 121:17, 121:21, 123:7, 123:24, 124:8, 124:12, 124:21, 125:10, 125:27, 126:26, 136:16, 139:19, 139:29, 140:9, 140:16, 141:10, 141:22, 142:2, 142:20, 142:26, 143:2, 143:10, 154:8, 154:14
Sergeant's [1] - 40:8Sergeants [4] - 3:15,
5:18, 32:14, 38:7series [1] - 79:6serious [8] - 3:7, 28:6,
28:26, 35:20, 63:14, 65:4, 66:21, 123:16
serious.. [1] - 82:4serve [2] - 15:7, 33:17served [14] - 11:22,
11:25, 17:9, 21:15, 22:19, 32:16, 40:13, 67:14, 87:20, 88:11, 113:6, 122:8, 125:28, 125:29
service [22] - 18:14, 18:18, 24:9, 32:18, 32:24, 34:1, 38:8, 50:20, 51:18, 88:8, 93:11, 112:23, 112:29, 113:4, 113:10, 114:9, 114:13, 117:7, 117:8, 138:10, 138:21, 149:27
Service [1] - 115:2Services [1] - 87:24services [1] - 88:4serving [2] - 21:4, 91:7set [15] - 10:23, 21:21,
22:26, 35:23, 36:14, 38:15, 39:14, 39:16, 45:16, 47:26, 51:11, 58:24, 59:7, 137:7, 141:15
sets [1] - 20:2setup [1] - 132:15several [2] - 4:15, 112:29severe [1] - 115:5share [2] - 21:27, 118:3shared [6] - 10:9, 92:13,
100:5, 130:9, 137:16, 146:25
sharing [1] - 92:7shed [1] - 90:19shift [4] - 3:15, 38:10,
78:9, 78:12shocked [1] - 47:12shoot [1] - 112:30shootings [2] - 20:16,
70:8shoplifting [4] - 26:14,
30:6, 65:24, 66:8short [4] - 34:25, 96:20,
126:21, 128:9
shortly [5] - 9:14, 87:29, 116:18, 132:9
shot [7] - 25:30, 64:25, 64:26, 87:18, 141:7
show [4] - 24:6, 49:2, 60:14, 61:15
showing [1] - 9:18shown [2] - 47:6, 81:30shrewd [2] - 11:26, 24:11shrewdness [1] - 30:1shut [1] - 28:7sic) [1] - 42:12sick [21] - 36:18, 36:20,
36:22, 36:24, 36:29, 37:1, 37:4, 39:8, 52:30, 53:20, 53:22, 53:23, 63:7, 68:5, 68:6, 68:7, 68:13, 68:15, 68:22, 82:13
sickness [1] - 63:9side [12] - 5:12, 11:27,
12:10, 24:12, 32:1, 44:30, 46:17, 89:13, 90:16, 117:23, 151:28, 155:9
sides [2] - 45:2, 125:26sight [2] - 132:8, 132:27sign [2] - 110:6, 152:26signals [1] - 112:3signature [2] - 143:8,
153:29signed [5] - 118:29,
124:25, 143:6, 153:6, 153:24
Silverbridge [1] - 114:4similar [3] - 47:26, 75:10,
101:29simple [1] - 140:21simply [6] - 16:15, 37:27,
62:13, 76:7, 114:25, 134:20
single [1] - 22:3singled [2] - 42:14, 42:16Siochana [28] - 15:2,
16:9, 17:8, 29:20, 40:22, 41:8, 41:11, 41:24, 41:26, 41:27, 49:22, 55:22, 57:11, 57:15, 57:22, 57:26, 58:4, 58:6, 58:10, 60:2, 60:8, 62:12, 63:6, 63:16, 66:6, 105:8, 119:9, 122:15
site [2] - 32:23, 40:4situation [7] - 28:6,
100:7, 118:9, 119:24, 119:26, 122:5, 132:16
six [4] - 36:27, 87:11, 119:20, 155:20
sixth [1] - 116:13sky [1] - 14:26slightly [5] - 11:18, 93:7,
95:13, 107:5, 107:6Sligo/Leitrim [1] - 25:29slip [1] - 27:6slowly [2] - 118:17, 140:6small [2] - 5:16, 54:1smuggled [1] - 10:30
smugglers [1] - 145:3smuggling [35] - 7:1,
8:21, 10:5, 10:9, 10:13, 10:22, 10:26, 10:27, 10:28, 11:3, 11:11, 18:9, 18:25, 34:16, 44:17, 61:10, 61:11, 61:19, 61:22, 61:26, 61:30, 62:7, 62:9, 62:26, 62:30, 63:1, 63:3, 63:18, 75:7, 75:15, 75:26, 76:12, 76:19, 101:29, 112:13
so.. [5] - 30:18, 70:20, 79:6, 140:18, 151:15
social [3] - 26:25, 76:27, 95:21
socially [1] - 146:15sold [1] - 63:6sole [2] - 5:10, 142:17solely [1] - 116:26solicitor [2] - 86:7,
155:28Solicitors [1] - 86:12solved [1] - 119:14someone [5] - 56:10,
78:23, 79:10, 130:3sometimes [5] - 100:20,
100:21, 147:11, 149:26son [1] - 107:1soon [3] - 77:27, 84:19,
117:24sorry [19] - 5:4, 14:20,
19:25, 39:29, 40:7, 42:19, 46:10, 66:29, 85:26, 85:29, 93:21, 98:30, 100:15, 116:9, 130:10, 136:1, 147:28, 147:29
Sorry.. [1] - 110:22sort [14] - 3:2, 3:11, 4:17,
4:18, 8:6, 14:28, 19:4, 27:6, 28:7, 45:15, 50:11, 55:19, 89:1, 118:25
sought [4] - 61:28, 63:23, 63:25, 129:11
sounding [1] - 81:1source [39] - 8:25, 44:4,
56:7, 78:22, 78:26, 80:7, 92:21, 120:15, 120:16, 120:17, 120:21, 120:26, 121:2, 121:3, 121:7, 121:8, 121:10, 121:13, 121:14, 121:18, 121:25, 126:10, 126:25, 126:26, 126:27, 139:8, 140:29, 141:17, 142:6, 142:7, 142:12, 147:28, 147:29, 147:30, 148:1, 148:6, 154:5, 154:14
sources [5] - 8:26, 11:30, 24:20, 48:23, 137:24
south [26] - 11:19, 45:6, 45:13, 47:23, 93:5, 93:30, 104:18, 104:19, 111:20, 111:25, 114:17, 115:9, 117:16, 120:14,
122:21, 122:30, 127:1, 127:3, 135:18, 135:22, 145:30, 148:4, 149:7, 149:28, 150:16, 152:6
South [5] - 10:30, 11:16, 87:26, 88:14, 89:22
southern [1] - 151:10sow [1] - 19:4space [1] - 120:30spare [1] - 13:25sparse [1] - 103:22speaker [1] - 107:5speaking [4] - 28:2,
106:12, 119:27, 154:19Special [28] - 4:3, 13:26,
19:1, 19:2, 21:3, 88:11, 88:13, 88:15, 88:19, 88:26, 89:1, 89:3, 92:29, 102:8, 102:9, 111:29, 117:8, 118:15, 119:2, 119:3, 119:25, 122:8, 122:17, 123:6, 133:15, 136:23, 136:24, 139:23
special [2] - 55:19, 71:9specific [5] - 44:30,
56:28, 63:15, 131:1, 135:24
specifically [7] - 2:22, 48:27, 59:29, 70:23, 114:12, 117:26, 130:19
speculation [3] - 63:12, 100:20, 141:20
speculative [3] - 103:9, 103:23, 103:26
spell [1] - 107:8spells [1] - 24:26spent [6] - 49:28, 49:29,
50:2, 87:11, 87:15, 115:14
SPM [4] - 101:19, 101:20, 103:5, 103:19
spoken [2] - 80:11, 154:26
sporadic [1] - 137:21spotted [1] - 121:27Square [2] - 19:2, 23:14St [2] - 105:25, 106:5staff [3] - 71:28, 72:4,
97:10Staff [14] - 55:7, 55:11,
97:26, 98:28, 99:7, 99:10, 102:1, 102:3, 102:15, 108:26, 109:1, 109:5, 127:8, 127:9
stage [21] - 6:21, 13:25, 29:22, 32:17, 35:7, 54:4, 55:5, 57:1, 70:2, 76:28, 94:9, 94:29, 100:27, 101:8, 108:11, 110:27, 116:14, 119:6, 144:12, 145:5, 145:28
stages [1] - 4:20stand [1] - 134:15standard [2] - 19:16,
123:1stands [2] - 81:16, 102:5star [1] - 14:26
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start [3] - 40:20, 41:1, 41:9
started [1] - 36:20starting [1] - 69:30state [3] - 62:7, 63:10,
111:19State [19] - 6:1, 60:6,
93:15, 94:3, 94:26, 95:22, 98:20, 99:24, 99:27, 100:30, 102:26, 103:5, 103:13, 103:20, 144:10, 144:21, 144:26, 145:11, 145:17
State's [1] - 98:3Statement [1] - 132:19statement [17] - 55:3,
60:24, 72:7, 73:2, 73:4, 73:12, 77:19, 94:28, 111:9, 111:28, 119:16, 133:3, 133:7, 135:13, 136:16, 136:26, 137:14
statements [1] - 144:9stating [2] - 35:4, 140:26station [66] - 3:14, 3:18,
3:19, 6:12, 9:8, 9:18, 9:20, 14:7, 19:6, 19:18, 19:19, 24:23, 24:27, 25:2, 25:26, 25:29, 29:1, 31:4, 33:6, 33:8, 33:11, 33:12, 34:13, 35:19, 35:30, 40:13, 46:20, 46:24, 62:28, 69:29, 70:7, 70:30, 71:2, 71:8, 71:18, 71:20, 71:26, 72:16, 72:26, 72:28, 74:6, 74:14, 74:23, 74:29, 76:14, 77:18, 78:5, 78:19, 78:23, 79:12, 79:16, 79:26, 88:13, 91:23, 91:26, 109:18, 122:2, 131:10, 134:16, 134:17, 139:21, 139:30
Station [17] - 2:7, 3:3, 5:11, 23:15, 31:5, 47:29, 49:4, 55:8, 65:16, 73:24, 75:10, 80:17, 117:20, 117:26, 118:11, 126:15, 139:20
stationed [2] - 32:28, 51:18
stations [4] - 44:25, 122:21, 142:16, 146:22
statistics [1] - 20:18statue [1] - 26:4statutory [1] - 58:5stay [1] - 24:12stead [1] - 95:5step [1] - 74:29steps [8] - 4:1, 4:15,
30:15, 56:5, 56:11, 56:15, 89:19, 147:6
sterling [1] - 5:30stick [1] - 56:28still [9] - 39:1, 47:17,
107:7, 108:18, 113:24, 124:16, 133:29, 137:9, 142:27
stop [2] - 8:13, 37:24stopped [1] - 37:28stored [1] - 52:20Stormont [8] - 93:14,
94:16, 95:26, 95:27, 96:4, 96:10, 96:27, 99:21
story [1] - 152:15straight [1] - 126:7strange [6] - 94:25,
114:22, 147:9, 151:21, 152:14
strategically [1] - 108:14Street [3] - 32:21, 40:4,
53:13strength [3] - 20:27,
20:28, 44:2stress [3] - 10:16, 18:21,
155:18stressed [1] - 18:22stretched [1] - 89:22strictly [1] - 154:19strive [1] - 100:23strong [4] - 18:13, 18:23,
37:2, 61:24strongly [2] - 34:27, 35:4strove [1] - 100:24structure [3] - 90:8,
90:24, 91:4structured [1] - 118:1stuff [1] - 104:5Sub [1] - 25:28subdivisional [1] -
109:16subject [8] - 1:10, 22:6,
34:24, 57:26, 71:13, 87:30, 114:4, 148:23
subjected [3] - 57:11, 59:26, 60:8
submachine [1] - 141:25submit [1] - 69:19submitted [3] - 37:13,
67:30, 119:8subordinate [2] - 78:22,
101:4subordinates [2] - 21:18,
149:10subsequent [5] - 10:19,
15:4, 17:4, 111:30, 112:17
subsequently [11] - 2:16, 25:20, 29:11, 29:16, 30:9, 30:10, 44:14, 88:24, 122:7, 135:14, 140:30
subsistence [3] - 152:29, 153:5, 153:10
substance [1] - 126:10substantial [1] - 5:18substantiated [1] -
126:20substantive [1] - 43:19subversion [1] - 146:5subversive [5] - 10:3,
11:10, 12:1, 13:30, 22:7subversives [18] - 11:6,
11:8, 11:12, 20:22, 22:6, 46:7, 46:14,
55:29, 74:24, 74:30, 75:2, 75:4, 75:14, 75:27, 76:12, 82:18, 121:28, 151:16
succeeded [1] - 4:16successfully [1] - 39:1sufficient [3] - 32:14,
44:22, 113:20sufficiently [1] - 143:18suggest [9] - 41:13,
56:22, 65:19, 67:9, 68:11, 76:20, 82:28, 102:27, 112:8
suggested [7] - 31:3, 31:5, 68:5, 81:19, 104:16, 127:1, 143:17
suggesting [5] - 40:14, 68:12, 68:20, 68:27, 68:30
suggestion [5] - 31:10, 44:15, 61:7, 61:23, 62:14
suggestions [1] - 149:17suggests [3] - 80:18,
82:16, 130:22suitability [1] - 18:6suitable [2] - 34:21, 115:3summary [1] - 58:28Sunday [1] - 106:12super [2] - 94:17, 144:23Super [2] - 123:18,
145:17supercilious [1] - 125:11Superintendent [98] -
2:14, 2:27, 2:28, 5:19, 6:7, 6:18, 7:11, 7:12, 8:10, 8:18, 15:16, 15:17, 16:11, 17:10, 17:13, 22:29, 23:22, 23:24, 34:30, 35:20, 35:27, 36:10, 42:30, 44:21, 49:25, 49:29, 49:30, 51:8, 51:22, 51:25, 51:26, 52:3, 52:17, 52:25, 52:26, 55:6, 55:7, 56:4, 56:19, 62:21, 78:17, 80:5, 87:23, 87:27, 90:7, 90:8, 90:18, 90:27, 93:13, 94:21, 94:25, 96:2, 96:17, 96:23, 99:20, 104:18, 105:18, 105:22, 106:2, 106:24, 106:29, 107:15, 108:15, 108:19, 108:20, 108:25, 108:27, 109:4, 110:1, 110:2, 111:5, 111:29, 115:8, 115:10, 115:20, 115:21, 124:14, 124:28, 125:14, 125:18, 125:19, 125:21, 125:22, 129:5, 131:6, 131:19, 133:27, 134:12, 135:5, 135:15, 142:16, 154:23
Superintendent's [4] - 15:3, 95:29, 115:24, 116:21
Superintendents [11] -
17:13, 21:15, 21:16, 24:17, 90:9, 90:11, 115:26, 129:12, 134:6, 138:15, 142:16
superior [15] - 5:20, 23:23, 25:4, 25:14, 68:21, 68:28, 90:19, 90:28, 91:2, 91:4, 94:22, 130:3, 138:3, 152:25, 153:23
superiors [9] - 10:2, 11:27, 12:10, 21:21, 24:7, 24:12, 24:28, 28:3, 125:20
supervised [2] - 8:1, 153:13
supervising [6] - 35:17, 36:7, 118:28, 145:27, 153:15, 153:16
supervision [5] - 22:5, 34:30, 35:5, 35:6, 120:18
supervisors [1] - 28:14supper [8] - 93:17, 98:3,
98:20, 103:13, 108:22, 145:7, 145:14, 146:16
supplied [1] - 120:1supply [3] - 13:16,
101:14, 120:7support [5] - 21:11,
37:13, 53:30, 126:20, 146:20
supported [2] - 26:18, 118:16
supports [1] - 42:22suppose [7] - 1:17,
43:21, 44:1, 44:3, 108:14, 144:7, 150:26
supposed [2] - 63:7, 127:3
surely [7] - 75:24, 79:7, 118:17, 140:7, 141:17, 146:27, 151:10
surgeon [1] - 36:25surprise [3] - 44:19, 93:2,
93:4surprised [4] - 43:30,
44:1, 55:13, 69:22surrounding [1] - 73:21Surveillance [1] - 133:18surveillance [7] - 13:11,
13:14, 47:22, 55:19, 133:22, 134:13
surveilled [1] - 135:9suspect [11] - 56:26,
78:20, 78:24, 78:25, 78:30, 79:1, 79:3, 114:15, 139:3, 153:1
suspected [13] - 6:8, 7:1, 8:5, 10:1, 26:14, 62:29, 65:24, 75:7, 76:11, 76:19, 79:3, 94:11, 103:7
suspects [1] - 61:19suspended [1] - 54:3suspensions [1] - 54:11suspicion [10] - 11:28,
18:13, 61:24, 75:11,
75:15, 118:24, 140:4, 140:9, 141:14, 146:28
suspicions [1] - 75:25suspicious [1] - 116:4sustain [1] - 18:11switched [1] - 28:29SWORN [2] - 2:1, 87:1sworn [2] - 27:28, 85:30symbols [1] - 146:4sympathies [1] - 76:14system [2] - 58:22,
103:23systems [1] - 133:14Síochána [20] - 90:12,
92:23, 98:13, 100:11, 104:3, 104:11, 104:13, 104:20, 105:2, 105:16, 107:18, 109:1, 117:12, 118:7, 126:6, 128:25, 128:28, 130:6, 141:28, 146:21
Ttable [3] - 93:29, 94:3,
145:16tactically [1] - 108:14tailed [2] - 12:23, 43:6talks [1] - 101:19target [5] - 100:26,
127:12, 139:4, 144:28, 150:30
targeting [1] - 113:19targets [6] - 109:12,
113:3, 113:12, 113:17, 151:8, 152:12
task [4] - 48:2, 49:6, 95:20
tasks [1] - 111:7tea [1] - 97:29team [2] - 98:14, 114:14technical [3] - 14:29,
54:1, 112:19Technical [2] - 21:1,
49:25Telecom [1] - 134:30telephone [9] - 69:26,
94:17, 105:3, 116:27, 134:20, 143:22, 150:9, 154:24
telephoned [1] - 132:28telephones [4] - 132:3,
150:6, 150:7, 151:26television [3] - 8:21,
10:23, 62:8telex [5] - 110:4, 131:1,
131:9, 131:24temporarily [1] - 116:18temporary [2] - 87:17,
111:4ten [4] - 47:9, 82:29, 83:2,
145:23tenants [1] - 32:23tend [1] - 140:1tenure [1] - 99:12term [2] - 17:17, 78:25terms [21] - 3:3, 5:1, 7:4,
7:5, 13:17, 19:25, 28:2,
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49:23, 51:14, 51:21, 53:20, 55:27, 59:18, 90:14, 92:3, 114:18, 115:6, 133:13, 135:13, 137:24, 144:3
terrible [1] - 123:21terribly [1] - 94:2territory [1] - 117:25terrorism [2] - 94:12,
113:7terrorist [3] - 112:26,
149:29, 150:7terrorists [8] - 47:20,
48:16, 109:13, 112:4, 112:11, 116:7, 145:24, 147:1
test [1] - 42:17that.. [2] - 85:5, 125:12Thatcher [1] - 89:11THE [15] - 1:1, 49:18,
57:6, 69:7, 77:12, 83:4, 84:1, 128:12, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28, 152:22, 156:8
themselves [9] - 58:11, 79:21, 129:30, 130:9, 130:20, 138:8, 145:24, 149:10, 153:25
theory [3] - 61:21, 91:3, 91:4
there'd [1] - 151:7thereabouts [1] - 97:21therefore [4] - 43:3,
61:13, 113:12, 135:20thinking [1] - 103:15third [4] - 120:3, 150:29,
153:18, 154:13Thomas [2] - 8:10, 23:24thorough [1] - 76:16threat [1] - 88:1threats [1] - 22:7Three [1] - 89:12three [18] - 21:15, 42:11,
50:2, 51:15, 57:21, 65:12, 97:20, 109:8, 109:10, 116:10, 118:7, 120:27, 129:6, 133:17, 133:18, 151:7, 151:8, 155:3
throughout [6] - 12:11, 12:20, 22:4, 24:9, 76:2, 155:17
thrown [1] - 29:7thrust [1] - 4:6thumped [1] - 145:16Thursday [5] - 93:19,
93:21, 95:12, 96:30, 97:3
Tiernan [2] - 39:30Tierney [5] - 17:10, 23:23,
35:20, 39:27, 39:30tight [1] - 122:27timeframe [1] - 96:20timely [1] - 32:27timings [1] - 130:7tipping [1] - 56:14title [1] - 2:16today [7] - 57:23, 88:7,
109:2, 126:12, 152:1, 155:12, 155:16
together [5] - 73:11, 73:13, 85:3, 97:25, 107:19
Tom [12] - 2:27, 6:18, 8:14, 22:30, 44:15, 78:17, 78:29, 79:7, 93:15, 94:2, 125:14, 126:9
tomorrow [5] - 84:16, 84:27, 85:12, 109:2, 156:6
took [13] - 4:1, 4:12, 4:15, 16:15, 47:27, 51:12, 72:10, 77:19, 97:18, 111:3, 114:22, 142:30, 153:27
topic [2] - 35:12, 43:29topography [1] - 104:7total [5] - 20:27, 21:15,
36:3, 122:20, 149:8totally [5] - 105:6, 114:25,
149:9, 150:17touch [3] - 88:8, 124:16,
150:3touched [1] - 148:30towards [3] - 65:20,
132:9, 149:15town [3] - 33:7, 33:13,
33:20traditions [1] - 32:25traffic [2] - 28:26, 135:3trafficking [2] - 112:3trained [1] - 126:2training [1] - 87:12transfer [40] - 4:2, 4:8,
4:12, 15:14, 15:18, 15:25, 18:14, 18:17, 18:29, 19:10, 19:18, 20:1, 20:5, 22:22, 22:25, 23:14, 23:22, 26:13, 27:10, 27:11, 31:30, 32:3, 32:17, 34:27, 37:30, 38:6, 50:21, 51:2, 53:1, 53:13, 53:23, 53:24, 53:26, 63:25, 65:24, 68:16, 80:17, 87:17
transferred [12] - 14:18, 15:20, 31:10, 31:17, 34:18, 58:30, 63:29, 68:24, 87:14, 87:15, 87:20, 87:22
transferring [1] - 35:1transfers [3] - 2:17,
37:30, 38:13transmission [1] - 135:10transmissions [2] -
112:19, 135:8transmitted [1] - 114:6transpired [2] - 25:21,
71:2transport [4] - 11:1, 26:7,
26:9, 66:15trap [1] - 120:29traumatic [1] - 155:21travel [9] - 26:8, 26:9,
45:3, 45:30, 104:18, 104:19, 107:19, 115:9, 129:29
travelled [10] - 97:9, 97:15, 106:23, 106:29, 120:15, 124:5, 124:7, 134:8, 147:11, 152:3
travelling [13] - 45:5, 108:16, 108:20, 111:20, 113:21, 114:17, 117:16, 126:30, 129:30, 131:20, 146:12, 151:14, 152:14
traverse [3] - 131:27, 149:20, 151:3
traversing [2] - 130:11, 152:9
treat [2] - 101:30, 119:17treated [4] - 29:27, 64:5,
119:21, 119:24treatment [2] - 20:7, 22:3Tribunal [31] - 60:5, 60:6,
60:20, 60:23, 60:25, 67:10, 69:13, 69:19, 70:28, 71:13, 72:15, 73:25, 74:9, 76:29, 82:29, 87:7, 94:28, 101:11, 104:16, 110:18, 111:9, 114:30, 119:16, 140:19, 146:18, 148:23, 149:2, 151:24, 155:24, 155:30
TRIBUNAL [5] - 1:1, 83:4, 84:1, 128:12, 156:8
trimmings [1] - 146:2trio [1] - 98:9trip [1] - 130:27troubles [1] - 20:15Troubles' [1] - 155:17true [3] - 29:23, 124:26,
153:7trust [1] - 137:9trusted [5] - 34:3, 34:5,
137:9, 140:16, 140:17try [2] - 64:6, 71:30trying [8] - 34:15, 41:12,
61:8, 61:15, 61:16, 81:10, 81:20, 152:2
turbulent [1] - 20:15turn [12] - 3:29, 93:12,
96:30, 106:14, 106:15, 107:5, 111:27, 114:16, 115:18, 117:5, 141:1, 141:18
turned [1] - 141:14turning [2] - 103:27,
138:7twelve [1] - 107:28twenty [3] - 107:30,
132:20, 154:25twenty-five [1] - 154:25twice [2] - 121:14, 153:18two [70] - 1:5, 1:11, 3:8,
4:28, 5:27, 10:4, 16:26, 19:4, 24:26, 25:30, 26:25, 35:15, 41:21, 44:26, 46:2, 46:3, 46:10, 46:20, 59:2, 59:10, 59:13, 59:24,
59:29, 61:4, 61:13, 65:12, 66:19, 66:20, 76:24, 76:25, 77:7, 77:26, 78:2, 78:5, 78:6, 80:14, 82:5, 82:30, 83:2, 87:13, 90:4, 93:30, 94:18, 96:18, 97:19, 101:10, 102:12, 103:6, 103:16, 107:20, 107:26, 109:5, 109:8, 109:9, 110:5, 110:6, 111:10, 118:4, 121:27, 129:12, 132:12, 145:24, 147:5, 154:5, 154:8, 154:11, 155:3, 155:21
two-paged [1] - 101:10type [5] - 63:3, 64:28,
65:14, 65:19, 135:1types [1] - 138:27Tyrone [1] - 89:24
UUK [1] - 89:10ultimate [1] - 122:24ultimately [7] - 16:24,
17:5, 37:20, 54:12, 59:2, 101:2, 136:22
unable [2] - 37:10, 109:17unacceptable [1] - 53:21unauthorised [9] - 6:29,
7:13, 7:20, 9:21, 27:24, 59:4, 59:25, 80:28, 81:15
uncertainty [1] - 90:17uncomfortable [1] - 41:3uncommon [1] - 53:22unconnnectable [1] -
114:23undated [2] - 23:2, 64:14under [29] - 15:1, 15:7,
16:8, 17:1, 17:8, 17:19, 21:15, 22:19, 22:23, 29:20, 34:29, 35:13, 38:21, 43:11, 43:15, 50:6, 50:22, 55:15, 57:29, 58:8, 75:17, 84:9, 109:7, 109:26, 134:12, 140:20, 140:24, 151:24, 152:7
undercurrent [1] - 40:26understandable [2] -
78:4, 140:4understandably [1] -
12:15understood [1] - 1:6undertaking [1] - 73:15undoubteded [1] - 24:19undoubtedly [2] - 5:30,
11:30undue [1] - 127:18unexplained [1] - 35:28unfair [7] - 40:23, 41:1,
41:4, 60:29, 61:8, 65:21, 67:9
unfairly [2] - 29:27, 64:4unfavourable [1] - 115:6unfortunately [4] - 20:8,
27:18, 101:11, 101:13unhappy [2] - 99:26,
100:1Uniform [1] - 88:20uniform [14] - 14:17,
15:18, 50:29, 88:20, 88:26, 88:27, 89:3, 89:5, 90:1, 123:10, 139:24, 139:27, 142:18, 142:19
Uniformed [1] - 87:25uniformed [4] - 3:12,
3:13, 17:13, 38:7Union [1] - 11:23unique [7] - 12:13, 41:23,
41:29, 75:13, 119:24, 119:25, 133:21
unit [5] - 3:15, 20:28, 34:20, 113:10, 138:10
Unit [5] - 4:3, 19:1, 19:2, 25:28, 133:18
units [10] - 3:13, 112:23, 112:29, 113:5, 114:9, 114:13, 123:4, 138:21, 139:1
unknown [3] - 76:15, 114:22, 114:23
unless [3] - 3:17, 54:16, 132:5
unlike [2] - 53:15, 96:19unlikely [1] - 133:9unmarked [2] - 151:14,
151:17unnoticed [1] - 151:20unorthodox [2] - 41:13,
41:15unredacted [3] - 95:29,
96:5, 101:5unsecure [1] - 150:7unsubstantiated [2] -
10:4, 58:1unsupervised [2] - 34:3,
34:6UNTIL [1] - 156:8unusual [17] - 40:11,
40:24, 40:28, 41:7, 42:10, 50:27, 51:3, 53:28, 53:29, 57:14, 94:17, 94:21, 94:27, 119:23, 125:4, 125:9, 132:29
unveiling [2] - 25:21, 64:24
unwell [2] - 20:8, 37:10up [51] - 1:11, 5:12, 6:22,
13:17, 15:18, 15:22, 19:20, 19:28, 25:26, 25:29, 32:8, 36:14, 37:10, 38:15, 39:24, 44:27, 47:26, 47:29, 48:12, 58:24, 69:28, 70:8, 70:29, 77:18, 78:28, 85:4, 90:26, 93:12, 93:29, 97:8, 97:21, 112:5, 113:30, 120:2, 126:29, 128:26, 130:10, 137:8, 138:3, 140:7, 141:1, 141:15,
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141:18, 141:25, 142:11, 147:11, 147:23, 151:5, 151:22, 153:28
upper [1] - 110:30urgency [3] - 84:18,
105:6, 151:26urgent [3] - 65:5, 101:30,
156:3useful [6] - 12:2, 123:19,
140:9, 140:12, 142:27, 142:29
utterly [5] - 99:6, 127:5, 150:17
Vvacancies [1] - 32:15vacancy [2] - 32:11,
32:13vagaries [1] - 149:6vague [1] - 27:19Valentine [4] - 84:3,
135:3, 142:30, 152:20VALENTINE [20] - 1:11,
1:15, 82:26, 84:6, 84:11, 84:21, 85:18, 85:26, 86:4, 87:2, 87:4, 107:13, 110:26, 127:14, 128:6, 152:22, 152:24, 155:5, 155:12, 155:28
valuable [6] - 4:21, 12:2, 12:4, 13:26, 24:19, 142:6
value [2] - 56:26, 113:2van [1] - 142:12vans [1] - 150:10varied [1] - 60:13various [11] - 16:10, 17:7,
20:24, 38:3, 38:11, 71:17, 71:27, 90:23, 100:19, 128:30, 138:30
vast [1] - 10:30Vauxhall [1] - 133:2Vectra [1] - 133:2vehicle [11] - 114:26,
115:9, 115:12, 133:1, 134:14, 134:17, 134:30, 147:12, 150:30, 151:2, 151:21
vehicles [18] - 9:22, 27:25, 114:22, 114:28, 115:1, 115:2, 115:3, 115:4, 115:7, 115:11, 120:27, 129:22, 134:1, 151:7, 151:11, 151:15, 151:17, 152:14
veracity [1] - 100:24verbally [4] - 114:7,
114:8, 131:12, 131:13verifiable [1] - 126:20verified [1] - 68:7vernacular [1] - 129:27version [5] - 95:29, 96:1,
96:5, 101:6, 101:7versions [1] - 98:24veto [1] - 33:3vexations [1] - 58:2via [4] - 97:9, 97:15,
101:25, 106:30vicinity [2] - 121:22,
121:27victims [1] - 47:27view [34] - 3:4, 5:3, 5:5,
10:9, 12:11, 12:19, 12:20, 14:6, 16:7, 16:15, 17:30, 21:27, 30:21, 31:1, 43:17, 43:20, 43:21, 43:24, 45:21, 47:3, 47:8, 47:10, 51:17, 55:27, 78:11, 100:5, 100:14, 100:28, 100:29, 101:25, 112:22, 113:18, 114:8, 138:9
viewed [1] - 143:28views [2] - 4:27, 67:13Vincent [2] - 9:7, 80:10VIPs [1] - 48:17virtually [2] - 95:21, 118:5visit [11] - 69:11, 69:14,
69:25, 69:27, 70:6, 70:30, 71:1, 73:10, 73:20, 129:24
visited [1] - 20:23visiting [2] - 44:25, 44:28visits [2] - 47:23, 150:3vital [2] - 98:14, 142:13volition [1] - 136:5volunteer [1] - 65:8
Wwages [1] - 82:2wait [2] - 73:29, 151:28waiting [2] - 114:15,
151:11wake [1] - 113:27walking [1] - 3:18wants [2] - 58:18, 128:4warned [1] - 137:27warrant [1] - 100:28warranted [1] - 100:13warren [1] - 135:26wary [1] - 5:6WAS [10] - 2:1, 49:18,
57:6, 69:7, 77:12, 87:1, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28, 152:22
watch [1] - 134:16ways [1] - 143:20weakness [1] - 34:22weapon [3] - 111:16,
111:23, 114:3weaponry [1] - 149:29weapons [5] - 111:13,
111:14, 111:21, 114:2Wednesday [5] - 93:20,
93:21, 95:9, 96:26week [8] - 105:7, 107:23,
117:28, 133:10, 145:29, 151:28, 153:18, 153:19
week's [1] - 82:2weekend [2] - 105:26,
106:13weekly [1] - 93:5weeks [6] - 33:18, 96:18,
115:18, 116:10, 134:28weighed [1] - 13:27welcome [1] - 33:5welcomed [2] - 32:18,
52:9Well.. [1] - 124:18whatsoever [3] - 73:17,
121:16, 146:20whereabouts [1] - 91:10whereas [1] - 24:27whichever [1] - 139:3whilst [2] - 53:20, 64:23white [1] - 120:9whole [7] - 36:6, 45:28,
48:15, 60:3, 137:11, 146:15, 153:11
wholly [2] - 104:22, 105:4widespread [1] - 22:4wife [3] - 26:23, 123:14,
142:10wife's [3] - 20:6, 26:18,
31:2will.. [1] - 127:20wise [1] - 109:9wish [9] - 16:5, 18:27,
22:25, 32:11, 85:11, 86:15, 131:27, 144:16, 144:17
wished [3] - 11:10, 19:30, 115:8
wishes [2] - 77:9, 101:24wit [2] - 127:25, 127:28withdraw [1] - 16:20withdrawn [1] - 131:26Witness [34] - 1:3, 84:11,
86:5, 97:12, 97:14, 97:17, 98:22, 98:28, 98:30, 99:14, 99:15, 101:15, 102:22, 104:16, 106:18, 107:13, 110:16, 110:26, 112:22, 117:5, 120:5, 127:14, 136:26, 139:12, 139:18, 145:8, 149:12, 150:4, 150:14, 150:28, 152:2, 154:3, 155:6, 155:15
WITNESS [10] - 1:10, 49:18, 57:6, 69:7, 77:12, 87:1, 128:14, 139:14, 148:28, 152:22
witness [38] - 1:4, 40:27, 40:30, 41:9, 81:8, 81:24, 82:26, 84:4, 84:16, 84:27, 85:23, 86:4, 86:5, 86:11, 87:4, 87:6, 98:28, 98:30, 99:16, 113:29, 114:6, 126:11, 128:4, 128:6, 128:9, 128:24, 132:8, 137:7, 147:26, 147:30, 148:30, 152:25, 154:3, 155:8, 156:4, 156:5
witness's [2] - 86:7, 155:28
witnessed [5] - 124:9, 124:25, 138:2, 138:4, 143:8
witnesses [4] - 1:5,
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Doyle Court Reporters Ltd.
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71:23, 72:11, 132:28wonder [4] - 6:22, 55:10,
69:11, 97:1wondering [1] - 138:18word [1] - 135:16words [9] - 7:14, 60:13,
60:16, 69:18, 107:9, 131:27, 138:26, 138:27, 138:30
works [2] - 103:23, 103:24
world [1] - 126:2worried [1] - 146:12worse [2] - 141:7, 144:2writing [6] - 7:10, 7:20,
9:27, 105:3, 105:5, 155:30
written [3] - 18:28, 21:10, 75:22
wrongly [1] - 53:22wrote [5] - 6:24, 7:9,
15:26, 29:16, 62:2
Yyear [4] - 14:7, 36:24,
49:29, 87:15years [33] - 11:28, 13:30,
17:28, 20:15, 21:20, 35:7, 38:13, 39:2, 39:3, 44:10, 48:15, 49:28, 50:2, 51:15, 51:29, 57:21, 76:24, 76:25, 76:26, 87:13, 87:20, 98:11, 105:10, 111:18, 112:26, 116:18, 133:16, 137:8, 142:21, 143:13, 146:23, 147:5
yes.. [1] - 93:20yesterday [1] - 109:2yielded [1] - 13:14young [2] - 142:10,
142:11yourself [11] - 56:11,
57:18, 74:10, 78:15, 80:16, 92:8, 106:5, 108:20, 127:20, 129:4, 154:14
yourselves [1] - 122:15
Zzone [16] - 87:28, 88:25,
89:7, 89:11, 89:12, 89:21, 89:27, 89:29, 90:2, 91:2, 91:7, 92:22, 94:30, 108:12, 124:6, 125:8
££150 [3] - 36:3, 59:26,
81:16